What's your top score on Wordle?
-MAN: What's Wordle? -What's Wordle?
Ho! Ho-ho-ho!
Someone has a life.
-Ha-ha-ha. -(laughter)
"What's Wordle?" he says.
Yeah, Wordle is this game you play online.
It's not an app. You have to go online to play it,
and you guess a word.
And then-- It's a five-letter word
and it's simple words and everyone is playing it.
And you only get, like, six attempts
or five attempts to find the word.
And everyone loves it. Because you j--
You can only play it once a day and you're done
and then that's it.
And it's, like, the most popular thing ever.
For a variety of reasons.
One, I think it helps that it's five-letter words.
'Cause, like, a lot of the time with word games,
they're just there to make you feel stupid.
Do you know what I mean?
'Cause you'll be like, "A seven-letter word
"to describe 'bad.' Hmm.
Hmm. 'Baddest'?"
ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from the heart of Times Square,
in New York City, the only city in America,
it's The Daily Show.
Tonight, Australia closed for Djokovic,
CDC's new guidelines
and Dr. Bernice King.
This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
Hey! What's going on, everybody?
Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah.
And joining me for today's headlines
is my very good friend Michael Kosta!
What's going on, Michael? How you doing?
Hey, Trevor. I'm just trying to stick
to my New Year's resolutions.
I'm trying to read upside down more.
So...
The purpose being?
Well, you know, I keep getting these upside-down books
in the mail.
And, uh, I don't know if it's supply chain
or Amazon.
So I just figured,
instead of throwing 'em out,
just learn how to read 'em.
-So... -You know what, Michael?
-Yeah. -I wish the world had more people like you in it.
A lot of people would've just thrown the books away,
but I'm challenging myself to read upside down.
-I love that. -I knew that you would get it.
Yeah, you just see the world in a completely different way.
I guess I could also flip it,
but then I'd have to read it--
then I'd ha-- then I would have to go upside down.
It's easier for me to do it like that.
You know, sometimes I wonder
how this pandemic has gone on this long.
-Yeah. -Because there are people like you in the world,
and I'm like, "How haven't we solved it already?"
Thank you so much, dude. Yes.
That's exactly right. Yes.
-My man. Good to have you. -I'm gonna read while--
-just read a little bit. -You go ahead.
-Okay. -You go ahead.
All right, while he's doing that,
let's jump right into today's headlines.
♪ ♪
We begin with the big news from the world of sports.
And, no, I'm not talking about all the great NFL playoff games
over the weekend.
I mean, I've always said, man, the most exciting games
are the ones that are over in the first quarter.
No, I'm talking about Novak Djokovic,
the Serbian tennis star whose name
is worth up to 140 points in Scrabble.
This is supposed to have been a big week for Djokovic.
But, like my dream of starring in the biopic of Weird Al,
it wasn't meant to be.
The Australian Open got underway Monday
without the world's number one-ranked male tennis player.
Novak Djokovic returned to his native Serbia
after being deported from Australia
for not being vaccinated against COVID.
NEWSWOMAN: The Australian government said
it canceled his visa because Djokovic's presence
could lead to an increase in anti-vaccination sentiment
and even civil unrest.
Australia requires everyone entering the country
to be vaccinated or have a medical exemption.
Djokovic had an exemption
because of a recent COVID infection,
but it sparked outrage in Australia,
apparently prompting the government to act.
An opinion poll yesterday showed 71% of Australians
wanted Djokovic deported.
Damn. It says a lot about you when that many Australians think
you're too dangerous to be in their country.
I mean, this is the country whose health minister
is a giant poisonous spider.
"Oh, I get things done!"
And Australia is the last country
you want to get deported from. I mean, imagine.
Imagine stepping off a 25-hour flight,
and then immediately having to get on another 25-hour flight.
I don't know what Djokovic thinks is in the vaccine,
but it can't possibly be worse
than breathing in farts for 50 hours straight.
But then again, it's not that surprising
that Djokovic would be against the vaccine.
Keep in mind, that this is a man who says
he knows that he has a gluten intolerance--
and this is completely true-- because he's physically weaker
if he's holding a slice of bread.
Yeah. So gluten works like kryptonite for him.
You think COVID is scary, but Djokovic could die
just walking past a bakery.
"Oh, Au Bon Pain."
I will say, as hard as it is to sympathize with Djokovic,
it is a little disturbing
that the Australian government allowed him in,
then deported him just because they changed their minds.
I mean, if a government can arbitrarily deport an athlete,
what's to stop them from deporting a whole team?
And how could we get it to be the New York Jets?
Yeah. And also, I love how the Australian government
is proclaiming that there's some health component
to this, as if...
I mean, you've been to Australia.
It's not exactly the healthiest culture.
They eat terrible food,
they drink exuberant amounts of beer.
A blooming onion has, like, 40,000 calories, Trevor.
And you're gonna kick this guy out of the tennis tournament,
and you still haven't kicked out the stingray
that killed Steve Irwin? You know what I mean?
(Noah laughs)
And I can relate to Novak Djokovic
'cause I've been kicked out a bunch of Outback Steakhouses,
and same as Novak, they said it was an issue with my Visa.
-I don't know what that means, but I stand with you. -Yeah.
What's a guy got to do to be allowed to play the tournament?
Nine-time champion, three-time defending champion,
world number one, tied all time for Grand Slam.
What do you got to do, Trevor?
Get vaccinated?
Yup.
All right, let's move on to some technology news.
Arguably the most important tech breakthrough
of the last few years has been 5G.
And there are a lot of crazy conspiracy theories
you might have heard, like 5G causes cancer,
or autism, or it's a mind control tool.
I mean, a few weeks ago, it was actually going around
that when they turned on 5G,
anyone who had gotten the COVID vaccine was going to explode.
This is a thing people believe, which is ridiculous.
I mean, I have 5G on my phone,
and I turned it on before we came out here.
And look. Nothing happened. You see?
But it turns out, not everyone who has concerns...
(explosion)
Anyway, it turns out not everyone who has concerns
about 5G wears a tin hat.
NEWSMAN: This morning, the major airlines warning of a possible
catastrophic aviation crisis beginning in less than 24 hours
when AT&T and Verizon are set to launch
new, stronger, 5G technology,
which would give faster wireless service.
The concern-- whether 5G signals could interfere
with radio altimeters.
That's a device pilots use telling them
how far they are from the ground
and helping them land in poor visibility.
NEWSMAN 2: Executives from airlines including American,
Delta, United and Southwest urging U.S. officials
to keep new, stronger 5G signals
at least two miles away from U.S. airports,
saying in a letter, "Immediate intervention is needed
"to avoid significant operational disruption.
To be blunt, the nation's commerce will grind to a halt."
One union saying its pilots are prepared to
ground their planes if the FAA doesn't act.
Yeah, but how will they know how to ground their planes
if there's 5G?
-Just me? -(chuckles)
Okay, look, look.
I'm not saying the airlines are making this up.
I'm not saying that.
But we all remember how they said the same thing about
regular cell phones for 20 years, right?
Yeah?
Remember how terrified they had us?
"Everyone, airplane mode, or this plane could crash!"
One time, I forgot to turn off my phone, and then
the plane hit turbulence, and I looked at my phone, I was like,
"Ah, shit! This was me!"
"I'm sorry, everybody. I'm sorry."
So, anyway,
I don't think the airlines are going to win this fight.
And, honestly, even if it's true this time-- if it's true--
if you tell people that they can download a movie in a few
seconds, but there's a slight chance it'll crash a plane,
pretty sure people are going to be like,
"Yeah, it's-it's worth it.
-I'll take that chance. Fast downloads." -Yeah,
I... Also, how is this my problem?
I mean, you want me to take on the cell phone company industry
and the airline industry?
Right? You knew 5G was coming.
It comes after 4G.
You know what's after 5G, Trevor?
6G. How high you want me to go?
You know?
-I... -(laughing)
You're asking me to take on the airlines.
A place where I can't even get a full can of Coke,
or I can't even change my middle seat.
This is not my problem.
-But you know what? -What?
-Crash together, my friend. -(laughing): Yes. I love that.
That's what friendship's all about.
Yeah. I love that.
All right.
Let's make all our moms happy and go to church
with this next story.
Have you ever seen a pastor who worked a little too hard
to keep the congregation's attention?
Well, one pastor in Oklahoma, well,
he, uh, just outdid them all.
NEWSWOMAN: A Tulsa church leader facing criticism for
smearing his spit
on a man's face during a sermon.
It happened over the weekend. Gross.
So many people talking about this on social media yesterday.
Pastor Michael Todd of Transformation Church in Bixby
was giving a sermon on Sunday about how to
"Receive God's vision." "It can be nasty," he said.
(people exclaim)
I just bought my dream car,
and now you're going to ask me
to sell it back
and ride in the hooptie again?
Yeah, because the vision I'm about to give you--
it might get nasty.
(people exclaiming)
NEWSWOMAN: Well, the pastor says
while he was trying to make a point
in his sermon on Sunday,
he realizes that he crossed the line.
And the guy onstage, that was his brother.
(crew laughs)
How is COVID still spreading in America?
We're doing everything right.
Huh? We're doing everything right.
Look, I know
it looks nasty,
but I will say this pastor's point
that God might ask you to do stuff
that other people don't like, he's not wrong.
Yeah, all these people who are like,
"God doesn't want you to wipe your nasty spit on people."
Yo, somewhere Abraham is like,
"Yo, he told me to kill my damn son.
"I wish he just wanted me to spit on him.
"You know how much therapy
"me and my kid had to go to after that?
Shit was never the same."
The pastor's just trying to say
sometimes God will give you a message
that may throw you off,
like phlegm in your face.
And, you know, the fact that that was his brother
that he was doing that to, for me, that makes it even worse
'cause now it feels like he just uses the scriptures
to mess with his sibling.
"And God sent a great flood.
"And to show you what that flood looked like,
"I'm gonna stick my brother's hand
in some warm water while he sleeps."
(chuckles)
I-I don't know. I mean, I see this
as a beautiful expression of spirituality.
Kosta, what are you-you talking about?
This is disgusting. It's gross.
Okay, phew. I... Honestly, I didn't want to say anything
'cause it's a Black church,
but what the (bleep) is going on, dude?
-Huh? Is this what... -(laughs)
Is this what Black church is all about?
No, it's not. That's why it's disgusting.
I mean, that being said, it's not as bad
as what happens at white church.
(crew laughs)
But you're right about it...
When religion was invented, they were doing some dark shit.
-They were. -It kind of shows how sensitive we are now.
-Yeah. -Little spit on the face from your brother.
I mean, my brother used to pin me down
and drink orange juice and then do the...
the-the... You know what that is?
-No, I don't know what this is. -You'd do the spit
down to the face and then yo-yo it back up.
-I'm sorry, what? -I didn't realize my brother
was just presenting me with scripture at the time.
(crew laughs)
-(chuckles): You didn't do that? It's... -No.
M-Maybe it's just my brother.
Did you know he was doing this
when he was drinking the orange juice?
-Did you know it was coming? -I... Sometimes.
That was... That was so tricky. Half the time,
he was just having some breakfast orange juice.
And the other time,
he was getting ready to kick the shit out of me.
So...
-That's trauma, Kosta. -Yeah, that's trauma. Yeah.
And, uh, you know, he's probably watching.
And I'm on to you, dude, and-and I don't... I don't...
You know, I guess you won,
'cause here I am crying on TV about it.
(crew laughs)
We're gonna talk about this in the break.
-Yeah, please. -We-We're gonna... We're gonna fix this.
All right, when we come back,
we'll tell you why you're wearing the wrong mask
and how to get the right mask
and why that mask is also wrong, so stay tuned.
-'Cause, you see, your brother can't... -Oh. Yeah.
-Is that... No, no, go ahead. -I was just re... Just trying
-to keep reading upside down. Yeah. -Y-You go ahead, man.
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
We are now entering year 50 of the coronavirus pandemic,
and dealing with life in a pandemic
has been a struggle for a lot of people--
small business owners, teachers
and, of course,
people with a chin fetish.
But one group that's having a tougher time than you'd expect
is the CDC.
So, let's catch up with all the latest
in another edition of Keeping Up with Corona.
♪ ♪
From the beginning of this pandemic,
the CDC has tried to give clear, simple guidelines to the public.
And, from the beginning,
they have mostly failed.
I mean, do you remember their mask chart?
Shit looked like a traffic light had an aneurysm.
And, look, I'm not saying that telling 300 million people
how to behave during a global pandemic is easy,
but it also doesn't seem like the CDC
is getting any better at it.
NEWSWOMAN: The CDC has updated its guidance on masks.
According to the agency,
cloth masks do not protect against the virus
as effectively as other masks.
NEWSMAN: Saying any mask is better than none,
but masks that fit well, like N95s, offer the best protection.
The agency stopping short
of urging all Americans to upgrade their masks,
drawing immediate criticism from some health experts.
You know, the approach that the CDC has taken right now
with masking, I think, just adds to the confusion.
We should be making it loud and clear
that the N95 respirators are really the only thing
that will really protect you.
Okay, okay, hold on, hold on.
If cloth masks don't protect you,
then tell people they need to wear a better mask.
What's this "Well, it doesn't really work,
but-but it's-it's fine, it's fine"?
I mean, in that case, I might as well wear a T-shirt
with a seat belt drawn on it instead of an actual seat belt.
Yeah. I mean, it looks like a seat belt.
Doesn't protect me, but... (chuckles)
I mean, apparently, that's enough, right?
The thing I really don't understand is,
now that we know cloth masks don't work,
who are the people who are still wearing them?
Huh?
'Cause, look... (stammers)
we've pretty much got two teams, yeah?
You've got the people who are scared of COVID,
and they're running around looking like Bane.
And then you've got people who think COVID is total bullshit,
so they refuse to wear a mask altogether.
And I don't agree with them,
but at least they stand by their beliefs
and they don't care if those beliefs
end up killing their coworkers on the Supreme Court.
But...
a cloth mask is just wishy-washy.
Like, you either want to protect yourself or you don't.
You can't just-the-tip the coronavirus.
Come on, people.
It's like someone being like,
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wear condoms, but, uh,
"only if they're made like a doily.
I buy my condoms on Etsy."
At the same time though, this does suck.
I mean, we spent two years
building up a whole wardrobe of cloth masks.
You know? I had masks for every situation.
I had my work mask.
I had my weekend mask.
I had my masks for going to funerals.
I had my masks for going to weddings.
It's too bad.
Now, if you wore a cloth mask
because the CDC was kind of okay with it
and you got infected with COVID,
well, the CDC also has some new guidelines
for how long you should isolate from other people.
And it turns out
those guidelines are weird as hell.
At the same time, the CDC finds itself facing backlash
over some of its other recommendations
concerning how long those who have tested positive
for COVID should isolate,
and whether a negative test should be required
to end that isolation.
NEWSMAN 2: The CDC says the infected can end isolation
if fever-free just five days after a positive test,
when a study of infections in the NBA suggests
more than a third are probably still infectious.
"Ending isolation at day five should include
a negative rapid antigen test,"
tweeted one of the researchers.
"Why do all the work to identify infections
"if we are going to just let them go back to work
while still potentially infectious?"
Yeah, that's a great point.
These CDC guidelines could be sending people back
to work while they are still contagious.
It's like the CDC is trying to turn every office
into the CDC office.
"Look, if we have to work
alongside deadly viruses every day, then so do you!"
Why would you do that? Why would you test
and then still let the person go?
Imagine if the TSA had that philosophy.
Just, like, pat you down. "Aah! Is that a gun?"
"Yeah." "All right, go on."
Now, to be fair, to be fair, Dr. Fauci says
that the new rules are an attempt
to keep the most infectious people at home
while also getting essential workers back to work faster.
'Cause let's face it. Basically everyone has Omicron right now.
And if people don't have to be in isolation as long,
then, hopefully, hospitals can bring back nurses faster.
You know, hopefully, schools can bring back teachers.
And the NBA teams can stop signing sweaty dads
that they found at the local YMCA.
But even after you come out of your much shorter isolation,
the CDC has some pretty weird expectations
of what you should be doing next.
Part of the guidance we recently got from the CDC
was what to do after five days of isolation.
Once you're out, and you have no more symptoms,
they say these are the people you should stay away from
after you end your COVID five-day isolation.
People who are overweight, battling depression,
current or former smokers and pregnant people.
That's nearly nine out of ten people.
(laughing): Yo, guys.
Yo, the CDC is crazy, people.
You can come out of isolation as long as you don't interact
with basically any other person.
You realize, you're describing isolation.
And look, I understand. I understand that the CDC wants
to protect vulnerable populations,
but this is a legit minefield.
I mean, you know what's not gonna help depressed people?
Everyone staying away from them.
Not to mention, we're supposed
to stay away from overweight people?
Yo, CDC's gonna get people cancelled
'cause now, you're gonna be like,
"Hey, I can't hang out with you for a few days."
And they're going to be like, "Why not?"
"Uh..."
Honestly, it sounds like the CDC is trying
to describe a very specific person,
but just doesn't want to call them out.
That's what it seems like.
They don't want to embarrass them.
"Stay away from a former smoker who's pregnant
"whose hair is curly,
"but everybody knows is actually a perm,
"and she's really into pandas
"even though she's never been to China.
Her name rhymes with 'Bamantha.'"
And, look, I know that a lot of this confusion is because
the virus itself is confusing. I understand that.
It's constantly changing,
we're learning new things and it's hard to keep up.
It's like trying to stay on top of TikTok trends.
You're like, "Okay, I finally learned
"the 'I Ain't Ever Been With A Baddie' dance."
And TikTok is like, "No! We're doing Encanto memes now."
But it absolutely does not help when the people
who have to explain what to do in response to the virus
answer like this:
At what point does the administration say,
"You know what? This strategy isn't working.
"We're going to change strategies."
Six former administration officials last week wrote that
open letter urging the administration to change course,
to change strategy.
Is it time?
It is time for us to do what we have been doing
and that time is every day.
"It is time for us to do what we have been doing
and that time is every day?"
Why does that sound so familiar?
Oracle, when will it be done?
It is time for us to do what we have been doing,
and that time is every day.
Now, look, Kamala's point
was that the administration doesn't need a new plan
because we already have a way out of this pandemic,
which is everyone getting vaccinated.
But it should be obvious by now
that hoping everyone gets vaxxed isn't enough.
Which is why the Biden administration
is rolling out a new plan
to get everyone in America an at-home COVID test
just as soon as the Omicron wave is over.
Just into the CNN newsroom,
the website where you can order
free COVID-19 at-home tests from the government
is up and running.
The site was quietly launched today.
We just checked. It does work.
Go to www.CovidTest.gov,
and that's where you can order your tests.
NEWSWOMAN: At this point, you can order four per household,
and we're told that they'll ship
within seven to 12 days of ordering,
about a week to a week and a half.
So, let's say you go online,
and tomorrow, you place an order on Wednesday, the 19th.
They should be on their way to you by the end of the month.
Okay. Okay, look, I mean, it's great
that tests are finally gonna be available to everyone,
but seven to 12 days?
You don't think that's a little too long in a pandemic?
I mean, every day is precious.
Every single day is precious in a pandemic.
If anyone should know that, it's Joe Biden.
You know, I can't help but think
that if America just took a military approach to COVID,
this testing thing would be solved like that.
'Cause there's no delays
when it comes to the American military.
America doesn't need bombs and then start building them.
America always has bombs ready to go.
If America wants to drone someone, no one is like,
"Okay, we can place the order now,
"and then we wait seven to 12 days.
Unless there's a holiday. Then, in that case..."
No. It's just boom!
That terrorist is gone, baby.
What? It was just the family?
Well, boom! They're still gone.
I stand by my "boom."
If America was that proactive when it comes to pandemics,
we would have all gotten these tests
months before Omicron even got here.
Although, to be honest with you,
I don't even know if I trust at-home tests.
Just gonna test ourselves for antigens?
Is that before or after we mess up the directions
on an Easy Mac?
So, look, I know a lot of people
are frustrated with the government right now,
and they're depressed
that this pandemic seems to never end.
Like, when are we going back to normal life?
When can we go to work
and hang out with friends like we used to?
When is The Daily Show going back to having an audience?
-You got me, Trevor. -You don't count!
It's all a mess. But the good news is...
The good news is it won't be a mess much longer
because, people, if we just keep doing what we've been doing,
then it'll be time to keep doing it every day
until it's time.
All right, when we come back, Dr. Bernice King will join us
to talk about the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr.
-You don't want to miss it. -KOSTA: Yeah.
-I'm sorry, Kosta. I was a little... -I've been sitting...
I just... Yeah, I-I just... I'm sorry, man.
I-I should... I-I lost it. I'm sorry.
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
My guest tonight is Dr. Bernice A. King.
She's the daughter of civil rights leaders
Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King.
She's here to talk about advancing the legacy
of her parents through her work as the CEO of the King Center.
Dr. Bernice King, welcome to The Daily Show.
Thank you. I am so honored to be here.
Um, let me start by saying happy belated, uh,
Martin Luther King Jr. Day.
Um, I've-I've seldom seen a holiday
that seems to be celebrated by as many different people
in as many different ways
as I have seen with MLK Day in America.
And as the daughter of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.,
I'd love to know what you feel MLK Day should be about.
Well, I try to capture it in three ways.
It's a time to educate, advocate and activate.
-Hmm. -And people fall under, you know,
each one of those in different ways.
Uh, somet-- some people use this as a time to,
you know, advance the teachings of Dr. King,
and then some people advocate.
There are many issues that are-- we are faced with
in-in this nation, um,
that people are concerned about,
and they use that time to raise their voices
to advocate for issues and groups of people, in fact.
And then activate--
how do we capture the holiday
under one massive theme and focus?
And it became about a day of service.
So we started touting "a day on," not a day off.
In your lifetime, you saw your father go
from-from being one of the most hated men in America
to now being one of the most beloved men in America
but, ironically,
almost not because he's changed
but because people have changed what he stood for.
Hmm. That's an interesting insight, Trevor.
I never heard it put that way.
Wow.
Yeah, because we have an affinity
for-for dead and deceased leaders.
Uh, they're more comfortable when they're no longer with us,
because they are not able to,
you know, influence the masses in the same way.
You know, it's kind of like good and evil.
When you have something that's so powerful
and revolutionary like that,
you know, people do want to kind of find
the easy, comfortable part of it.
-Right. -Um, and-and I agree with you
that-that that has happened.
Um, and-and that's why
we have to continue to be, uh, resolute
in teaching the whole King. (chuckles)
I think there's no escaping the fact that his whole essence
cannot be spoken about without speaking about your mother,
Coretta Scott King.
What do you-- what do you wish people knew
about the work that she was doing
to help fight for civil rights in America?
In many ways, I think she was much more,
um, advanced,
um, you know, uh,
than my father, morally,
uh, and in terms of her,
um... insight.
She gave him a lot of, you said, sounding board,
feedback when he would prepare his messages and-and sermons.
Um, but probably one of the most important ways is when it was...
uh, when he spoke out against the Vietnam War
in 1967, you know.
Um, everybody turned against him, literally.
The Black leaders, the NAACP, Urban League--
they all turned against him because they felt
that we had made so much progress
on the civil rights front from the Johnson administration
that we need to kind of, you know, you know, you know,
-be careful at this point... -Right, about towing the line.
...that we don't alienate, yeah.
And, so, um, my mom said,
"Martin, we could really use your moral authority and voice."
I mean, look, when you said he was the most hated
and now one of the most loved,
what I say to people is,
the reason all of what we know about Dr. King
at the level that we know it, um,
and why we can't seem to shake him is because
-she... she immediately went to work. -Wow.
Two and a half months afterward,
a grieving widow with four little children.
She had this tremendous call to continue their work,
and she was very strategic in everything she did.
Um, it's-it's like, to me, that's why I call her
-the architect of the King legacy. -Wow.
Because she really provided a blueprint
for how we must continue to remember Dr. King
and his teachings, and in no uncertain terms,
she was insistent that we understood those teachings.
You see some of the opponents of voting rights
using your father's words in their defense,
or using it on a day to say,
"I'm pro Martin Luther King, Jr.,"
and then almost, you know, ignoring, um, his teachings
on what he believed in.
You're looking at a country that right now is considering
getting rid of the filibuster.
How do you grapple with the idea of the filibuster,
where voting rights needs to go in America,
and the risk of not having a filibuster in a country
where power goes back and forth the entire time?
Yeah. You know, I've had mixed feelings about it.
I mean, I've tweeted out about, you know, doing away with it.
But, you know, it's...
it's a difficult thing because
the filibuster is neutral, as we know it.
It's how it's used that makes it
-something for good or for bad. -Mm-hmm.
We would not be a democracy if we did not have voting rights,
and I agree with the Republicans
in the sense that we should make it easy to vote
and hard to cheat, but how that looks is different.
-Mm. -You know.
Um, and that's what we need to be talking more about.
So, it's kind of hypocritical to me, um, uh,
to say we shouldn't set aside this filibuster
and just, at this point, vote on what the majority says
for something that's fundamental to everybody.
So you've got to weigh, you know, the workaround,
you know, like, with, uh,
-Kyrsten Sinema and, um... -Right.
and-and Manchin saying, you know...
you know, the poisonous aspect of our democracy
and we have to stop what you just said-- the back and forth,
I actually agree we have to do that.
But at-at...
The price is what we're looking at,
the price of them getting back in charge
and saying, "Okay, you did this, so we're going to do this
-now that y'all have gone and lost it. -Right.
Or the damage of
millions of people being disenfranchised.
That's what we're looking at.
Yeah, no, I-I hear you, and-and it is a...
it is a-it is a dilemma, and, again,
funny enough, I think that's something that
your father doesn't get credited enough with,
is how much strategy he had to put into the movement.
-How strategic he had to be in thinking about - Can-can...
can you s... can you say that again?
'Cause that's what's missing today.
Before I let you go, I wanted to talk, uh,
about some of the work that you've been doing recently,
um, in spreading some-some really wonderful messages.
You know, many people know you-you have
a fantastic new book out, talking about love
and it's a-it's a beautiful experience.
Yes, there it is. It Starts With Me.
-Yes, that's it. -And it's a really wonderful story
of a young girl who's going out there and changing the world
in-in... you know, her expression of love,
-and-and doing things whilst also, -Right.
you know, loving people, not just sitting back.
Um, but you're also the CEO
of The King Center, and you-you've done something
really revolutionary and-and... and different
for an organization, in that you've moved
a lot of your lessons and a lot of the ideas
about nonviolence online.
Talk me through that a little bit, if you don't mind.
We found a way to kind of, uh, develop an online experience
that is reflective of what we do in person.
So nonviolence, for us, is a love-centered way of thinking,
engaging, speaking and acting
that brings about personal,
cultural and societal transformation.
Daddy said, in "I Have a Dream",
it's a part most people missed in his speech,
"We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plain
of dignity and discipline."
He was talking about how we talk, too. You know?
Words are powerful.
In my Christian tradition, we say,
"Death and life are in the power of the tongue."
You can murder somebody with your tongue.
So when people say "I'm not violent" because they
don't do anything physically, it's not confined to that.
-Mm. -We clear that up, even, in this online experience.
For some reason, people think love is some...
Like, this, you know, namby-pamby weak kind of thing.
-(laughs) -No. It's not.
What love does is it makes sure
that you are always trying
to elevate the situation and even the person.
So I try to participate in that part of the struggle,
and that's what nonviolence, you know, really represents.
And I think if we get to that place,
we can have these hard conversations.
But I'd like to...
I like talk to people in a way where their defenses come down.
-I love that. -I'm learning how to listen,
'cause that's a nonviolent, you know,
um, um, um, tool, as well.
Listen-- as my friend John Bryant
of Operation HOPE would say--
listen without being defensive
and speak, talk without being offensive.
Hmm. Thank you so much for continuing to share
not just, uh, your father's legacy
but your mother's, as well, and, uh, you know,
a story that has changed the nation forever.
-Thank you so much for joining us. -Thank you so much.
Don't forget, people, Dr. King's book,
It Starts with Me, is available right now.
For more information
on the King Center's Nonviolence365 online classes,
visit the website below.
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