Does anyone... does anyone celebrate Elon Musk here?
Anyone?
Uh, I don't know if you saw this.
It was, like, a really interesting moment
of, like, just Internet Twitter beef.
Bernie Sanders put out a tweet,
and he basically was, like, you know, the usual thing.
Billionaires need to pay their fair share of taxes,
blah, blah, blah, they're not paying enough, whatever.
And then Elon Musk jumped on, and he was like, "Oh, you.
I, uh... I didn't know you were still alive."
And people are, like, pissed off 'cause now it's Bernie bros
versus Elon bros, and, like, that's...
You know what I mean?
That's the Internet essentially.
It's like a Reddit royal rumble now.
Like, good luck posting your wedding pictures
when this shit is happening.
It's like gangs in the streets, but on the tweets.
That's what's happening now.
You're like, uh, "I love you, my wife."
They're like, "Shut up! Elon's right about this thing!"
"And Bernie... You don't talk to Bernie like that!"
Everyone's mad, losing their shit.
One thing I will say about Elon Musk is, like,
Elon Musk is everything
I thought a billionaire was as a child.
You know when I'd watch TV... like, TV shows as a kid,
I always was like, "Why do you want to be a billionaire?"
I'd be like, "Yeah, so I could just
tell everybody shit all the time."
You want to be like Scrooge McDuck.
And then you grow up, and then billionaires are like...
They're always talking about business and doing boring...
Like Jeff Bezos.
The guy has all the money of the world,
and then still, he's like... You know, if you'd be like,
"Hey, what's happening at your factory?"
He's like, "Ah, we're going to try to figure things out."
And you're like, "Well, Jeff,
this is not like billionaire swag."
You know? He works out.
Why do you work out? Why do...?
Guys, you don't need muscles if you have billions of dollars.
Muscles are for lifting things.
If you have a billion dollars, you do not lift anything.
Do you know what I mean?
I would pay somebody at the gym.
"You do another rep.
No, no, no I still feel... Do another one."
And then you'd be like, "Yeah, but Trevor,
then you're gonna gain weight, you're gonna be unhealth..."
I'll pay people to tell me that I'm healthy. I'll pay them.
And then you'll be like, "But you might die."
"Then I'll pay people to bring me back from the dead.
"I'm a billionaire.
"I'll buy your body, bitch.
I'll just buy somebody else's body."
Come back next week, I'll be like, "Hey."
You're like, "Who are you?" "I'm Trevor.
"Yeah, I bought your dad's body. What now?"
When I become a billionaire, Matt, oh, man.
First thing that's going out of my life--
greetings and goodbyes.
Waste of my time as a human being.
When I get a billion,
you guys forget me saying "hello" or "goodbye."
Wasting my time. You know I'm coming back.
You know you're seeing me for the first time. "Hello."
Why do I have to announce my arrival to you? "Hello."
What a useless thing. These are things for peasants.
When I get a billion-- you guys don't even understand--
no more "hellos." It's over.
I'm just gonna walk up to you.
You're just gonna see me.
You're just gonna have to be like, "He's here now."
And then, when I leave, I'm just gonna go.
We'll be talking. "Yeah, the thing. You see the game? 27!"
Then I'm just gonna walk away.
ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from the heart of Times Square,
in New York City, the only city in America, it's
The Daily Show.
Tonight-- COVID is costing us,
the best way to avoid the ICU,
and Chris Christie.
This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
Hey! What's going on, everybody?
Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah.
Joining me for today's headlines
is the one and only Roy Wood, Jr.!
-What's up, man? -Yeah, Roy Wood.
-I'm back, man. -We love your comedy special
-on Comedy Central and Paramount+. -(cheering)
Roy, we love you!
-What's going on, man? -Yeah, I'm good, man.
-Yo, I saw Questlove over the weekend at this thing. -Uh-huh.
And he's really inspired me to try and figure out
this whole sidekick... this sidekick shit, man.
I mean, you should let me play an instrument.
No, no, but you're not like a sidekick.
There's a difference. It's like,
you're just keeping me company because we're here,
and we don't have an audience yet. You know what I mean?
Am I over there, or am I on the side?
Where am I right now, physically in relation to you?
-You're on the side. Yeah. -I'm on the side?
And am I kicking it?
-You are indeed. -Okay.
So then, that's what... that's what it is.
It's just let me play an instrument or something.
I got... I played the flute for two weeks in the sixth grade.
-That won't work. -I can't even audition
-to be in the band? -No, I think a flute...
A flute is the worst thing you can play
when somebody tells a joke.
Okay, tell a joke right now.
-You tell a joke. You... -(sighs)
All right, I'll... Knock, knock.
-Who's there? -Amos.
-Amos who? -A mosquito.
(hums tune like flute)
-(laughter) -You're right. You're right.
All right, let's jump straight into today's headlines.
♪ ♪
We kick things off with the ongoing investigation
into the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol building,
also known as the most successful
Facebook Meetup of all time.
Right now, a congressional committee is trying
to determine if President Trump and his allies were involved
in the violent attempt to overturn the election.
And one of the people they most want to hear from
is Steve Bannon, former Trump advisor
and the only person who should maybe try horse de-wormer.
I mean, it couldn't hurt.
But like any innocent person, Trump has told all of his people
not to cooperate with law enforcement at all.
So Bannon defied a congressional subpoena to testify,
and this morning he turned himself in,
arriving at an FBI office,
looking like he'd already served ten years in prison.
But if all of this activity has Donald Trump worried,
he's not showing it.
In fact, when asked whether he had tried to pressure Mike Pence
into overturning the election on January 6,
well, Trump basically admitted it
in the most Trumpy way possible.
NEWMAN: It had been reported back in January
by The New York Times that Trump even pressured Pence
on the morning of January 6 with a crude phone call.
When I interviewed Trump for Betrayal,
I asked him about that.
"I wouldn't dispute it"? Wow. Wow, Trump is gangsta.
Why would I dispute it? The guy's a total pussy.
Why would I dispute it?
You know what I love about Trump is that,
even if he didn't say that, he's the type of guy
who would pretend he said it just because it sounded cool.
Yeah, that's a good line. I totally said it. I said it.
Patriot or pussy. I love it.
I also love how the reporter says,
"Excuse my language, excuse my language, sir,"
as if Donald Trump is going to be offended.
My man, it's Donald Trump. If anything, he'd be like,
"Pussy, my favorite topic.
Thank you for bringing this up. Let's talk about it."
And by the way, can we... can we also acknowledge
that "don't be a pussy" is the thing people only go to in life
when they don't have any other arguments. You know?
It's the last option when you have nothing real
to convince someone with.
And yeah, it usually works,
because no one wants to be a pussy.
I mean, that's probably how cliff jumping started.
(echoing): I'm not a pussy!
But sometimes it's good to be a pussy.
Oftentimes history is made by pussies.
I mean, Gandhi, total pussy.
Yeah. Britain was like,
"Are you going to fight us or are you a pussy?"
And Gandhi said, "I am a pussy.
"You must be the pussy you wish to see in the world.
That is what we need more of."
(laughs) You know what's messed up, man?
I kind of, in a way I feel bad for Mike Pence, man.
'Cause he was, like, living that Christian life
-and being all righteous. -He was.
And then, like, the last four or five years,
fumbled it, he going to hell.
-(laughing) -Like, you know how messed it is
to just do everything perfect,
and then just in the ninth inning,
"Oh, I'm going to Hell!"
Didn't do nothing wrong his whole life.
He missed all his good jackoff years.
All the good jackoff years.
Your jackoff years is from 14 to about 45, 46,
and he didn't do nothing, just a pure man.
Then he started hanging with Trump, now you go to Hell.
Nothing to do with patriot or pussy.
Just messed up.
I feel bad for Mike Pence, man. He gonna be all right.
All right, let's move on to our top story.
Right now inflation is the one thing people hate
even more than Jake Gyllenhaal.
It seems like everything is more expensive these days.
Groceries are more expensive.
Cars are more expensive.
Ty Dolla Sign is now Ty Dolla Fifty.
I can't afford that shit anymore.
But there's one price that people notice
more than anything, and that's the price of gas.
More pain at the pump for drivers
as we head into the busy holiday travel season.
Gas prices keep going only one direction: up.
Gas prices rising over six percent over the last month,
up nearly 50% over the last year.
Gas prices are at their highest levels in seven years.
According to AAA, we're looking at $3.42 a gallon
on average right now.
NEWSMAN: Americans are spending $430 million more
every day on gasoline than just one year ago today.
Every time I fill up, it's close to, like, $80, $90.
It's, like, uh... do you want to eat steak
or do you want to fill up your tank?
Yeah. That's a tough choice.
Do you want to eat steak,
or do you want to pour gas in your car?
I mean, I do have to say, you don't have to choose.
Yeah, you just fill up your car and then drive it into a cow.
Boom! Then you get both.
No, but for real, though, this is a big problem.
High gas prices affect so many aspect of life,
like, from getting to work to childcare
to, you know, all your friends who bike
becoming even more smug about it.
But the question is
why are gas prices going up so much?
Well, like everything in our life right now,
it has a lot to do with the pandemic.
So, let's talk about why this is happening
and what Joe Biden can do about it
in another installment of Getting Back to Normal-ish.
♪ ♪
Think back for a moment to spring of 2020.
Much of the world had ground to a halt,
which meant that people weren't driving.
They weren't visiting friends or going into the office
or hanging out of the passenger side
of their best friend's ride, trying to holler at me.
If you left your home at all,
it was probably to take a sad walk around the block.
I mean, at least until you heard someone cough down the street,
and then you ran your ass back inside.
Now, because of all of that,
that meant that America's oil industry,
which had been producing more than any country in the world,
basically shut down.
And even though society has ramped back up again,
the oil industry hasn't.
NEWSMAN: Early in the pandemic, demand for gasoline
dropped dramatically as workers were told to stay home.
NEWSWOMAN: That immediately walloped
the oil and gas industry like nothing ever in its history
has ever hit them before.
At one point early on in the coronavirus crisis,
the price of a barrel of oil,
it cost less than zero dollars.
NEWSMAN 2: When prices dropped abruptly
with the pandemic shutdown, U.S. shale producers
dramatically slowed the drilling of new wells.
Rigs were taken out of service,
and oil production in the U.S. dropped off significantly.
They shut down production.
They laid off tens of thousands of workers
to try and stay alive during the pandemic.
Just like everything else in our lives,
the oil production has been impacted by COVID.
It can't just flick a switch at a refinery and operations
and have everything back to normal.
Yeah. One of the reasons gas prices are so high
is because America is making less gas
than it did before the pandemic.
Because people may be driving again,
but that doesn't mean that it's easy for gas producers
to just instantly produce as much as they were before.
You got to grow a whole new dinosaur
and smoosh it until the oil comes out.
That takes time.
And it makes sense that it's gonna take them time to adjust.
I mean, it's been hard for all of us, right?
Every single one of us. It's been hard for us
to get back to normal life after the pandemic.
Do you remember the first time
you had to make small talk at the office?
Nobody knew what we were doing.
"Welcome to the elevator.
Do you remember weather? Yeah?"
"I do. Not."
-"My wife is leaving me." -(elevator bell chimes)
"This is not my floor, but I'm getting out."
Now, if America isn't making enough oil
to keep up with demand, then why doesn't it
just buy more from the rest of the world?
Well, it could, but it turns out
the people who control the oil in the rest of the world,
well, they just don't feel like sharing.
Gas prices really not being driven up
by the demand on the horizon.
It's really more about the supply.
Oil-producing nations are actually constricting
the supply a little bit
because they're trying to recoup their pandemic losses.
There's a cartel that controls
the price of oil internationally,
and that cartel is called OPEC.
NEWSWOMAN: OPEC, the biggest oil-producing nations,
aren't increasing the amount of oil
they release into the global economy,
so as demand rebounds in the U.S.,
Americans are paying about $16 more
to fill up their tanks than a year ago.
NEWSMAN: President Biden recently appealed
to OPEC and Russia to boost production
but received a flat no.
Wow. They received a flat no.
I mean, to be fair,
every "no" coming out of a Russian is a flat no.
Have you ever talked to a Russian person?
They're never afraid of a flat no.
"Hey, are you having a-a good day?" "No."
(chuckles) "Well, there's... there's always tomorrow, right?"
"No."
And, look, you can understand OPEC's position.
I mean, how much longer is oil gonna be around?
Right? They need to make money on this shit now
before we're all driving Elon Musk's cars
that curse out Bernie Sanders when you honk the horn.
And, by the way, you also know what this means, right?
You realize that this is the first time
America could openly go to war for oil.
Because usually when America goes into the Middle East,
it's always like, "This isn't about oil.
My son is going over there to fight for freedom."
But if prices go any higher, now Americans can just be like,
"Kevin, you get your butt in that fighter jet
"because your dad is not paying six dollars a gallon!
That's my steak money!"
Now, the good news is
America is not going to war yet.
But asking OPEC nicely also didn't work.
So the big question is,
what can be done to lower gas prices?
Well, the bad news for President Biden is: not much.
The Biden administration is scrambling for solutions
to one of his biggest, biggest political liabilities,
soaring gas prices.
NEWSWOMAN: Like presidents who came before him,
Joe Biden has few options
when it comes to combating high fuel prices.
Nearly a dozen Senate Democrats are calling on Biden
to consider all the tools available at your disposal,
even the extreme step of banning American oil exports,
which Goldman Sachs warned would be counterproductive
and could actually raise prices.
The president also considering
tapping the Strategic Petroleum Reserve,
though industry experts have warned
that would do little to alleviate the problem.
NEWSMAN: If you ask the energy industry, they would say,
"Well, the White House could cut environmental regulation,
and maybe that would help."
And it could, maybe for next winter,
but that would take some time.
President Biden does not have a magic wand
to dramatically lower gas prices.
And if he did, judging upon his sinking poll numbers,
-he would use that magic wand. -Mm-hmm.
I don't know about that.
I mean, I feel like even if Joe Biden did have a magic wand,
he'd still need to recite a spell.
And based on what we've all seen,
I do not have confidence that he'd be able to get it right.
"Uh, al-alakazam. Abra-abraca--
"Abdul-Jabbar.
"Uh, one-one of the great Negro--
"You-you know the thing. You know the thing.
Did it work?"
What's tough for Biden is that it doesn't matter
what else he does.
If the price of gas stays high, that's that.
He could sign all the infrastructure bills he wants.
He could get everyone to agree on abortion.
But all people care about is
how much is the black goo from the ground.
Higher than before?
Then get the (bleep) out of here.
So it's not exaggerating to say that his whole presidency,
his entire presidency,
could depend on whether gas prices stay up or go down.
And based on this new PSA
the Biden administration just put out...
(sucks air through teeth) they're willing to try anything.
♪ ♪
ANNOUNCER: All across this great nation,
Americans are feeling pain at the pump.
But help is on the way.
We at the Biden administration know you want nothing more
than for gas prices to go back to where they were last year,
which is why we're laser-focused
on the one method guaranteed to make that happen,
creating a new pandemic.
As we speak,
our world-class scientists are working hard
to develop the next big viral strain.
They're experimenting with expired wombat meat,
-iguana sneeze droplets -(sneezes)
and whatever they can scrape off the New York City Subway.
We're throwing all of it into a big ole blender
and feeding it to a sick hippo.
Trust me, if COVID-22 is out there somewhere,
we're gonna find it.
We're not stopping until gas prices
are the least of your problems once again.
That's the Biden promise.
(sneezes)
Guys, is this something?
All right, when we come back,
COVID is still filling up the ICUs.
But don't worry-- we've got a solution.
So don't go away.
Today kicks off Infrastructure Week at the White House.
It's Infrastructure Week for the White House,
but that may have gotten lost in the shuffle
with President Trump rekindling controversy
on the violence in Virginia yesterday.
This is at least the third time
they've tried to roll out Infrastructure Week.
NEWSWOMAN: He's there in Ohio
to give a speech about infrastructure.
It is indeed Infrastructure Week this week, folks.
You may not have known this,
but this is Infrastructure Week in America.
It is Infrastructure Week yet again.
He's gonna meet with Nancy Pelosi apparently next week
to talk about Infrastructure Week,
which may be coming back.
So this is supposed to be the Friday
of-of Infrastructure Week.
NEWSWOMAN 2: He is also not visiting the CDC headquarters.
He is trying to make it Infrastructure Week once again.
MAN: Where is the infrastructure plan?
Well, it's happening and it's going to happen
and we've done a lot of infrastructure.
♪ ♪
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
The holidays are coming here in America,
which means two things--
turkeys are saying goodbye to their loved ones,
and COVID cases might shoot up again.
Which would be bad news
because some parts of America are struggling
to keep up with the 'rona right now.
NEWSWOMAN: This morning, nearly half the country
seeing new COVID cases soaring.
21 states reporting a surge in infections,
and rising hospitalizations in 17 states and territories.
Some rural communities with low vaccination rates
and limited resources, like Cañon City, Colorado,
being hit especially hard.
93% of the state's ICU beds are currently full,
the most they've seen in nearly a year.
Yeah, Colorado's ICU beds are packed.
And I mean Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory packed.
Which, by the way, what was happening in that movie?
Like, I remember watching that as a kid, and I was...
I was thinking like, "Why are all those old people
in the same bed together all day?"
Like, I get at night, if you're poor,
but then, like, the whole day?
I was like, "Are they banging each other?
Is this what this movie's about?"
But anyway, the big worry is,
what if your hospital has no ICU beds available,
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Well, your life could be in danger,
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Exit 120 by the fairgrounds. Next to Foot Locker.
Now, that's a deal. All right, when we come back,
former Governor Chris Christie will be joining me
right here in the studio. You don't want to miss it.
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
My guest tonight is the former governor of New Jersey,
Chris Christie.
He's here to discuss his new book
and why he thinks the Republican Party
needs to be rescued.
Chris Christie, welcome to The Daily Show.
Trevor, happy to be back.
Um, before we start the interview,
I want to know, what type of interview are we having?
Are we having, like, a legit conversation,
or are you gonna... are you gonna politician me?
-Oh. -I only ask you this 'cause you're the one person
who will tell me the truth about whether you will or won't.
-We'll go totally legit. -Okay. We'll do legit.
-Like we did the last time. We'll go legit. -Let's do it.
-Yeah. -Let's do it. Um, I love the title of your book.
Chris Christie. Republican Rescue:
Saving the Party from Truth Deniers,
Conspiracy Theorists,
and the Dangerous Policies of Joe Biden.
It seems like the Republicans need to be rescued
-from a lot of things. -Yeah. They do.
And-and, look, the biggest thing we need to be rescued from
or to is the truth.
You know, if we don't become
the party of telling the truth again,
we got no hope for anybody to trust us to do anything.
And when we get all these conspiracy theories
and truth deniers, it's just not gonna work.
And, so, what I try to do in the book
is to go through, like, QAnon
and PizzaGate and birtherism
and election stuff and say, "Here are the real facts.
"And I hope after you read them, you'll come to the conclusion
"there's no truth to any of this stuff
"and we need to focus on the important things
that are going on in the country right now."
But surely you realize
you are up against a monumental, like, issue here
because a lot of the Republican Party
believes many of these things.
Yeah, well, that's what leadership's all about, right?
I mean, i-in the end, if you want to try to lead--
which is what I'm trying to do,
is to help to lead the party in another direction--
then it's... it involves some risk.
Like, if it were easy,
you wouldn't be at the front of the parade.
You'd be in the middle of the parade.
Right? So, I'm taking a chance here, I guess,
but, to me, it's a chance
on the best thing to take a chance on,
which is the truth.
And you are not afraid of the-the Donald Trump element?
-I'm... -I mean, because... 'cause you're not just...
You're not just talking to Republican people here.
You're talking to Republicans,
but you know one of your audience members
is Donald J. Trump,
-who believes some of the things that are in this book. -Sure.
Sure. And, look, I've known him for 20 years.
-NOAH: Yeah. -CHRISTIE: Unlike most people
who know him of recent vintage,
I've known him personally for 20 years.
And no, like, I'm not afraid of telling him the truth.
I've never been afraid of telling him the truth.
Um, all the time that I did things with him,
uh, ran against him
and then helped to advise him, prepare him for debates,
I was the guy he always brought in
-to give him a hard time. -Uh-huh.
And, so, the book follows in that pattern.
So, let's talk about the relationship you have with Trump
and then the relationship that the Republican Party
has with Donald Trump.
For many years, it was the party, right?
Which is what many would argue good politics is.
It's about the party, and it's about people
who vote for the party.
Now it has become about Trump.
People say, "I'm a Trumper.
I vote for Donald Trump."
The Republican Party comes second to that.
That means one man can determine the vision
and the mission that doesn't necessarily coincide
with conservativism, whatever that may be in this day and age.
So when-when you...
You have a relationship with Donald Trump, right?
You guys talk. You haven't talked in a while now,
-from what I understand. -Mm-hmm. True.
But-but you guys... but you guys talk.
Do you see a world where, A: he doesn't...
doesn't run for president, and then B:
a world where you can convince him
to not make the next election about this?
'Cause you know he's going to do that.
Well, look, I think a few things. First off,
there's a really interesting new poll today out of Iowa.
Uh, Iowa Republicans being polled
-by The Des Moines Register. -Mm-hmm.
And they're-they're amongst
the most conservative Republicans in America.
Um, they asked, "Where is your loyalty the most?
-To the Republican Party, or to Donald Trump?" -Yeah.
-62% said the Republican Party. -Wow.
26% said Donald Trump, in Iowa.
So I think things are changing, Trevor.
I think as he's no longer on Twitter...
He's only been out of office for less than ten months.
-Mm-hmm. -And he dominated all the political oxygen
-in this country for five years. -Right.
Right? So, we're an instant gratification society.
People expect things, you know, to happen like that.
-They don't sometimes. -Mm-hmm.
And so, as the emotion drains out of this
and you leave the facts, I think people are going to say
a Republican Party that's built on many foundations...
-Mm-hmm. -...is much more valuable
than one that's built on one.
And by the way, the president...
the former president can be part of that
if he wants to start talking about tomorrow
and stop talking about yesterday.
So, that's what we should be thinking about is,
how do we get to the next step?
And I think that that Iowa poll starts to tell us.
It's not there yet.
But starts to tell us that people are starting to...
Like, the emotions ran out and say,
"All right, so what are our options?"
Is this book your way
of putting yourself forward as an option?
Is this... is this you planting the seeds
for you running in the next election?
No, this is me planting the seeds
for... somebody.
'Cause lots of people whisper this stuff to me.
-Uh-huh. -Someone has to say it out loud.
Someone's got to be willing to come forward and say,
-"Here are the... here's the truth." -Uh-huh.
"And here's the path forward."
-It doesn't mean I won't run in '24. -Okay. Okay.
But, you know, I'll... I certainly will think about it.
-Would you... would you run if Trump runs? -Sure.
-Oh. So, you'll run against Donald Trump? -Sure.
Where's a camera? Put this camera on Chris Christie's face.
-You'll run against Donald Trump? -Yes.
Okay. We'll... We're gonna keep that tape.
-Keep that baby. And then let me tell you why... -(laughs)
You don't feel pressure to not run against him?
-No. -'Cause, I mean, we've heard many Republicans say,
"I would run. If Donald Trump doesn't run, I'd run."
The only one I... who I know
openly hasn't said this is Ron DeSantis.
And it seems interesting there where he's going like,
"I'm not saying anything."
And people believe that he could be a major contender.
So you're not... You would run against Donald Trump?
I would if I decide I want to run for president.
And listen, I think anybody, Trevor...
If you believe that you're the best person
-to be president of the United States... -Mm-hmm.
-...why does it matter who else runs? Right? -Okay.
To me, it's almost disqualifying to say,
"I'll defer to somebody else."
Let's say Trump runs again,
and let's say he wins the nomination.
Are you going to support him when he goes to be president?
Look, if he doesn't stop talking about this election
-as being stolen... -Uh-huh.
...then I can't support anybody who winds up saying
that our democracy didn't work.
So apart from that, you would support him, then?
No, I'm not going to get into every issue.
-There's some things I would agree on. -Okay.
Some things I wouldn't, but, to me,
this continued obsession, wrongly,
in an untrue way, that the election was stolen
is just... is just something that...
Well, it's fundamentally eroding the country, right?
I can't be supportive.
Unless there's something you can prove in court
that went wrong, and he tried and he couldn't, 60-plus times.
-Right. -Right?
Then you've got to be a grown-up about it
and say the other guy won.
Like, look, Al Gore in 2000 fought it hard,
all the way to the United States Supreme Court, but when he lost,
he looked in the camera and he said,
"George W. Bush is the president and I'm conceding."
It's the peaceful transition of power
that has defined America's democracy for that long.
And that's what he didn't do, what Donald Trump didn't do.
-Yeah. -And that's why I got so angry about it.
The last part of this book is what I find interesting.
"Saving the Republican Party,
also, from the dangerous policies of Joe Biden."
-Right. -Now, you argue in the book
that the problem with Joe Biden is that he ran as a unifier,
and you say that he hasn't done that.
-What do you mean by that? -Well, what I mean is
that he ran not only as a unifier
but as a moderate, right?
Remember, he was the guy in the primaries
that Kamala Harris and Cory Booker
and Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren were all saying
-wasn't liberal enough. He was too moderate. -Right. Mm-hmm.
Now, all of a sudden, his policies are way left.
Well, but is it all of a sudden though?
-Yeah. -If you remember, he did say at some point,
"If I win, we are going to put forward
"some of the most progressive policies
-this country's ever seen." He did say that. -(stammers)
But-but he didn't campaign--
The theme of his campaign was not that.
He was gonna bring the country back together.
You can't unify the country by going way left or way right,
because most of the country is not way left or way right.
But what we can't deny
is that a guy who was elected president
-with over 300 electoral votes... -Yeah.
...just, you know, a year ago
is now in a situation where his approval ratings
-are in the low 40s... -Mm-hmm.
...upside down 12 or 15 points, depending on the polls,
and it doesn't seem to be getting better anytime soon.
And the real question is,
Joe Biden at 78 years old,
does he have the political skills any longer
-to dig out of that hole? -Mm-hmm.
And I think that's what we're gonna have to wait and see.
I don't know. I'm skeptical about it.
And I think he'd have been much better off
he had been the Joe Biden that he had been
all the years he was in the Senate
and tried to bring the country together that way
rather than try to be FDR.
Do you think there was a Senate to bring together though?
'Cause this is the thing. This is the issue I have,
-just as a-- as an observer of this thing. -Yeah.
Mitch McConnell would always say, like, "Well, we got to do
-this thing together. We got to do it together." -(laughs)
And then what happens when the time comes?
He-he blocks people.
He-- Like, Mitch is-is a genius
-when it comes to knowing how to, you know... -He is.
...f-figure things out.
So was there a Senate to bring together?
-Here's why I think... -Like-- And I'll tell you--
-I'll add on to this. -Okay.
Look at the Republicans now
who voted for the infrastructure bill.
Thir-- Those 13 Republicans who stepped in and said,
"This is a bipartisan thing we agreed upon."
And now Trump has come out against them,
multiple Republicans have come--
they said they betrayed the party, but they're going,
"No, it was bipartisan, and that's how it got here."
Well, let me tell you the opposite side of that,
why I think there is bipartisanship available
and the center available.
Because in the Senate, you didn't see that happen.
19 Republicans voted for that bill in the Senate,
-including Mitch McConnell. -Right.
Mitch McConnell voted for that bill.
And so I think there is a Senate that's available
to be brought together.
Um, and-and-- Look, not on everything,
-but on this there was. -Right.
-Okay. -And what's going on in the House, I think,
is much more a-a symptom
of the gerrymandering that we have.
-Mm. -Right? The Senate, there's two for everybody.
In the House, you've got these gerrymandered districts
where some of these people are in far right districts
or far left districts.
All they're ever worried about is the primary, Trevor.
They're never worried about the general election.
And so they go running in the other direction.
Both-both parties.
We need to stop this gerrymandering in the country
so that there's more competitive districts
so that people care more about getting things done
than they care about just pleasing, you know,
any one particular constituency.
I definitely agree with you on that.
Um, thank you for the time. Thank you for joining me again.
-Thank you for having me. -Congratulations on the book.
I'm excited. I hope you run for two reasons.
One, because, uh, you make things interesting.
And, two, because you're one of the few people who,
on that stage, is probably gonna say something real
to Donald Trump. So I really hope you do run.
Well, thank you. And, listen-- And you know
I'll provide plenty of fodder for you
on your program. So we're trying to help.
You'll be on a beach one day, and I'll be there to see it.
-Thank you so much for being on the show. -Thanks, Trevor.
-Appreciate you. -Great to see you.
Governor Chris Christie's book,
Republican Rescue, is available right now.
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Now here it is, Your Moment of Zen.
That's right, I said it.
The shizzle is rizzle now
when it comes to messing with Congress' subpoenas.
The shizzle is "for rizzle."
This is the second time I've had to correct you today,
-but that's okay. It's not a big deal. -Wait, what did I--
What did you just say that I said differently?
You said "rizzle."
And what'd you say?
"For rizzle."