What is Christmas without money changing hands?
Think about it.
Imagine Santa's coming to your house. To do what?
Just eat cookies and tell you he was there.
The whole point is he's delivering the gifts.
The gifts are bought with money.
Christmas is a celebration of capitalism.
Jesus, when he was born, what did the people do?
They brought gifts. Didn't come there empty-handed
'cause they were wise men.
They knew. You come there like a broke-ass bitch.
Oh, the son of God has been born. "What did you bring?"
"Oh, I didn't think I needed to bring anything."
No, it's the other way around.
Christmas is all about giving.
First thing you do is you give things to people.
They bought him the most expensive gifts, as well.
Gold, frankincense and myrrh.
It's not about that. It's about investment.
You buy them shit that they can use, like, later on in life.
I'm sick of people buying babies baby things.
Babies can't use baby things.
"Oh, I bought you, like, a jumper."
Like, they buy, like, a onesie.
The child has outgrown it in two months.
Buy kids functional things.
I buy babies Bitcoin.
-(crew laughs) -That's what I do.
If your baby gets born, your baby's got Bitcoin.
Yeah, you can thank me in 20 years.
ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from the heart of Times Square
in New York City, the only city in America,
it's The Daily Show.
Tonight, COVID ain't playing,
Kwanzaa is coming,
and Jodie Turner-Smith.
This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
Hey! What's going on, everybody?
Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah.
Let's jump straight into today's headlines.
♪ ♪
We kick things off with Omicron. It's the reason
Santa ain't coming into your house this year.
You can find your gifts in the front yard.
Today, Dr. Fauci announced
that three doses of the current vaccines
offer good enough protection against Omicron
that, as of now, we don't need
any new Omicron-specific vaccines.
And that, my friends, is great news.
You know? It's like finding out that your old charger
works with your new phone.
And this is actually good news for anti-vaxxers
'cause that means, like, your old conspiracy theories
will work for Omicron, too.
Yeah. You don't have to think of new conspiracy theories,
'cause that shit is hard. Like,
"Oh, this-this new Omicron vaccine
"is gonna, uh, make your blood, uh, gay?
Oh, man, this is hard."
But just because the current vaccines seem effective
doesn't mean that Omicron isn't turning into a big problem.
You see, the CDC says that it could soon lead
to a major COVID wave in America.
And it looks like when it comes to America's sports leagues,
that wave is already here.
Professional sports are being hit hard
by a surge in COVID cases.
A League source tells CNN that 28 NFL players
tested positive yesterday.
That's in addition to 37 players testing positive on Monday.
The two-day total more than doubles
the number of cases in previous two weeks.
The NHL postponing its ninth game this season
because of multiple players testing positive.
And in the NBA, a plethora of players
will miss time as a result of being placed
in the League's Health and Safety Protocols.
31 players are on the list according to CBS Sports,
including Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo,
the reigning Finals MVP.
He'll be out for tonight's game against the Pacers.
In Brooklyn, the Nets, they were nearly forced
to cancel their matchup with the Raptors.
Seven players in the NBA's Health and Safety Protocols,
including superstar James Harden.
They had the League minimum eight players available
for this game.
NEWSMAN: Almost nobody on the Brooklyn bench tonight
at Barclays Center. Look at that.
Oh, no, not this shit again, guys.
Not this shit again!
I mean, you remember what happened last time, right?
One week, we were all like,
"Huh, lots of NBA players getting COVID."
And then the next week, we were all at home,
showering with our Amazon packages.
I mean, so many players in the NBA
are getting COVID right now
that they're gonna have to change the logo.
In fact, there's so many players who have COVID
that I actually feel bad
for all the players who don't have it.
'Cause, I mean, that's one hell of a way to find out
that everyone on the team was hanging out without you.
The one thing I don't think they should be doing
is canceling games.
Yeah, I said it.
'Cause everyone hates it.
And I get that the teams barely have any players left,
but, like, just make them play anyway.
I mean, I don't know about you, but I would watch the hell out
of a basketball game that was one-on-five.
Can you imagine watching a football team
where the quarterback has no one to protect him? (chuckles)
What? The Giants already do that?
Wow. That doesn't seem safe.
In fact, this might end up being great for the fans.
Because y-you know how, deep down inside,
when you're at a game,
you always hope, you always hope, secretly,
that the coach is gonna look up into the stands and be like,
"Hey.
We need you to help us win this game."
I mean, that's the real reason people wear jerseys, you know?
You got to be prepared.
Well, now everyone is so short on players,
that might actually happen.
Although, knowing how quickly Omicron spreads,
it'll probably be like, "Hey, you! Come help us win!
"Just get a quick COVID test and he can come in!
"What? Oh, he's also got Omicron.
"Ah, look at you, loser.
"Yeah, you suck.
You got Omicron and you don't play basketball."
I'll tell you what I'm not looking forward to though,
is hearing what the old-timers have to say about this
at the barber shop. 'Cause you know they're gonna go in.
"Man, NBA players these days are soft.
"Patrick Ewing would never let Omicron's spike proteins
"penetrate his cellular membranes.
Shit."
But let's move on from corona to something else
that goes after your body without permission,
Andrew Cuomo.
Back when he was governor,
Cuomo took a break from getting people in nursing homes killed
to write a book about how brilliantly
he was handling the pandemic.
And that book made him very, very rich.
At least until now.
Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo
is facing new troubles this morning.
A state ethics panel ruled
that Cuomo must now repay $5.1 million
that he earned from a book
that he wrote during the COVID-19 pandemic.
That book was a memoir on the handling of the pandemic.
The panel determined Cuomo used state resources
and government staffers to help prepare that book,
even though his lawyer previously said otherwise.
The $5 million bill must be repaid by next month.
But, uh, some of those funds have already been donated
to charity and also added in a trust for his daughters.
Oh, well, I mean, if the money's in a trust fund
for your adult daughters, just keep that.
But the money to charity?
He's gonna have to give that back.
I actually feel bad for the charities though.
I mean, losing that money right before Christmas?
"I'm sorry, orphans, no presents this year
"because Governor Cuomo used the office printer.
I know. I know."
But, yes, Cuomo may have to give back
all $5 million of his book money.
Which is fine by me.
I mean, I don't understand why politicians are writing books
while they're in office in the first place.
You're just kind of flaunting
how you got distracted with a side gig.
Honestly, between being governor and writing this book,
it's a wonder that he found time
to sexually harass anyone at all.
You know, the bigger issue here for me, actually,
when I think about it
is, like, the money shouldn't go back to the government
just because he used government resources.
No, the money should go back
because he wasn't doing the thing!
If you write a book about a thing that you weren't doing,
then you shouldn't get the money for the book,
'cause it wasn't real.
If we found out that the person who wrote the Kama Sutra
was a virgin, I'd be like, "Yo. Yo, money back.
"All the money back.
"You were just-- No wonder.
"No, no one's legs goes like that.
"Just made this shit up.
"Just making-- You were just like, 'Eh, put your legs
"and then the other legs.'
I-I had a hernia because of your shit, man."
Anyway, let's move on.
For the last few months, we've been talking
about how millions of people around the country
have been quitting their dead-end jobs
to pursue their true passions.
Yeah. You might find this hard to believe,
but most peoples' dream job
is not being berated by a customer at Applebee's.
So, people are quitting to write that screenplay
or start that small business or-or whatever their dream is.
And one enterprising young woman
is making headlines for selling something
that everyone else gives away for free.
NEWSMAN: Reality star Stephanie Matto of 90 Day Fiancé
has gone viral in a TikTok where she claims
to have earned over $90,000
selling her farts in a jar for $500 each.
MATTO: Hey, guys, today I'm going to show you
a day in the life of a girl who sells her farts in a jar.
So, I like to get things rolling with some beans,
a protein muffin,
sometimes even a yogurt-- less sugar is better,
some hard-boiled eggs.
While I was wait for those farts to develop, I like to read.
I'm very smart, love to read.
And then after I'm ready to go, I go ahead
and, you know, do my work, do my job.
I don't need to show you that, guys.
But I like to add in little flower pedals.
I feel like they attach the scent and make it last longer.
And when I'm finally finished with my jar,
I like to leave a personalized note.
Hmm. The smell of success.
America truly is the greatest country in the world.
And props to this woman.
Props to her for making that money.
And, look, no,
this isn't the carbon-capture technology we were hoping for,
but I guess if everyone did it,
we could solve climate change.
Yeah. Why didn't you think of this, Greta?
Now, look, I know a lot of people will see this story
and wonder, who the hell is blowing hundreds of dollars
on a fart?
But, I mean, it's no dumber than NFTs.
People are dropping a million dollars on things
that don't even exist.
At least with a fart jar, you get to keep the jar.
So I'm not gonna judge anybody for buying one of these jars.
You are into what you're into.
What I will say I am confused about
is what you actually do with the fart jar once you have it.
Like, do you open the jar right away and just get one hit?
(sniffing)
Or do you keep it in its packaging forever,
like a collectible?
Or do you keep it for a few years
and then open it on a special occasion? Just like,
"Hey, honey, great news. I finally got that promotion.
How about we celebrate with a jar of chateau de poo?"
"It's 2021. It was a great year.
"Everyone was stuck inside.
Powerful farts."
The only thing that bothers me about this
is how expensive the farts are.
I mean, for $500?
Shit. That jar better work like a large Coke at the cinema.
Every time I bring it back, I better get a free refill.
"Do the thing, lady. Do the thing."
Yo, 'cause at $500 a fart, there's gonna be a lot of people
out there who can't afford to buy a fart of their own.
And I don't care what anybody says. That's not right.
-(gentle piano music plays) -The fact is, people,
fart inequality's a growing issue right now,
and it affects millions of people around the world.
Which is why, if you can, I'm asking you
to consider donating to the International Flatulence Fund.
Because nobody should have to deal with the shame
and embarrassment of telling their children
that there will be no farts
under the Christmas tree this year.
Thank you.
All right, let's move on to something else.
All month long, we've been looking back at 2021:
the least bad year of the last two years.
We've remembered the highs, the lows,
and those six weeks this summer that kind of felt normal.
Yeah. There was even this one day in July
I forgot to wash my hands.
Crazy, I know. Crazy.
And now that 2021 is almost over,
we wanted to take a look
at what was really on people's minds this year.
So, first, I searched deep within myself, and I...
I got no results.
So then, we asked Google--
hashtag ad--
and they gave us all the trending questions
and moments and people that the world searched for in 2021.
So, tonight, let's take a look at 2021
through the questions we asked the Internet
in our final year-in-review segment:
"The Year in Search."
♪ ♪
The first thing I want to start with is that Google also sent us
the year's trending searches about me.
Yeah. like, "How tall is Trevor Noah?"
Well, I'll tell you. My doctor says I'm five 11,
but six two is my goal height.
I'm hoping to hit it next year.
They also searched, "What accent does Trevor Noah have?"
Obviously, I'm Australian.
But ever since I got hit in the head,
I've started talking like this.
Luckily, though...
(Australian accent): I've been going to speech therapy,
and I'm slowly getting better, mate.
But what I really learned from the Year in Search
is that 2021 was a year of healing.
And everyone had a lot to heal from.
There was the coronavirus itself.
The trauma of the past two years.
Personally, I had to heal from all the muscles I pulled
from hugging people again.
It had been so long. My body wasn't used to that motion.
And part of healing was getting back into the world.
We finally got to spend time with our families again.
And as a wise philosopher once said,
(like Diesel): It's all about family.
And the reason we were able to start living our lives again
was thanks to the vaccine.
Because vaccines in America are readily available now.
But... you have to remember, when they first dropped,
everyone was trying to get them all at once.
I had to constantly refresh a website
to book an appointment at a stadium.
It was like I was trying to buy my immune system
Beyoncé tickets.
Yes, we were still dealing with the pandemic,
but as the world reopened,
we had to take on other challenges as well.
And that included taking care of our mental health.
This year, it felt that the conversation
about mental health has been destigmatized.
Thanks, in part, to people like Naomi Osaka
and Simone Biles, who spoke out about their own struggles.
They both showed how important it is
to put your mental health first.
Because if Simone Biles can take a mental health day
from the Olympics, you can cancel those "catch-up" drinks
with your friends you haven't seen in three years.
In fact, I'll let you in on a little secret.
They want to cancel, too.
Another step people took toward healing this year
was searching for a better work-life balance.
Because 2021 made people reconsider work.
Do you have to work in person?
Or can you stay remote?
Is it time to look for something new?
If you do go back,
can you pull off being a hat person from now on?
I say if the pandemic made you a Kangol guy,
live your truth.
This was just one of the ways
people tried to come back stronger.
We strived to be more resilient...
and to get our voices back.
Which, for some, was a metaphor.
But maybe for some people it was literal.
Maybe they lost their voice from COVID.
Maybe they traded it to a sea witch
in exchange for true love or, better yet,
a pair of Yeezys.
And when it came to people getting their voices back,
it was a big year.
Meghan and Harry told their story to Oprah.
Britney Spears was freed
from her family's unjust conservatorship.
She's free, people!
She can say and do whatever she wants now.
She can even see that snake again.
It's been 20 years.
And people weren't just interested
in healing their own lives this year.
They wanted to heal the nation and the world.
Whether it was Black Lives Matter,
LGBTQ rights, fighting anti-Semitism,
or stopping violence against Asian people.
Except in the movie Shang-Chi,
because that movie was dope.
And let's be honest, superhero movies need fighting.
Can't have all the characters being like:
I guess we'll just talk through our problems.
May I please have the Ten Rings?
I asked nicely.
We also spent 2021 trying to heal the planet, too,
because climate change is one thing
that definitely didn't quit its job after COVID.
And so many people did their part,
from the world leaders at the COP26 climate summit
to your aunt, who regifted you the socks you gave her
for her birthday last year.
It's not rude-- it's reducing her carbon footprint.
So that was 2021, a year of healing
and recovery, and hopefully,
it'll put us all on the right track for a great 2022.
When we come back, Dulcé Sloan takes a look
at a holiday you might have forgotten.
But first, here's a look at Google's Year in Search.
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
We all know the sights of the holiday season.
Christmas trees, menorahs,
frat guys in Santa costumes passed out in their own puke.
But you might also see one of these.
What is it?
Well, Dulcé Sloan explains
in another episode of Dul-Sayin.
'Twas the night before Kwanzaa,
and all through the house, everybody was asking,
"What is this holiday all about?"
♪ ♪
Kwanzaa: it's the holiday
your white friends think your Black friends celebrate.
But if you'd like to know more about it,
I'm happy to tell you.
Starting on December 26th,
Black families gather for seven days
to honor their African heritage
and celebrate the values of the Black community,
like unity, self-determination
and Beyoncé.
And some think Kwanzaa has ancient roots.
And it does,
if you think doing the mashed potato,
smoking menthols on a shag rug is ancient.
Because Kwanzaa was actually created in 1966
by Maulana Karenga.
He was a black nationalist leader
who changed his birth name from Ronald
because no one wants to celebrate
something invented by a guy named Ronald.
You could even be my best friend.
If your name's Ronald,
I'm not even coming to your birthday party.
After seeing the 1965 riots in L.A.,
Karenga wanted a way for African Americans
to honor their African roots
and reaffirm their cultural connections.
So he created Kwanzaa,
naming the holiday after the Swahili phrase
"matunda ya kwanza," which means "first fruit,"
and then adding an extra "A."
Reminds me of when I copied someone's homework
but changed it a little bit
so the teacher didn't know I cheated.
Karenga studied a variety of African tribes,
pulled from their traditions
and added a thing about candles
because candles were on sale at Bed Bath & Beyond.
Each night of Kwanzaa, a candle is lit
that represents a different principle.
Unity.
Self-determination.
Mm. Mm.
Ooh! (exhales)
Hey, man, I don't know these words.
I'm trying, all right?
Collective work and responsibility.
Cooperative economics.
Purpose.
Creativity.
Faith.
On Imani, the seventh night,
people exchange gifts,
and the gifts are often handmade.
Why? Because Kwanzaa is meant to stand against
the commercialism of Christmas.
And because handmade gifts are much harder to regift.
At first, Kwanzaa had a hard time catching on,
in part because there's a lot of holiday competition
during this time of year--
Christmas, Hanukkah,
the Lexus December to Remember Sales Event.
Also because seven days is a lot of time to spend with family.
Even Jesus could only take three days in heaven with his dad
before he came back to Earth 'cause he needed a break.
It also didn't help that Karenga himself wasn't the best dude.
He spent some time in prison for abusing women.
If Santa went to prison for smacking around Mrs. Claus
and then tried to come down my chimney,
Rudolph wouldn't be the only one with a red nose.
Kwanzaa didn't pick up steam until the late '70s,
when the Black middle class began to grow
and suburban Black parents wanted to connect their children
to their heritage.
And, of course, where there's Black people with money,
there's companies pretending to care about Black culture.
So like every other major holiday,
soon Kwanzaa became commercialized.
(mimics air horn)
The dream! Ha-ha!
Beer advertisements, Power Rangers,
cell phone commercials, Sesame Street,
even white ladies on the Food Network making Kwanzaa cakes.
Ugh! At least I think that's a cake.
That looks like something you make
when you're drunk at 4:00 a.m.
Point is, Kwanzaa had arrived.
30 years after its first celebration,
10 million Americans were celebrating Kwanzaa.
Even the U.S. government acknowledged it.
Bill Clinton made the first presidential declaration
marking the holiday, although I bet
he was just trying to get another invite to Arsenio.
And the U.S. Postal Service even commissioned a Kwanzaa stamp.
Check it out.
It's the closest thing we're going to get to reparations.
But Kwanzaa's moment in the sun didn't last long.
After the '90s, interest in the holiday declined.
And now only four percent of Americans celebrate it,
which to me just reflects the changing of the times.
Younger Black people don't feel the need to have a holiday
to affirm their blackness
when Black culture is way more visible
and easy to engage with nowadays.
There's Black Twitter, Black Panther,
slicked-down baby hairs.
And honestly, Kwanzaa is a complicated holiday.
It's got a problematic beginning,
and can sometimes come off as African cosplay.
But on the other hand, it brings families together,
centers the Black experience,
and it's an excuse to have some good food.
Ugh. Not you.
But maybe the best part of Kwanzaa is,
whether you celebrate it or not, you can pretend to celebrate it
so my white friends will buy me gifts. Ha, ha!
Habari gani, y'all.
Siri, what does "Habari gani" mean?
Oh, she a white lady. She don't know.
♪ ♪
Thank you so much, Dulcé.
All right, when we come back, the star of the new show
Anne Boleyn, Jodie Turner-Smith,
will be joining me in the studio, so don't go away.
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
My guest tonight is actor Jodie Turner-Smith.
She's here to talk about portraying Anne Boleyn
in the new miniseries that chronicles her final days.
How is your daughter enjoying married life, Uncle?
Very well.
To be married to the king's son is an honor,
even if he is a little timid.
-It is. -One which I encouraged,
-if you remember. -I do.
I hear the marriage has not yet been consummated.
Unconsummated marriages are precarious, as you know.
I would hate for anyone to try and separate them.
-Whoa. Jodie Turner-Smith. -(laughing)
Welcome to the show.
-How you doing? -I'm wonderful.
Um, you're-you're much friendlier
than-than you appear in the show.
Um, but welcome to it.
It's good to have you here. Like many people,
I became a fan of yours because of Queen & Slim,
and here you are now playing another queen--
Your Majesty--
uh, but a very different kind of queen.
Let's talk a little bit about, uh,
about the journey that you've been on.
What's it been like?
It's so funny. Everyone always says, like,
-"ten-year overnight success." (chuckles) -Right. Right.
Right? 'Cause you're there, like, working away,
and nobody sees it.
And then they see you, and then suddenly it's like,
"Oh, you were here, and it happened so quickly."
-For them it's overnight. Yeah. -Yeah.
But even once it happened, it happened...
I mean, I was so blessed to get that movie.
I mean, Queen & Slim changed my life.
So, I just try to work really hard
and-and hope to learn something from everybody that I'm with,
because I understand that I have so much to learn,
and I'm just growing, and it just feels
like the world is my oyster, and that feels really nice.
It really is. It really is
because of, like, everything that you're doing.
Like, you inspire people in your personal life
just, like, by being you.
You know, for those who are fans of Dawson's Creek,
-they know who your husband is. -TURNER-SMITH: (laughs) Yes.
And, you know, congratulations. You have a five-month-old?
-Yes? -No, she's 20 months old now.
-Wait, she's 20 months old? -(laughs) Yeah.
When-- Why did I think it was five months?
Because-- So I did Anne Boleyn when she was five months.
-That's why. -That's when I went back.
So that's what's sticking in your head.
-Ah, that's what it is. -But she's 20 months.
I mean, look, just the way that you're like, "What?"
(chuckles) I feel the same way. I'm just, like, so shocked
-that she's that age. -So if you were--
If your-- if your daughter was five months old
when you were-- when you were taping this now,
this-this is a very,
like, painful story.
You know, for those who aren't familiar with Anne Boleyn,
you-you have this monarch who, in many ways,
was defined by her lack of ability to-to birth a male heir.
And-and, you know, in the series,
we see her struggling with miscarriages.
We see her struggling with, you know--
with giving birth to a stillborn.
Like, it's-it's a really painful journey to be on.
Do you think that you being a new mom
helped you bring, like, a different understanding
to the role that you were playing?
I mean, definitely. I mean...
Certain nuances that I think I definitely took in to...
-Anne Boleyn, because... -Uh-huh.
I mean, I just-- It's just so specific
to-to that knowledge that suddenly you get tapped into
when you have that.
And then, obviously, as an artist, uh, as an actor,
you then imagine further to a place that you never existed in,
which is, like, so many of the situations
that Anne was in, you know,
and think about, like,
what does the-the experience that I've been through,
like, what does that add to what I think this story means or is
or any sort of truth that I'm trying to get to
when I, you know, give a performance.
I love that the clip you guys chose for the show
-was, like, one of the really bitchy scenes. -(laughs)
Well-well, you know what, okay,
maybe-maybe that's-that's something
that we should talk about then, is, like, Anne Boleyn
and-and, I think, many other, you know,
famous women in history,
especially in, like-- in royal terms,
have always been defied as one thing--
-defined as one thing or the other. -Yeah.
They go like, "You're the Madonna. You're the whore."
-You know? You-You're... -Yeah. Women in general.
-Right. -Whether they're famous, it's just like-- It's-- Yeah.
And so you-you have this character
where you-you got to portray her in a way
that I think a lot of us have never seen her.
On the one hand, she can be this queen.
On the other hand, she can be at the mercy of a king.
When you're playing a character like that
and when you're thinking of her as a woman and as a human being,
what do you think a lot of people didn't know
about Anne Boleyn that maybe you even learned about
when playing the character?
I mean, you know, one of the most interesting things
to me about her was that...
Cause we-we feel like we know so much about her.
-We've seen her played so many times. -Yes.
And, like, she's endlessly fascinating.
And the reality is, is we don't actually have a record
of her in her own words. You know, like, everything...
-Like at all? Wow. -Like, literally,
except for, like, you know, this little...
that little inscription that she wrote in her book of hours,
you know, that said, "The time will come. I, Anne Boleyn."
There's no letters from her to Henry, there's no diaries.
There's no... there's no, like, record
of really what she was thinking and feeling.
-Damn. -You know, so everything is speculation,
which I think is so fascinating, ultimately.
Because it's just, like, we've never,
when telling her story, sort of focused
on how her past would have influenced
-the woman that she was. -Mm.
You know, I mean, she was, in her girlhood,
-around powerful women, queens. -Mm-hmm.
-Mm-hmm. -You know, in the French court
rubbing elbows with, like, the most important thinkers
of the time, philosophers, artists.
Like, of course she would be inspired by that
and feel like she had this greatness
that she wanted to bring back to England...
-I love that. -...and, like, infuse into everything
-that she was doing. -I love that.
When you... when you played the character, I mean,
you've gotten great reviews for your portrayal of Anne Boleyn.
What was sad to see was, you know, people who were angry--
like, really racist, I mean, is the best way to put it.
They were just like, "Wha...? How-how can you?
You should never be playing Anne Boleyn. You're Black!"
And it's... I was surprised that this was happening,
especially in the U.K. because, I mean,
like, let's say Shakespeare. Everybody's played Shakespeare
in every way, shape or form.
Sometimes even, like, the genders have shifted,
-etcetera. -Yeah.
Um, you know, with Hamilton,
that really switched up everyone's ideas
of how you could cast.
But-but you seemed like you took that in your stride.
Were you shaken up by that,
or did you have a different perspective
on like, "No, I'm playing Anne Boleyn,
"and yes, no other Black person has ever played her,
-but I am and I can"? -I mean, of course
I was shaken up by it, because I care.
-Hmm. -So as much as, you know, you try to separate yourself
from the things that are toxic
and the things that don't really serve you in your artistry,
like, I mean, I care, and I'm a caring and feeling person,
so, you know, definitely it's something where it's, like,
when people have a strong reaction, they...
and, you know, they're not afraid to...
-Oh, yeah, no, no. -let you know.
People are very strong on the Internet.
-Very, very strong, I'll tell you that. -You know,
they will come to find you,
to let you know exactly how they feel.
Um, so yeah, and, I mean, it's intense.
But the hope is that... There are some people
who it makes uncomfortable who will watch it anyway,
and watch it for the human story
that we were trying to tell,
and see what resonates differently for them
because they're just looking at it,
they're looking at it out of the frame of reference of race,
and more just about, like, this is a human woman,
and... and we all share these experiences in life.
I mean, as human beings, there is no divide between emotion.
You know, we've all experienced hurt and far
and loss and pain and ambition and desire and love,
and so it's like, it's really just trying
to tell a story about that, and...
Just to say, like, we knew that Anne Boleyn was not a...
-a Black woman. -(laughing)
Uh, we were not trying to say that she was.
I just want to, just to say.
You didn't discover this on the first...
-Was white? -Yeah. I know Anne Boleyn was not Black.
-Oh, man. -You heard it here first.
Oh, Jodie, this has been so much fun having you.
Um, congratulations on everything.
Um, like I say, your journey's just beginning.
Thank you for allowing us to be part of that.
And, uh, congratulations on a fantastic portrayal.
-Thank you. And thank you for having me. -Always.
All right, Anne Boleyn is available
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We're gonna take a quick break,
but we'll be right back after this.
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Now, here it is, Your Moment of Zen.
We've always thought of our heroes
as having to do with death and war,
and, you know, when we think of Joseph Campbell
and the whole idea of the heroic journey,
it's rarely a journey that's about love--
it's about, you know, deeds that have to do with conquering,
domination, what have you.
And so part of what I wanted to say to people
is that living as we do in a culture of domination,
to truly choose to love is heroic.
To work at love, to really let yourself,
you know, understand the art of loving.