1 00:00:00,968 --> 00:00:02,503 What's your top score on Wordle? 2 00:00:02,603 --> 00:00:04,471 -MAN: What's Wordle? -What's Wordle? 3 00:00:04,571 --> 00:00:07,007 Ho! Ho-ho-ho! 4 00:00:07,107 --> 00:00:08,542 Someone has a life. 5 00:00:08,642 --> 00:00:10,043 -Ha-ha-ha. -(laughter) 6 00:00:10,143 --> 00:00:12,145 "What's Wordle?" he says. 7 00:00:12,246 --> 00:00:14,181 Yeah, Wordle is this game you play online. 8 00:00:14,281 --> 00:00:16,650 It's not an app. You have to go online to play it, 9 00:00:16,750 --> 00:00:18,252 and you guess a word. 10 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:20,287 And then-- It's a five-letter word 11 00:00:20,387 --> 00:00:22,689 and it's simple words and everyone is playing it. 12 00:00:22,789 --> 00:00:24,324 And you only get, like, six attempts 13 00:00:24,424 --> 00:00:26,093 or five attempts to find the word. 14 00:00:26,193 --> 00:00:27,561 And everyone loves it. Because you j-- 15 00:00:27,661 --> 00:00:28,962 You can only play it once a day and you're done 16 00:00:29,062 --> 00:00:30,197 and then that's it. 17 00:00:30,297 --> 00:00:31,965 And it's, like, the most popular thing ever. 18 00:00:32,065 --> 00:00:33,300 For a variety of reasons. 19 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,136 One, I think it helps that it's five-letter words. 20 00:00:36,236 --> 00:00:37,671 'Cause, like, a lot of the time with word games, 21 00:00:37,771 --> 00:00:39,806 they're just there to make you feel stupid. 22 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:41,041 Do you know what I mean? 23 00:00:41,141 --> 00:00:42,976 'Cause you'll be like, "A seven-letter word 24 00:00:43,076 --> 00:00:45,646 "to describe 'bad.' Hmm. 25 00:00:45,746 --> 00:00:47,414 Hmm. 'Baddest'?" 26 00:00:47,514 --> 00:00:49,816 ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from the heart of Times Square, 27 00:00:49,917 --> 00:00:52,920 in New York City, the only city in America, 28 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:55,189 it's The Daily Show. 29 00:00:55,289 --> 00:00:59,059 Tonight, Australia closed for Djokovic, 30 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:01,295 CDC's new guidelines 31 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:03,931 and Dr. Bernice King. 32 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:08,669 This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 33 00:01:08,769 --> 00:01:10,170 Hey! What's going on, everybody? 34 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:11,905 Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. 35 00:01:12,072 --> 00:01:13,507 And joining me for today's headlines 36 00:01:13,607 --> 00:01:16,143 is my very good friend Michael Kosta! 37 00:01:16,243 --> 00:01:17,477 What's going on, Michael? How you doing? 38 00:01:17,578 --> 00:01:19,346 Hey, Trevor. I'm just trying to stick 39 00:01:19,446 --> 00:01:20,814 to my New Year's resolutions. 40 00:01:20,914 --> 00:01:23,116 I'm trying to read upside down more. 41 00:01:23,217 --> 00:01:24,318 So... 42 00:01:24,418 --> 00:01:26,486 The purpose being? 43 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:28,722 Well, you know, I keep getting these upside-down books 44 00:01:28,822 --> 00:01:29,923 in the mail. 45 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,759 And, uh, I don't know if it's supply chain 46 00:01:32,860 --> 00:01:34,228 or Amazon. 47 00:01:34,328 --> 00:01:35,963 So I just figured, 48 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:37,698 instead of throwing 'em out, 49 00:01:37,798 --> 00:01:38,999 just learn how to read 'em. 50 00:01:39,099 --> 00:01:40,734 -So... -You know what, Michael? 51 00:01:40,834 --> 00:01:42,870 -Yeah. -I wish the world had more people like you in it. 52 00:01:42,970 --> 00:01:44,571 A lot of people would've just thrown the books away, 53 00:01:44,671 --> 00:01:46,573 but I'm challenging myself to read upside down. 54 00:01:46,673 --> 00:01:48,108 -I love that. -I knew that you would get it. 55 00:01:48,175 --> 00:01:50,577 Yeah, you just see the world in a completely different way. 56 00:01:50,677 --> 00:01:52,246 I guess I could also flip it, 57 00:01:52,346 --> 00:01:53,580 but then I'd have to read it-- 58 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,148 then I'd ha-- then I would have to go upside down. 59 00:01:55,249 --> 00:01:57,284 It's easier for me to do it like that. 60 00:01:58,252 --> 00:02:00,153 You know, sometimes I wonder 61 00:02:00,254 --> 00:02:02,589 how this pandemic has gone on this long. 62 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:04,091 -Yeah. -Because there are people like you in the world, 63 00:02:04,191 --> 00:02:06,059 and I'm like, "How haven't we solved it already?" 64 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:07,628 Thank you so much, dude. Yes. 65 00:02:07,728 --> 00:02:09,062 That's exactly right. Yes. 66 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:10,564 -My man. Good to have you. -I'm gonna read while-- 67 00:02:10,664 --> 00:02:12,065 -just read a little bit. -You go ahead. 68 00:02:12,099 --> 00:02:13,200 -Okay. -You go ahead. 69 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:14,468 All right, while he's doing that, 70 00:02:14,568 --> 00:02:16,336 let's jump right into today's headlines. 71 00:02:16,436 --> 00:02:18,906 ♪ ♪ 72 00:02:19,072 --> 00:02:21,675 We begin with the big news from the world of sports. 73 00:02:21,775 --> 00:02:24,945 And, no, I'm not talking about all the great NFL playoff games 74 00:02:25,078 --> 00:02:26,346 over the weekend. 75 00:02:26,446 --> 00:02:28,315 I mean, I've always said, man, the most exciting games 76 00:02:28,415 --> 00:02:30,450 are the ones that are over in the first quarter. 77 00:02:30,551 --> 00:02:33,654 No, I'm talking about Novak Djokovic, 78 00:02:33,754 --> 00:02:35,322 the Serbian tennis star whose name 79 00:02:35,422 --> 00:02:38,325 is worth up to 140 points in Scrabble. 80 00:02:38,425 --> 00:02:41,662 This is supposed to have been a big week for Djokovic. 81 00:02:41,762 --> 00:02:45,299 But, like my dream of starring in the biopic of Weird Al, 82 00:02:45,399 --> 00:02:47,100 it wasn't meant to be. 83 00:02:47,134 --> 00:02:48,969 The Australian Open got underway Monday 84 00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:51,905 without the world's number one-ranked male tennis player. 85 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:54,241 Novak Djokovic returned to his native Serbia 86 00:02:54,341 --> 00:02:56,109 after being deported from Australia 87 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:58,478 for not being vaccinated against COVID. 88 00:02:58,579 --> 00:03:00,080 NEWSWOMAN: The Australian government said 89 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:03,150 it canceled his visa because Djokovic's presence 90 00:03:03,250 --> 00:03:06,653 could lead to an increase in anti-vaccination sentiment 91 00:03:06,753 --> 00:03:08,922 and even civil unrest. 92 00:03:09,056 --> 00:03:11,825 Australia requires everyone entering the country 93 00:03:11,925 --> 00:03:15,095 to be vaccinated or have a medical exemption. 94 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:16,597 Djokovic had an exemption 95 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:18,532 because of a recent COVID infection, 96 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:20,934 but it sparked outrage in Australia, 97 00:03:21,068 --> 00:03:23,670 apparently prompting the government to act. 98 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:27,474 An opinion poll yesterday showed 71% of Australians 99 00:03:27,574 --> 00:03:29,843 wanted Djokovic deported. 100 00:03:29,943 --> 00:03:33,580 Damn. It says a lot about you when that many Australians think 101 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,183 you're too dangerous to be in their country. 102 00:03:36,283 --> 00:03:38,085 I mean, this is the country whose health minister 103 00:03:38,151 --> 00:03:40,120 is a giant poisonous spider. 104 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:41,455 "Oh, I get things done!" 105 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:44,157 And Australia is the last country 106 00:03:44,258 --> 00:03:46,260 you want to get deported from. I mean, imagine. 107 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,829 Imagine stepping off a 25-hour flight, 108 00:03:48,929 --> 00:03:53,534 and then immediately having to get on another 25-hour flight. 109 00:03:53,634 --> 00:03:55,335 I don't know what Djokovic thinks is in the vaccine, 110 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:56,670 but it can't possibly be worse 111 00:03:56,770 --> 00:04:00,340 than breathing in farts for 50 hours straight. 112 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,776 But then again, it's not that surprising 113 00:04:02,876 --> 00:04:04,578 that Djokovic would be against the vaccine. 114 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:07,681 Keep in mind, that this is a man who says 115 00:04:07,781 --> 00:04:10,050 he knows that he has a gluten intolerance-- 116 00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:13,453 and this is completely true-- because he's physically weaker 117 00:04:13,554 --> 00:04:17,157 if he's holding a slice of bread. 118 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:21,061 Yeah. So gluten works like kryptonite for him. 119 00:04:21,161 --> 00:04:23,964 You think COVID is scary, but Djokovic could die 120 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:25,332 just walking past a bakery. 121 00:04:25,432 --> 00:04:26,867 "Oh, Au Bon Pain." 122 00:04:26,967 --> 00:04:29,169 I will say, as hard as it is to sympathize with Djokovic, 123 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:30,504 it is a little disturbing 124 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:32,239 that the Australian government allowed him in, 125 00:04:32,339 --> 00:04:34,708 then deported him just because they changed their minds. 126 00:04:34,808 --> 00:04:38,078 I mean, if a government can arbitrarily deport an athlete, 127 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:40,747 what's to stop them from deporting a whole team? 128 00:04:40,848 --> 00:04:43,884 And how could we get it to be the New York Jets? 129 00:04:43,984 --> 00:04:46,220 Yeah. And also, I love how the Australian government 130 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,123 is proclaiming that there's some health component 131 00:04:50,224 --> 00:04:51,825 to this, as if... 132 00:04:51,925 --> 00:04:53,493 I mean, you've been to Australia. 133 00:04:53,594 --> 00:04:56,163 It's not exactly the healthiest culture. 134 00:04:56,263 --> 00:04:57,831 They eat terrible food, 135 00:04:57,931 --> 00:05:00,601 they drink exuberant amounts of beer. 136 00:05:00,701 --> 00:05:04,271 A blooming onion has, like, 40,000 calories, Trevor. 137 00:05:04,371 --> 00:05:07,040 And you're gonna kick this guy out of the tennis tournament, 138 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:08,442 and you still haven't kicked out the stingray 139 00:05:08,542 --> 00:05:10,477 that killed Steve Irwin? You know what I mean? 140 00:05:10,577 --> 00:05:12,279 (Noah laughs) 141 00:05:12,379 --> 00:05:15,382 And I can relate to Novak Djokovic 142 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:17,718 'cause I've been kicked out a bunch of Outback Steakhouses, 143 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:22,356 and same as Novak, they said it was an issue with my Visa. 144 00:05:22,456 --> 00:05:25,058 -I don't know what that means, but I stand with you. -Yeah. 145 00:05:25,158 --> 00:05:27,761 What's a guy got to do to be allowed to play the tournament? 146 00:05:27,861 --> 00:05:31,131 Nine-time champion, three-time defending champion, 147 00:05:31,231 --> 00:05:34,067 world number one, tied all time for Grand Slam. 148 00:05:34,101 --> 00:05:36,270 What do you got to do, Trevor? 149 00:05:36,370 --> 00:05:37,738 Get vaccinated? 150 00:05:37,838 --> 00:05:40,541 Yup. 151 00:05:40,641 --> 00:05:42,509 All right, let's move on to some technology news. 152 00:05:42,609 --> 00:05:45,078 Arguably the most important tech breakthrough 153 00:05:45,179 --> 00:05:48,282 of the last few years has been 5G. 154 00:05:48,382 --> 00:05:51,151 And there are a lot of crazy conspiracy theories 155 00:05:51,251 --> 00:05:54,254 you might have heard, like 5G causes cancer, 156 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:57,824 or autism, or it's a mind control tool. 157 00:05:57,925 --> 00:06:00,594 I mean, a few weeks ago, it was actually going around 158 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:03,297 that when they turned on 5G, 159 00:06:03,397 --> 00:06:06,433 anyone who had gotten the COVID vaccine was going to explode. 160 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:09,136 This is a thing people believe, which is ridiculous. 161 00:06:09,236 --> 00:06:10,671 I mean, I have 5G on my phone, 162 00:06:10,771 --> 00:06:12,706 and I turned it on before we came out here. 163 00:06:12,806 --> 00:06:15,275 And look. Nothing happened. You see? 164 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:20,180 But it turns out, not everyone who has concerns... 165 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,816 (explosion) 166 00:06:22,916 --> 00:06:25,619 Anyway, it turns out not everyone who has concerns 167 00:06:25,719 --> 00:06:27,654 about 5G wears a tin hat. 168 00:06:27,754 --> 00:06:30,557 NEWSMAN: This morning, the major airlines warning of a possible 169 00:06:30,657 --> 00:06:34,661 catastrophic aviation crisis beginning in less than 24 hours 170 00:06:34,761 --> 00:06:36,697 when AT&T and Verizon are set to launch 171 00:06:36,797 --> 00:06:38,866 new, stronger, 5G technology, 172 00:06:38,966 --> 00:06:41,368 which would give faster wireless service. 173 00:06:41,468 --> 00:06:44,071 The concern-- whether 5G signals could interfere 174 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:46,240 with radio altimeters. 175 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:47,875 That's a device pilots use telling them 176 00:06:47,975 --> 00:06:50,077 how far they are from the ground 177 00:06:50,143 --> 00:06:51,912 and helping them land in poor visibility. 178 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:54,414 NEWSMAN 2: Executives from airlines including American, 179 00:06:54,515 --> 00:06:57,985 Delta, United and Southwest urging U.S. officials 180 00:06:58,085 --> 00:07:00,721 to keep new, stronger 5G signals 181 00:07:00,821 --> 00:07:03,457 at least two miles away from U.S. airports, 182 00:07:03,557 --> 00:07:06,293 saying in a letter, "Immediate intervention is needed 183 00:07:06,393 --> 00:07:09,129 "to avoid significant operational disruption. 184 00:07:09,229 --> 00:07:13,066 To be blunt, the nation's commerce will grind to a halt." 185 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:15,369 One union saying its pilots are prepared to 186 00:07:15,469 --> 00:07:18,772 ground their planes if the FAA doesn't act. 187 00:07:18,872 --> 00:07:21,842 Yeah, but how will they know how to ground their planes 188 00:07:21,942 --> 00:07:23,710 if there's 5G? 189 00:07:23,810 --> 00:07:25,846 -Just me? -(chuckles) 190 00:07:25,946 --> 00:07:27,147 Okay, look, look. 191 00:07:27,247 --> 00:07:29,883 I'm not saying the airlines are making this up. 192 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:31,451 I'm not saying that. 193 00:07:31,552 --> 00:07:35,455 But we all remember how they said the same thing about 194 00:07:35,556 --> 00:07:37,624 regular cell phones for 20 years, right? 195 00:07:37,724 --> 00:07:38,692 Yeah? 196 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:40,060 Remember how terrified they had us? 197 00:07:40,127 --> 00:07:42,196 "Everyone, airplane mode, or this plane could crash!" 198 00:07:42,296 --> 00:07:44,665 One time, I forgot to turn off my phone, and then 199 00:07:44,765 --> 00:07:46,567 the plane hit turbulence, and I looked at my phone, I was like, 200 00:07:46,667 --> 00:07:48,068 "Ah, shit! This was me!" 201 00:07:48,135 --> 00:07:49,570 "I'm sorry, everybody. I'm sorry." 202 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:50,904 So, anyway, 203 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:53,073 I don't think the airlines are going to win this fight. 204 00:07:53,173 --> 00:07:57,444 And, honestly, even if it's true this time-- if it's true-- 205 00:07:57,544 --> 00:07:59,680 if you tell people that they can download a movie in a few 206 00:07:59,780 --> 00:08:03,450 seconds, but there's a slight chance it'll crash a plane, 207 00:08:03,550 --> 00:08:05,485 pretty sure people are going to be like, 208 00:08:05,586 --> 00:08:07,287 "Yeah, it's-it's worth it. 209 00:08:07,387 --> 00:08:09,022 -I'll take that chance. Fast downloads." -Yeah, 210 00:08:09,122 --> 00:08:13,727 I... Also, how is this my problem? 211 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:17,631 I mean, you want me to take on the cell phone company industry 212 00:08:17,731 --> 00:08:19,032 and the airline industry? 213 00:08:19,066 --> 00:08:21,268 Right? You knew 5G was coming. 214 00:08:21,368 --> 00:08:22,336 It comes after 4G. 215 00:08:22,436 --> 00:08:24,304 You know what's after 5G, Trevor? 216 00:08:24,404 --> 00:08:26,607 6G. How high you want me to go? 217 00:08:26,707 --> 00:08:27,708 You know? 218 00:08:27,808 --> 00:08:29,142 -I... -(laughing) 219 00:08:29,243 --> 00:08:31,245 You're asking me to take on the airlines. 220 00:08:31,345 --> 00:08:33,213 A place where I can't even get a full can of Coke, 221 00:08:33,313 --> 00:08:35,148 or I can't even change my middle seat. 222 00:08:35,249 --> 00:08:36,250 This is not my problem. 223 00:08:36,350 --> 00:08:37,718 -But you know what? -What? 224 00:08:37,818 --> 00:08:39,353 -Crash together, my friend. -(laughing): Yes. I love that. 225 00:08:39,453 --> 00:08:40,420 That's what friendship's all about. 226 00:08:40,521 --> 00:08:41,588 Yeah. I love that. 227 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:42,789 All right. 228 00:08:42,890 --> 00:08:44,525 Let's make all our moms happy and go to church 229 00:08:44,625 --> 00:08:45,959 with this next story. 230 00:08:46,059 --> 00:08:47,928 Have you ever seen a pastor who worked a little too hard 231 00:08:48,061 --> 00:08:49,830 to keep the congregation's attention? 232 00:08:49,930 --> 00:08:51,932 Well, one pastor in Oklahoma, well, 233 00:08:52,065 --> 00:08:54,501 he, uh, just outdid them all. 234 00:08:54,601 --> 00:08:56,870 NEWSWOMAN: A Tulsa church leader facing criticism for 235 00:08:56,970 --> 00:08:59,339 smearing his spit 236 00:08:59,439 --> 00:09:02,009 on a man's face during a sermon. 237 00:09:02,109 --> 00:09:04,611 It happened over the weekend. Gross. 238 00:09:04,711 --> 00:09:06,446 So many people talking about this on social media yesterday. 239 00:09:06,547 --> 00:09:09,316 Pastor Michael Todd of Transformation Church in Bixby 240 00:09:09,416 --> 00:09:11,852 was giving a sermon on Sunday about how to 241 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:14,788 "Receive God's vision." "It can be nasty," he said. 242 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:17,024 (people exclaim) 243 00:09:17,124 --> 00:09:19,193 I just bought my dream car, 244 00:09:19,293 --> 00:09:21,795 and now you're going to ask me 245 00:09:21,895 --> 00:09:24,198 to sell it back 246 00:09:24,298 --> 00:09:29,670 and ride in the hooptie again? 247 00:09:29,770 --> 00:09:33,407 Yeah, because the vision I'm about to give you-- 248 00:09:33,507 --> 00:09:36,176 it might get nasty. 249 00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:39,313 (people exclaiming) 250 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:40,514 NEWSWOMAN: Well, the pastor says 251 00:09:40,614 --> 00:09:42,049 while he was trying to make a point 252 00:09:42,149 --> 00:09:43,250 in his sermon on Sunday, 253 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:45,552 he realizes that he crossed the line. 254 00:09:45,652 --> 00:09:48,222 And the guy onstage, that was his brother. 255 00:09:48,322 --> 00:09:51,225 (crew laughs) 256 00:09:51,325 --> 00:09:54,228 How is COVID still spreading in America? 257 00:09:54,328 --> 00:09:56,363 We're doing everything right. 258 00:09:56,463 --> 00:09:59,900 Huh? We're doing everything right. 259 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,469 Look, I know 260 00:10:02,569 --> 00:10:05,038 it looks nasty, 261 00:10:05,138 --> 00:10:08,175 but I will say this pastor's point 262 00:10:08,275 --> 00:10:10,177 that God might ask you to do stuff 263 00:10:10,277 --> 00:10:12,746 that other people don't like, he's not wrong. 264 00:10:12,846 --> 00:10:14,715 Yeah, all these people who are like, 265 00:10:14,815 --> 00:10:17,885 "God doesn't want you to wipe your nasty spit on people." 266 00:10:17,985 --> 00:10:19,786 Yo, somewhere Abraham is like, 267 00:10:19,887 --> 00:10:21,889 "Yo, he told me to kill my damn son. 268 00:10:21,989 --> 00:10:23,824 "I wish he just wanted me to spit on him. 269 00:10:23,924 --> 00:10:25,058 "You know how much therapy 270 00:10:25,158 --> 00:10:26,560 "me and my kid had to go to after that? 271 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:28,929 Shit was never the same." 272 00:10:29,029 --> 00:10:30,564 The pastor's just trying to say 273 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,599 sometimes God will give you a message 274 00:10:32,699 --> 00:10:34,801 that may throw you off, 275 00:10:34,902 --> 00:10:37,771 like phlegm in your face. 276 00:10:37,871 --> 00:10:39,506 And, you know, the fact that that was his brother 277 00:10:39,606 --> 00:10:41,542 that he was doing that to, for me, that makes it even worse 278 00:10:41,642 --> 00:10:43,911 'cause now it feels like he just uses the scriptures 279 00:10:44,011 --> 00:10:45,712 to mess with his sibling. 280 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:47,781 "And God sent a great flood. 281 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:49,550 "And to show you what that flood looked like, 282 00:10:49,650 --> 00:10:51,451 "I'm gonna stick my brother's hand 283 00:10:51,552 --> 00:10:53,220 in some warm water while he sleeps." 284 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:54,521 (chuckles) 285 00:10:55,856 --> 00:10:58,158 I-I don't know. I mean, I see this 286 00:10:58,258 --> 00:11:01,662 as a beautiful expression of spirituality. 287 00:11:01,762 --> 00:11:03,230 Kosta, what are you-you talking about? 288 00:11:03,330 --> 00:11:05,199 This is disgusting. It's gross. 289 00:11:05,299 --> 00:11:08,068 Okay, phew. I... Honestly, I didn't want to say anything 290 00:11:08,101 --> 00:11:09,236 'cause it's a Black church, 291 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:11,905 but what the (bleep) is going on, dude? 292 00:11:12,072 --> 00:11:13,307 -Huh? Is this what... -(laughs) 293 00:11:13,407 --> 00:11:15,075 Is this what Black church is all about? 294 00:11:15,108 --> 00:11:17,511 No, it's not. That's why it's disgusting. 295 00:11:17,611 --> 00:11:18,912 I mean, that being said, it's not as bad 296 00:11:19,079 --> 00:11:21,081 as what happens at white church. 297 00:11:21,181 --> 00:11:23,984 (crew laughs) 298 00:11:24,084 --> 00:11:26,620 But you're right about it... 299 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,690 When religion was invented, they were doing some dark shit. 300 00:11:29,790 --> 00:11:32,526 -They were. -It kind of shows how sensitive we are now. 301 00:11:32,626 --> 00:11:34,695 -Yeah. -Little spit on the face from your brother. 302 00:11:34,795 --> 00:11:36,463 I mean, my brother used to pin me down 303 00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:38,265 and drink orange juice and then do the... 304 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:39,867 the-the... You know what that is? 305 00:11:39,967 --> 00:11:41,535 -No, I don't know what this is. -You'd do the spit 306 00:11:41,635 --> 00:11:43,170 down to the face and then yo-yo it back up. 307 00:11:43,270 --> 00:11:45,105 -I'm sorry, what? -I didn't realize my brother 308 00:11:45,172 --> 00:11:47,774 was just presenting me with scripture at the time. 309 00:11:47,875 --> 00:11:50,143 (crew laughs) 310 00:11:50,244 --> 00:11:53,313 -(chuckles): You didn't do that? It's... -No. 311 00:11:53,413 --> 00:11:55,115 M-Maybe it's just my brother. 312 00:11:55,148 --> 00:11:56,183 Did you know he was doing this 313 00:11:56,283 --> 00:11:57,417 when he was drinking the orange juice? 314 00:11:57,518 --> 00:11:58,952 -Did you know it was coming? -I... Sometimes. 315 00:11:59,119 --> 00:12:00,654 That was... That was so tricky. Half the time, 316 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:02,356 he was just having some breakfast orange juice. 317 00:12:02,456 --> 00:12:03,724 And the other time, 318 00:12:03,824 --> 00:12:05,559 he was getting ready to kick the shit out of me. 319 00:12:05,659 --> 00:12:07,294 So... 320 00:12:07,394 --> 00:12:10,063 -That's trauma, Kosta. -Yeah, that's trauma. Yeah. 321 00:12:10,097 --> 00:12:13,267 And, uh, you know, he's probably watching. 322 00:12:13,367 --> 00:12:16,069 And I'm on to you, dude, and-and I don't... I don't... 323 00:12:16,170 --> 00:12:17,237 You know, I guess you won, 324 00:12:17,337 --> 00:12:19,173 'cause here I am crying on TV about it. 325 00:12:19,273 --> 00:12:20,774 (crew laughs) 326 00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:23,410 We're gonna talk about this in the break. 327 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:26,146 -Yeah, please. -We-We're gonna... We're gonna fix this. 328 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:27,514 All right, when we come back, 329 00:12:27,614 --> 00:12:30,250 we'll tell you why you're wearing the wrong mask 330 00:12:30,350 --> 00:12:31,919 and how to get the right mask 331 00:12:32,085 --> 00:12:35,322 and why that mask is also wrong, so stay tuned. 332 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:38,492 -'Cause, you see, your brother can't... -Oh. Yeah. 333 00:12:38,592 --> 00:12:40,894 -Is that... No, no, go ahead. -I was just re... Just trying 334 00:12:40,994 --> 00:12:42,529 -to keep reading upside down. Yeah. -Y-You go ahead, man. 335 00:12:44,198 --> 00:12:45,532 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 336 00:12:45,632 --> 00:12:49,069 We are now entering year 50 of the coronavirus pandemic, 337 00:12:49,169 --> 00:12:50,804 and dealing with life in a pandemic 338 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:53,474 has been a struggle for a lot of people-- 339 00:12:53,574 --> 00:12:55,542 small business owners, teachers 340 00:12:55,642 --> 00:12:56,543 and, of course, 341 00:12:56,643 --> 00:12:59,279 people with a chin fetish. 342 00:12:59,379 --> 00:13:02,116 But one group that's having a tougher time than you'd expect 343 00:13:02,216 --> 00:13:03,584 is the CDC. 344 00:13:03,684 --> 00:13:05,519 So, let's catch up with all the latest 345 00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:08,589 in another edition of Keeping Up with Corona. 346 00:13:08,689 --> 00:13:10,724 ♪ ♪ 347 00:13:13,060 --> 00:13:14,428 From the beginning of this pandemic, 348 00:13:14,528 --> 00:13:18,365 the CDC has tried to give clear, simple guidelines to the public. 349 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:19,900 And, from the beginning, 350 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,602 they have mostly failed. 351 00:13:21,702 --> 00:13:23,637 I mean, do you remember their mask chart? 352 00:13:23,737 --> 00:13:26,140 Shit looked like a traffic light had an aneurysm. 353 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,142 And, look, I'm not saying that telling 300 million people 354 00:13:28,242 --> 00:13:30,244 how to behave during a global pandemic is easy, 355 00:13:30,344 --> 00:13:32,746 but it also doesn't seem like the CDC 356 00:13:32,846 --> 00:13:34,415 is getting any better at it. 357 00:13:34,515 --> 00:13:37,584 NEWSWOMAN: The CDC has updated its guidance on masks. 358 00:13:37,684 --> 00:13:38,819 According to the agency, 359 00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:41,889 cloth masks do not protect against the virus 360 00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:44,291 as effectively as other masks. 361 00:13:44,358 --> 00:13:46,560 NEWSMAN: Saying any mask is better than none, 362 00:13:46,660 --> 00:13:50,564 but masks that fit well, like N95s, offer the best protection. 363 00:13:50,664 --> 00:13:51,965 The agency stopping short 364 00:13:52,066 --> 00:13:54,301 of urging all Americans to upgrade their masks, 365 00:13:54,401 --> 00:13:57,471 drawing immediate criticism from some health experts. 366 00:13:57,571 --> 00:13:59,573 You know, the approach that the CDC has taken right now 367 00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:01,909 with masking, I think, just adds to the confusion. 368 00:14:02,009 --> 00:14:04,178 We should be making it loud and clear 369 00:14:04,311 --> 00:14:06,713 that the N95 respirators are really the only thing 370 00:14:06,814 --> 00:14:08,315 that will really protect you. 371 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:10,150 Okay, okay, hold on, hold on. 372 00:14:10,317 --> 00:14:13,153 If cloth masks don't protect you, 373 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,756 then tell people they need to wear a better mask. 374 00:14:15,856 --> 00:14:17,658 What's this "Well, it doesn't really work, 375 00:14:17,758 --> 00:14:19,593 but-but it's-it's fine, it's fine"? 376 00:14:19,693 --> 00:14:22,129 I mean, in that case, I might as well wear a T-shirt 377 00:14:22,229 --> 00:14:25,199 with a seat belt drawn on it instead of an actual seat belt. 378 00:14:25,332 --> 00:14:26,467 Yeah. I mean, it looks like a seat belt. 379 00:14:26,567 --> 00:14:27,801 Doesn't protect me, but... (chuckles) 380 00:14:27,901 --> 00:14:29,369 I mean, apparently, that's enough, right? 381 00:14:29,470 --> 00:14:31,038 The thing I really don't understand is, 382 00:14:31,138 --> 00:14:33,807 now that we know cloth masks don't work, 383 00:14:33,907 --> 00:14:35,876 who are the people who are still wearing them? 384 00:14:35,976 --> 00:14:37,111 Huh? 385 00:14:37,211 --> 00:14:38,645 'Cause, look... (stammers) 386 00:14:38,746 --> 00:14:40,581 we've pretty much got two teams, yeah? 387 00:14:40,681 --> 00:14:42,116 You've got the people who are scared of COVID, 388 00:14:42,216 --> 00:14:44,284 and they're running around looking like Bane. 389 00:14:44,318 --> 00:14:46,520 And then you've got people who think COVID is total bullshit, 390 00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:48,622 so they refuse to wear a mask altogether. 391 00:14:48,722 --> 00:14:49,790 And I don't agree with them, 392 00:14:49,890 --> 00:14:51,391 but at least they stand by their beliefs 393 00:14:51,492 --> 00:14:52,893 and they don't care if those beliefs 394 00:14:52,993 --> 00:14:55,195 end up killing their coworkers on the Supreme Court. 395 00:14:55,295 --> 00:14:56,530 But... 396 00:14:56,630 --> 00:14:59,600 a cloth mask is just wishy-washy. 397 00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:02,403 Like, you either want to protect yourself or you don't. 398 00:15:02,503 --> 00:15:05,406 You can't just-the-tip the coronavirus. 399 00:15:05,506 --> 00:15:06,573 Come on, people. 400 00:15:06,673 --> 00:15:07,708 It's like someone being like, 401 00:15:07,808 --> 00:15:09,910 "Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wear condoms, but, uh, 402 00:15:10,010 --> 00:15:11,645 "only if they're made like a doily. 403 00:15:11,745 --> 00:15:13,380 I buy my condoms on Etsy." 404 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,182 At the same time though, this does suck. 405 00:15:15,315 --> 00:15:16,650 I mean, we spent two years 406 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:19,319 building up a whole wardrobe of cloth masks. 407 00:15:19,353 --> 00:15:21,054 You know? I had masks for every situation. 408 00:15:21,155 --> 00:15:22,122 I had my work mask. 409 00:15:22,222 --> 00:15:23,490 I had my weekend mask. 410 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:25,726 I had my masks for going to funerals. 411 00:15:25,826 --> 00:15:27,628 I had my masks for going to weddings. 412 00:15:27,728 --> 00:15:29,029 It's too bad. 413 00:15:29,129 --> 00:15:30,397 Now, if you wore a cloth mask 414 00:15:30,497 --> 00:15:32,666 because the CDC was kind of okay with it 415 00:15:32,766 --> 00:15:34,034 and you got infected with COVID, 416 00:15:34,134 --> 00:15:36,637 well, the CDC also has some new guidelines 417 00:15:36,737 --> 00:15:39,706 for how long you should isolate from other people. 418 00:15:39,807 --> 00:15:41,175 And it turns out 419 00:15:41,341 --> 00:15:43,477 those guidelines are weird as hell. 420 00:15:43,577 --> 00:15:46,947 At the same time, the CDC finds itself facing backlash 421 00:15:47,047 --> 00:15:49,149 over some of its other recommendations 422 00:15:49,283 --> 00:15:52,019 concerning how long those who have tested positive 423 00:15:52,119 --> 00:15:53,787 for COVID should isolate, 424 00:15:53,887 --> 00:15:56,290 and whether a negative test should be required 425 00:15:56,356 --> 00:15:58,092 to end that isolation. 426 00:15:58,192 --> 00:16:01,762 NEWSMAN 2: The CDC says the infected can end isolation 427 00:16:01,862 --> 00:16:06,100 if fever-free just five days after a positive test, 428 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,703 when a study of infections in the NBA suggests 429 00:16:09,803 --> 00:16:12,573 more than a third are probably still infectious. 430 00:16:12,673 --> 00:16:15,542 "Ending isolation at day five should include 431 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:18,312 a negative rapid antigen test," 432 00:16:18,378 --> 00:16:19,880 tweeted one of the researchers. 433 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:23,317 "Why do all the work to identify infections 434 00:16:23,417 --> 00:16:26,620 "if we are going to just let them go back to work 435 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,323 while still potentially infectious?" 436 00:16:29,423 --> 00:16:30,691 Yeah, that's a great point. 437 00:16:30,791 --> 00:16:33,060 These CDC guidelines could be sending people back 438 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,029 to work while they are still contagious. 439 00:16:36,130 --> 00:16:39,333 It's like the CDC is trying to turn every office 440 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:40,768 into the CDC office. 441 00:16:40,868 --> 00:16:42,169 "Look, if we have to work 442 00:16:42,336 --> 00:16:44,738 alongside deadly viruses every day, then so do you!" 443 00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:46,273 Why would you do that? Why would you test 444 00:16:46,340 --> 00:16:47,608 and then still let the person go? 445 00:16:47,708 --> 00:16:49,676 Imagine if the TSA had that philosophy. 446 00:16:49,777 --> 00:16:52,279 Just, like, pat you down. "Aah! Is that a gun?" 447 00:16:52,346 --> 00:16:53,847 "Yeah." "All right, go on." 448 00:16:53,947 --> 00:16:56,183 Now, to be fair, to be fair, Dr. Fauci says 449 00:16:56,283 --> 00:16:57,818 that the new rules are an attempt 450 00:16:57,918 --> 00:16:59,887 to keep the most infectious people at home 451 00:16:59,987 --> 00:17:03,624 while also getting essential workers back to work faster. 452 00:17:03,724 --> 00:17:07,661 'Cause let's face it. Basically everyone has Omicron right now. 453 00:17:07,761 --> 00:17:10,330 And if people don't have to be in isolation as long, 454 00:17:10,431 --> 00:17:13,100 then, hopefully, hospitals can bring back nurses faster. 455 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,369 You know, hopefully, schools can bring back teachers. 456 00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:17,471 And the NBA teams can stop signing sweaty dads 457 00:17:17,571 --> 00:17:19,773 that they found at the local YMCA. 458 00:17:19,873 --> 00:17:24,878 But even after you come out of your much shorter isolation, 459 00:17:24,978 --> 00:17:27,915 the CDC has some pretty weird expectations 460 00:17:28,015 --> 00:17:30,017 of what you should be doing next. 461 00:17:30,117 --> 00:17:32,319 Part of the guidance we recently got from the CDC 462 00:17:32,386 --> 00:17:35,489 was what to do after five days of isolation. 463 00:17:35,589 --> 00:17:37,724 Once you're out, and you have no more symptoms, 464 00:17:37,825 --> 00:17:40,060 they say these are the people you should stay away from 465 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,229 after you end your COVID five-day isolation. 466 00:17:42,329 --> 00:17:44,998 People who are overweight, battling depression, 467 00:17:45,099 --> 00:17:47,868 current or former smokers and pregnant people. 468 00:17:47,968 --> 00:17:49,837 That's nearly nine out of ten people. 469 00:17:49,937 --> 00:17:52,372 (laughing): Yo, guys. 470 00:17:52,473 --> 00:17:54,408 Yo, the CDC is crazy, people. 471 00:17:54,508 --> 00:17:57,144 You can come out of isolation as long as you don't interact 472 00:17:57,277 --> 00:17:58,879 with basically any other person. 473 00:17:58,979 --> 00:18:00,914 You realize, you're describing isolation. 474 00:18:01,014 --> 00:18:03,083 And look, I understand. I understand that the CDC wants 475 00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:04,618 to protect vulnerable populations, 476 00:18:04,718 --> 00:18:06,887 but this is a legit minefield. 477 00:18:06,987 --> 00:18:09,656 I mean, you know what's not gonna help depressed people? 478 00:18:09,757 --> 00:18:11,191 Everyone staying away from them. 479 00:18:11,291 --> 00:18:13,026 Not to mention, we're supposed 480 00:18:13,127 --> 00:18:15,295 to stay away from overweight people? 481 00:18:15,395 --> 00:18:18,332 Yo, CDC's gonna get people cancelled 482 00:18:18,432 --> 00:18:19,767 'cause now, you're gonna be like, 483 00:18:19,867 --> 00:18:22,202 "Hey, I can't hang out with you for a few days." 484 00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:23,871 And they're going to be like, "Why not?" 485 00:18:23,971 --> 00:18:27,608 "Uh..." 486 00:18:27,708 --> 00:18:29,176 Honestly, it sounds like the CDC is trying 487 00:18:29,309 --> 00:18:30,577 to describe a very specific person, 488 00:18:30,677 --> 00:18:32,579 but just doesn't want to call them out. 489 00:18:32,679 --> 00:18:34,047 That's what it seems like. 490 00:18:34,148 --> 00:18:35,416 They don't want to embarrass them. 491 00:18:35,516 --> 00:18:37,818 "Stay away from a former smoker who's pregnant 492 00:18:37,918 --> 00:18:39,186 "whose hair is curly, 493 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:41,522 "but everybody knows is actually a perm, 494 00:18:41,622 --> 00:18:43,123 "and she's really into pandas 495 00:18:43,257 --> 00:18:44,958 "even though she's never been to China. 496 00:18:45,058 --> 00:18:46,794 Her name rhymes with 'Bamantha.'" 497 00:18:46,894 --> 00:18:49,430 And, look, I know that a lot of this confusion is because 498 00:18:49,530 --> 00:18:51,865 the virus itself is confusing. I understand that. 499 00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:53,267 It's constantly changing, 500 00:18:53,333 --> 00:18:55,803 we're learning new things and it's hard to keep up. 501 00:18:55,903 --> 00:18:58,038 It's like trying to stay on top of TikTok trends. 502 00:18:58,138 --> 00:18:59,306 You're like, "Okay, I finally learned 503 00:18:59,406 --> 00:19:01,008 "the 'I Ain't Ever Been With A Baddie' dance." 504 00:19:01,108 --> 00:19:04,478 And TikTok is like, "No! We're doing Encanto memes now." 505 00:19:04,578 --> 00:19:07,047 But it absolutely does not help when the people 506 00:19:07,147 --> 00:19:10,517 who have to explain what to do in response to the virus 507 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:12,286 answer like this: 508 00:19:12,386 --> 00:19:15,022 At what point does the administration say, 509 00:19:15,122 --> 00:19:17,124 "You know what? This strategy isn't working. 510 00:19:17,291 --> 00:19:18,492 "We're going to change strategies." 511 00:19:18,592 --> 00:19:21,762 Six former administration officials last week wrote that 512 00:19:21,862 --> 00:19:24,832 open letter urging the administration to change course, 513 00:19:24,932 --> 00:19:26,734 to change strategy. 514 00:19:26,834 --> 00:19:28,035 Is it time? 515 00:19:28,135 --> 00:19:32,439 It is time for us to do what we have been doing 516 00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:34,074 and that time is every day. 517 00:19:34,174 --> 00:19:37,878 "It is time for us to do what we have been doing 518 00:19:37,978 --> 00:19:41,315 and that time is every day?" 519 00:19:41,415 --> 00:19:43,417 Why does that sound so familiar? 520 00:19:43,517 --> 00:19:45,919 Oracle, when will it be done? 521 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:50,023 It is time for us to do what we have been doing, 522 00:19:50,124 --> 00:19:52,659 and that time is every day. 523 00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:56,764 Now, look, Kamala's point 524 00:19:56,864 --> 00:19:58,966 was that the administration doesn't need a new plan 525 00:19:59,066 --> 00:20:01,268 because we already have a way out of this pandemic, 526 00:20:01,368 --> 00:20:02,503 which is everyone getting vaccinated. 527 00:20:02,603 --> 00:20:04,705 But it should be obvious by now 528 00:20:04,805 --> 00:20:07,107 that hoping everyone gets vaxxed isn't enough. 529 00:20:07,274 --> 00:20:09,109 Which is why the Biden administration 530 00:20:09,276 --> 00:20:10,477 is rolling out a new plan 531 00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:13,280 to get everyone in America an at-home COVID test 532 00:20:13,313 --> 00:20:16,450 just as soon as the Omicron wave is over. 533 00:20:16,550 --> 00:20:18,018 Just into the CNN newsroom, 534 00:20:18,118 --> 00:20:20,087 the website where you can order 535 00:20:20,187 --> 00:20:23,123 free COVID-19 at-home tests from the government 536 00:20:23,290 --> 00:20:24,491 is up and running. 537 00:20:24,591 --> 00:20:26,293 The site was quietly launched today. 538 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:27,895 We just checked. It does work. 539 00:20:27,995 --> 00:20:32,066 Go to www.CovidTest.gov, 540 00:20:32,166 --> 00:20:34,668 and that's where you can order your tests. 541 00:20:34,768 --> 00:20:37,137 NEWSWOMAN: At this point, you can order four per household, 542 00:20:37,304 --> 00:20:38,505 and we're told that they'll ship 543 00:20:38,605 --> 00:20:40,307 within seven to 12 days of ordering, 544 00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:41,742 about a week to a week and a half. 545 00:20:41,842 --> 00:20:43,243 So, let's say you go online, 546 00:20:43,343 --> 00:20:45,379 and tomorrow, you place an order on Wednesday, the 19th. 547 00:20:45,479 --> 00:20:48,549 They should be on their way to you by the end of the month. 548 00:20:48,649 --> 00:20:50,451 Okay. Okay, look, I mean, it's great 549 00:20:50,551 --> 00:20:52,386 that tests are finally gonna be available to everyone, 550 00:20:52,486 --> 00:20:54,888 but seven to 12 days? 551 00:20:54,988 --> 00:20:58,625 You don't think that's a little too long in a pandemic? 552 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:00,627 I mean, every day is precious. 553 00:21:00,727 --> 00:21:02,296 Every single day is precious in a pandemic. 554 00:21:02,396 --> 00:21:04,465 If anyone should know that, it's Joe Biden. 555 00:21:04,565 --> 00:21:05,899 You know, I can't help but think 556 00:21:05,999 --> 00:21:08,435 that if America just took a military approach to COVID, 557 00:21:08,535 --> 00:21:11,739 this testing thing would be solved like that. 558 00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:13,407 'Cause there's no delays 559 00:21:13,507 --> 00:21:15,676 when it comes to the American military. 560 00:21:15,776 --> 00:21:19,480 America doesn't need bombs and then start building them. 561 00:21:19,580 --> 00:21:22,583 America always has bombs ready to go. 562 00:21:22,683 --> 00:21:25,385 If America wants to drone someone, no one is like, 563 00:21:25,486 --> 00:21:27,087 "Okay, we can place the order now, 564 00:21:27,187 --> 00:21:28,989 "and then we wait seven to 12 days. 565 00:21:29,089 --> 00:21:31,725 Unless there's a holiday. Then, in that case..." 566 00:21:31,825 --> 00:21:33,026 No. It's just boom! 567 00:21:33,127 --> 00:21:35,362 That terrorist is gone, baby. 568 00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:36,930 What? It was just the family? 569 00:21:37,030 --> 00:21:38,332 Well, boom! They're still gone. 570 00:21:38,432 --> 00:21:39,867 I stand by my "boom." 571 00:21:39,967 --> 00:21:42,069 If America was that proactive when it comes to pandemics, 572 00:21:42,169 --> 00:21:43,937 we would have all gotten these tests 573 00:21:44,037 --> 00:21:47,408 months before Omicron even got here. 574 00:21:47,508 --> 00:21:48,575 Although, to be honest with you, 575 00:21:48,675 --> 00:21:52,112 I don't even know if I trust at-home tests. 576 00:21:52,246 --> 00:21:54,348 Just gonna test ourselves for antigens? 577 00:21:54,448 --> 00:21:55,983 Is that before or after we mess up the directions 578 00:21:56,083 --> 00:21:57,584 on an Easy Mac? 579 00:21:57,684 --> 00:21:59,319 So, look, I know a lot of people 580 00:21:59,420 --> 00:22:00,687 are frustrated with the government right now, 581 00:22:00,788 --> 00:22:01,889 and they're depressed 582 00:22:01,989 --> 00:22:04,691 that this pandemic seems to never end. 583 00:22:04,792 --> 00:22:07,327 Like, when are we going back to normal life? 584 00:22:07,428 --> 00:22:09,463 When can we go to work 585 00:22:09,563 --> 00:22:11,398 and hang out with friends like we used to? 586 00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:14,601 When is The Daily Show going back to having an audience? 587 00:22:14,701 --> 00:22:17,404 -You got me, Trevor. -You don't count! 588 00:22:18,372 --> 00:22:20,641 It's all a mess. But the good news is... 589 00:22:20,741 --> 00:22:23,577 The good news is it won't be a mess much longer 590 00:22:23,677 --> 00:22:27,581 because, people, if we just keep doing what we've been doing, 591 00:22:27,681 --> 00:22:31,285 then it'll be time to keep doing it every day 592 00:22:31,385 --> 00:22:33,153 until it's time. 593 00:22:33,287 --> 00:22:36,623 All right, when we come back, Dr. Bernice King will join us 594 00:22:36,723 --> 00:22:39,359 to talk about the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr. 595 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:41,161 -You don't want to miss it. -KOSTA: Yeah. 596 00:22:41,295 --> 00:22:43,297 -I'm sorry, Kosta. I was a little... -I've been sitting... 597 00:22:43,263 --> 00:22:45,165 I just... Yeah, I-I just... I'm sorry, man. 598 00:22:45,265 --> 00:22:47,735 I-I should... I-I lost it. I'm sorry. 599 00:22:50,037 --> 00:22:51,038 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 600 00:22:51,138 --> 00:22:53,140 My guest tonight is Dr. Bernice A. King. 601 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,342 She's the daughter of civil rights leaders 602 00:22:55,442 --> 00:22:58,345 Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King. 603 00:22:58,445 --> 00:23:00,480 She's here to talk about advancing the legacy 604 00:23:00,581 --> 00:23:04,952 of her parents through her work as the CEO of the King Center. 605 00:23:05,052 --> 00:23:07,988 Dr. Bernice King, welcome to The Daily Show. 606 00:23:08,088 --> 00:23:10,557 Thank you. I am so honored to be here. 607 00:23:10,657 --> 00:23:13,360 Um, let me start by saying happy belated, uh, 608 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:14,761 Martin Luther King Jr. Day. 609 00:23:14,861 --> 00:23:17,564 Um, I've-I've seldom seen a holiday 610 00:23:17,664 --> 00:23:20,500 that seems to be celebrated by as many different people 611 00:23:20,601 --> 00:23:22,102 in as many different ways 612 00:23:22,202 --> 00:23:24,304 as I have seen with MLK Day in America. 613 00:23:24,404 --> 00:23:27,708 And as the daughter of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., 614 00:23:27,808 --> 00:23:32,379 I'd love to know what you feel MLK Day should be about. 615 00:23:32,479 --> 00:23:34,948 Well, I try to capture it in three ways. 616 00:23:35,048 --> 00:23:38,919 It's a time to educate, advocate and activate. 617 00:23:39,019 --> 00:23:41,321 -Hmm. -And people fall under, you know, 618 00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:43,590 each one of those in different ways. 619 00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:48,028 Uh, somet-- some people use this as a time to, 620 00:23:48,128 --> 00:23:50,264 you know, advance the teachings of Dr. King, 621 00:23:50,364 --> 00:23:52,032 and then some people advocate. 622 00:23:52,132 --> 00:23:54,201 There are many issues that are-- we are faced with 623 00:23:54,301 --> 00:23:56,136 in-in this nation, um, 624 00:23:56,169 --> 00:23:57,571 that people are concerned about, 625 00:23:57,671 --> 00:24:00,240 and they use that time to raise their voices 626 00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:04,711 to advocate for issues and groups of people, in fact. 627 00:24:04,811 --> 00:24:06,046 And then activate-- 628 00:24:06,146 --> 00:24:08,315 how do we capture the holiday 629 00:24:08,415 --> 00:24:11,184 under one massive theme and focus? 630 00:24:11,285 --> 00:24:12,719 And it became about a day of service. 631 00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:16,590 So we started touting "a day on," not a day off. 632 00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:18,825 In your lifetime, you saw your father go 633 00:24:18,926 --> 00:24:21,762 from-from being one of the most hated men in America 634 00:24:21,862 --> 00:24:24,298 to now being one of the most beloved men in America 635 00:24:24,398 --> 00:24:25,732 but, ironically, 636 00:24:25,832 --> 00:24:27,734 almost not because he's changed 637 00:24:27,834 --> 00:24:30,704 but because people have changed what he stood for. 638 00:24:30,804 --> 00:24:34,274 Hmm. That's an interesting insight, Trevor. 639 00:24:34,374 --> 00:24:35,943 I never heard it put that way. 640 00:24:36,043 --> 00:24:37,177 Wow. 641 00:24:37,244 --> 00:24:38,812 Yeah, because we have an affinity 642 00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:41,782 for-for dead and deceased leaders. 643 00:24:41,882 --> 00:24:44,451 Uh, they're more comfortable when they're no longer with us, 644 00:24:44,551 --> 00:24:46,086 because they are not able to, 645 00:24:46,186 --> 00:24:48,789 you know, influence the masses in the same way. 646 00:24:48,889 --> 00:24:50,657 You know, it's kind of like good and evil. 647 00:24:50,757 --> 00:24:52,526 When you have something that's so powerful 648 00:24:52,626 --> 00:24:54,161 and revolutionary like that, 649 00:24:54,261 --> 00:24:56,897 you know, people do want to kind of find 650 00:24:56,997 --> 00:24:59,299 the easy, comfortable part of it. 651 00:24:59,399 --> 00:25:01,969 -Right. -Um, and-and I agree with you 652 00:25:02,135 --> 00:25:04,371 that-that that has happened. 653 00:25:04,471 --> 00:25:08,242 Um, and-and that's why 654 00:25:08,342 --> 00:25:11,945 we have to continue to be, uh, resolute 655 00:25:12,045 --> 00:25:15,015 in teaching the whole King. (chuckles) 656 00:25:15,148 --> 00:25:17,818 I think there's no escaping the fact that his whole essence 657 00:25:17,918 --> 00:25:20,487 cannot be spoken about without speaking about your mother, 658 00:25:20,587 --> 00:25:21,688 Coretta Scott King. 659 00:25:21,788 --> 00:25:23,390 What do you-- what do you wish people knew 660 00:25:23,490 --> 00:25:25,158 about the work that she was doing 661 00:25:25,259 --> 00:25:27,928 to help fight for civil rights in America? 662 00:25:28,028 --> 00:25:31,198 In many ways, I think she was much more, 663 00:25:31,298 --> 00:25:33,166 um, advanced, 664 00:25:33,267 --> 00:25:35,669 um, you know, uh, 665 00:25:35,769 --> 00:25:37,604 than my father, morally, 666 00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:40,073 uh, and in terms of her, 667 00:25:40,173 --> 00:25:42,242 um... insight. 668 00:25:42,342 --> 00:25:44,177 She gave him a lot of, you said, sounding board, 669 00:25:44,211 --> 00:25:46,980 feedback when he would prepare his messages and-and sermons. 670 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,185 Um, but probably one of the most important ways is when it was... 671 00:25:52,286 --> 00:25:54,454 uh, when he spoke out against the Vietnam War 672 00:25:54,554 --> 00:25:56,590 in 1967, you know. 673 00:25:56,690 --> 00:26:01,461 Um, everybody turned against him, literally. 674 00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:05,032 The Black leaders, the NAACP, Urban League-- 675 00:26:05,132 --> 00:26:07,601 they all turned against him because they felt 676 00:26:07,701 --> 00:26:09,136 that we had made so much progress 677 00:26:09,169 --> 00:26:12,573 on the civil rights front from the Johnson administration 678 00:26:12,673 --> 00:26:15,609 that we need to kind of, you know, you know, you know, 679 00:26:15,709 --> 00:26:17,277 -be careful at this point... -Right, about towing the line. 680 00:26:17,377 --> 00:26:19,913 ...that we don't alienate, yeah. 681 00:26:20,013 --> 00:26:23,383 And, so, um, my mom said, 682 00:26:23,483 --> 00:26:28,288 "Martin, we could really use your moral authority and voice." 683 00:26:28,388 --> 00:26:30,557 I mean, look, when you said he was the most hated 684 00:26:30,657 --> 00:26:32,359 and now one of the most loved, 685 00:26:32,459 --> 00:26:33,860 what I say to people is, 686 00:26:33,961 --> 00:26:37,931 the reason all of what we know about Dr. King 687 00:26:38,031 --> 00:26:40,200 at the level that we know it, um, 688 00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:44,171 and why we can't seem to shake him is because 689 00:26:44,204 --> 00:26:47,074 -she... she immediately went to work. -Wow. 690 00:26:47,174 --> 00:26:49,676 Two and a half months afterward, 691 00:26:49,776 --> 00:26:51,945 a grieving widow with four little children. 692 00:26:52,112 --> 00:26:55,015 She had this tremendous call to continue their work, 693 00:26:55,115 --> 00:26:59,519 and she was very strategic in everything she did. 694 00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:03,190 Um, it's-it's like, to me, that's why I call her 695 00:27:03,290 --> 00:27:05,525 -the architect of the King legacy. -Wow. 696 00:27:05,626 --> 00:27:09,129 Because she really provided a blueprint 697 00:27:09,162 --> 00:27:14,701 for how we must continue to remember Dr. King 698 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,838 and his teachings, and in no uncertain terms, 699 00:27:17,938 --> 00:27:22,442 she was insistent that we understood those teachings. 700 00:27:22,542 --> 00:27:25,946 You see some of the opponents of voting rights 701 00:27:26,046 --> 00:27:29,449 using your father's words in their defense, 702 00:27:29,549 --> 00:27:31,151 or using it on a day to say, 703 00:27:31,218 --> 00:27:33,153 "I'm pro Martin Luther King, Jr.," 704 00:27:33,253 --> 00:27:36,957 and then almost, you know, ignoring, um, his teachings 705 00:27:37,057 --> 00:27:39,293 on what he believed in. 706 00:27:39,393 --> 00:27:41,361 You're looking at a country that right now is considering 707 00:27:41,461 --> 00:27:43,163 getting rid of the filibuster. 708 00:27:43,196 --> 00:27:45,732 How do you grapple with the idea of the filibuster, 709 00:27:45,832 --> 00:27:47,901 where voting rights needs to go in America, 710 00:27:48,001 --> 00:27:50,804 and the risk of not having a filibuster in a country 711 00:27:50,904 --> 00:27:53,106 where power goes back and forth the entire time? 712 00:27:53,173 --> 00:27:55,542 Yeah. You know, I've had mixed feelings about it. 713 00:27:55,642 --> 00:27:59,246 I mean, I've tweeted out about, you know, doing away with it. 714 00:27:59,346 --> 00:28:01,648 But, you know, it's... 715 00:28:01,748 --> 00:28:03,884 it's a difficult thing because 716 00:28:03,984 --> 00:28:05,552 the filibuster is neutral, as we know it. 717 00:28:05,652 --> 00:28:07,988 It's how it's used that makes it 718 00:28:08,121 --> 00:28:10,657 -something for good or for bad. -Mm-hmm. 719 00:28:10,757 --> 00:28:16,296 We would not be a democracy if we did not have voting rights, 720 00:28:16,396 --> 00:28:20,934 and I agree with the Republicans 721 00:28:21,034 --> 00:28:23,804 in the sense that we should make it easy to vote 722 00:28:23,904 --> 00:28:27,608 and hard to cheat, but how that looks is different. 723 00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:29,743 -Mm. -You know. 724 00:28:29,843 --> 00:28:32,646 Um, and that's what we need to be talking more about. 725 00:28:32,746 --> 00:28:37,150 So, it's kind of hypocritical to me, um, uh, 726 00:28:37,184 --> 00:28:40,153 to say we shouldn't set aside this filibuster 727 00:28:40,220 --> 00:28:44,191 and just, at this point, vote on what the majority says 728 00:28:44,291 --> 00:28:46,827 for something that's fundamental to everybody. 729 00:28:46,927 --> 00:28:49,763 So you've got to weigh, you know, the workaround, 730 00:28:49,863 --> 00:28:51,898 you know, like, with, uh, 731 00:28:51,999 --> 00:28:54,635 -Kyrsten Sinema and, um... -Right. 732 00:28:54,735 --> 00:28:57,671 and-and Manchin saying, you know... 733 00:28:57,771 --> 00:29:00,374 you know, the poisonous aspect of our democracy 734 00:29:00,474 --> 00:29:03,377 and we have to stop what you just said-- the back and forth, 735 00:29:03,477 --> 00:29:05,779 I actually agree we have to do that. 736 00:29:05,879 --> 00:29:07,981 But at-at... 737 00:29:08,115 --> 00:29:09,650 The price is what we're looking at, 738 00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:11,752 the price of them getting back in charge 739 00:29:11,852 --> 00:29:14,321 and saying, "Okay, you did this, so we're going to do this 740 00:29:14,421 --> 00:29:15,656 -now that y'all have gone and lost it. -Right. 741 00:29:15,756 --> 00:29:19,726 Or the damage of 742 00:29:19,826 --> 00:29:22,262 millions of people being disenfranchised. 743 00:29:22,362 --> 00:29:23,563 That's what we're looking at. 744 00:29:23,664 --> 00:29:25,499 Yeah, no, I-I hear you, and-and it is a... 745 00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:28,335 it is a-it is a dilemma, and, again, 746 00:29:28,435 --> 00:29:29,836 funny enough, I think that's something that 747 00:29:29,937 --> 00:29:32,039 your father doesn't get credited enough with, 748 00:29:32,139 --> 00:29:35,509 is how much strategy he had to put into the movement. 749 00:29:35,609 --> 00:29:37,511 -How strategic he had to be in thinking about - Can-can... 750 00:29:37,611 --> 00:29:39,513 can you s... can you say that again? 751 00:29:39,613 --> 00:29:41,481 'Cause that's what's missing today. 752 00:29:41,582 --> 00:29:43,483 Before I let you go, I wanted to talk, uh, 753 00:29:43,584 --> 00:29:45,485 about some of the work that you've been doing recently, 754 00:29:45,586 --> 00:29:48,055 um, in spreading some-some really wonderful messages. 755 00:29:48,155 --> 00:29:50,090 You know, many people know you-you have 756 00:29:50,123 --> 00:29:52,092 a fantastic new book out, talking about love 757 00:29:52,192 --> 00:29:53,493 and it's a-it's a beautiful experience. 758 00:29:53,594 --> 00:29:55,128 Yes, there it is. It Starts With Me. 759 00:29:55,228 --> 00:29:57,197 -Yes, that's it. -And it's a really wonderful story 760 00:29:57,297 --> 00:29:59,499 of a young girl who's going out there and changing the world 761 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,402 in-in... you know, her expression of love, 762 00:30:02,502 --> 00:30:05,372 -and-and doing things whilst also, -Right. 763 00:30:05,472 --> 00:30:07,874 you know, loving people, not just sitting back. 764 00:30:07,975 --> 00:30:09,810 Um, but you're also the CEO 765 00:30:09,910 --> 00:30:12,479 of The King Center, and you-you've done something 766 00:30:12,579 --> 00:30:15,349 really revolutionary and-and... and different 767 00:30:15,449 --> 00:30:17,718 for an organization, in that you've moved 768 00:30:17,818 --> 00:30:20,020 a lot of your lessons and a lot of the ideas 769 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,823 about nonviolence online. 770 00:30:22,923 --> 00:30:24,558 Talk me through that a little bit, if you don't mind. 771 00:30:24,658 --> 00:30:29,863 We found a way to kind of, uh, develop an online experience 772 00:30:29,963 --> 00:30:32,266 that is reflective of what we do in person. 773 00:30:32,366 --> 00:30:36,603 So nonviolence, for us, is a love-centered way of thinking, 774 00:30:36,703 --> 00:30:39,306 engaging, speaking and acting 775 00:30:39,406 --> 00:30:41,475 that brings about personal, 776 00:30:41,575 --> 00:30:44,645 cultural and societal transformation. 777 00:30:44,745 --> 00:30:46,847 Daddy said, in "I Have a Dream", 778 00:30:46,947 --> 00:30:49,549 it's a part most people missed in his speech, 779 00:30:49,650 --> 00:30:55,088 "We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plain 780 00:30:55,188 --> 00:30:56,757 of dignity and discipline." 781 00:30:56,857 --> 00:31:00,193 He was talking about how we talk, too. You know? 782 00:31:00,294 --> 00:31:01,428 Words are powerful. 783 00:31:01,528 --> 00:31:03,497 In my Christian tradition, we say, 784 00:31:03,597 --> 00:31:05,499 "Death and life are in the power of the tongue." 785 00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:08,168 You can murder somebody with your tongue. 786 00:31:08,268 --> 00:31:10,304 So when people say "I'm not violent" because they 787 00:31:10,404 --> 00:31:13,307 don't do anything physically, it's not confined to that. 788 00:31:13,407 --> 00:31:16,743 -Mm. -We clear that up, even, in this online experience. 789 00:31:16,843 --> 00:31:18,545 For some reason, people think love is some... 790 00:31:18,645 --> 00:31:22,115 Like, this, you know, namby-pamby weak kind of thing. 791 00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:24,952 -(laughs) -No. It's not. 792 00:31:25,118 --> 00:31:27,421 What love does is it makes sure 793 00:31:27,521 --> 00:31:29,690 that you are always trying 794 00:31:29,790 --> 00:31:33,660 to elevate the situation and even the person. 795 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,363 So I try to participate in that part of the struggle, 796 00:31:36,463 --> 00:31:39,132 and that's what nonviolence, you know, really represents. 797 00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:40,968 And I think if we get to that place, 798 00:31:41,134 --> 00:31:43,637 we can have these hard conversations. 799 00:31:43,737 --> 00:31:45,239 But I'd like to... 800 00:31:45,339 --> 00:31:48,542 I like talk to people in a way where their defenses come down. 801 00:31:48,642 --> 00:31:50,978 -I love that. -I'm learning how to listen, 802 00:31:51,078 --> 00:31:52,913 'cause that's a nonviolent, you know, 803 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,182 um, um, um, tool, as well. 804 00:31:55,282 --> 00:31:57,851 Listen-- as my friend John Bryant 805 00:31:57,951 --> 00:31:59,186 of Operation HOPE would say-- 806 00:31:59,286 --> 00:32:02,089 listen without being defensive 807 00:32:02,189 --> 00:32:06,393 and speak, talk without being offensive. 808 00:32:06,493 --> 00:32:09,263 Hmm. Thank you so much for continuing to share 809 00:32:09,363 --> 00:32:11,331 not just, uh, your father's legacy 810 00:32:11,431 --> 00:32:14,134 but your mother's, as well, and, uh, you know, 811 00:32:14,234 --> 00:32:15,769 a story that has changed the nation forever. 812 00:32:15,869 --> 00:32:18,438 -Thank you so much for joining us. -Thank you so much. 813 00:32:18,538 --> 00:32:20,841 Don't forget, people, Dr. King's book, 814 00:32:20,941 --> 00:32:22,643 It Starts with Me, is available right now. 815 00:32:22,743 --> 00:32:24,111 For more information 816 00:32:24,144 --> 00:32:26,480 on the King Center's Nonviolence365 online classes, 817 00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:27,814 visit the website below. 818 00:32:27,915 --> 00:32:29,116 We're gonna take a quick break, 819 00:32:29,216 --> 00:32:31,251 but we'll be right back after this. 820 00:32:34,621 --> 00:32:35,822 Well, that's our show for tonight. 821 00:32:35,922 --> 00:32:37,324 But before we go, if you liked what you heard 822 00:32:37,424 --> 00:32:38,558 from Dr. Bernice King tonight, 823 00:32:38,658 --> 00:32:40,927 then consider supporting the King Center. 824 00:32:41,027 --> 00:32:43,697 The King Center is dedicated to educating the world 825 00:32:43,797 --> 00:32:46,666 on the life and teachings of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 826 00:32:46,766 --> 00:32:49,035 and to inspiring new generations 827 00:32:49,136 --> 00:32:51,004 to carry forward his unfinished work. 828 00:32:51,104 --> 00:32:52,672 If you can help support his vision, 829 00:32:52,772 --> 00:32:54,741 please donate at the link below. 830 00:32:54,841 --> 00:32:56,710 Until tomorrow, stay safe out there. 831 00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:58,812 Get your vaccine, and remember: 832 00:32:58,912 --> 00:33:02,916 cloth masks are not for COVID protection. 833 00:33:03,016 --> 00:33:05,352 They're just for robbing banks. 834 00:33:05,452 --> 00:33:06,820 Be safe. 835 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,790 Now here it is, Your Moment of Zen. 836 00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:11,925 ♪ ♪ 837 00:33:14,561 --> 00:33:16,196 -(cheering) -ANNOUNCER: Soft toss. 838 00:33:16,296 --> 00:33:19,666 Wide open. Touchdown, Kendrick Bourne.