1 00:00:01,211 --> 00:00:02,412 Anybody a-a Braves fan in here? 2 00:00:04,414 --> 00:00:05,882 No one? 3 00:00:06,883 --> 00:00:08,318 Well, fine, let's talk about them. 4 00:00:08,351 --> 00:00:10,921 -(crew laughs) -Yeah, they won the World Series. 5 00:00:10,954 --> 00:00:12,522 Here's a question I have. Maybe you guys 6 00:00:12,556 --> 00:00:15,325 can explain this to me as a... as a non-American. 7 00:00:15,358 --> 00:00:17,460 Why are they still doing the chop thing? 8 00:00:17,494 --> 00:00:18,862 The tomahawk chop? 9 00:00:18,895 --> 00:00:20,964 Like, I see that in the stands. People... (groans) 10 00:00:20,997 --> 00:00:22,766 Why are they... Like, why are they doing that? 11 00:00:22,799 --> 00:00:24,301 How is that still a thing? 12 00:00:24,334 --> 00:00:26,169 Also, why is it that white people 13 00:00:26,202 --> 00:00:28,438 never seem to have rhythm until it's some racist shit? 14 00:00:28,471 --> 00:00:30,507 (crew laughing) 15 00:00:32,142 --> 00:00:34,211 Like, it's really convenient to me. 16 00:00:34,244 --> 00:00:35,478 When you're like, "Come on, dance with me." 17 00:00:35,512 --> 00:00:37,681 They're like, "I-I don't even know." 18 00:00:37,714 --> 00:00:38,782 Then you're like, "Tomahawk chop?" 19 00:00:38,815 --> 00:00:40,884 Everyone in unison. Bam, bam. 20 00:00:40,917 --> 00:00:43,086 Hit your marks. 21 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:45,622 ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from the heart of Times Square 22 00:00:45,655 --> 00:00:48,625 in New York City, the only city in America, 23 00:00:48,658 --> 00:00:50,694 it's The Daily Show. 24 00:00:50,727 --> 00:00:53,897 Tonight, America sees red, 25 00:00:53,930 --> 00:00:56,533 Representative Katie Porter, 26 00:00:56,566 --> 00:00:59,169 and Charlamagne tha God. 27 00:00:59,202 --> 00:01:03,940 This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 28 00:01:03,974 --> 00:01:06,042 Hey! What's going on, everybody? 29 00:01:06,076 --> 00:01:08,078 Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. 30 00:01:08,111 --> 00:01:10,447 Let's jump straight into today's headlines, 31 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,515 because wow. 32 00:01:12,549 --> 00:01:15,085 Yesterday was Election Day, 33 00:01:15,118 --> 00:01:18,154 and it was not a good day for the Democrats. 34 00:01:18,188 --> 00:01:20,757 Yeah, last night was the worst night 35 00:01:20,790 --> 00:01:22,359 for the Democrats since Kamala Harris 36 00:01:22,392 --> 00:01:24,427 went out for cigarettes and never came back. 37 00:01:24,461 --> 00:01:27,530 So, let's get into the Democrats's disastrous night 38 00:01:27,564 --> 00:01:30,267 in our new and maybe frequently recurring segment, 39 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:31,735 the Red Wedding. 40 00:01:31,768 --> 00:01:33,803 ♪ 41 00:01:41,678 --> 00:01:43,313 All right, let's start in the city 42 00:01:43,346 --> 00:01:45,315 that shook up the world in 2020. 43 00:01:45,348 --> 00:01:47,651 Since the police killing of George Floyd, 44 00:01:47,684 --> 00:01:49,786 Minneapolis citizens have been debating 45 00:01:49,819 --> 00:01:52,589 whether they should make "defund the police" 46 00:01:52,622 --> 00:01:54,190 a reality in their city. 47 00:01:54,224 --> 00:01:56,660 So, yesterday, they finally voted on a plan 48 00:01:56,693 --> 00:01:59,996 that would reorganize and rename the police department, 49 00:02:00,030 --> 00:02:02,332 give some of their functions to nonpolice 50 00:02:02,365 --> 00:02:04,968 and make cops more accountable. 51 00:02:05,001 --> 00:02:08,972 And that ballot measure lost by 12 points. 52 00:02:09,005 --> 00:02:12,142 Which, let me tell you now, in politics is not that close. 53 00:02:12,175 --> 00:02:14,744 It's not like losing a football game by 12. 54 00:02:14,778 --> 00:02:16,913 It's like losing a baseball game by 12. 55 00:02:16,947 --> 00:02:19,182 Yeah, that locker room is quiet. 56 00:02:19,216 --> 00:02:20,817 Now, one reason it lost 57 00:02:20,850 --> 00:02:23,119 was probably that the details of the plan were complicated, 58 00:02:23,153 --> 00:02:24,521 and what some voters heard 59 00:02:24,554 --> 00:02:27,257 was just the phrase "abolish the police." 60 00:02:27,290 --> 00:02:29,960 Because not a lot of people have time in their life 61 00:02:29,993 --> 00:02:32,028 to read the text of legislation. 62 00:02:32,062 --> 00:02:34,431 And the people that like to spend their free time 63 00:02:34,464 --> 00:02:37,400 reading bills, well, they could explain it to their friends, 64 00:02:37,434 --> 00:02:39,703 but they don't have any. 65 00:02:39,736 --> 00:02:41,738 But other voters did understand the plan, 66 00:02:41,771 --> 00:02:43,974 and they just didn't want it. 67 00:02:44,007 --> 00:02:47,577 The African American community is in a quandary, 68 00:02:47,611 --> 00:02:50,180 because, historically and currently, 69 00:02:50,213 --> 00:02:53,083 we are abused by police disproportionately. 70 00:02:53,116 --> 00:02:55,085 And, on the other hand, 71 00:02:55,118 --> 00:03:00,590 we also are abused and killed by our neighbors. 72 00:03:00,624 --> 00:03:02,826 And so it's a quandary we're in. 73 00:03:02,859 --> 00:03:04,828 And when you live here though, 74 00:03:04,861 --> 00:03:08,632 you realize that the-- we can't sacrifice one 75 00:03:08,665 --> 00:03:10,100 to address the other. 76 00:03:10,133 --> 00:03:12,569 Yeah. I see where that man is coming from. 77 00:03:12,602 --> 00:03:15,705 Because even if Black people don't love cops, 78 00:03:15,739 --> 00:03:19,776 the situation for them is more nuanced than you might think. 79 00:03:19,809 --> 00:03:22,612 I mean, even N.W.A., they didn't want to abolish the police. 80 00:03:22,646 --> 00:03:24,180 Yeah, (bleep) the police. 81 00:03:24,214 --> 00:03:28,184 But you still need to have them around to (bleep). 82 00:03:28,218 --> 00:03:30,353 And, by the way, just-just as an aside, 83 00:03:30,387 --> 00:03:32,923 it must be so hard to be a Black barber. 84 00:03:32,956 --> 00:03:35,058 Right? 'Cause, like, 90% of your shop 85 00:03:35,091 --> 00:03:36,226 is always just filled with reporters 86 00:03:36,259 --> 00:03:38,028 trying to interview Black people. 87 00:03:38,061 --> 00:03:39,563 I'm sure Black barbers are just like, "Yo! 88 00:03:39,596 --> 00:03:41,498 "Hey, man! Black people go to other places, too! 89 00:03:41,531 --> 00:03:42,999 "You guys ever heard of a grocery store? 90 00:03:43,033 --> 00:03:45,735 "Shit, I'm trying to cut hair. 91 00:03:45,769 --> 00:03:48,905 "But let me tell you my views on this issue as well. 92 00:03:48,939 --> 00:03:50,340 Now that you're here." 93 00:03:50,373 --> 00:03:52,509 But aside from the rejection of police reform in Minneapolis, 94 00:03:52,542 --> 00:03:54,044 there were setbacks for Democrats 95 00:03:54,077 --> 00:03:55,812 across the country last night. 96 00:03:55,845 --> 00:03:58,615 First of all, they barely-- and I mean barely-- 97 00:03:58,648 --> 00:04:01,551 eked out a victory in the race for governor of New Jersey. 98 00:04:01,585 --> 00:04:04,421 And that state is more blue than an orgy of Smurfs. 99 00:04:04,454 --> 00:04:06,890 But the bigger loss was in Virginia, 100 00:04:06,923 --> 00:04:08,758 or, as it's known by its full name, 101 00:04:08,792 --> 00:04:10,594 East West Virginia. 102 00:04:10,627 --> 00:04:12,562 Because Virginia has been becoming 103 00:04:12,596 --> 00:04:15,265 more and more Democratic for years now. 104 00:04:15,298 --> 00:04:17,133 They voted for the first Black president 105 00:04:17,167 --> 00:04:19,135 and the first blackface governor. 106 00:04:19,169 --> 00:04:20,437 So everyone expected them 107 00:04:20,470 --> 00:04:22,472 to elect another Democratic governor. 108 00:04:22,505 --> 00:04:24,975 But Virginia had other plans. 109 00:04:25,008 --> 00:04:26,643 NEWSWOMAN: Republicans reign. 110 00:04:26,676 --> 00:04:28,812 Glenn Youngkin, the projected winner 111 00:04:28,845 --> 00:04:31,248 in Virginia's high-stakes battle for governor. 112 00:04:31,281 --> 00:04:34,751 A stunning reversal in a solidly Democratic state. 113 00:04:34,784 --> 00:04:36,586 All righty, Virginia! 114 00:04:36,620 --> 00:04:39,589 -We won this thing! -(cheering) 115 00:04:39,623 --> 00:04:41,958 NEWSMAN: Narrowly defeating his Democratic opponent, 116 00:04:41,992 --> 00:04:43,560 former governor Terry McAuliffe, 117 00:04:43,593 --> 00:04:47,664 in a state President Biden won by ten points just one year ago. 118 00:04:47,697 --> 00:04:50,567 That is why, uh, there on the-- in the Oval Office 119 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,035 there's a big red warning light, 120 00:04:52,068 --> 00:04:55,205 uh, flashing right now after what happened in Virginia 121 00:04:55,238 --> 00:04:56,773 with a Republican winning. 122 00:04:56,806 --> 00:04:58,842 NEWSMAN 2: Could be a red flag for the upcoming midterms 123 00:04:58,875 --> 00:05:00,210 for Democrats. 124 00:05:00,243 --> 00:05:04,080 Okay, okay, I know there were a lot of factors here, 125 00:05:04,114 --> 00:05:06,850 but-but whatever this was, 126 00:05:06,883 --> 00:05:10,253 this-- that definitely didn't help. 127 00:05:10,287 --> 00:05:11,855 I mean, I guess you know what they say. 128 00:05:11,888 --> 00:05:13,924 "Dance like nobody's voting for you." 129 00:05:13,957 --> 00:05:16,593 And what's especially shocking about this result is 130 00:05:16,626 --> 00:05:21,031 that Joe Biden won Virginia by ten points just a year ago. 131 00:05:21,064 --> 00:05:23,233 That is a huge swing, people. 132 00:05:23,266 --> 00:05:25,402 That's like a Kim Kardashian going 133 00:05:25,435 --> 00:05:28,004 from Kanye to Pete Davidson level swing. 134 00:05:28,038 --> 00:05:32,042 Now on the one hand, this is just one race to lead one state. 135 00:05:32,075 --> 00:05:33,376 Please don't get me wrong. 136 00:05:33,410 --> 00:05:35,912 But as you heard, it could also be a bellwether 137 00:05:35,946 --> 00:05:38,081 of the things to come in the midterms next year. 138 00:05:38,114 --> 00:05:40,116 You know, the same way your girlfriend's saying, 139 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:41,952 "That guy is cute" is a bellwether 140 00:05:41,985 --> 00:05:43,553 that you're going to be single soon. 141 00:05:43,587 --> 00:05:47,557 So why did Democrats do so badly in Virginia last night? 142 00:05:47,591 --> 00:05:50,126 Well, it depends on who you ask. 143 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,662 This is a major defeat for the Democratic Party. 144 00:05:52,696 --> 00:05:55,398 Yes, it's a referendum on President Biden. 145 00:05:55,432 --> 00:05:58,001 Voters are, you know, disappointed in Biden, 146 00:05:58,034 --> 00:06:00,804 angry at Biden, distressed about what other things they see 147 00:06:00,837 --> 00:06:02,305 about inflation. 148 00:06:02,339 --> 00:06:04,975 The problem with Democrats is 149 00:06:05,008 --> 00:06:07,677 they made this about Trump, and Trump was not on the ballot. 150 00:06:07,711 --> 00:06:09,346 NEWSMAN: Youngkin cut into McAullife's margins 151 00:06:09,379 --> 00:06:13,083 in Democratic strongholds by focusing on education, 152 00:06:13,116 --> 00:06:15,285 including the controversial critical race theory. 153 00:06:15,318 --> 00:06:17,621 There's no doubt that critical race theory is a weapon 154 00:06:17,654 --> 00:06:19,689 that he utilized to great effect. 155 00:06:19,723 --> 00:06:21,658 Well, the message is tonight is-is that the liberal policies 156 00:06:21,691 --> 00:06:24,628 that are being pushed right now through Washington 157 00:06:24,661 --> 00:06:26,897 are not necessarily very successful. 158 00:06:26,930 --> 00:06:30,233 This is not a referendum on liberal versus progressive 159 00:06:30,267 --> 00:06:31,935 versus moderate in the Democratic Party. 160 00:06:31,968 --> 00:06:33,837 This is a referendum on the fact 161 00:06:33,870 --> 00:06:35,872 that they haven't gotten anything done. 162 00:06:35,906 --> 00:06:38,174 Ooh. All right, it would be bad enough 163 00:06:38,208 --> 00:06:40,944 if Democrats had one reason they lost, 164 00:06:40,977 --> 00:06:43,013 but they have, like, 50. 165 00:06:43,046 --> 00:06:45,916 I mean, it's Biden's unpopularity. 166 00:06:45,949 --> 00:06:47,784 It's worries about the economy. 167 00:06:47,817 --> 00:06:50,186 It's the fact that the pandemic is still hanging around 168 00:06:50,220 --> 00:06:53,256 like the Tootsie Rolls three weeks after Halloween. 169 00:06:53,290 --> 00:06:55,492 And then, there's strategy problems. 170 00:06:55,525 --> 00:06:58,795 I mean, Democrats kept trying to fire up their base 171 00:06:58,828 --> 00:07:01,331 by making this race about Donald Trump. 172 00:07:01,364 --> 00:07:03,767 But here's the thing. Trump wasn't running. 173 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,402 Honestly, Democrats, 174 00:07:05,435 --> 00:07:08,204 you should enjoy this break from Trump while you can. 175 00:07:08,238 --> 00:07:11,908 Because after he wins in 2024, and declares himself emperor, 176 00:07:11,942 --> 00:07:14,778 you'll be running against him forever. 177 00:07:14,811 --> 00:07:16,947 And on the Republican side, I mean, there's no denying 178 00:07:16,980 --> 00:07:18,415 that Glenn Youngkin's fearmongering 179 00:07:18,448 --> 00:07:20,550 about critical race theory also played a roll, 180 00:07:20,584 --> 00:07:22,452 and honestly, this, my friends, 181 00:07:22,485 --> 00:07:24,821 this is where Republicans really excel. 182 00:07:24,854 --> 00:07:27,090 I mean, they set the agenda. 183 00:07:27,123 --> 00:07:29,259 They know how to play the game. 184 00:07:29,292 --> 00:07:31,595 Because a year ago, if you asked anyone 185 00:07:31,628 --> 00:07:34,664 what critical race theory was, they'd be like, 186 00:07:34,698 --> 00:07:36,900 "I have no idea what you're talking about." 187 00:07:36,933 --> 00:07:39,102 But if you ask them now, they will be like, 188 00:07:39,135 --> 00:07:41,671 "I still have no idea what you are talking about, 189 00:07:41,705 --> 00:07:43,740 but I'm terrified of it!" 190 00:07:43,773 --> 00:07:46,109 And it is not just Critical Race Theory. 191 00:07:46,142 --> 00:07:49,312 Republicans have been doing this for decades, 192 00:07:49,346 --> 00:07:52,115 and they are great at it. 193 00:07:52,148 --> 00:07:55,619 Everything America fights about, they start it. 194 00:07:55,652 --> 00:07:57,087 All these culture wars. 195 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,422 The transpeople want to use your bathroom! 196 00:07:59,456 --> 00:08:01,625 The gays want to defile marriage! 197 00:08:01,658 --> 00:08:04,828 There's a war on Christmas! They're trying to kill Santa! 198 00:08:04,861 --> 00:08:07,297 Dead people and illegal immigrants are voting! 199 00:08:07,330 --> 00:08:08,932 It's all them. Smart. 200 00:08:08,965 --> 00:08:12,435 What you need to understand is, if they can set the agenda, 201 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:14,871 then they can choose the fight. 202 00:08:14,905 --> 00:08:17,107 Like, if I'm going to fight Floyd Mayweather, 203 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:19,009 I'm not going to choose to fight him in the ring. 204 00:08:19,042 --> 00:08:21,111 I'm gonna choose to fight him in a spelling bee. 205 00:08:21,144 --> 00:08:24,047 Yeah, then we'll see who the greatest of all time is, champ. 206 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,349 C-H-A-M-P. Champ. 207 00:08:26,383 --> 00:08:28,318 I mean, for the most part, Democrats don't want to engage 208 00:08:28,351 --> 00:08:29,553 in those culture wars, 209 00:08:29,586 --> 00:08:31,221 because they think that they can win 210 00:08:31,254 --> 00:08:34,925 on policy alone, but where that plan falls apart 211 00:08:34,958 --> 00:08:39,195 is that they are not getting anything actually done. 212 00:08:39,229 --> 00:08:43,233 'Cause all their ideas are tied up in in-fighting and bickering. 213 00:08:43,266 --> 00:08:44,634 And that makes a difference. 214 00:08:44,668 --> 00:08:46,336 Makes a huge difference in messaging, 215 00:08:46,369 --> 00:08:47,871 because when Republicans say, 216 00:08:47,904 --> 00:08:49,172 "Democrats are teaching your kids 217 00:08:49,205 --> 00:08:51,541 that white people are all bad," 218 00:08:51,575 --> 00:08:52,842 what can Democrats say? 219 00:08:52,876 --> 00:08:54,878 No. We're not doing that! 220 00:08:54,911 --> 00:08:57,147 Okay, then what are you doing? 221 00:08:57,180 --> 00:09:01,384 Well, right now we're trying to get you six weeks of paid leave. 222 00:09:01,418 --> 00:09:02,719 Huh? 223 00:09:02,752 --> 00:09:04,054 What? No? Zero weeks? 224 00:09:04,087 --> 00:09:07,390 Okay, no paid leave, but we are getting you free college. 225 00:09:07,424 --> 00:09:08,425 Huh? What's that? 226 00:09:08,458 --> 00:09:10,193 No? Okay, no free college. 227 00:09:10,227 --> 00:09:13,230 But we are raising taxes on rich people! 228 00:09:13,263 --> 00:09:14,464 What is that? No? 229 00:09:14,497 --> 00:09:16,866 Oh, we're cutting the taxes on rich people. 230 00:09:16,900 --> 00:09:19,569 And that is the Democrat promise. 231 00:09:19,603 --> 00:09:21,238 (bell dings) 232 00:09:21,271 --> 00:09:23,006 Here is a simple message to the Democrats. 233 00:09:23,039 --> 00:09:25,242 You can come with all the nice ideas in the world, 234 00:09:25,275 --> 00:09:27,577 but if you can't make the changes that you promise, 235 00:09:27,611 --> 00:09:30,680 then best believe voters are gonna make some changes 236 00:09:30,714 --> 00:09:32,182 of their own. 237 00:09:32,215 --> 00:09:34,184 All right, when we come back, we'll take a look 238 00:09:34,217 --> 00:09:38,154 at a secret trick to get you all out of debt. 239 00:09:38,188 --> 00:09:38,255 You don't want to miss it. 240 00:09:40,296 --> 00:09:41,764 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 241 00:09:41,864 --> 00:09:43,098 My next against is Lenard McKelvey, 242 00:09:43,199 --> 00:09:45,000 aka Charlamagne tha God. 243 00:09:45,100 --> 00:09:47,469 He's here to talk about Tha God's Honest Truth, 244 00:09:47,570 --> 00:09:51,073 his new weekly late-night series for Comedy Central. 245 00:09:51,173 --> 00:09:52,474 Michael Myers being homophobic 246 00:09:52,575 --> 00:09:54,243 is complete bull(bleep), though, all right? 247 00:09:54,343 --> 00:09:56,779 Black folks in horror movies been getting killed first. 248 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:59,415 Before the lights go down in the theater, we dead. 249 00:09:59,515 --> 00:10:00,783 All right? 250 00:10:00,883 --> 00:10:03,452 And not once have I seen a horror villain 251 00:10:03,552 --> 00:10:04,954 being called racist. 252 00:10:05,054 --> 00:10:08,390 And women have been getting killed in horror movies forever, 253 00:10:08,490 --> 00:10:10,693 and not once has a horror villain 254 00:10:10,793 --> 00:10:12,061 been called sexist. 255 00:10:12,161 --> 00:10:13,729 So, as far as I'm concerned, 256 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:15,731 this is what diverse representation looks like, 257 00:10:15,831 --> 00:10:17,333 all right? 258 00:10:17,433 --> 00:10:20,302 A couple that happens to be gay 259 00:10:20,402 --> 00:10:22,204 getting murdered in a horror film 260 00:10:22,304 --> 00:10:24,573 is not prejudice. It's progress. 261 00:10:24,673 --> 00:10:27,209 -That is true progress. Murder for all. -Hey. 262 00:10:27,309 --> 00:10:28,744 -What's going on? -Trevor, what's up, my brother? 263 00:10:28,844 --> 00:10:30,479 -How you doing, man? -Blessed, Black and highly favored. 264 00:10:30,579 --> 00:10:32,047 -How are you, sir? Yes, sir. -I love that. I love that. 265 00:10:32,147 --> 00:10:33,849 I'm-I'm doing great. I want to know all about you, though. 266 00:10:33,949 --> 00:10:35,084 Let's-let's start with the, uh, 267 00:10:35,184 --> 00:10:36,519 the most pressing question that I have. 268 00:10:36,619 --> 00:10:39,288 -You moved into my old building, my studio. -Yeah. 269 00:10:39,388 --> 00:10:40,789 Is it treating you well? Are you paying the rent? 270 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:42,191 -What's going on there? -(laughs) 271 00:10:42,291 --> 00:10:44,293 I'm not paying the rent, but I'm hopefully doing enough 272 00:10:44,393 --> 00:10:46,061 -to keep the lights on, you know? -(laughs) 273 00:10:46,162 --> 00:10:47,763 Um, it's a beautiful place. We call it... 274 00:10:47,863 --> 00:10:49,665 -I don't... Did you have a name for it when you were there? -No. 275 00:10:49,765 --> 00:10:51,167 Okay, we named it the Happy Accident. 276 00:10:51,267 --> 00:10:53,235 -Oh, the Happy Accident? -Yeah, because, you know, 277 00:10:53,402 --> 00:10:54,970 Stephen Colbert, he's an executive producer on the show, 278 00:10:55,070 --> 00:10:57,673 and he always talks about how his career was a happy accident, 279 00:10:57,773 --> 00:10:59,742 and us ending up in that building was a happy accident. 280 00:10:59,842 --> 00:11:01,810 And, um, my showrunner, Rachael Edwards, 281 00:11:01,911 --> 00:11:04,647 her company is actually called Happy Accident LLC, 282 00:11:04,747 --> 00:11:06,815 which I didn't know until me and Stephen 283 00:11:06,916 --> 00:11:08,150 were having a conversation on set 284 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:09,785 and she happened to be standing by. 285 00:11:09,885 --> 00:11:11,620 And then she came over and let us know 286 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,088 that her company is called The Happy Accident LLC. 287 00:11:13,189 --> 00:11:15,191 -It's like a cosmic... -Yeah. 288 00:11:15,291 --> 00:11:16,692 -It was all meant to be. -A lot of divine alignment. 289 00:11:16,792 --> 00:11:18,127 -Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. -I like that. I like that. 290 00:11:18,227 --> 00:11:19,929 -Definitely. -Well, um, congratulations on the show. 291 00:11:20,029 --> 00:11:21,664 -Thank you, sir. -I mean, I'm enjoying watching you 292 00:11:21,764 --> 00:11:23,566 do your thing and watching you grow every single week. 293 00:11:23,666 --> 00:11:25,835 Like, just, you know, you know, what I enjoy about it is this. 294 00:11:25,935 --> 00:11:29,505 Um, it feels like the show is very much Charlamagne 295 00:11:29,605 --> 00:11:32,575 in that it is you molding yourself to the space. 296 00:11:32,675 --> 00:11:34,009 Yeah, it's very much Lenard. 297 00:11:34,109 --> 00:11:35,578 -You know? Yeah. -Oh, that's interesting. 298 00:11:35,678 --> 00:11:37,046 -Yeah, 'cause I think... -Let's talk about that. Who is Lenard? 299 00:11:37,146 --> 00:11:39,782 Well, Lenard is, uh, the person that Charlamagne 300 00:11:39,882 --> 00:11:42,418 was kind of created to protect. You know? 301 00:11:42,518 --> 00:11:44,186 Because Lenard is the kid that grew up 302 00:11:44,286 --> 00:11:46,222 in Moncks Corner, South Carolina, 303 00:11:46,388 --> 00:11:48,224 who, uh, had a lot of issues 304 00:11:48,390 --> 00:11:50,659 that he might not have, uh, dealt with. 305 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:52,995 So he created the character of Charlamagne to protect him. 306 00:11:53,095 --> 00:11:54,997 So now as I'm-I'm older, 307 00:11:55,097 --> 00:11:57,032 it's like you can't really hide Lenard. 308 00:11:57,132 --> 00:11:59,201 You can't hide Lenard when, you know, he's a father 309 00:11:59,301 --> 00:12:00,736 of-of four beautiful daughters, 310 00:12:00,836 --> 00:12:02,104 and, you know, you can't really hide Lenard 311 00:12:02,204 --> 00:12:03,873 when Lenard's been in therapy for the past six years 312 00:12:03,973 --> 00:12:05,674 and Lenard has written two books 313 00:12:05,774 --> 00:12:07,610 and given you so much of himself. 314 00:12:07,710 --> 00:12:10,679 -And it just feels easier to be Lenard, at this point. -Wow. 315 00:12:10,779 --> 00:12:12,515 -That's inspiring, man. -Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 316 00:12:12,615 --> 00:12:14,817 I feel like I should also tell the people my real name. 317 00:12:14,917 --> 00:12:17,586 -What's your real name, Trevor? -Nomathamsanqa. 318 00:12:17,686 --> 00:12:19,321 -It's time for me to come out. -No, that's true though. 319 00:12:19,421 --> 00:12:22,191 -(laughs) -No, 'cause you from South Africa. (stammers) 320 00:12:22,291 --> 00:12:24,527 Trevor's a name I made up, people! 321 00:12:24,627 --> 00:12:26,462 -I believe him. -I am... (laughs) 322 00:12:26,562 --> 00:12:28,130 -Is it true? -No, I actually wish-- 323 00:12:28,230 --> 00:12:29,465 -I actually wish that it was true. -Okay, okay, okay. 324 00:12:29,565 --> 00:12:31,200 But-but you know what I love about this, is, like-- 325 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:32,902 This-this is what I'm enjoying about the show 326 00:12:33,002 --> 00:12:35,337 and about your journey as a human being, is, like, 327 00:12:35,437 --> 00:12:38,674 let's be honest, hip-hop and mental health 328 00:12:38,774 --> 00:12:40,176 have not exactly been aligned. 329 00:12:40,276 --> 00:12:42,378 Th-There hasn't been, like, a culture of like, you know, 330 00:12:42,478 --> 00:12:43,779 "This is how hard I am, 331 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:45,581 and this is when I go to my therapist." 332 00:12:45,681 --> 00:12:47,449 -That hasn't exactly been in that world. -(laughs) 333 00:12:47,550 --> 00:12:49,451 When did you decide that, "You know what, therapy shouldn't be 334 00:12:49,552 --> 00:12:52,221 "a secret thing that I-- that I conduct in a room 335 00:12:52,388 --> 00:12:53,389 "once a week or whatever. 336 00:12:53,489 --> 00:12:54,890 This needs to be in the open"? 337 00:12:54,990 --> 00:12:56,892 Yeah, I was going-- I-I thought I was going crazy. 338 00:12:56,992 --> 00:12:59,562 'Cause, you know, for me, I had all the success, right? 339 00:12:59,662 --> 00:13:01,564 Like, you know, New York Times best-selling book, 340 00:13:01,664 --> 00:13:03,165 nationally syndicated radio show. 341 00:13:03,265 --> 00:13:04,733 Everything was going great, 342 00:13:04,834 --> 00:13:07,269 -but I literally was not happy. You know what I mean? -Ooh. 343 00:13:07,403 --> 00:13:09,104 So it was like I was dealing with, like, 344 00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:11,207 extreme bouts of depression 345 00:13:11,307 --> 00:13:13,008 and the anxiety started to get worse. 346 00:13:13,108 --> 00:13:14,844 And I remember actually being on vacation, 347 00:13:14,944 --> 00:13:18,514 and I had this moment of peace where I didn't feel any of that. 348 00:13:18,614 --> 00:13:21,016 And I hadn't felt that in probably ever, 349 00:13:21,116 --> 00:13:22,751 'cause I dealt with panic attacks my whole life. 350 00:13:22,852 --> 00:13:25,054 So I literally was like, "How can I feel like this 351 00:13:25,154 --> 00:13:26,822 all the time without going on vacation?" 352 00:13:26,922 --> 00:13:28,290 And that's when I started the journey, 353 00:13:28,424 --> 00:13:31,060 -probably, like, in 2016, of, like, going to therapy. -Mm-hmm. 354 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,428 And, at the same time, I started, you know, 355 00:13:32,461 --> 00:13:33,963 writing my book, so that was-- 356 00:13:34,063 --> 00:13:36,165 I was peeling back so many different layers. 357 00:13:36,265 --> 00:13:38,534 Starting in therapy, starting with writing the book. 358 00:13:38,634 --> 00:13:40,236 And it would be like-- 359 00:13:40,369 --> 00:13:42,571 It wouldn't be authentic of me to go on the radio and talk 360 00:13:42,671 --> 00:13:44,974 about anything else other than what I was going through. 361 00:13:45,074 --> 00:13:46,375 Yeah, it's been... It's become a big part of your... 362 00:13:46,475 --> 00:13:47,710 I mean, your Instagram is dedicated to it. 363 00:13:47,810 --> 00:13:49,678 -It's all I want to do. -Your-your show. 364 00:13:49,778 --> 00:13:51,180 I mean, Tha God's Honest Truth. 365 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,815 -Yeah, that, too. -I mean, yeah, you're talking about racism, 366 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:54,183 you're talking about, you know, the Democrats, 367 00:13:54,283 --> 00:13:55,751 you're talking about politics. 368 00:13:55,851 --> 00:13:57,386 And then, it's like, "Oh, we're doing a thing on mental health." 369 00:13:57,453 --> 00:14:01,390 Listen, man, God, Black women and therapy are my life sources. 370 00:14:01,490 --> 00:14:04,426 Those-those are my sources of power at this point in my life. 371 00:14:04,527 --> 00:14:06,729 You know what's crazy? I got Wolverine tattooed on my arm. 372 00:14:06,829 --> 00:14:09,398 -Right? And I got this tattoo when was 17 years old. -Uh-huh. 373 00:14:09,465 --> 00:14:10,833 In South Carolina where tattoos were illegal. 374 00:14:10,933 --> 00:14:12,468 This dude named T. Willis did it. 375 00:14:12,568 --> 00:14:13,702 I don't even know if T. Willis is still alive, 376 00:14:13,802 --> 00:14:14,770 but the dude was T. Willis. 377 00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:16,238 He did this tattoo on my arm. 378 00:14:16,405 --> 00:14:18,574 And I always gravitated toward Wolverine 379 00:14:18,674 --> 00:14:20,209 'cause of his healing powers. 380 00:14:20,309 --> 00:14:22,178 I didn't know what the hell that was when I was 17. 381 00:14:22,278 --> 00:14:24,914 I just thought it was cool that this dude could just bounce back 382 00:14:25,014 --> 00:14:26,615 -from anything. -Right. 383 00:14:26,715 --> 00:14:28,784 Now, at this age of my... at this point in my life, 384 00:14:28,884 --> 00:14:31,320 I'm sitting back like, "That's all I want to do." 385 00:14:31,420 --> 00:14:33,222 I've dedicated my life to not only my own healing journey, 386 00:14:33,322 --> 00:14:34,757 -but helping other people heal. -Right. 387 00:14:34,857 --> 00:14:36,926 -Trying to be an emotional Wolverine. -Emotion... (laughs) 388 00:14:37,026 --> 00:14:39,094 -I mean, that's essentially what you're saying. -Exactly. 389 00:14:39,195 --> 00:14:40,696 -Right. -100%. 390 00:14:40,796 --> 00:14:42,731 -Won't make the same money at the box office. -Nah, nah, nah. 391 00:14:42,832 --> 00:14:45,367 -But it will be a fulfilling journey. -Exactly. 392 00:14:45,467 --> 00:14:47,837 Yeah. He's bleeding to death, but feels good inside. 393 00:14:47,937 --> 00:14:50,673 -Um... (laughs) -(laughs) Exactly. 394 00:14:50,773 --> 00:14:52,374 -Uh, Tha God's Honest Truth. -Yes. 395 00:14:52,441 --> 00:14:53,742 -I love the title. -Thank you. 396 00:14:53,843 --> 00:14:55,678 You had one of Biden's people on the show. 397 00:14:55,778 --> 00:14:58,013 -Cedric Richmond, Senior Advisor to Joe Biden. -Yes. Uh-huh. 398 00:14:58,113 --> 00:14:59,415 You know, you grilled him on... 399 00:14:59,515 --> 00:15:00,783 A lot of people loved the question, for instance, 400 00:15:00,883 --> 00:15:02,251 -"What has Joe Biden done for Black people?" -Yes. 401 00:15:02,384 --> 00:15:03,953 And seeing that Black people are the reason 402 00:15:04,053 --> 00:15:05,621 that he's in the seat that he's in now. 403 00:15:05,721 --> 00:15:07,089 Well, I'm actually just concerned 404 00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:09,391 because I'm an American citizen, and I really do feel like, 405 00:15:09,458 --> 00:15:12,127 you know, the death of democracy is at our doorstep. 406 00:15:12,228 --> 00:15:13,662 Simply because there's things that, you know, 407 00:15:13,762 --> 00:15:14,830 the Democratic Party could be doing, 408 00:15:14,930 --> 00:15:16,499 in particular, the Biden Administration, 409 00:15:16,599 --> 00:15:19,001 -that they're not doing. -Such as? 410 00:15:19,101 --> 00:15:21,437 I mean, number one, you got to get rid of the filibuster 411 00:15:21,537 --> 00:15:23,205 so you can properly govern, right? 412 00:15:23,305 --> 00:15:25,407 Um, I think you've got to prosecute, you know, the people 413 00:15:25,474 --> 00:15:27,710 who attempted the coup on this country on January 6. 414 00:15:27,810 --> 00:15:30,079 Not just the people who physically tried to do it, 415 00:15:30,179 --> 00:15:31,714 but the politicians and stuff 416 00:15:31,814 --> 00:15:33,582 that may have been behind it, you know? 417 00:15:33,682 --> 00:15:36,719 Um, I think you have to pack the Supreme Court. 418 00:15:36,819 --> 00:15:38,420 Like, you absolutely, positively have to, 419 00:15:38,487 --> 00:15:40,623 especially when you see, you know, the Supreme Court... 420 00:15:40,723 --> 00:15:42,358 You know, the Supreme Court is literally holding up 421 00:15:42,458 --> 00:15:44,593 handmade sales law in Texas in regard to abortion. 422 00:15:44,693 --> 00:15:46,695 So no, I mean, people will come with the opposite argument 423 00:15:46,795 --> 00:15:48,731 and they go, like: when does the swing end in America? 424 00:15:48,831 --> 00:15:50,933 Because then Mitch McConnell goes: All right, you do this now 425 00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:53,269 and then, "As soon as I get into power, Charlamagne, 426 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,771 "I'm gonna flip this around, I'm gonna double pack the Court, 427 00:15:55,871 --> 00:15:57,273 and then you're gonna see what happens to you." 428 00:15:57,373 --> 00:15:58,674 Well, does it matter? 429 00:15:58,774 --> 00:16:00,476 Because if you actually do what you are supposed to do 430 00:16:00,576 --> 00:16:02,578 by your people, you might not ever have to worry 431 00:16:02,678 --> 00:16:05,181 -about being out of power. -That's an interesting point. 432 00:16:05,281 --> 00:16:07,716 Right now they have some real concerns... 433 00:16:07,816 --> 00:16:09,718 As a matter of fact, no, they are going to lose in 2022. 434 00:16:09,818 --> 00:16:11,720 Let's just call it what it is. You know that. 435 00:16:11,820 --> 00:16:13,055 They're gonna lose in 2022, 436 00:16:13,155 --> 00:16:15,591 because they haven't fulfilled any of the promises 437 00:16:15,691 --> 00:16:17,259 that they said they were going to fulfill. 438 00:16:17,393 --> 00:16:18,527 And the fact that they could... 439 00:16:18,627 --> 00:16:20,162 they actually could do it, right? 440 00:16:20,262 --> 00:16:21,597 When you see that it's Joe Manchin 441 00:16:21,697 --> 00:16:25,034 and, uh, Kyrsten Sinema... or Krysten Sinema blocking... 442 00:16:25,134 --> 00:16:27,469 -It's Kyrsten. -Kyrsten. Kyrsten. Whatever. 443 00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:29,004 Sinema-- you know, God bless her. 444 00:16:29,104 --> 00:16:31,440 But it's those two people blocking Biden's agenda, 445 00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:33,075 and they're Democrats, 446 00:16:33,175 --> 00:16:35,077 what does that say to the people that voted for them? 447 00:16:35,177 --> 00:16:38,180 Like, we put y'all in office to help our interests, 448 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,449 but now you got two of your own blocking your interests? 449 00:16:40,549 --> 00:16:42,017 -Yeah. -Trump would never allow that. 450 00:16:42,117 --> 00:16:44,186 -That's true. -Do you think Trump would allow 451 00:16:44,353 --> 00:16:45,888 -two people in his party... -Oh, he didn't allow anybody. 452 00:16:45,988 --> 00:16:47,590 Oh, come on, he'd have a nickname for them. 453 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:48,691 He would be mad at you 454 00:16:48,791 --> 00:16:51,126 for correcting him on her first name. 455 00:16:51,227 --> 00:16:52,661 Oh, he'd be out there. He'd be like, 456 00:16:52,761 --> 00:16:54,964 -"Slow Sinema, Slow Sinema. -Oh, come on, man. 457 00:16:55,064 --> 00:16:56,966 Oh, yeah, I'm concerned. 458 00:16:57,066 --> 00:16:58,901 -Okay. Okay. -I really am concerned. 459 00:16:59,001 --> 00:17:01,370 Well, I would tell people to watch your show, 460 00:17:01,403 --> 00:17:03,038 but I haven't been invited to it, so... 461 00:17:03,138 --> 00:17:05,374 -I would love to have you on. -Oh, now you say that. 462 00:17:05,441 --> 00:17:07,543 I don't know how the Comedy Central protocol works. 463 00:17:07,643 --> 00:17:09,578 -I'm shocked I'm here. -Oh, so now there's protocol? 464 00:17:09,678 --> 00:17:10,813 Now there's protocol? 465 00:17:10,913 --> 00:17:12,181 When has there ever been protocol? 466 00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:14,550 You just texted me random things-- now there's protocol? 467 00:17:14,650 --> 00:17:15,851 No, I'd love to have you on. 468 00:17:15,951 --> 00:17:17,453 -I appreciate you. -All right. My guy. 469 00:17:17,553 --> 00:17:19,121 -Thank you so much for being here. -Yes, sir. 470 00:17:19,221 --> 00:17:20,689 All right, Tha God's Honest Truth 471 00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:23,459 with Charlamagne Tha God airs Fridays at 10 p.m. 472 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:25,528 on Comedy Central, and it streams on Paramount+ 473 00:17:25,628 --> 00:17:26,729 if you do not do cable. 474 00:17:26,829 --> 00:17:28,797 All right, we're gonna take a quick break, 475 00:17:28,898 --> 00:17:30,499 but we'll be right back after this. 476 00:23:43,952 --> 00:23:45,387 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 477 00:23:45,420 --> 00:23:47,822 Let's talk about Johnson & Johnson. 478 00:23:47,856 --> 00:23:50,492 Right now, you probably know them best 479 00:23:50,525 --> 00:23:54,195 as the bronze medal winner in the 2021 vaccine Olympics. 480 00:23:54,229 --> 00:23:56,731 They just beat out the Trinidadian vaccine 481 00:23:56,765 --> 00:23:58,466 that turned Nicki Minaj's cousin's friend 482 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,168 into a human beanbag chair. 483 00:24:00,201 --> 00:24:01,469 And while their vaccine 484 00:24:01,503 --> 00:24:03,305 is getting most of the attention right now, 485 00:24:03,338 --> 00:24:04,839 J&J's also responsible 486 00:24:04,873 --> 00:24:07,542 for hundreds of other products and brands. 487 00:24:07,575 --> 00:24:10,245 You know, they basically make everything in a Walgreens 488 00:24:10,278 --> 00:24:12,247 aside from the Christmas decorations 489 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,649 and those action figures divorced dads buy 490 00:24:14,683 --> 00:24:15,984 on their way to their kid's birthday. 491 00:24:16,017 --> 00:24:18,687 But one of the signature Johnson & Johnson products 492 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,757 has landed them in some big legal and financial trouble. 493 00:24:22,791 --> 00:24:25,160 And we'll tell you the shocking way 494 00:24:25,193 --> 00:24:26,461 that they're trying to get out of it 495 00:24:26,494 --> 00:24:29,531 in another installment of Bad Company. 496 00:24:29,564 --> 00:24:31,599 ♪ 497 00:24:36,171 --> 00:24:39,474 Since 1886, Johnson & Johnson's name 498 00:24:39,507 --> 00:24:40,809 has been on everything. 499 00:24:40,842 --> 00:24:44,245 Baby oil, shampoo and conditioner, 500 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:45,714 moisturizer, 501 00:24:45,747 --> 00:24:48,083 Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. 502 00:24:48,116 --> 00:24:49,684 But one of their most iconic products 503 00:24:49,718 --> 00:24:51,653 is talcum baby powder. 504 00:24:51,686 --> 00:24:55,523 And while it might have kept our downstairs dry, 505 00:24:55,557 --> 00:24:59,594 it also may have caused some very harmful side effects. 506 00:24:59,628 --> 00:25:00,862 NEWSWOMAN: Johnson & Johnson is facing 507 00:25:00,895 --> 00:25:02,731 thousands of lawsuits over allegations 508 00:25:02,764 --> 00:25:06,067 that some of its talc powder was contaminated with asbestos. 509 00:25:06,101 --> 00:25:07,502 NEWSMAN: It's been a product mainstay 510 00:25:07,535 --> 00:25:09,504 for Johnson & Johnson for decades. 511 00:25:09,537 --> 00:25:11,473 Now talcum baby powder 512 00:25:11,506 --> 00:25:14,376 is at the center of multiple investigations. 513 00:25:14,409 --> 00:25:16,645 At issue, has the company hidden evidence 514 00:25:16,678 --> 00:25:19,047 that its baby powder is linked to asbestos 515 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,448 and ovarian cancer 516 00:25:20,482 --> 00:25:23,285 in women who use it around their genitals? 517 00:25:23,318 --> 00:25:25,720 NEWSMAN 2: J&J has long since denied the claim, 518 00:25:25,754 --> 00:25:28,390 but now documents reveal the company knew 519 00:25:28,423 --> 00:25:30,959 about the presence of small amounts of asbestos 520 00:25:30,992 --> 00:25:34,763 in its products as far back as 1957 521 00:25:34,796 --> 00:25:37,232 but did not disclose that to the public. 522 00:25:37,265 --> 00:25:39,334 NEWSMAN 3: Thousands of people have sued J&J, 523 00:25:39,367 --> 00:25:42,570 some winning tens of millions of dollars in judgments. 524 00:25:42,604 --> 00:25:45,540 NEWSWOMAN 2: Johnson & Johnson ordered to pay $55 million 525 00:25:45,573 --> 00:25:49,277 to a South Dakota woman who blamed her ovarian cancer 526 00:25:49,311 --> 00:25:51,046 on the company's talcum powder. 527 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:54,082 NEWSWOMAN 3: A St. Louis jury awarded 62-year-old Lois Slemp 528 00:25:54,115 --> 00:25:56,451 more than $110 million. 529 00:25:56,484 --> 00:25:58,453 NEWSWOMAN 4: A jury awarding a California woman 530 00:25:58,486 --> 00:26:01,589 $417 million. 531 00:26:01,623 --> 00:26:03,792 NEWSMAN 4: One single verdict for 20 women 532 00:26:03,825 --> 00:26:06,094 exceeded $2 billion. 533 00:26:06,127 --> 00:26:07,796 Ooh-wee! 534 00:26:07,829 --> 00:26:09,564 That's a lot of lawsuits. 535 00:26:09,597 --> 00:26:11,533 I mean, you know you (bleep) up 536 00:26:11,566 --> 00:26:14,502 when your company is giving away more money than Powerball. 537 00:26:14,536 --> 00:26:16,371 And I get why it's happening. 538 00:26:16,404 --> 00:26:20,175 Because, guys, you cannot be selling baby powder 539 00:26:20,208 --> 00:26:22,777 with asbestos in it. 540 00:26:22,811 --> 00:26:25,914 People are rubbing the stuff all over their bodies. 541 00:26:25,947 --> 00:26:27,716 Not to mention the cocaine dealers 542 00:26:27,749 --> 00:26:29,184 who mix it in with their product. 543 00:26:29,217 --> 00:26:30,719 Now you've got innocent cokeheads 544 00:26:30,752 --> 00:26:33,622 snorting asbestos. It's unacceptable. 545 00:26:33,655 --> 00:26:36,224 Now, the experts over at Johnson & Johnson, 546 00:26:36,257 --> 00:26:39,194 they-they have found a cure. 547 00:26:39,227 --> 00:26:41,963 But unfortunately, it's not a cure for the cancer. 548 00:26:41,997 --> 00:26:45,000 It's for the company's legal problems. 549 00:26:45,033 --> 00:26:47,769 Johnson & Johnson is filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy 550 00:26:47,802 --> 00:26:49,404 in hopes of-- what the company says-- 551 00:26:49,437 --> 00:26:51,706 of disposing of 40,000 lawsuits. 552 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:53,274 In order to limit their liability 553 00:26:53,308 --> 00:26:55,310 as well as to shield their corporate assets, 554 00:26:55,343 --> 00:26:57,479 Johnson & Johnson pulled something that's actually known 555 00:26:57,512 --> 00:26:59,381 as the Texas legal loophole, 556 00:26:59,414 --> 00:27:01,916 also known as the Texas Two-Step defense. 557 00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:04,619 MAN: J&J is this superrich health products company 558 00:27:04,653 --> 00:27:05,854 headquartered in New Jersey. 559 00:27:05,887 --> 00:27:07,589 So, J&J went to Texas, 560 00:27:07,622 --> 00:27:10,058 and using a quirk of that state's laws, 561 00:27:10,091 --> 00:27:12,394 they created a completely new company 562 00:27:12,427 --> 00:27:14,329 called LTL. 563 00:27:14,362 --> 00:27:17,332 Then Johnson & Johnson dumped all the liability 564 00:27:17,365 --> 00:27:19,567 for these baby powder asbestos lawsuits, 565 00:27:19,601 --> 00:27:22,137 you know, tens of billions of dollars of legal risk, 566 00:27:22,170 --> 00:27:24,205 into this new firm. 567 00:27:24,239 --> 00:27:27,976 Then the new company, LTL, quickly filed for bankruptcy. 568 00:27:28,009 --> 00:27:29,244 NEWSWOMAN: Critics say the company 569 00:27:29,277 --> 00:27:30,845 is abusing the legal system 570 00:27:30,879 --> 00:27:34,382 and have called the bankruptcy filing a gimmick. 571 00:27:34,416 --> 00:27:35,817 Yeehaw! 572 00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:37,152 The Texas two-step. 573 00:27:37,185 --> 00:27:39,220 ♪ I will spin that jury round and round ♪ 574 00:27:39,254 --> 00:27:40,855 ♪ Change your name and flee the town. ♪ 575 00:27:40,889 --> 00:27:45,060 (vocalizing) 576 00:27:45,093 --> 00:27:47,228 Do I get a record deal? 577 00:27:47,262 --> 00:27:48,730 This is insane, people. 578 00:27:48,763 --> 00:27:51,533 Johnson & Johnson is pretty much trying to do 579 00:27:51,566 --> 00:27:54,336 the first thing everyone thinks of 580 00:27:54,369 --> 00:27:55,804 when they get caught, 581 00:27:55,837 --> 00:27:57,839 blame it on their evil identical twin. 582 00:27:57,872 --> 00:27:59,341 I mean, we've all tried it. 583 00:27:59,374 --> 00:28:01,843 The only difference is it somehow actually works 584 00:28:01,876 --> 00:28:03,845 if you're a powerful corporation. 585 00:28:03,878 --> 00:28:06,214 Honestly, I'm-I'm almost impressed. 586 00:28:06,247 --> 00:28:08,984 I just wish they put as much effort into COVID immunity 587 00:28:09,017 --> 00:28:10,919 as they did into their legal immunity. 588 00:28:10,952 --> 00:28:13,421 But, look, as-as crazy as this is, 589 00:28:13,455 --> 00:28:15,156 J&J is hardly a trailblazer 590 00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:17,025 when it comes to abusing bankruptcy laws 591 00:28:17,058 --> 00:28:18,326 to get out of trouble. 592 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:20,829 Purdue Pharma has filed for bankruptcy, 593 00:28:20,862 --> 00:28:23,365 as the maker of OxyContin tries to protect itself 594 00:28:23,398 --> 00:28:24,966 from mounting lawsuits. 595 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,168 NEWSWOMAN: Purdue Pharma made billions 596 00:28:27,202 --> 00:28:28,837 off the painkiller OxyContin. 597 00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:32,307 The bankruptcy filing is seen as a way to protect Purdue Pharma 598 00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:34,976 from nearly 3,000 lawsuits. 599 00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:37,078 NEWSMAN: The Boy Scouts of America has filed 600 00:28:37,112 --> 00:28:40,281 for bankruptcy protection after an onslaught of lawsuits 601 00:28:40,315 --> 00:28:43,952 alleging rampant sexual abuse of children for decades. 602 00:28:43,985 --> 00:28:45,954 They may claim that they don't have the ability 603 00:28:45,987 --> 00:28:47,989 to play these-- pay these claims, 604 00:28:48,023 --> 00:28:52,360 but the real reality is that they use the bankruptcy 605 00:28:52,394 --> 00:28:56,064 to really continue to hide and shield themselves 606 00:28:56,097 --> 00:28:59,234 from real liability and forced disclosure. 607 00:28:59,267 --> 00:29:00,735 RATHER: The Roman Catholic Church is one 608 00:29:00,769 --> 00:29:02,904 of the world's wealthiest institutions. 609 00:29:02,937 --> 00:29:05,907 Across the United States, priest abuse victims, 610 00:29:05,940 --> 00:29:10,278 now adults, are lining up to sue their diocese for damages. 611 00:29:10,312 --> 00:29:13,014 But the Church is going to extraordinary lengths 612 00:29:13,048 --> 00:29:14,549 to protect its assets, 613 00:29:14,582 --> 00:29:17,118 and that strategy is bankruptcy. 614 00:29:17,152 --> 00:29:21,456 Chapter 11 was not designed to protect organizations 615 00:29:21,489 --> 00:29:23,458 who've engaged in criminal conduct 616 00:29:23,491 --> 00:29:26,094 or basically protecting criminal conduct. 617 00:29:26,127 --> 00:29:27,929 It was designed to give companies 618 00:29:27,963 --> 00:29:30,899 who made bad business decisions a new start. 619 00:29:30,932 --> 00:29:32,934 Yeah. I'm sorry, people. 620 00:29:32,968 --> 00:29:35,704 Purdue Pharma is not bankrupt. 621 00:29:35,737 --> 00:29:39,741 And the Catholic Church is definitely not bankrupt. 622 00:29:39,774 --> 00:29:41,876 Ain't no bishops rolling into pawn shops, 623 00:29:41,910 --> 00:29:45,513 asking how much they can get for that Michelangelo ceiling. 624 00:29:45,547 --> 00:29:48,950 Now, the Boy Scouts are the ones where I'm like, 625 00:29:48,984 --> 00:29:52,020 "Yeah, you-you might actually be broke." 626 00:29:52,053 --> 00:29:54,556 I mean, these guys are rubbing sticks together to start a fire. 627 00:29:54,589 --> 00:29:57,192 My man, 12-pack of Bic lighters is, like, three bucks. 628 00:29:57,225 --> 00:29:58,526 Get your life together. 629 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,962 But, for real, we know it's all bullshit. Right? 630 00:30:00,996 --> 00:30:03,431 And shielding superrich institutions from punishment 631 00:30:03,465 --> 00:30:04,766 isn't what bankruptcy protections 632 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:06,101 are supposed to be about. 633 00:30:06,134 --> 00:30:08,536 And, fortunately, there's a movement in Congress 634 00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:12,173 to end some of these abuses of bankruptcy laws. 635 00:30:12,207 --> 00:30:13,508 And here to talk about it 636 00:30:13,541 --> 00:30:16,211 is California Congresswoman Katie Porter. 637 00:30:16,244 --> 00:30:19,614 Representative Porter, welcome to The Daily Show. 638 00:30:19,648 --> 00:30:20,949 Thank you so much. 639 00:30:20,982 --> 00:30:22,984 Let's jump straight into the issue at hand. 640 00:30:23,018 --> 00:30:25,720 I-I didn't know this before I was reading up on this issue, 641 00:30:25,754 --> 00:30:28,490 but you taught bankruptcy law for years 642 00:30:28,523 --> 00:30:29,958 before joining Congress. 643 00:30:29,991 --> 00:30:32,894 And now, once again, bankruptcy is in the conversation 644 00:30:32,927 --> 00:30:34,362 with Johnson & Johnson. 645 00:30:34,396 --> 00:30:36,998 Them wanting to split off their baby powder company 646 00:30:37,032 --> 00:30:40,135 as a separate entity so that Johnson & Johnson as a whole 647 00:30:40,168 --> 00:30:41,803 can't be held liable for what happened 648 00:30:41,836 --> 00:30:43,605 to so many people out there. 649 00:30:43,638 --> 00:30:46,174 From a bankruptcy expert's point of view, 650 00:30:46,207 --> 00:30:47,909 as somebody who studied it and taught it, 651 00:30:47,942 --> 00:30:50,312 what do you think we're missing in these conversations 652 00:30:50,345 --> 00:30:52,547 when we allow companies to declare bankruptcy 653 00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:55,950 to avoid some sort of, I guess, accountability? 654 00:30:55,984 --> 00:30:58,620 Well, I think this is fundamentally a problem 655 00:30:58,653 --> 00:31:01,022 about preventing corporate abuse. 656 00:31:01,056 --> 00:31:02,924 And bankruptcy's really the tool 657 00:31:02,958 --> 00:31:04,659 that these corporations are using 658 00:31:04,693 --> 00:31:06,661 to avoid liability for the damage 659 00:31:06,695 --> 00:31:08,096 and harms that they caused. 660 00:31:08,129 --> 00:31:11,066 In this case, many, many, many women getting devastating 661 00:31:11,099 --> 00:31:15,136 and deadly cancers from using baby powder laced with asbestos. 662 00:31:15,170 --> 00:31:16,404 Um, but fundamentally, 663 00:31:16,438 --> 00:31:17,939 this isn't really a bankruptcy problem. 664 00:31:17,973 --> 00:31:20,275 It's a larger problem about how do we make sure 665 00:31:20,308 --> 00:31:24,179 that companies that make money are also on the hook 666 00:31:24,212 --> 00:31:26,715 for paying for the harm that they cause along the way. 667 00:31:26,748 --> 00:31:29,117 And that's a problem we see in environmental issues, 668 00:31:29,150 --> 00:31:32,187 with offshore drilling, for example, and oil leaks. 669 00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:34,789 It's a problem that we see with product liability. 670 00:31:34,823 --> 00:31:34,923 Um, and so, this is one more example of it. 671 00:31:35,924 --> 00:31:36,992 Well, that's our show for tonight. 672 00:31:37,092 --> 00:31:38,427 But before we go, please consider supporting 673 00:31:38,527 --> 00:31:40,228 When We All Vote. 674 00:31:40,328 --> 00:31:42,197 It is a national, nonpartisan initiative 675 00:31:42,297 --> 00:31:44,065 to change the culture around voting 676 00:31:44,166 --> 00:31:47,969 and to increase participation in each and every election 677 00:31:48,069 --> 00:31:51,473 by helping to close the race and age voting gap. 678 00:31:51,573 --> 00:31:53,175 If you want to support their work, 679 00:31:53,275 --> 00:31:54,943 then donate at the link below. 680 00:31:55,043 --> 00:31:57,245 Until tomorrow, stay safe out there, 681 00:31:57,345 --> 00:31:59,381 get your vaccine, and remember, 682 00:31:59,481 --> 00:32:01,082 if you are a Democrat who's upset 683 00:32:01,183 --> 00:32:03,952 about the way the election went, remember: 684 00:32:04,052 --> 00:32:07,422 there is always next year, when it's really going to hurt. 685 00:32:07,522 --> 00:32:10,292 Now here it is, Your Moment of Zen. 686 00:32:10,392 --> 00:32:13,428 ♪ ♪