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I went as a...
Did you dress for anything?
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-MAN: No.
-I dressed up as The Weeknd.
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Yeah, and apparently,
I looked so much like him,
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some people thought I was
The Weeknd in the streets.
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Which made no sense to me.
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'Cause why would The Weeknd go
as The Weeknd for Halloween?
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Literally, someone
in the studio was like,
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"The Weeknd! You're The Weeknd!
You're The Weeknd!"
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Then I was like, "No, I'm a guy
dressed as The Weeknd."
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She's like, "I know The Weeknd
when I see him!"
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Then I was like,
"Why would The Weeknd dress
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"as The Weeknd for Halloween?
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"What sense does any of...?
This is Halloween!
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"This is the day
when nobody is the person
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who you think they are."
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"It's The Weekend!
Come, just take our picture!"
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She's like,
"Don't be an asshole, Abel!"
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I was like, "I'm not...
I'm not him. I'm not him."
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Then she's like,
"Just take our picture."
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Then I was like, "Screw you.
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"Yeah, The Weeknd says,
screw you. Idiot.
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That's right. And don't forget
to buy my album."
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ANNOUNCER: Coming to you
from the heart of Times Square
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The Daily Show.
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Tonight,
Biden's European vacation,
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horror films are racist,
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Representative Dan Crenshaw.
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Hey,
what's going on, everybody?
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Welcome to The Daily Show.
I'm Trevor Noah.
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And joining me
for today's headlines
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is my good friend Michael Kosta.
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What's going on, Michael Kosta?
How you doing, man?
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-Did you have a great Halloween?
-I had a great Halloween.
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-Yeah? -You know,
and I'm more proud of the fact
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that I haven't seen
a white person
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post a culturally-insensitive
costume.
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-And it makes me think.
Maybe we learned. -Yeah.
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Maybe we learned not to post,
but maybe, maybe
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Ted Lasso was scooping up a lot
of the white people costumes.
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-I saw a lot of them.
-I saw a lot of them, too.
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And it makes me think
maybe we need more TV shows
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with a white,
male, charismatic lead.
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You know what, my man?
I hear what you're saying.
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That's what I'm saying.
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We need more white men
represented on television
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so that people have more
white men to look up to.
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Look, you said it.
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The other thing
I love about Halloween--
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it just feels like
there's no rules.
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You know, you can walk
around your neighborhood drunk,
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drinking, you see a cop,
they never say anything.
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You don't even know
if that is a cop.
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Maybe that's someone dressed
as a cop.
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Even if you say something
to you,
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you can say, "My costume is
that I'm publicly intoxicated."
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And you're free, you're good.
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-Good to see you, man.
-Oh, man. Yeah, I just got to...
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I just got to commit more crimes
on Halloween.
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-You just made me realize this.
-There's no rules, dude.
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-All right, yeah.
-Yeah, all right.
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Next Halloween-- me and you--
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-we're doing this together.
-Yes. Yeah.
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All right, well,
let's get into the big story
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that's happening today.
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It's all about Joe Biden,
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President of the United States
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and professional
malarkey hunter.
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There are lots of cool perks
to being president, right?
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You get a giant house
with a bowling alley
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and a personal chef.
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You get that free painting
of yourself,
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and best of all, you get
to travel the world for free.
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And right now, Joe Biden
is on one of the biggest trips
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of his presidency so far.
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So, let's find out
how it's all going
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in another installment
of Grandpa's Day Out.
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President Biden's first stop
on his European tour
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was the Vatican City,
the place trip advisor rated
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"Best city to Feel Guilty
for Masturbating In."
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And while Biden was there,
he had a very special meeting
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with a fellow Catholic.
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NEWSMAN: For President Biden,
a day of devotion and diplomacy.
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America's second ever
Roman Catholic president having
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a private audience
with Pope Francis
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with whom he's built
a personal bond,
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giving him a ceremonial
commander coin and a compliment.
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-(laughter)
-(translating)
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So, obviously
a very personal moment
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with a lighthearted one,
as is typical with Joe Biden,
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who ended that meeting today
by saying to the pope,
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"God love ya."
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You know, you've got to give it
to Joe Biden,
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because it took everything
in his power as an old man
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to not make that coin appear
behind the pope's ear.
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What's this, Popey? Aah!
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Here's a coin, kid.
I'll see you next time. Yeah!
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Also, the fact that he said,
"God love ya" to the pope,
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that is the most unnecessary
"God love ya" in history.
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You don't need to say
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He knows God loves him.
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He had dinner with him
last night.
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But I do think that meeting
was cool to see,
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because it's nice that,
even though these two men
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are some of the most powerful
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when it comes down to it,
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they're just a couple
of old guys hanging out,
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showing off
their coin collection,
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talking about alcohol, making
inappropriate ethnic jokes.
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I mean, forget the Vatican,
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these two should
have been meeting in a sauna.
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You know?
And it's adorable how the pope
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acts so happy
to receive that coin.
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You see him, you know,
his house is filled
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with Indiana Jones' wish list.
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He doesn't need to be happy
about a coin. You know?
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Oh, wow,
the coin from the White House,
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I'll keep it right next
to the actual Holy Grail.
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Uh, throw this shit out,
Vincenzo.
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(speaking fake Italian)
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(continues in fake Italian)
...White House.
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(bleep)
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Well, you see, I'm... it seems
like I speak bad Italian.
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But actually, the pope
is actually from Argentina.
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He speaks Spanish.
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So I'm actually doing
a very good pope impression.
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I'm saying
his Italian's not great.
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That's what that is.
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I'm gonna be honest, Kosta,
I think this is a good look
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for Biden, because, I mean,
he's catholic,
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and the pope likes him.
This is a good thing, right?
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I think it's a bad thing.
I think it's a bad sign.
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If you're trying to negotiate
an infrastructure bill
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in the United States, and
in the middle of negotiations
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you got to run
and talk to the pope.
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Hey, Pope, uh, confession:
we're screwed.
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Isn't it great that they
just get called the pope?
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That's your new name when
you become the pope-- the pope.
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His name is Francis.
Everyone calls him the pope.
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It's like
when you work at Denny's.
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Very first day you show up
and the only name tag they have
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is "Josh," you're now Josh.
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I thought that guy was Josh.
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Yeah, exactly.
Everyone thinks it's Josh.
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Also, you know there's
another former pope out there.
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Pope Benedict?
He's just around. He's hanging.
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-He's like the Jay Leno now
of popes. -(laughing)
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He's just fixing cars
in Germany.
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He was a... H-He was a pope.
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And then he's not a pope?
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I'm just saying, no one
ever talks about Benedict.
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-Former... former pope?
-Former pope.
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-Pope. Pope. Pope.
Previous pope? -Previous pope.
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(laughs) All right, now,
after President Biden
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exchanged Irish jokes
with the pope,
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he caught an Uber to Rome
for the G20 summit,
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where he and other world leaders
got down to business.
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And they got...
they got some things done.
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You know, like, um,
they-they agreed
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to create a global minimum
corporate tax rate of 15%,
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which is expected to raise
hundreds of billions of dollars
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until the corporations
find a different loophole
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about five minutes afterwards.
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But when it came
to another priority for the G20,
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tackling climate change...
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Things weren't as successful.
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NEWSMAN: Even the first major
in-person meeting in two years
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couldn't bring world leaders
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on the issue of climate change.
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In the final communiqué,
G20 leaders agreed
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to softer language
on reaching net zero emissions,
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setting a target
of "by or around mid-century."
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Canada's pledge
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Coal was also contentious.
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G20 leaders did agree
to end public financing
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of coal-fired power generation
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but there are no targets
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Damn, G20. Now, that is a flex.
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Did you hear
what they said there?
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Basically,
these leaders were like,
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"No more coal for anyone.
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"Except us.
Now, if you'll excuse me,
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I've got to go home and give
a Pfizer booster to my pet."
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A-And I'm sorry, guys,
but how is climate change
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the most pressing issue
facing humanity,
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but then your plan
is to do something about it
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by, more or less, 2050?
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Like, that's a pretty good sign
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that something
isn't actually gonna get done.
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If somebody says to you,
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"Yeah, yeah,
we should hang out sometime.
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What's your schedule
looking like in 2050?"
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You're never seeing
that person again.
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I don't care
if they're your dad.
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You're never seeing them.
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Not to mention,
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I'm looking at the people
making this pledge.
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Half of them aren't even
gonna be around in 2050.
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That's genius.
When are we fixing this?
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"Uh, how much time
do I have left?
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Yeah, yeah, around then."
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I mean, the bigger problem
is that these steps
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that the countries
have announced
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that they're gonna take,
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they won't actually reduce
carbon emissions enough
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to reach the goals.
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So, basically,
what they've done is said,
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"I want to lose 100 pounds
by the summer,
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"so I'm gonna do
five push-ups a day.
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"And then I don't know.
Maybe I'll get tapeworm?
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We'll-we'll see what happens."
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You know?
It's frustrating, Kosta.
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The thing... You can't say you
want to do something about it
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and then be like,
"Well, in 30 years.
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We'll do something in 30 years."
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I can solve climate change
in ten minutes.
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-You ready? Okay?
-Okay.
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Here's how... Well, they could
solve it in ten minutes.
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Stop having the conference
in a fancy room in Glasgow
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and put the G20 summit
inside of a California wildfire.
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Okay? They'll...
They got two minutes.
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-Let's wrap this thing up.
-Location.
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They don't feel the consequences
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when they're
in an air-conditioned room
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-in Glasgow.
-But, Kos... I like this.
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-That's what I'm saying.
-Locat-Location is everything.
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-Location, location, location.
-Yes.
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I'm the first person
to ever say that.
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-Yeah. (chuckles)
-Anyway...
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Joe Biden wrapped up
Grandpa's Day Out
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by attending the COP26
Climate Conference in Scotland,
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A.K.A.
England's fancy church hat.
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And although "COP26"
sounds like a Bruce Willis movie
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that never actually got made,
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it's actually the most important
annual climate change conference
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in the world.
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Although that doesn't mean
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that it's the most exciting
conference in the world.
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(applause)
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ANNOUNCER: Please welcome
the prime minister of Italy,
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Mario Draghi.
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(chuckles)
I don't know what's worse,
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the fact that he clapped
for a speech that he didn't hear
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or the fact that he fell asleep
when the guy was like,
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"This is the most important
thing..." (snores)
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"...facing humanity..."
(snores)
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"...of all time."
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And-and, look, look, look,
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I know that the haters
are gonna say
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that Biden was falling asleep
during the climate conference.
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But think about it--
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how are we gonna save
the climate?
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Not using energy. That's how.
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What's the one time
you're not using as much energy?
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When you're sleeping.
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So Joe Biden
was just doing his part, yo.
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That's what he was doing.
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And, by the way,
I don't know exactly
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how the chain of command works,
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but when he dozed off
for five seconds,
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I think, technically,
that means Kamala Harris
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was president at that time,
right?
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First woman president, America!
You did it, baby! You did it!
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You see what I did there, Kosta?
It's a joke about-- Kosta!
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-Michael!
-Shoot them, Lindsey Graham!
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Use the guns! Use the guns!
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That's not what
I was talking about.
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I know.
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This guy.
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You know, if you ask me,
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the real hero
of this whole thing was the aide
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who came in and woke Biden up.
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'Cause that was...
that was slick, man.
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That dude should get a coin.
If it wasn't for him,
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Biden might still be sleeping
there now.
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Yeah. He'll just wake up next
week in the middle of, like,
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a furry convention.
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"Ah. I don't know
if I could rub one out
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to a squirrel,
but God love you guys."
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So kudos to that aide
who woke Biden up.
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I mean, people-people
may not actually know this,
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but he's actually part of a new
branch of the federal government
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and they're on the lookout
for recruits.
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♪ ♪
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ANNOUNCER: When
the world's most powerful man
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needs a power nap
at the worst possible time
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and the line
between consciousness and chaos
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is as thin as an eyelid,
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that's when we spring
into action.
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The few,
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the swift,
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the United States
Sleeper Service.
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Join our team and you'll learn
how to take charge
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when the president takes a nap.
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-(alarm) -MAN: Eagle is dozing.
Repeat, Eagle is dozing.
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We are entering
rapid eye movement.
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Goddamn it, get those eyes open.
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-He's about to snore.
-(snoring)
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-(snoring stops)
-(cheering)
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ANNOUNCER: So if you're ready
to throw yourself
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into the line of tired,
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join the United States
Sleeper Service.
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Suck it, Space Force.
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All right, when we come back,
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Roy Wood Jr. will tell us what
makes Black people so scary.
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You don't want to miss it.
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Welcome back to
The Daily Show.
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Now, as you know,
Halloween was last weekend,
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and to help commemorate it
in our own way,
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we turn to Roy Wood Jr.
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for another episode
of CP Time.
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♪ ♪
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Trash. Trash.
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There's no Almond Joys.
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Ah, well, hello there.
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Welcome to CP Time,
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the only show
that's for the culture.
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Today, we'll be discussing
Black horror movies.
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When you think of Black horror,
you think of hits like
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Get Out or this year's remake
of Candyman.
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Which reminds me, speaking
of... speaking of that...
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-(eerie music plays)
-Candyman. Candyman. Candyman.
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Candyman. Candyman!
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-(music stops)
-I knew he wouldn't show up.
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Cheap bastard owed me $50.
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But we wouldn't have
Jordan Peele
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if it weren't for the pioneering
Black horror films
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that today
are mostly forgotten.
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Movies like Son of Ingagi,
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which, in 1940,
became the first horror film
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to feature
an all-Black cast.
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And unlike
A Madea Halloween,
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they were all played
by different people.
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Son of Ingagi
bucked stereotypes
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by showing a Black
middle class family
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battling a monster
in their home,
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paving the way
for the Winslow family
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to do the same thing
against Steve Urkel.
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Ooh! Those suspenders.
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And on top of that,
the scientist in this movie
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is an old Black woman.
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It was like a scary
Hidden Figures.
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Although I have to be honest.
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I found Hidden Figures
to be pretty scary, too.
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All that damn math. Ooh.
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Another major film
in Black horror was 1968's
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Night of the Living Dead,
starring Duane Jones,
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the first Black actor
to play the lead role
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in a mainstream horror hit.
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He's a hero
for most of the movie,
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and then his character ends up
getting shot
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by white folks
who mistake him for a zombie.
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It was a profound lesson
on racism.
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It is the living
who are racist,
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and we should all strive
to be more like the zombies,
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who eat the brains of any race.
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Wait. Is that the lesson?
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Once the 1970s hit
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and Black exploitation films
got big,
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horror movies got
a little bit wild.
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We got movies like
Blacula,
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Blackenstein,
Dr. Black, Mr. Hyde,
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and of course, Abby.
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It was originally titled
The Black-xorcist,
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but they got in trouble
for copying that movie
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where the little white girl
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tinkles
on the living room carpet.
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Then there was Petey Wheatstraw.
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In 1977, Dolemite star
Rudy Ray Moore plays
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a comedian who is killed
by his rivals
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for being too successful.
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Today they would have
just found his old tweets.
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That's how you get rid...
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Anyway, the comedian makes
a deal with the devil
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to come back to life
and get revenge on his killers
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by using
the devil's magic pimp cane.
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Now, the first question is,
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why would the devil have
a pimp cane?
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I do not know.
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I'm gonna be honest with you,
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I don't even know why pimps
have pimp canes.
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Does pimping cause
sprained ankles?
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Is that why pimping ain't easy?
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I don't know.
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This movie raised
many questions for me.
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And finally,
one Black horror character
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that doesn't get the credit
she deserves
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was Rachel True's performance
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as Rochelle
in the 1996 movie The Craft.
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Now, although The Craft
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is not technically
a Black horror movie,
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the sound track
does include a song by Jewel,
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and there's few things
more terrifying
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to Black people than that.
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Ooh, Jewel!
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But Rochelle, Rochelle was
a ground-breaking character
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for Black women in horror.
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She takes revenge
on a racist bully at school
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after becoming a powerful witch.
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Which is literally
Black girl magic.
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Now, this character was
especially important
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because it was the 1990s.
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Teen horror was in the midst
of a renaissance,
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but Black girls didn't
really get to see themselves
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in anything scary.
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All they had was Scary Spice.
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She wasn't even that scary.
Posh was the scary one.
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Always looked like she just got
back from poisoning James Bond.
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Well, that's all the time
we have for today.
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I'm Roy Wood Jr.,
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and this has been CP Time.
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And remember,
we're for the culture.
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I'm going to try this again.
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Candyman!
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Oh, there you are.
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Where's my money, Daniel?
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♪ ♪
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Thank you so much for that, Roy.
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All right, when we come back,
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Republican congressman
Dan Crenshaw
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will be joining me
right here in the studio.
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You don't want to miss it.
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Welcome back to The Daily Show.
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My guest tonight
is Dan Crenshaw,
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Republican congressman
from Texas
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and author of Fortitude.
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He's here to talk about
immigration and border policy,
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climate change
and cancel culture.
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Representative Crenshaw,
welcome to the show.
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Trevor, thanks for...
thanks for having me.
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Oh, thank you for being here.
You... I think you-you might be
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the first Republican lawmaker
we've had on in maybe...
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Or let me say the first
Republican lawmaker we've had on
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who isn't leaving Congress
in maybe, like, over a year.
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-So thank you so much
for being here. -All right. Wow.
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-That's exciting.
-Um...
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I-I was reading up on you,
and there are a few things
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I-I never knew about you
as a person.
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Um, one, 37.
We're both 37 years old.
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-It's a good age.
-Uh, it's a good age. Yeah.
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Um, we've both lived in multiple
countries around the world.
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-Mm-hmm. -And-and when I read,
like, your life story,
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living in I think it was
Ecuador and Colombia,
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I-I couldn't help wondering.
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I was like, I wonder what ideas
you have of America
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that you think have been shaped
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by living in other places.
'Cause I know I have that.
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-Yeah. -You know,
whereas there are some people
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who've only lived in America,
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and they see America
in a certain way.
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What is, like,
something that you think
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has shaped your views on America
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because you've lived
in other countries?
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Well, living in other countries,
it-it's fun.
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I-I love my upbringing.
I plan to go back
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to my 20-year
high school reunion
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in Colombia next year.
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And, uh, it-it shaped me in
a lot of positive ways, I think.
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Um, how does it view... make
my view of America different?
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Um, it certainly makes you
appreciate America in many ways.
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Helps you understand
how other people
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-think about the United States.
-Oh, that's interesting.
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You know? 'Cause I-I was...
I was the only American
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-in my entire grade
throughout high school. -Right.
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'Cause I-I spent all four years
of high school in Bogotá.
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I was the only American
that was there all four years.
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(chuckles): So, uh, I got
a lot of questions as a result,
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and I had to...
I had to defend my country,
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uh, as a result, in ways that I,
frankly, wasn't prepared for.
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-Right.
-So, that-that shaped my view.
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What I like about America
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and I think what we should
embrace as Americans
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is this idea that people
can become America.
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-Uh-huh.
-American.
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00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:28,211
Uh, you can can't become French.
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-Right. Right.
-Right? Y-You can't...
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I'm-I'm not even sure
you can really become German.
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-Right. -Uh,
but you can become an American,
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because the whole point
of being an American
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is that we sort of share
this-this set of ideals,
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this set of history, um,
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this-this creed,
if you will, of Americanism,
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of Western values
that makes us an American,
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and I think
that's a very cool thing.
487
00:19:48,865 --> 00:19:51,301
Yeah, it's an interesting idea,
because America in itself
488
00:19:51,401 --> 00:19:53,203
is an experiment.
You know? It's not something
489
00:19:53,303 --> 00:19:54,738
that's ever been repeated
anywhere else in the world.
490
00:19:54,838 --> 00:19:56,906
I've always been fascinated
by it as a... as a concept.
491
00:19:57,007 --> 00:19:59,843
Um, when I was reading
through your story, though,
492
00:19:59,943 --> 00:20:01,077
I... it made me wonder.
I was like,
493
00:20:01,177 --> 00:20:03,179
"Man, this man probably has
494
00:20:03,213 --> 00:20:05,482
"interesting and nuanced views
on immigration
495
00:20:05,582 --> 00:20:07,183
"that are shaped by ideas
496
00:20:07,284 --> 00:20:09,719
that aren't just formed
in America."
497
00:20:09,819 --> 00:20:11,454
You know? As somebody
who's fluent in Spanish,
498
00:20:11,554 --> 00:20:13,023
as somebody
who's lived in Colombia...
499
00:20:13,189 --> 00:20:15,058
As you said, you're gonna go
back to your 20-year reunion.
500
00:20:15,191 --> 00:20:16,860
You have friends,
you-you have people
501
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,361
you would consider
even almost family
502
00:20:18,461 --> 00:20:20,330
-on that side of the world.
-Mm-hmm.
503
00:20:20,430 --> 00:20:22,265
Let's-let's talk a little bit
about immigration,
504
00:20:22,365 --> 00:20:24,968
because it feels
like America is stuck
505
00:20:25,068 --> 00:20:26,970
in its immigration conversation.
506
00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:29,205
You know?
There is a misconception
507
00:20:29,272 --> 00:20:32,042
about what the problems are,
what causes the problems,
508
00:20:32,142 --> 00:20:33,576
how America can move forward.
509
00:20:33,677 --> 00:20:36,146
As somebody who's lived
in other countries,
510
00:20:36,212 --> 00:20:39,716
some of them which influence
America's immigration story,
511
00:20:39,816 --> 00:20:42,385
what do you think
the problem is?
512
00:20:42,485 --> 00:20:43,687
And then maybe afterwards,
we'll talk
513
00:20:43,787 --> 00:20:45,889
about potential solutions
going forward.
514
00:20:45,989 --> 00:20:49,492
Well, look, I-I view the problem
as illegal immigration.
515
00:20:49,592 --> 00:20:52,329
I'm not sure we have a problem
with legal immigration.
516
00:20:52,429 --> 00:20:53,797
It depends on who you ask,
of course.
517
00:20:53,897 --> 00:20:55,966
I personally don't have a
problem with legal immigration.
518
00:20:56,066 --> 00:20:59,469
Uh, my stepmom
is a legal immigrant.
519
00:20:59,569 --> 00:21:00,971
Uh, immigrated from Peru.
520
00:21:01,071 --> 00:21:03,206
So, you know,
I-I think most Americans
521
00:21:03,306 --> 00:21:04,975
are not anti-immigrant,
522
00:21:05,075 --> 00:21:07,744
-Right. -I-I don't think
we should paint them that way.
523
00:21:07,844 --> 00:21:10,013
But I think the vast majority
of Americans
524
00:21:10,180 --> 00:21:12,048
want our border secured,
you know, and that's the crux
525
00:21:12,182 --> 00:21:13,717
of the debate
that's going on right now.
526
00:21:13,817 --> 00:21:15,385
We have to differentiate
between this conversation
527
00:21:15,485 --> 00:21:18,254
-about ill-illegal immigration
and legal immigration. -Mm-hmm.
528
00:21:18,355 --> 00:21:20,924
-So, wait. Okay, so, uh...
-So, what's the problem
529
00:21:21,024 --> 00:21:22,525
-with illegal immigration?
-No, no, no, no. No, no.
530
00:21:22,626 --> 00:21:24,194
L-Let's talk
about the-the conversation
531
00:21:24,294 --> 00:21:25,295
-in and around that.
-Yeah.
532
00:21:25,395 --> 00:21:26,563
This is what it feels like
to me.
533
00:21:26,663 --> 00:21:27,964
Every few years in America,
534
00:21:28,064 --> 00:21:30,166
the conversation
around the border changes.
535
00:21:30,267 --> 00:21:33,336
-Mm-hmm. -You know? So, uh,
when-when Trump was in office,
536
00:21:33,436 --> 00:21:35,605
people were like, "Oh, yeah,
he's shutting down the border.
537
00:21:35,705 --> 00:21:38,008
"He's locking down the border.
He's closing down the border,
538
00:21:38,141 --> 00:21:39,609
and he's building
a border wall."
539
00:21:39,709 --> 00:21:40,877
Then when Biden's in power,
people are like,
540
00:21:40,977 --> 00:21:42,379
"The borders are wide-open.
The bor..."
541
00:21:42,479 --> 00:21:44,347
It seems like the rhetoric
switches wildly.
542
00:21:44,447 --> 00:21:46,516
-Yeah. -Now, America
has its spikes up and down.
543
00:21:46,616 --> 00:21:49,386
People coming in, people don't.
People come and people don't.
544
00:21:49,486 --> 00:21:50,987
But, like,
you've-you've said this,
545
00:21:51,154 --> 00:21:52,455
and-and that's something
that I... that I appreciate.
546
00:21:52,555 --> 00:21:54,624
You've said we shouldn't be
using extreme rhetoric
547
00:21:54,724 --> 00:21:56,593
-to talk about these problems.
-Yeah.
548
00:21:56,693 --> 00:21:59,462
Like, do you think
the border's wide-open?
549
00:21:59,562 --> 00:22:01,965
Uh, it-it would seem that way
effectively.
550
00:22:02,065 --> 00:22:05,268
So, y-you've had
1.5 million encounters
551
00:22:05,368 --> 00:22:08,038
on the border this year.
That's an absolute record.
552
00:22:08,171 --> 00:22:10,006
Uh, out of that,
hundreds of thousands
553
00:22:10,173 --> 00:22:11,574
have been released
into the Interior.
554
00:22:11,675 --> 00:22:13,877
So, this catch and release idea
that we keep hearing about,
555
00:22:13,977 --> 00:22:15,412
it is effectively true.
556
00:22:15,512 --> 00:22:17,414
Um, and there's
a bunch of reasons for that.
557
00:22:17,514 --> 00:22:19,182
Uh,
there's an incentive structure
558
00:22:19,249 --> 00:22:21,017
that incentivizes people
to bring minors across
559
00:22:21,184 --> 00:22:23,053
because our courts
can't deal with that.
560
00:22:23,186 --> 00:22:24,788
I-I could go into a long history
of why that is
561
00:22:24,888 --> 00:22:26,356
if you'd like me to,
but it gets wonky.
562
00:22:26,456 --> 00:22:28,458
Uh, but the point is
is that's the...
563
00:22:28,558 --> 00:22:30,493
that's the nature
of the problem right now.
564
00:22:30,594 --> 00:22:31,995
-Mm-hmm.
-It's existed since about 2014.
565
00:22:32,128 --> 00:22:33,196
That's why you see these waves.
566
00:22:33,296 --> 00:22:34,598
And, so,
there's certain policies
567
00:22:34,698 --> 00:22:36,466
that can prevent
that incentive structure.
568
00:22:36,566 --> 00:22:38,602
You can keep people in Mexico
while they...
569
00:22:38,702 --> 00:22:40,670
-while they claim
their asylum claim. -Mm-hmm.
570
00:22:40,770 --> 00:22:42,973
You can have people claim asylum
within their home countries.
571
00:22:43,139 --> 00:22:44,841
-Right. -That was part of the
Asylum Cooperative Agreements
572
00:22:44,941 --> 00:22:46,610
we established with
the Northern Triangle countries.
573
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:49,012
So, what Biden did is reverse
all of these policies,
574
00:22:49,145 --> 00:22:50,714
and that's why you're seeing
this incentive structure
575
00:22:50,814 --> 00:22:52,415
change so radically,
'cause people have this idea
576
00:22:52,515 --> 00:22:53,850
that they can come
across the border
577
00:22:53,950 --> 00:22:55,852
and they will get a bus ticket
to wherever they want,
578
00:22:55,952 --> 00:22:58,054
and maybe they show up for the
court date, maybe they don't.
579
00:22:58,154 --> 00:22:59,522
Do you think people keep abreast
580
00:22:59,623 --> 00:23:00,957
with America's laws in that way?
Or do you think...
581
00:23:01,057 --> 00:23:02,258
Like, so, for instance,
with the Haitian immigrants,
582
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,526
you had immigrants
saying they...
583
00:23:03,627 --> 00:23:06,162
"We heard that Biden
would let us in."
584
00:23:06,263 --> 00:23:08,164
And, I mean,
that's not what Biden said.
585
00:23:08,265 --> 00:23:11,001
Do you get what I'm saying?
So, so, is there some sort
586
00:23:11,167 --> 00:23:12,669
of misinformation
that's also going out there,
587
00:23:12,769 --> 00:23:14,204
or do you think people
are just hearing
588
00:23:14,304 --> 00:23:15,872
this-this overwhelming rhetoric
that the borders are wi...
589
00:23:15,972 --> 00:23:17,307
Like, sometimes I wonder
590
00:23:17,407 --> 00:23:19,075
if people saying
the borders are wide-open
591
00:23:19,175 --> 00:23:21,244
is what people might be hearing,
and then they go like,
592
00:23:21,344 --> 00:23:22,479
"Oh, then we should go
to America
593
00:23:22,579 --> 00:23:23,847
'cause they said
the borders are wide-open."
594
00:23:23,947 --> 00:23:25,582
Well, I-I don't think
these immigrants
595
00:23:25,682 --> 00:23:26,916
are watching Fox News,
596
00:23:27,017 --> 00:23:28,351
-and they don't follow me
on Instagram. -(laughs)
597
00:23:28,451 --> 00:23:30,487
-So, I-I...
-You never know.
598
00:23:30,587 --> 00:23:32,589
-(laughs)
-News travels. You never know.
599
00:23:32,689 --> 00:23:34,891
News travels, but-but
that is the point, actually.
600
00:23:34,991 --> 00:23:36,493
And it... And it travels
mostly on social media
601
00:23:36,593 --> 00:23:37,761
and through their networks,
602
00:23:37,861 --> 00:23:39,696
and it's also promulgated
by the drug cartels.
603
00:23:39,796 --> 00:23:41,498
So, the biggest winner
in all of this
604
00:23:41,598 --> 00:23:44,200
is the north, uh,
the north Mexico drug cartels.
605
00:23:44,301 --> 00:23:47,871
-Right, right, right. -They get
maybe $300 to $500 per person
606
00:23:47,971 --> 00:23:49,539
to get somebody
across the border.
607
00:23:49,639 --> 00:23:51,675
-Mm-hmm. -Nobody gets through
that border without them.
608
00:23:51,775 --> 00:23:53,443
They have the best
border security in the world.
609
00:23:53,543 --> 00:23:55,011
Um, so they make millions.
610
00:23:55,145 --> 00:23:56,947
And, by the way,
that's risk-free money, too.
611
00:23:57,047 --> 00:23:58,648
They don't have to be
trafficking drugs anymore.
612
00:23:58,748 --> 00:24:00,550
-Mm-hmm. -You can get caught
trafficking drugs.
613
00:24:00,650 --> 00:24:02,719
Here, they're staying on
the Mexican side and they're...
614
00:24:02,819 --> 00:24:03,887
-making people go over. -Sending
the people across. Right.
615
00:24:03,987 --> 00:24:05,889
So, there's a lot
of human trafficking
616
00:24:05,989 --> 00:24:09,292
that occurs there, too,
so none of this is... is good
617
00:24:09,392 --> 00:24:12,829
in any way. And... and I fail
to see how it's compassionate
618
00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:14,931
to promulgate
those open border policies
619
00:24:15,031 --> 00:24:16,967
when you can disincentivize it
620
00:24:17,067 --> 00:24:18,301
and reduce that kind
of human trafficking
621
00:24:18,401 --> 00:24:20,437
and reduce the money...
the-the money flowing
622
00:24:20,537 --> 00:24:22,539
-to these drug cartels.
-Right, right, right.
623
00:24:22,639 --> 00:24:23,840
It's interesting,
because, you know,
624
00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:25,408
it's not a uniquely
American problem,
625
00:24:25,508 --> 00:24:28,378
and maybe that's something
that I've always struggled with
626
00:24:28,478 --> 00:24:29,779
in seeing these conversations.
627
00:24:29,879 --> 00:24:32,315
Any country that shares a border
with a nation
628
00:24:32,415 --> 00:24:34,517
that is going through turmoil
in some way, shape or form...
629
00:24:34,618 --> 00:24:36,419
-Mm-hmm. -...is going to
experience some sort of influx.
630
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:40,390
That is natural, especially when
one country is doing much better
631
00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:42,158
when it comes to its finances.
632
00:24:42,258 --> 00:24:45,028
So, when you look
at the coming in,
633
00:24:45,128 --> 00:24:47,764
when you look at DACA,
when you look at these programs,
634
00:24:47,864 --> 00:24:49,933
one-- what do you do about the
people who are already here,
635
00:24:50,033 --> 00:24:51,468
who've been here, who've spent
their whole lives here,
636
00:24:51,568 --> 00:24:53,136
-who've grown up here
as children? -Mm-hmm.
637
00:24:53,236 --> 00:24:55,138
Do you think America,
at some point has to say,
638
00:24:55,205 --> 00:24:57,641
"Look the people are here,
it'll cost us a fortune
639
00:24:57,741 --> 00:25:00,143
"to get them out, and for
all intents and purposes,"
640
00:25:00,176 --> 00:25:02,479
as you've said,
"they've become American"?
641
00:25:02,579 --> 00:25:07,150
Yeah. So Republicans have
been... have been pretty willing
642
00:25:07,183 --> 00:25:08,551
-to have a conversation
about DACA. -Mm-hmm.
643
00:25:08,652 --> 00:25:10,720
All we asked is
that you secure the border.
644
00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:13,356
Now, DACA, as defined
by the Obama administration--
645
00:25:13,456 --> 00:25:14,658
see, that's very different
646
00:25:14,758 --> 00:25:16,259
than how they've started
to define it now.
647
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,661
It's important
that people distinguish
648
00:25:17,761 --> 00:25:19,362
these two definitions
because what Democrats have done
649
00:25:19,462 --> 00:25:20,664
in the last two years,
650
00:25:20,764 --> 00:25:22,732
multiple times
has passed the DREAMER Act,
651
00:25:22,832 --> 00:25:24,401
which would completely change
the definition
652
00:25:24,501 --> 00:25:26,403
of DACA recipients
to basically mean
653
00:25:26,503 --> 00:25:28,171
your age doesn't matter,
when you came doesn't matter,
654
00:25:28,204 --> 00:25:29,773
which effectively
means everyone, okay, so, so...
655
00:25:29,873 --> 00:25:32,809
-Yeah. -I understand. So you're
arguing the way Obama
656
00:25:32,909 --> 00:25:34,945
-and his administration... -I'm
very sympathetic to somebody
657
00:25:35,111 --> 00:25:37,213
-who doesn't even speak Spanish
who was brought here... -Right.
658
00:25:37,314 --> 00:25:40,383
...as a child and giving them
some kind of legal security.
659
00:25:40,483 --> 00:25:42,919
Very...
I'm very sympathetic to that.
660
00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:44,921
But when it comes
to broader immigration reforms,
661
00:25:45,021 --> 00:25:46,222
okay, what do you do?
662
00:25:46,323 --> 00:25:47,557
What do you do with the millions
of people here?
663
00:25:47,657 --> 00:25:48,925
It's a very good question.
664
00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:50,660
The first you do is
you have to stop the inflow.
665
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,829
You have to stop the illegal
crossings. I hope we...
666
00:25:52,929 --> 00:25:55,265
I want to get to this point
in America where we all agree
667
00:25:55,365 --> 00:25:56,499
that we should have
zero tolerance
668
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,535
for illegal immigration
primarily because
669
00:25:58,635 --> 00:26:00,270
it cuts in front of the line
of legal immigrants
670
00:26:00,370 --> 00:26:01,771
-who want to do this
the right way. -Mm-hmm.
671
00:26:01,871 --> 00:26:03,139
This is very...
I'm from Houston.
672
00:26:03,239 --> 00:26:04,541
It's the most diverse city
in America.
673
00:26:04,641 --> 00:26:06,242
I don't think a lot of people
know that about Houston.
674
00:26:06,343 --> 00:26:08,878
Um, we talk to legal immigrants
all the time.
675
00:26:08,979 --> 00:26:10,380
They're very frustrated by this.
676
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,382
Again, my stepmother is
a legal immigrant. They feel...
677
00:26:12,482 --> 00:26:13,683
'Cause they feel like
people are cutting the line.
678
00:26:13,783 --> 00:26:15,151
They feel like people
are cutting the line.
679
00:26:15,251 --> 00:26:16,419
They feel like an injustice is
incurring against them,
680
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:17,754
and I think they're right.
681
00:26:17,854 --> 00:26:19,155
Um, just because
there's a long line doesn't mean
682
00:26:19,222 --> 00:26:20,390
you get to cut it.
And by the way,
683
00:26:20,490 --> 00:26:21,891
there will always be
a long line.
684
00:26:21,992 --> 00:26:23,560
For this country, there will
always be the massive line.
685
00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:24,894
If you doubled the number
of legal immigrants
686
00:26:24,995 --> 00:26:26,896
we have next year,
tripled it, quadrupled it,
687
00:26:26,997 --> 00:26:28,365
they'd still be a massive line.
688
00:26:28,465 --> 00:26:31,167
-But-but America's not-not
doing that. -No, we're not.
689
00:26:31,268 --> 00:26:33,103
That's one of the things
I've been intrigued by is, um,
690
00:26:33,203 --> 00:26:35,538
you know, when you talk
to some of the architects
691
00:26:35,639 --> 00:26:37,173
of America's original
immigration policy,
692
00:26:37,274 --> 00:26:40,110
they have said that
America hasn't done a good job
693
00:26:40,176 --> 00:26:42,712
-of adjusting those numbers
of who comes in and how. -Yeah.
694
00:26:42,812 --> 00:26:44,714
And, I mean,
we see this in businesses,
695
00:26:44,814 --> 00:26:46,216
we see this with farming,
we see...
696
00:26:46,316 --> 00:26:47,751
You see them saying,
farmers saying...
697
00:26:47,851 --> 00:26:49,419
-And it's an honest debate to be
had there. Yup. -Yeah, yeah.
698
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:51,254
Yeah, people say like, "We don't
have the workers. We need..."
699
00:26:51,354 --> 00:26:52,822
-Yup. -Any country needs
a steady flow of immigration.
700
00:26:52,922 --> 00:26:54,824
It feels like, on that side,
701
00:26:54,924 --> 00:26:56,459
America hasn't done
a particularly good job
702
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,696
of updating how many people
it actually needs to come in.
703
00:26:59,796 --> 00:27:01,197
Fair. And I think we can debate
704
00:27:01,298 --> 00:27:02,899
-which way those numbers
should go. -Right, right, right.
705
00:27:02,999 --> 00:27:04,801
Maybe it should depend
on employment numbers
706
00:27:04,901 --> 00:27:06,336
here in this country,
707
00:27:06,436 --> 00:27:08,638
-maybe it should depend
on a number of factors. -Mm-hmm.
708
00:27:08,738 --> 00:27:10,307
We want
to have those conversations.
709
00:27:10,407 --> 00:27:11,775
And-and 'cause right then,
we're talking
710
00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:13,276
about changing things
on the margin
711
00:27:13,376 --> 00:27:14,611
-for illegal immigration.
-Right, right.
712
00:27:14,711 --> 00:27:15,912
I think those are worthy debates
to have.
713
00:27:16,012 --> 00:27:17,981
Let's talk a little bit about
714
00:27:18,148 --> 00:27:19,449
some of the books
you've written.
715
00:27:19,549 --> 00:27:22,585
Um, you know,
you-you speak your mind.
716
00:27:22,686 --> 00:27:26,156
You are, I think, a Republican
who presents themselves
717
00:27:26,256 --> 00:27:28,058
as somebody who's willing
to have discourse with people.
718
00:27:28,158 --> 00:27:29,592
I mean, you're here with me,
you know?
719
00:27:29,693 --> 00:27:33,196
You've always said, people need
to avoid extreme rhetoric.
720
00:27:33,296 --> 00:27:35,465
And in some of your books,
you know, I'll paraphrase,
721
00:27:35,565 --> 00:27:38,168
and forgive me
if I don't phrase it correctly,
722
00:27:38,268 --> 00:27:40,570
but one of the lines that
stuck out to me is you said,
723
00:27:40,670 --> 00:27:44,040
um, "You know, we have to
be careful not to offend people.
724
00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:45,575
"We shouldn't try to go out
of our way
725
00:27:45,675 --> 00:27:47,510
-to offend people
as human beings." -Mm-hmm.
726
00:27:47,611 --> 00:27:49,980
"But at the same time, we can
also develop a lot of strength
727
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,617
-by not being offended
by everything." -Mm-hmm. Right.
728
00:27:53,717 --> 00:27:56,519
In and around the culture
of what people want
729
00:27:56,620 --> 00:27:58,088
-to call cancel culture...
-Mm-hmm.
730
00:27:58,188 --> 00:27:59,823
You know, people go,
Woke this and woke that,
731
00:27:59,923 --> 00:28:01,291
and cancel culture.
732
00:28:01,391 --> 00:28:03,893
It seems like
you're commenting on this,
733
00:28:03,994 --> 00:28:06,096
but I would love
to know what your opinion
734
00:28:06,196 --> 00:28:07,697
of cancel culture is.
735
00:28:07,797 --> 00:28:09,833
-Yeah. -First of all, do you
think it's a real thing?
736
00:28:09,933 --> 00:28:11,768
And second of all, what do
you think it actually means?
737
00:28:11,868 --> 00:28:14,070
It means a couple
of different things.
738
00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:17,307
So, cancel culture,
in modern times, um,
739
00:28:17,407 --> 00:28:20,110
it can mean... it can mean
refusing to forgive someone
740
00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:22,245
-for what was clearly a mistake.
-Okay.
741
00:28:22,345 --> 00:28:24,114
Okay. And I think, in my story
of cancel culture,
742
00:28:24,214 --> 00:28:26,883
going on SNL,
that's sort of what that was.
743
00:28:26,983 --> 00:28:29,286
Right, 'cause there's a world
where what Pete Davidson said...
744
00:28:29,386 --> 00:28:30,754
-Right. Right.
-...he didn't quite mean it.
745
00:28:30,854 --> 00:28:32,689
He didn't quite mean it
as badly
746
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:34,958
as people might have
interpreted it.
747
00:28:35,058 --> 00:28:36,660
-Now, if they did mean it,
it's a different story. -Right.
748
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,628
Okay. Now you have
to deal with that.
749
00:28:38,728 --> 00:28:41,731
But when somebody takes
an old Tweet or whatever it is--
750
00:28:41,831 --> 00:28:44,434
and you see this constantly--
um, we have to ask ourselves,
751
00:28:44,534 --> 00:28:46,937
"Is that fair? Is there really
no forgiveness in our society?"
752
00:28:47,037 --> 00:28:49,239
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -"Is there
no redemption allowed
753
00:28:49,339 --> 00:28:50,674
in our society?"
So that's one aspect
754
00:28:50,774 --> 00:28:52,542
of cancel culture as I see it.
755
00:28:52,642 --> 00:28:54,444
Um, another aspect,
which I think is
756
00:28:54,544 --> 00:28:57,814
what probably right wingers
like a lot less is... is this
757
00:28:57,914 --> 00:29:02,018
making traditional and normal
things taboo all of a sudden.
758
00:29:02,185 --> 00:29:04,754
-Such as? -So this gets into,
okay, we need
759
00:29:04,854 --> 00:29:06,790
to cancel Aunt Jemima, right?
760
00:29:06,890 --> 00:29:08,258
We need to cancel PAW Patrol.
761
00:29:08,358 --> 00:29:10,026
These things that didn't offend
anybody five seconds ago
762
00:29:10,193 --> 00:29:11,261
-are now deeply offensive...
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
763
00:29:11,361 --> 00:29:12,629
...and need to be canceled.
764
00:29:12,729 --> 00:29:14,197
-I think that's what
drives people crazy. -Right.
765
00:29:14,264 --> 00:29:17,434
But some things did offend
people, and don't get me wrong.
766
00:29:17,534 --> 00:29:21,237
Like PAW Patrol, and I think
some of the things are...
767
00:29:21,338 --> 00:29:23,206
-It can go too far.
-Yeah. No, no, no. I think...
768
00:29:23,273 --> 00:29:24,608
I think there are combinations.
769
00:29:24,708 --> 00:29:26,009
Sometimes I think
what happens is,
770
00:29:26,109 --> 00:29:29,679
there are people online
who just chime in.
771
00:29:29,779 --> 00:29:31,781
-Yeah. -They're not really
invested, they just chime in.
772
00:29:31,881 --> 00:29:34,150
-Right. -Then the algorithms
online go like,
773
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:35,585
"Oh, it's become a thing,"
and it wasn't really a thing.
774
00:29:35,685 --> 00:29:36,953
-Yeah. It's trending. Yeah.
-Yeah, it's trending.
775
00:29:37,053 --> 00:29:38,388
Then it becomes a thing.
776
00:29:38,488 --> 00:29:39,723
Then the media outlets
jump on it, and they go like,
777
00:29:39,823 --> 00:29:41,057
"They're trying to cancel."
778
00:29:41,157 --> 00:29:42,325
Then Fox will come
from one side, "They cancelled."
779
00:29:42,425 --> 00:29:44,027
Then MSNBC comes
from the other side.
780
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,795
But a lot of the time
I find it's people
781
00:29:45,895 --> 00:29:47,797
who are just either
criticizing.
782
00:29:47,897 --> 00:29:49,266
Sometimes they're just
roasting something.
783
00:29:49,366 --> 00:29:52,002
Sometimes they're just
making jokes and jumping on.
784
00:29:52,168 --> 00:29:54,237
I feel like...
I feel like
785
00:29:54,337 --> 00:29:56,873
there's this weird attitude
where now we have...
786
00:29:56,973 --> 00:29:59,576
we have lost our ability
to separate canceling
787
00:29:59,676 --> 00:30:02,479
from criticism, from critique,
788
00:30:02,579 --> 00:30:04,247
-from accountability, even.
-Yeah. Yes.
789
00:30:04,347 --> 00:30:06,449
-Do you know... do you get
what I'm saying? -I do get
790
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:07,984
what you're saying, and, um,
791
00:30:08,084 --> 00:30:09,986
and we do have to have
that nuanced conversation.
792
00:30:10,086 --> 00:30:11,588
That's why I tried
to define "cancel culture"
793
00:30:11,688 --> 00:30:13,056
the way I defined it.
794
00:30:13,189 --> 00:30:15,292
I did not define it as everybody
jumping on somebody.
795
00:30:15,392 --> 00:30:16,893
-Right. -If you say something
totally atrocious,
796
00:30:16,993 --> 00:30:18,328
-maybe you deserve
to be jumped on. -Oh, okay.
797
00:30:18,428 --> 00:30:20,196
-Maybe you deserve
to be piled on. -Okay.
798
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:22,699
You know, and we have...
But... but did what...?
799
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:24,067
Is what you just said
800
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,902
-what everybody's been saying
for years? -Right.
801
00:30:26,002 --> 00:30:28,305
I mean, was it really worth
piling on you for this?
802
00:30:28,405 --> 00:30:30,507
And is it really worth kicking
you out of society forever?
803
00:30:30,607 --> 00:30:32,442
That's why I say,
it's the changing of taboos.
804
00:30:32,542 --> 00:30:34,010
That really is
what we're talking about
805
00:30:34,144 --> 00:30:35,345
-with cancel culture.
-Mm-hmm.
806
00:30:35,445 --> 00:30:36,813
And I totally agree with you.
807
00:30:36,913 --> 00:30:38,048
I think a lot of people
at corporations, when they...
808
00:30:38,148 --> 00:30:39,816
'Cause...
because I agree with you
809
00:30:39,916 --> 00:30:42,352
that a lot of times you see a
bunch of people yelling online.
810
00:30:42,452 --> 00:30:44,354
-To me and you, that doesn't
mean much to us. -Right.
811
00:30:44,454 --> 00:30:45,822
Because we put it
into perspective.
812
00:30:45,922 --> 00:30:47,958
We're used
to large amounts of people.
813
00:30:48,058 --> 00:30:49,225
I say, "Well, a thousand people
814
00:30:49,326 --> 00:30:50,560
"said something really mean
about me,
815
00:30:50,660 --> 00:30:51,861
but it's only a thousand."
816
00:30:51,962 --> 00:30:53,229
-Like...
-Right.
817
00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:54,631
You know, but some people are,
like, "Oh, my God.
818
00:30:54,731 --> 00:30:56,199
-That's the end of my life."
-Right, right, right.
819
00:30:56,299 --> 00:30:57,667
And a corporate CEO
oftentimes, too.
820
00:30:57,767 --> 00:30:59,069
-"Well, we've got to pull
that product." -Yes. Right.
821
00:30:59,169 --> 00:31:00,971
'Cause a thousand angry people
on Twitter said so.
822
00:31:01,071 --> 00:31:02,939
And I encourage them
to stand their ground,
823
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:04,774
because they're always rewarded
for not giving in
824
00:31:04,874 --> 00:31:07,544
to some of these silly
cancel culture initiatives.
825
00:31:07,644 --> 00:31:10,246
It feels like, for some people,
826
00:31:10,347 --> 00:31:13,850
Republicans are now trying
to cancel books in schools.
827
00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:16,086
You know, Texas,
I mean, your home state,
828
00:31:16,186 --> 00:31:18,088
is having this fight
about Critical Race Theory.
829
00:31:18,188 --> 00:31:20,023
You know, some schools
who didn't even have
830
00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:21,291
Critical Race Theory
are fighting
831
00:31:21,391 --> 00:31:22,692
about Critical Race Theory.
832
00:31:22,792 --> 00:31:24,561
People are confused
about what it is or isn't.
833
00:31:24,661 --> 00:31:26,563
You know, people are saying we
shouldn't teach certain things,
834
00:31:26,663 --> 00:31:28,565
some books should be kicked out.
835
00:31:28,665 --> 00:31:30,567
It's confusing because
it doesn't seem like everybody
836
00:31:30,667 --> 00:31:32,702
has the same definition
for what the argument is.
837
00:31:32,802 --> 00:31:35,839
I do know that you
have been outspoken on this.
838
00:31:35,939 --> 00:31:37,807
From your perspective,
I would love to know
839
00:31:37,907 --> 00:31:40,810
what you think is going wrong
in schools
840
00:31:40,910 --> 00:31:43,380
and why you think certain things
should or shouldn't be taught.
841
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,515
Or, like, and I don't want
to put words in your mouth,
842
00:31:45,615 --> 00:31:48,051
-so I'd love to know
from you directly. -Yeah.
843
00:31:48,151 --> 00:31:50,186
So, take the Texas example--
I'm not a state legislature,
844
00:31:50,287 --> 00:31:52,322
so I can't speak
in too much detail,
845
00:31:52,422 --> 00:31:54,658
but effectively, yes,
they did ban CRT in schools.
846
00:31:54,758 --> 00:31:57,627
What they also did
is increase, um,
847
00:31:57,727 --> 00:31:59,529
increase teaching about slavery,
848
00:31:59,629 --> 00:32:01,798
increase teaching
about Jim Crow laws,
849
00:32:01,898 --> 00:32:04,267
so, 'cause a lot of people say,
who support CRT,
850
00:32:04,367 --> 00:32:05,902
say, "Look,
we're just teaching history."
851
00:32:06,002 --> 00:32:07,904
And we say,
"No, that's not what CRT is."
852
00:32:08,004 --> 00:32:09,940
I think CRT is
a misinterpretation of history,
853
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,175
and it leads
to bad historical documents,
854
00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:13,510
like the 1619 Project,
855
00:32:13,610 --> 00:32:16,046
which a bunch of historians
had to go back and debunk.
856
00:32:16,179 --> 00:32:19,716
-Right. -Okay? So, CRT
is a narrative, it's a theory,
857
00:32:19,816 --> 00:32:21,851
Critical Race Theory,
and it basically says
858
00:32:21,952 --> 00:32:24,187
that you should view
institutions and society
859
00:32:24,220 --> 00:32:26,022
through the lens of race,
primarily.
860
00:32:26,189 --> 00:32:28,391
Or rather that,
if I understand correctly,
861
00:32:28,491 --> 00:32:31,728
or rather you should acknowledge
that race played a major role
862
00:32:31,828 --> 00:32:34,130
in the definition of some
of those structures, I think.
863
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:36,800
-And I think I can acknowledge
that, what you just said, -Okay.
864
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:38,602
I can certainly...
Are there reverberations
865
00:32:38,702 --> 00:32:41,137
from past discrimination
in modern society?
866
00:32:41,237 --> 00:32:43,206
-Yes. -We can have an honest
conversation about that.
867
00:32:43,306 --> 00:32:45,809
But what Critical Race Theory
is often define--
868
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:47,944
not often,
it always is defined this,
869
00:32:48,044 --> 00:32:50,614
anytime I look into this and the
writers of Critical Race Theory,
870
00:32:50,714 --> 00:32:52,616
what really strikes me
as odd about it,
871
00:32:52,716 --> 00:32:54,484
and I don't understand
why the left defends it,
872
00:32:54,584 --> 00:32:57,153
because it seeks to challenge
the liberal order--
873
00:32:57,187 --> 00:32:59,022
and it says this very clearly--
874
00:32:59,155 --> 00:33:02,759
it seeks to challenge, um,
enlightenment rationality,
875
00:33:02,859 --> 00:33:05,595
it seeks to challenge
neutral justice,
876
00:33:05,695 --> 00:33:07,964
-neutral application of the law.
-Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
877
00:33:08,064 --> 00:33:10,934
It goes from this...
it goes from this, um,
878
00:33:11,034 --> 00:33:15,272
Ta-Nehisi Coates ideology
that in order to fix
879
00:33:15,372 --> 00:33:17,707
past discrimination there
must be current discrimination.
880
00:33:17,807 --> 00:33:20,377
Ooh, I do not... no,
I don't know that he said that.
881
00:33:20,477 --> 00:33:23,179
Ta-Nehisi Coates? I don't
believe that he's ever said...
882
00:33:23,246 --> 00:33:25,181
-Ibram X. Kendi. Ibram X. Kendi.
-Yeah, okay.
883
00:33:25,215 --> 00:33:27,083
-Sorry. Ibram X. Kendi.
Ibram X. Kendi. -Because I...
884
00:33:27,183 --> 00:33:29,386
-I still don't even know...
-He did.
885
00:33:29,486 --> 00:33:31,454
-That I'm 100% sure of.
-But not talking about...
886
00:33:31,554 --> 00:33:33,490
But let's talk about...
So this is the idea
887
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:36,359
that I think, going back
to the schools thing, rather,
888
00:33:36,459 --> 00:33:38,461
is... so you're saying
you're not against them
889
00:33:38,561 --> 00:33:40,730
-teaching slavery in schools.
-Of course not.
890
00:33:40,830 --> 00:33:42,532
-I learned about it ad nauseam
when I was a kid. -Right.
891
00:33:42,632 --> 00:33:44,768
So, now,
when talking about that,
892
00:33:44,868 --> 00:33:46,736
or when talking
about what Jim Crow was,
893
00:33:46,836 --> 00:33:48,271
you're not against them
explaining
894
00:33:48,371 --> 00:33:51,341
-that this was explicitly tied
to race? -Of course not.
895
00:33:51,441 --> 00:33:53,710
Look, 'cause you've made
this argument many times, right?
896
00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:55,812
Redlining in the past
might have...
897
00:33:55,912 --> 00:33:59,149
-can affect how neighborhoods
today are segregated. -Yes.
898
00:33:59,215 --> 00:34:01,584
-Yes, right. -Of course we
can see the connection there.
899
00:34:01,685 --> 00:34:03,887
I don't think there's
more to the story than that,
900
00:34:03,987 --> 00:34:06,423
-but we get to learn about that.
-So do you think maybe, then,
901
00:34:06,523 --> 00:34:08,658
it's just a branding thing,
then?
902
00:34:08,758 --> 00:34:12,162
Is this like an Obamacare,
Affordable Care Act situation?
903
00:34:12,195 --> 00:34:14,164
-Is that what we're dealing with
here? -No, I don't.
904
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:16,166
Because, I mean,
if you really look
905
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:17,734
at the literature
surrounding CRT,
906
00:34:17,834 --> 00:34:19,903
I think it's very toxic,
and I think it does teach...
907
00:34:20,003 --> 00:34:21,838
I also think
it's counterproductive.
908
00:34:21,938 --> 00:34:23,440
But there are schools
that have had these fights,
909
00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:24,841
and they don't have CRT.
910
00:34:24,941 --> 00:34:26,343
Literally,
there are school boards
911
00:34:26,443 --> 00:34:27,777
where people are fighting
about CRT,
912
00:34:27,877 --> 00:34:29,245
and they have no CRT curriculum.
913
00:34:29,346 --> 00:34:31,114
And then now what they're doing
is they're getting rid
914
00:34:31,181 --> 00:34:32,549
-Yeah. -of other books by,
like, Toni Morrison.
915
00:34:32,649 --> 00:34:33,850
They're going like, "These..."
916
00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:35,285
And books that have been
in the schools, ironically.
917
00:34:35,385 --> 00:34:36,753
Well, let's look
at a recent example,
918
00:34:36,853 --> 00:34:38,254
'cause there's
all this fanfare going on
919
00:34:38,355 --> 00:34:39,789
and controversy going on
in Virginia.
920
00:34:39,889 --> 00:34:41,257
We've got a governor's race
coming up,
921
00:34:41,358 --> 00:34:42,592
and this is at the crux of it,
right?
922
00:34:42,692 --> 00:34:44,227
-What's being taught in schools.
-Yes, yes.
923
00:34:44,327 --> 00:34:45,762
And so,
has CRT been promulgated
924
00:34:45,862 --> 00:34:47,397
at the schools,
and the answer is yes.
925
00:34:47,497 --> 00:34:50,900
I mean, there was directives
from this current administration
926
00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:53,203
in Virginia that says: you
will teach Critical Race Theory.
927
00:34:53,303 --> 00:34:55,672
So it's absolutely
infiltrating schools.
928
00:34:55,772 --> 00:34:57,574
Oftentimes,
I think you're right
929
00:34:57,674 --> 00:34:59,242
that there is not a class
in high school
930
00:34:59,342 --> 00:35:01,278
-called Critical Race Theory,
-Mm-hmm.
931
00:35:01,378 --> 00:35:03,246
but it does infuse,
the teachings of it do infuse
932
00:35:03,346 --> 00:35:05,215
something like diversity
and inclusion training,
933
00:35:05,315 --> 00:35:06,283
and who would be against
934
00:35:06,383 --> 00:35:07,751
diversity
and inclusion training?
935
00:35:07,851 --> 00:35:09,052
But I would be against it
936
00:35:09,152 --> 00:35:11,221
if you're teaching white
students that they're evil.
937
00:35:11,321 --> 00:35:13,156
When a child
has to come home and say,
938
00:35:13,223 --> 00:35:15,025
"Mom, am I evil
because I'm white?"
939
00:35:15,158 --> 00:35:17,360
Or a Black student has to say,
"Am I disempowered?
940
00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:19,829
"Am I automatically disempowered
and at a disadvantage
941
00:35:19,930 --> 00:35:22,198
because I'm Black?"
That's bad.
942
00:35:22,299 --> 00:35:24,801
You're setting that
Black student up for, um,
943
00:35:24,901 --> 00:35:27,737
for, basically, to be imprisoned
by the sense of despair
944
00:35:27,837 --> 00:35:29,773
for the rest of their life
and I don't see
945
00:35:29,873 --> 00:35:32,208
why you would start
somebody's life off that way.
946
00:35:32,309 --> 00:35:35,111
This goes to
a certain Republican ideology--
947
00:35:35,211 --> 00:35:38,748
and we'll move on after this--
um, where I feel
948
00:35:38,848 --> 00:35:42,118
there's a difference,
I feel, between...
949
00:35:42,218 --> 00:35:44,421
telling somebody where they are
950
00:35:44,521 --> 00:35:46,656
or what... what things...
951
00:35:46,756 --> 00:35:48,825
-what obstacles they may face,
-Mm-hmm.
952
00:35:48,925 --> 00:35:50,160
and victim mentality.
953
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:51,962
And I think there's
a difference between the two,
954
00:35:52,128 --> 00:35:54,698
because I don't think it
is wrong to tell a Black child:
955
00:35:54,798 --> 00:35:57,400
hey, we live in this
neighborhood because of this.
956
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:00,470
Your grandfather's house was
taken away in Hermosa Beach,
957
00:36:00,570 --> 00:36:02,739
or wherever, Manhattan Beach,
or wherever they lived.
958
00:36:02,839 --> 00:36:05,642
We had a business
that we lost in this place.
959
00:36:05,742 --> 00:36:07,911
You know, Tulsa, Oklahoma,
whatever these things are.
960
00:36:08,011 --> 00:36:09,946
I think it is valid
to have those conversations
961
00:36:10,046 --> 00:36:11,848
the same way America
has these conversations
962
00:36:11,948 --> 00:36:13,984
about the British and, like,
this is how things came to be.
963
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:15,986
The same way Jewish people
who have conversations,
964
00:36:16,152 --> 00:36:18,588
like: Hey, your grandparents
got kicked out of Poland.
965
00:36:18,688 --> 00:36:21,291
That's why we're here today.
And so I don't think
966
00:36:21,391 --> 00:36:24,461
that that necessarily
is creating a victim mentality.
967
00:36:24,561 --> 00:36:26,296
I think it's...
I think it's crucial to say...
968
00:36:26,396 --> 00:36:28,298
-It doesn't have to.
-Right. But I think...
969
00:36:28,398 --> 00:36:30,333
I think the one can exist
without the other.
970
00:36:30,433 --> 00:36:32,269
They can, you just have
to be careful about it,
971
00:36:32,369 --> 00:36:34,704
and I think CRT forces...
forces that pendulum
972
00:36:34,804 --> 00:36:36,806
to swing rather far
to the victimization mentality.
973
00:36:36,906 --> 00:36:38,875
Okay. I see what you're saying.
But you're saying
974
00:36:38,975 --> 00:36:40,176
you're not against
the conversations.
975
00:36:40,277 --> 00:36:41,811
It's just how the framing
of the conversation...
976
00:36:41,911 --> 00:36:43,780
I don't think the conversations
are threatening.
977
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,283
Let's talk a little bit,
before I let you go, about COP.
978
00:36:46,383 --> 00:36:48,551
-Yes.
-You're heading out to COP26.
979
00:36:48,652 --> 00:36:50,253
A lot of people
will be surprised to hear this.
980
00:36:50,353 --> 00:36:51,588
They're going like,
"Dan Crenshaw,
981
00:36:51,688 --> 00:36:52,989
what are you doing at COP?
982
00:36:53,123 --> 00:36:54,557
This is
a climate change meeting."
983
00:36:54,658 --> 00:36:56,393
Um, But you're one
of the Republicans who said:
984
00:36:56,493 --> 00:36:58,361
No, we must have conversations
about climate change
985
00:36:58,461 --> 00:36:59,796
and what we're gonna do
about it. You know,
986
00:36:59,896 --> 00:37:01,831
I know, previously, in 2018,
I think it was on Facebook,
987
00:37:01,932 --> 00:37:03,934
you had this video
where you said the science
988
00:37:04,034 --> 00:37:06,536
hasn't been settled,
the temperatures haven't risen,
989
00:37:06,636 --> 00:37:08,338
and, you know, Hurricane Harvey,
990
00:37:08,438 --> 00:37:10,173
the effects can't be tied
to climate change.
991
00:37:10,273 --> 00:37:13,677
I believe your views
have evolved in that time,
992
00:37:13,777 --> 00:37:16,046
and I'd love to know what
your ideas are going forward
993
00:37:16,146 --> 00:37:18,148
about what you think America
needs to do...
994
00:37:18,181 --> 00:37:20,317
I don't think I ever said
any of those things in a video.
995
00:37:20,417 --> 00:37:22,152
-On Facebook?
-No.
996
00:37:22,185 --> 00:37:25,422
I hope I'm wrong. No,
I-I genuinely hope I'm wrong.
997
00:37:25,522 --> 00:37:27,857
-I would have never claimed...
-Could be fake news.
998
00:37:27,958 --> 00:37:29,726
And I'm glad you're here, then.
999
00:37:29,826 --> 00:37:32,996
So, I've always... this
has always been my position.
1000
00:37:33,096 --> 00:37:34,798
-Okay.
-Um, is...
1001
00:37:34,898 --> 00:37:37,033
is, look,
climate change is real.
1002
00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:38,935
There's a... there's a...
1003
00:37:39,035 --> 00:37:41,037
-obviously a human element
to that, -Mm-hmm.
1004
00:37:41,137 --> 00:37:43,106
and we need
to take it seriously.
1005
00:37:43,206 --> 00:37:46,209
Any... any science,
any data that I will cite
1006
00:37:46,309 --> 00:37:49,479
-in this conversation will be
from the UN IPCC. -Right.
1007
00:37:49,579 --> 00:37:51,781
-The gold standard. Yeah.
-The UN climate report.
1008
00:37:51,881 --> 00:37:55,619
Um, what I point out, uh,
in many of these cases,
1009
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,654
and maybe what I
was referring to in that video,
1010
00:37:57,754 --> 00:37:59,289
is, something like
Hurricane Harvey,
1011
00:37:59,389 --> 00:38:01,024
there is no serious scientist
that would attribute
1012
00:38:01,124 --> 00:38:02,993
a single weather event
to a trend,
1013
00:38:03,093 --> 00:38:05,095
-Right. -It would be--
That wouldn't be science.
1014
00:38:05,195 --> 00:38:06,963
That would just be conjecture.
1015
00:38:07,063 --> 00:38:09,099
Um, that's probably what
I was referring to in this video
1016
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:10,967
that must have been
from a very long time ago.
1017
00:38:11,067 --> 00:38:13,103
Um, but I would never suggest
that-that temperatures
1018
00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:16,206
-haven't necessarily risen.
Of course they have. -Got it.
1019
00:38:16,306 --> 00:38:18,308
Um, and they'll continue
to rise, to an extent.
1020
00:38:18,408 --> 00:38:21,344
Um, so... it's a problem.
1021
00:38:21,444 --> 00:38:23,880
There's going to be a cost
associated with the problem.
1022
00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:25,348
Uh, it's not quite
what the alarmists say it is,
1023
00:38:25,448 --> 00:38:27,250
and we can-- we can quibble
with that.
1024
00:38:27,350 --> 00:38:30,153
But the real conversation
has to be about what solutions
1025
00:38:30,253 --> 00:38:31,488
-we're actually in favor of.
Okay? -That's what everyone's
1026
00:38:31,588 --> 00:38:33,890
-fighting about. Yeah.
-And it seems to me that, look,
1027
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:35,458
if you're a Green New Dealer,
1028
00:38:35,558 --> 00:38:37,360
you believe that the only
solutions are solar and wind.
1029
00:38:37,460 --> 00:38:39,663
-You have to electrify the grid
completely. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
1030
00:38:39,763 --> 00:38:40,931
I think that's nonsense.
1031
00:38:41,031 --> 00:38:42,432
Um, I'm not against solar
and wind,
1032
00:38:42,532 --> 00:38:43,600
but I don't think
they should relieve--
1033
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:45,368
they should receive
250 times more subsidies
1034
00:38:45,468 --> 00:38:47,871
than nuclear energy,
which gives us reliable energy
1035
00:38:47,971 --> 00:38:49,472
and it's carbon-free.
1036
00:38:49,572 --> 00:38:51,007
So there's smarter ways
to do this.
1037
00:38:51,174 --> 00:38:53,543
I don't think we should attack
the oil and gas industry,
1038
00:38:53,643 --> 00:38:56,313
especially in America.
Why is that? Why do I say that?
1039
00:38:56,413 --> 00:38:57,914
Well, because you got
to look at what worked. Okay?
1040
00:38:58,014 --> 00:38:59,316
We've reduced emissions
in this country
1041
00:38:59,416 --> 00:39:00,817
more than the next ten countries
combined.
1042
00:39:00,917 --> 00:39:02,852
We're back to 1992 levels.
Why is that?
1043
00:39:02,953 --> 00:39:04,454
Almost entirely because of gas.
1044
00:39:04,554 --> 00:39:05,989
Because
of the fracking industry.
1045
00:39:06,089 --> 00:39:07,724
Um, because it displaced coal.
1046
00:39:07,824 --> 00:39:10,327
Okay? It-it has about 50%
the emissions of coal.
1047
00:39:10,427 --> 00:39:13,196
Imagine doing the same thing via
our exports and via trade deals
1048
00:39:13,296 --> 00:39:14,431
with China and India.
1049
00:39:14,531 --> 00:39:15,565
You know, China, last year,
1050
00:39:15,665 --> 00:39:17,801
built three times
more coal capacity
1051
00:39:17,901 --> 00:39:19,769
than the rest of the world
combined?
1052
00:39:19,869 --> 00:39:21,371
Yeah, China hasn't been playing
by the rules.
1053
00:39:21,471 --> 00:39:23,006
-I mean, everyone knows this.
-They don't play by any rules.
1054
00:39:23,106 --> 00:39:24,341
-Right. -They play
by their own-- Well, they play
1055
00:39:24,441 --> 00:39:25,709
by the rules that the Paris
Climate Accord gave them,
1056
00:39:25,809 --> 00:39:28,111
which is you can keep emitting
until 2030.
1057
00:39:28,211 --> 00:39:29,779
So if you're the Chinese,
what are you gonna do?
1058
00:39:29,879 --> 00:39:31,715
I'm just gonna keep building
coal plants so that, in 2030,
1059
00:39:31,815 --> 00:39:33,883
well, yeah, I built a new--
100 new coal plants,
1060
00:39:33,984 --> 00:39:35,285
but now I can build 99
1061
00:39:35,385 --> 00:39:36,386
-and I can say I reduced it.
-But hasn't-hasn't America
1062
00:39:36,486 --> 00:39:37,854
always been about
what does America do?
1063
00:39:37,954 --> 00:39:39,322
Like, the world follows America.
1064
00:39:39,422 --> 00:39:41,691
It feels like America
has an opportunity here to go,
1065
00:39:41,791 --> 00:39:43,627
"Oh, China's slipping on this.
1066
00:39:43,727 --> 00:39:45,562
"We're gonna take the mantle.
We will be the leaders
1067
00:39:45,662 --> 00:39:48,498
in creation of new energy."
Now, please don't get me wrong.
1068
00:39:48,598 --> 00:39:50,267
I think it is foolish
for anyone to think
1069
00:39:50,367 --> 00:39:51,801
-this can happen overnight.
-Yeah.
1070
00:39:51,901 --> 00:39:53,003
I think you have to transition.
1071
00:39:53,169 --> 00:39:54,771
We've seen that you can't create
enough energy
1072
00:39:54,871 --> 00:39:57,841
from the sources that we talked
about-- wind, et cetera, solar.
1073
00:39:57,941 --> 00:40:00,076
They haven't found ways
to replicate that energy
1074
00:40:00,176 --> 00:40:02,412
immediately overnight.
I agree with you on this.
1075
00:40:02,512 --> 00:40:06,416
But surely there are ways that
now the gas and coal industry,
1076
00:40:06,516 --> 00:40:08,351
especially the oil industries,
really,
1077
00:40:08,451 --> 00:40:11,388
can-can really, I think, pull a
little bit more of their weight.
1078
00:40:11,488 --> 00:40:13,390
I mean, they themselves--
I think it was the-the oil
1079
00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:14,891
and, um-- What are they called?
1080
00:40:14,991 --> 00:40:16,326
You probably know their name
better.
1081
00:40:16,426 --> 00:40:17,794
The industry of, like--
You know, all the oil companies
1082
00:40:17,894 --> 00:40:19,496
have come together
and they said, "Hey,
1083
00:40:19,596 --> 00:40:21,798
"we are for paying
what-what essentially amounts
1084
00:40:21,898 --> 00:40:23,300
-to a carbon tax." You know?
-Yeah.
1085
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,435
Some-some
of the big oil companies are--
1086
00:40:25,535 --> 00:40:26,903
You got to be careful
how we interpret
1087
00:40:27,003 --> 00:40:28,571
what they're saying,
because what that does
1088
00:40:28,672 --> 00:40:30,507
is displace a lot of
the medium-sized oil companies
1089
00:40:30,607 --> 00:40:31,975
-who can't deal with that.
-Interesting. So you're saying
1090
00:40:32,142 --> 00:40:33,843
-they're using that as a slick
move... -Yeah, it's not as--
1091
00:40:33,944 --> 00:40:35,045
And-and if you're gonna have
a carbon tax,
1092
00:40:35,145 --> 00:40:36,246
it needs to be globalized.
1093
00:40:36,346 --> 00:40:37,747
Like, there should be
a China carbon tax.
1094
00:40:37,847 --> 00:40:39,349
I mean, if-if we're gonna talk
about carbon ta...
1095
00:40:39,449 --> 00:40:41,151
But you can't always wait for
China though. Like, that's--
1096
00:40:41,184 --> 00:40:42,552
That-- No, and, honestly,
this is my only thing,
1097
00:40:42,652 --> 00:40:45,021
is, like-like,
is America gonna wait for China
1098
00:40:45,155 --> 00:40:47,023
to follow the rules before
it just does the right thing?
1099
00:40:47,157 --> 00:40:49,159
No, we don't have to wait.
A-Again, what-what I mentioned
1100
00:40:49,225 --> 00:40:52,162
a-a minute ago was
the Chinese have an interest
1101
00:40:52,228 --> 00:40:54,164
-in reliable energy
that's cheaper. -Yes.
1102
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:56,266
And that looks
a lot like U.S. natural gas.
1103
00:40:56,366 --> 00:40:58,201
And so... (stammers)
In our last administration,
1104
00:40:58,301 --> 00:41:00,003
we talked about this--
getting China to buy
1105
00:41:00,170 --> 00:41:02,205
$12 billion worth
of natural gas.
1106
00:41:02,305 --> 00:41:03,840
If you-- Let me--
let me give you a stat.
1107
00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:08,178
If you displaced coal in China
with natural gas right now,
1108
00:41:08,278 --> 00:41:10,413
um, you'd have
about a 50% reduction,
1109
00:41:10,513 --> 00:41:14,184
which is about a 13% to 15%
reduction globally in emissions.
1110
00:41:14,250 --> 00:41:16,086
Talk about massive change
1111
00:41:16,186 --> 00:41:19,255
without even harming anybody,
economically speaking.
1112
00:41:19,356 --> 00:41:20,557
Because what everybody's
worried about,
1113
00:41:20,657 --> 00:41:22,225
including say
the president of Uganda,
1114
00:41:22,325 --> 00:41:23,960
who wrote that scathing letter
and editorial
1115
00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:25,629
in the Wall-Wall Street Journal,
1116
00:41:25,729 --> 00:41:28,231
they are not going to put off
getting their people out
1117
00:41:28,331 --> 00:41:30,700
of poverty just for the sake
of-of this obsession
1118
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,002
with solar and wind.
1119
00:41:32,135 --> 00:41:34,137
So we can lead. I'm not saying
we shouldn't lead.
1120
00:41:34,237 --> 00:41:35,939
But we should lead
with technological innovations,
1121
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:37,340
including our oil
and gas companies.
1122
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,609
They do a lot of this,
by the way. Carbon capture is--
1123
00:41:39,709 --> 00:41:42,212
Uh, the carbon capture
technology is growing radically.
1124
00:41:42,312 --> 00:41:44,748
Exxon's talking about a
carbon hub in the Houston area.
1125
00:41:44,848 --> 00:41:48,151
There's ways to-to not destroy
our economy
1126
00:41:48,184 --> 00:41:49,686
while also reducing emissions.
1127
00:41:49,786 --> 00:41:51,521
And that's why I'm going
to COP26,
1128
00:41:51,621 --> 00:41:53,223
to promulgate that view.
1129
00:41:53,323 --> 00:41:54,824
Before I let you go then,
1130
00:41:54,924 --> 00:41:58,161
you-you have these conversations
with your fellow Republicans.
1131
00:41:58,261 --> 00:41:59,896
What it feels like to me
right now,
1132
00:41:59,996 --> 00:42:01,231
as somebody who just observes,
1133
00:42:01,331 --> 00:42:05,535
is it feels like
the Republican Party is in a...
1134
00:42:05,635 --> 00:42:08,905
a really interesting
watershed moment where...
1135
00:42:09,005 --> 00:42:12,442
I think it's, what, 46% or 43%
of Republicans identify
1136
00:42:12,542 --> 00:42:15,178
-as Trumpers before Republicans.
-Hmm.
1137
00:42:15,278 --> 00:42:18,648
You know, it-it now feels like
the party's at a point where,
1138
00:42:18,748 --> 00:42:20,183
you know,
to use sporting analogies--
1139
00:42:20,216 --> 00:42:21,851
we'd always complain
about this back in the day--
1140
00:42:21,952 --> 00:42:23,320
we'd go like, "Players
have forgotten that the badge
1141
00:42:23,420 --> 00:42:24,988
is more important
than the player."
1142
00:42:25,088 --> 00:42:27,691
-You know? And you're trying
to do certain things. -Yeah.
1143
00:42:27,791 --> 00:42:29,359
You have come under fire,
for instance,
1144
00:42:29,459 --> 00:42:31,795
just for saying to people,
"Hey, Trump didn't lose
1145
00:42:31,895 --> 00:42:34,130
because of some weird
election fraud or whatever."
1146
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:36,433
You've come under fire for this.
1147
00:42:36,533 --> 00:42:39,336
What do you think the future
of the Republican Party will be?
1148
00:42:39,436 --> 00:42:41,137
Do you think
the Republican Party can avoid
1149
00:42:41,204 --> 00:42:42,706
being co-opted by Trump?
1150
00:42:42,806 --> 00:42:45,508
And if the answer is yes or no,
1151
00:42:45,609 --> 00:42:48,378
what-what do you think
the-the next moves need to be
1152
00:42:48,478 --> 00:42:50,614
for Republicans
to keep moving forward
1153
00:42:50,714 --> 00:42:52,816
without being locked down
in one person's ideology?
1154
00:42:52,916 --> 00:42:54,985
Yeah, and-and I tell Republicans
all the time
1155
00:42:55,151 --> 00:42:56,886
we can't be locked
into one person.
1156
00:42:56,987 --> 00:42:59,155
You know? We-we are a party
that follows a set of ideals.
1157
00:42:59,255 --> 00:43:00,423
What is conservatism?
1158
00:43:00,523 --> 00:43:02,025
It's
a problem-solving mechanism.
1159
00:43:02,158 --> 00:43:03,827
That's what we're selling
to the American people.
1160
00:43:03,927 --> 00:43:05,528
We should talk about this
more often, by the way.
1161
00:43:05,629 --> 00:43:07,864
Conservatism is a mechanism
by which we solve problems
1162
00:43:07,964 --> 00:43:10,767
through a framework of limiting
principles, fundamentally.
1163
00:43:10,867 --> 00:43:12,369
We should not get away
from that.
1164
00:43:12,469 --> 00:43:14,237
Limiting principles
is a key part of that.
1165
00:43:14,337 --> 00:43:17,707
An a-- an adherence
to Western liberal values
1166
00:43:17,807 --> 00:43:19,876
is a-- is a key part of that.
1167
00:43:19,976 --> 00:43:21,678
Um, I will say this.
1168
00:43:21,778 --> 00:43:23,179
I-I do a ton of events.
1169
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,383
Uh, I've-I've been doing a ton
of events for the past year--
1170
00:43:26,483 --> 00:43:28,918
and, uh, these are
Republican events, of course--
1171
00:43:29,019 --> 00:43:30,787
and the people
who come to a Republican event
1172
00:43:30,887 --> 00:43:34,491
tend to be the more primary
voter, activist crowd, right?
1173
00:43:34,591 --> 00:43:36,293
And I don't get questions
about this.
1174
00:43:36,393 --> 00:43:39,362
I always get questions
about this from the media.
1175
00:43:39,462 --> 00:43:41,131
Always. I never--
1176
00:43:41,197 --> 00:43:43,233
and I-- and I mean that
in an absolute sense--
1177
00:43:43,333 --> 00:43:46,136
I mean never. Never do I get
this question about Trump
1178
00:43:46,236 --> 00:43:47,737
from voters on the ground.
1179
00:43:47,837 --> 00:43:50,507
So I think polling has to be
taken with a grain of salt.
1180
00:43:50,607 --> 00:43:53,209
I think people are very--
especially Republicans--
1181
00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:56,680
are very, very, uh, suspicious
of pollsters
1182
00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:58,148
and they don't ever want
to give in to you.
1183
00:43:58,181 --> 00:44:00,784
So-so they'll-- They want
to defend Trump because--
1184
00:44:00,884 --> 00:44:02,852
But it doesn't mean
they're obsessed with him,
1185
00:44:02,953 --> 00:44:04,521
but they do-- but they feel
the need to defend him.
1186
00:44:04,621 --> 00:44:05,922
And so they'll tell
that pollster,
1187
00:44:06,022 --> 00:44:07,390
-"Yeah, I'm a Trump supporter."
-Oh, could explain why
1188
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:08,925
the polls are often wrong.
1189
00:44:09,025 --> 00:44:10,293
They are often wrong, yeah.
1190
00:44:10,393 --> 00:44:11,995
Yeah, especially in and around
Trump and Republicans.
1191
00:44:12,162 --> 00:44:15,265
Right, 'cause we-we have a very
suspicious view of pollsters,
1192
00:44:15,365 --> 00:44:16,700
for whatever reason, and, um...
1193
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,902
and so you have to take it
with a grain of salt.
1194
00:44:19,002 --> 00:44:20,303
Well, I could talk to you
forever,
1195
00:44:20,403 --> 00:44:21,905
but I know you have to go.
You're catching a train back
1196
00:44:22,005 --> 00:44:23,907
-to D.C. Thank you for taking
the time. -This was fun.
1197
00:44:24,007 --> 00:44:25,842
Thank you for chatting with me,
and, uh, I hope to have you
1198
00:44:25,942 --> 00:44:28,578
-back on again. Good luck at,
uh, COP26. -Love to. Thank you.
1199
00:44:28,678 --> 00:44:30,714
Don't forget, people.
The congressman's books
1200
00:44:30,814 --> 00:44:32,549
are available
at DanCrenshaw.com.
1201
00:44:32,649 --> 00:44:35,418
And you can check out
his podcast Hold These Truths.
1202
00:44:35,518 --> 00:44:36,586
All right, we're gonna take
a quick break,
1203
00:44:36,686 --> 00:44:38,655
but we'll be right back
after this.
1204
00:44:42,324 --> 00:44:43,325
Well, that's our show
for tonight. But, before we go,
1205
00:44:43,425 --> 00:44:45,827
tomorrow is Election Day
across America.
1206
00:44:45,927 --> 00:44:47,596
So if you can,
please get out and vote
1207
00:44:47,696 --> 00:44:48,797
if you haven't already.
1208
00:44:48,897 --> 00:44:50,799
Also, if you can,
please consider supporting
1209
00:44:50,899 --> 00:44:52,133
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1210
00:44:52,234 --> 00:44:53,935
It's a national
nonpartisan initiative
1211
00:44:54,035 --> 00:44:55,770
to change the culture
around voting
1212
00:44:55,871 --> 00:44:59,007
and to increase participation
in each and every election
1213
00:44:59,107 --> 00:45:02,344
by helping to close
the race and age voting gap.
1214
00:45:02,444 --> 00:45:04,179
Now, if you want to support
their work,
1215
00:45:04,279 --> 00:45:06,248
then donate at the link below.
1216
00:45:06,348 --> 00:45:08,483
Until tomorrow,
stay safe out there,
1217
00:45:08,583 --> 00:45:10,485
get your vaccine and, remember,
1218
00:45:10,585 --> 00:45:12,020
if someone calls you out
for falling asleep
1219
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,388
while they were talking,
1220
00:45:13,488 --> 00:45:16,024
you just tell them
that you were praying for them
1221
00:45:16,124 --> 00:45:17,559
to be more interesting.
1222
00:45:17,659 --> 00:45:20,162
Now here it is,
Your Moment of Zen.
1223
00:45:20,262 --> 00:45:22,230
♪ ♪
1224
00:45:22,330 --> 00:45:23,932
-Happy Halloween, everybody!
-Yay!
1225
00:45:24,032 --> 00:45:25,400
-Rawr. (laughs)
-Oh! (laughs)
1226
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:26,902
We've got Captain America.
1227
00:45:27,002 --> 00:45:28,670
Today, we are rock stars.
1228
00:45:28,770 --> 00:45:31,106
It is your governor,
Gavin Newsom.
1229
00:45:31,206 --> 00:45:33,241
Reporting in Chico, Guy Fieri.
1230
00:45:33,341 --> 00:45:35,443
Bringing you the weather
as Winnie the Pooh.
1231
00:45:35,544 --> 00:45:37,612
What's up, dudes?
Crypto Kirk here.
1232
00:45:37,712 --> 00:45:39,981
I am Harry Potter.
Very subtly though.
1233
00:45:40,081 --> 00:45:41,116
-Okay.
-Very subtly.
1234
00:45:41,216 --> 00:45:42,184
Hit me baby one more time.
1235
00:45:42,284 --> 00:45:43,351
I am the captain now.
1236
00:45:43,451 --> 00:45:46,188
♪ Come with me and you'll be ♪
1237
00:45:46,288 --> 00:45:48,790
♪ In a worl... ♪
(laughs) Oh.
1238
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:50,325
You know,
in the words of Tony Stark,
1239
00:45:50,425 --> 00:45:53,829
-I am Iron Man. -Yeah,
you're Iron Man-slash, uh...
1240
00:45:53,929 --> 00:45:55,463
John Travolta in Grease?
1241
00:45:55,564 --> 00:45:57,299
How 'bout
that seven-day forecast?
1242
00:45:57,399 --> 00:45:58,500
It's hard to breathe.
1243
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,468
Hey, I've got
some hard candy for you two.
1244
00:46:00,569 --> 00:46:02,537
Some Werther's Originals.
They're my favorite.
1245
00:46:02,637 --> 00:46:04,072
I'm dressed as a host.
1246
00:46:04,172 --> 00:46:05,740
I'm dressed
as a tired meteorologist.
1247
00:46:05,841 --> 00:46:09,377
-(laughs) You are nailing that.
-Yeah. (chuckles)