1 00:00:01,278 --> 00:00:02,412 I went as a... Did you dress for anything? 2 00:00:02,512 --> 00:00:04,548 -MAN: No. -I dressed up as The Weeknd. 3 00:00:04,648 --> 00:00:07,417 Yeah, and apparently, I looked so much like him, 4 00:00:07,517 --> 00:00:09,519 some people thought I was The Weeknd in the streets. 5 00:00:09,619 --> 00:00:11,054 Which made no sense to me. 6 00:00:11,154 --> 00:00:13,290 'Cause why would The Weeknd go as The Weeknd for Halloween? 7 00:00:13,390 --> 00:00:15,125 Literally, someone in the studio was like, 8 00:00:15,225 --> 00:00:17,761 "The Weeknd! You're The Weeknd! You're The Weeknd!" 9 00:00:17,861 --> 00:00:19,563 Then I was like, "No, I'm a guy dressed as The Weeknd." 10 00:00:19,663 --> 00:00:21,431 She's like, "I know The Weeknd when I see him!" 11 00:00:21,531 --> 00:00:22,799 Then I was like, "Why would The Weeknd dress 12 00:00:22,899 --> 00:00:24,134 "as The Weeknd for Halloween? 13 00:00:24,234 --> 00:00:26,369 "What sense does any of...? This is Halloween! 14 00:00:26,469 --> 00:00:27,938 "This is the day when nobody is the person 15 00:00:28,038 --> 00:00:29,306 who you think they are." 16 00:00:29,406 --> 00:00:31,141 "It's The Weekend! Come, just take our picture!" 17 00:00:31,241 --> 00:00:33,310 She's like, "Don't be an asshole, Abel!" 18 00:00:33,410 --> 00:00:34,444 I was like, "I'm not... I'm not him. I'm not him." 19 00:00:34,544 --> 00:00:36,246 Then she's like, "Just take our picture." 20 00:00:36,346 --> 00:00:37,514 Then I was like, "Screw you. 21 00:00:37,614 --> 00:00:40,083 "Yeah, The Weeknd says, screw you. Idiot. 22 00:00:40,183 --> 00:00:42,419 That's right. And don't forget to buy my album." 23 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,055 ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from the heart of Times Square 24 00:00:45,155 --> 00:00:48,458 in New York City, the only city in America, it's 25 00:00:48,558 --> 00:00:50,527 The Daily Show. 26 00:00:50,627 --> 00:00:53,563 Tonight, Biden's European vacation, 27 00:00:53,663 --> 00:00:56,132 horror films are racist, 28 00:00:56,233 --> 00:00:59,002 and Representative Dan Crenshaw. 29 00:00:59,102 --> 00:01:03,673 This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 30 00:01:03,773 --> 00:01:05,175 Hey, what's going on, everybody? 31 00:01:05,275 --> 00:01:07,277 Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. 32 00:01:07,377 --> 00:01:08,879 And joining me for today's headlines 33 00:01:08,979 --> 00:01:11,248 is my good friend Michael Kosta. 34 00:01:11,348 --> 00:01:12,816 What's going on, Michael Kosta? How you doing, man? 35 00:01:12,916 --> 00:01:14,351 -Did you have a great Halloween? -I had a great Halloween. 36 00:01:14,451 --> 00:01:18,388 -Yeah? -You know, and I'm more proud of the fact 37 00:01:18,488 --> 00:01:20,690 that I haven't seen a white person 38 00:01:20,790 --> 00:01:23,260 post a culturally-insensitive costume. 39 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,962 -And it makes me think. Maybe we learned. -Yeah. 40 00:01:26,129 --> 00:01:30,267 Maybe we learned not to post, but maybe, maybe 41 00:01:30,367 --> 00:01:34,437 Ted Lasso was scooping up a lot of the white people costumes. 42 00:01:34,537 --> 00:01:36,973 -I saw a lot of them. -I saw a lot of them, too. 43 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:39,576 And it makes me think maybe we need more TV shows 44 00:01:39,676 --> 00:01:42,479 with a white, male, charismatic lead. 45 00:01:42,579 --> 00:01:44,881 You know what, my man? I hear what you're saying. 46 00:01:44,981 --> 00:01:46,383 That's what I'm saying. 47 00:01:46,483 --> 00:01:48,885 We need more white men represented on television 48 00:01:48,985 --> 00:01:51,187 so that people have more white men to look up to. 49 00:01:51,288 --> 00:01:52,856 Look, you said it. 50 00:01:52,956 --> 00:01:54,691 The other thing I love about Halloween-- 51 00:01:54,791 --> 00:01:56,393 it just feels like there's no rules. 52 00:01:56,493 --> 00:01:59,229 You know, you can walk around your neighborhood drunk, 53 00:01:59,329 --> 00:02:01,231 drinking, you see a cop, they never say anything. 54 00:02:01,331 --> 00:02:02,799 You don't even know if that is a cop. 55 00:02:02,899 --> 00:02:04,534 Maybe that's someone dressed as a cop. 56 00:02:04,634 --> 00:02:06,269 Even if you say something to you, 57 00:02:06,369 --> 00:02:09,406 you can say, "My costume is that I'm publicly intoxicated." 58 00:02:09,506 --> 00:02:11,207 And you're free, you're good. 59 00:02:11,308 --> 00:02:13,710 -Good to see you, man. -Oh, man. Yeah, I just got to... 60 00:02:13,810 --> 00:02:15,345 I just got to commit more crimes on Halloween. 61 00:02:15,445 --> 00:02:17,247 -You just made me realize this. -There's no rules, dude. 62 00:02:17,347 --> 00:02:18,515 -All right, yeah. -Yeah, all right. 63 00:02:18,615 --> 00:02:19,783 Next Halloween-- me and you-- 64 00:02:19,883 --> 00:02:21,218 -we're doing this together. -Yes. Yeah. 65 00:02:21,318 --> 00:02:22,485 All right, well, let's get into the big story 66 00:02:22,586 --> 00:02:23,787 that's happening today. 67 00:02:23,887 --> 00:02:25,121 It's all about Joe Biden, 68 00:02:25,188 --> 00:02:26,389 President of the United States 69 00:02:26,489 --> 00:02:28,191 and professional malarkey hunter. 70 00:02:28,291 --> 00:02:30,193 There are lots of cool perks to being president, right? 71 00:02:30,293 --> 00:02:32,329 You get a giant house with a bowling alley 72 00:02:32,429 --> 00:02:33,563 and a personal chef. 73 00:02:33,663 --> 00:02:35,498 You get that free painting of yourself, 74 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,335 and best of all, you get to travel the world for free. 75 00:02:38,435 --> 00:02:41,238 And right now, Joe Biden is on one of the biggest trips 76 00:02:41,338 --> 00:02:43,039 of his presidency so far. 77 00:02:43,139 --> 00:02:45,141 So, let's find out how it's all going 78 00:02:45,208 --> 00:02:47,744 in another installment of Grandpa's Day Out. 79 00:02:47,844 --> 00:02:50,280 ♪ ♪ 80 00:02:55,552 --> 00:02:58,355 President Biden's first stop on his European tour 81 00:02:58,455 --> 00:03:01,291 was the Vatican City, the place trip advisor rated 82 00:03:01,391 --> 00:03:03,894 "Best city to Feel Guilty for Masturbating In." 83 00:03:03,994 --> 00:03:06,963 And while Biden was there, he had a very special meeting 84 00:03:07,097 --> 00:03:09,165 with a fellow Catholic. 85 00:03:09,266 --> 00:03:11,368 NEWSMAN: For President Biden, a day of devotion and diplomacy. 86 00:03:11,468 --> 00:03:14,504 America's second ever Roman Catholic president having 87 00:03:14,604 --> 00:03:15,906 a private audience with Pope Francis 88 00:03:16,006 --> 00:03:18,108 with whom he's built a personal bond, 89 00:03:18,174 --> 00:03:22,412 giving him a ceremonial commander coin and a compliment. 90 00:03:43,533 --> 00:03:45,569 -(laughter) -(translating) 91 00:03:53,510 --> 00:03:55,812 So, obviously a very personal moment 92 00:03:55,912 --> 00:03:58,348 with a lighthearted one, as is typical with Joe Biden, 93 00:03:58,448 --> 00:04:00,383 who ended that meeting today by saying to the pope, 94 00:04:00,483 --> 00:04:01,818 "God love ya." 95 00:04:01,918 --> 00:04:03,687 You know, you've got to give it to Joe Biden, 96 00:04:03,787 --> 00:04:06,389 because it took everything in his power as an old man 97 00:04:06,489 --> 00:04:09,559 to not make that coin appear behind the pope's ear. 98 00:04:09,659 --> 00:04:12,362 What's this, Popey? Aah! 99 00:04:12,462 --> 00:04:14,831 Here's a coin, kid. I'll see you next time. Yeah! 100 00:04:14,931 --> 00:04:17,300 Also, the fact that he said, "God love ya" to the pope, 101 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,103 that is the most unnecessary "God love ya" in history. 102 00:04:20,170 --> 00:04:22,138 You don't need to say "God love ya" to the pope. 103 00:04:22,239 --> 00:04:23,640 He knows God loves him. 104 00:04:23,740 --> 00:04:25,308 He had dinner with him last night. 105 00:04:25,408 --> 00:04:27,244 But I do think that meeting was cool to see, 106 00:04:27,344 --> 00:04:30,380 because it's nice that, even though these two men 107 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,983 are some of the most powerful leaders in the world, 108 00:04:33,116 --> 00:04:34,184 when it comes down to it, 109 00:04:34,284 --> 00:04:36,186 they're just a couple of old guys hanging out, 110 00:04:36,286 --> 00:04:38,121 showing off their coin collection, 111 00:04:38,154 --> 00:04:41,358 talking about alcohol, making inappropriate ethnic jokes. 112 00:04:41,458 --> 00:04:42,826 I mean, forget the Vatican, 113 00:04:42,926 --> 00:04:44,928 these two should have been meeting in a sauna. 114 00:04:45,028 --> 00:04:46,630 You know? And it's adorable how the pope 115 00:04:46,730 --> 00:04:49,232 acts so happy to receive that coin. 116 00:04:49,332 --> 00:04:51,268 You see him, you know, his house is filled 117 00:04:51,368 --> 00:04:54,004 with Indiana Jones' wish list. 118 00:04:54,137 --> 00:04:56,606 He doesn't need to be happy about a coin. You know? 119 00:04:56,706 --> 00:04:59,009 Oh, wow, the coin from the White House, 120 00:04:59,142 --> 00:05:02,579 I'll keep it right next to the actual Holy Grail. 121 00:05:02,679 --> 00:05:04,514 Uh, throw this shit out, Vincenzo. 122 00:05:04,614 --> 00:05:06,650 (speaking fake Italian) 123 00:05:09,219 --> 00:05:11,087 (continues in fake Italian) ...White House. 124 00:05:11,121 --> 00:05:13,290 (bleep) (continues fake Italian) 125 00:05:13,390 --> 00:05:15,959 Well, you see, I'm... it seems like I speak bad Italian. 126 00:05:16,092 --> 00:05:17,961 But actually, the pope is actually from Argentina. 127 00:05:18,094 --> 00:05:19,329 He speaks Spanish. 128 00:05:19,429 --> 00:05:21,431 So I'm actually doing a very good pope impression. 129 00:05:21,531 --> 00:05:22,999 I'm saying his Italian's not great. 130 00:05:23,099 --> 00:05:24,434 That's what that is. 131 00:05:24,534 --> 00:05:26,336 I'm gonna be honest, Kosta, I think this is a good look 132 00:05:26,436 --> 00:05:28,505 for Biden, because, I mean, he's catholic, 133 00:05:28,605 --> 00:05:30,540 and the pope likes him. This is a good thing, right? 134 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,542 I think it's a bad thing. I think it's a bad sign. 135 00:05:32,642 --> 00:05:34,945 If you're trying to negotiate an infrastructure bill 136 00:05:35,111 --> 00:05:37,480 in the United States, and in the middle of negotiations 137 00:05:37,581 --> 00:05:39,583 you got to run and talk to the pope. 138 00:05:39,683 --> 00:05:42,385 Hey, Pope, uh, confession: we're screwed. 139 00:05:42,485 --> 00:05:45,488 Isn't it great that they just get called the pope? 140 00:05:45,589 --> 00:05:48,425 That's your new name when you become the pope-- the pope. 141 00:05:48,525 --> 00:05:50,126 His name is Francis. Everyone calls him the pope. 142 00:05:50,193 --> 00:05:51,561 It's like when you work at Denny's. 143 00:05:51,661 --> 00:05:53,964 Very first day you show up and the only name tag they have 144 00:05:54,130 --> 00:05:56,733 is "Josh," you're now Josh. 145 00:05:56,833 --> 00:05:58,134 I thought that guy was Josh. 146 00:05:58,235 --> 00:05:59,970 Yeah, exactly. Everyone thinks it's Josh. 147 00:06:00,070 --> 00:06:02,672 Also, you know there's another former pope out there. 148 00:06:02,772 --> 00:06:06,076 Pope Benedict? He's just around. He's hanging. 149 00:06:06,142 --> 00:06:09,312 -He's like the Jay Leno now of popes. -(laughing) 150 00:06:09,412 --> 00:06:12,883 He's just fixing cars in Germany. 151 00:06:12,983 --> 00:06:14,885 He was a... H-He was a pope. 152 00:06:14,985 --> 00:06:16,386 And then he's not a pope? 153 00:06:16,486 --> 00:06:18,722 I'm just saying, no one ever talks about Benedict. 154 00:06:18,822 --> 00:06:20,991 -Former... former pope? -Former pope. 155 00:06:21,091 --> 00:06:23,727 -Pope. Pope. Pope. Previous pope? -Previous pope. 156 00:06:23,827 --> 00:06:26,296 (laughs) All right, now, after President Biden 157 00:06:26,396 --> 00:06:27,631 exchanged Irish jokes with the pope, 158 00:06:27,731 --> 00:06:30,200 he caught an Uber to Rome for the G20 summit, 159 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:33,103 where he and other world leaders got down to business. 160 00:06:33,203 --> 00:06:35,238 And they got... they got some things done. 161 00:06:35,338 --> 00:06:37,374 You know, like, um, they-they agreed 162 00:06:37,474 --> 00:06:40,911 to create a global minimum corporate tax rate of 15%, 163 00:06:41,011 --> 00:06:43,313 which is expected to raise hundreds of billions of dollars 164 00:06:43,413 --> 00:06:45,248 until the corporations find a different loophole 165 00:06:45,348 --> 00:06:46,616 about five minutes afterwards. 166 00:06:46,716 --> 00:06:50,153 But when it came to another priority for the G20, 167 00:06:50,253 --> 00:06:51,988 tackling climate change... (inhales sharply) 168 00:06:52,122 --> 00:06:54,224 Things weren't as successful. 169 00:06:54,324 --> 00:06:56,960 NEWSMAN: Even the first major in-person meeting in two years 170 00:06:57,127 --> 00:06:59,129 couldn't bring world leaders closer together 171 00:06:59,162 --> 00:07:01,097 on the issue of climate change. 172 00:07:01,197 --> 00:07:03,633 In the final communiqué, G20 leaders agreed 173 00:07:03,733 --> 00:07:06,336 to softer language on reaching net zero emissions, 174 00:07:06,436 --> 00:07:10,206 setting a target of "by or around mid-century." 175 00:07:10,307 --> 00:07:13,810 Canada's pledge is to be carbon-neutral by 2050. 176 00:07:13,910 --> 00:07:15,779 Coal was also contentious. 177 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:18,882 G20 leaders did agree to end public financing 178 00:07:18,982 --> 00:07:21,117 of coal-fired power generation abroad, 179 00:07:21,218 --> 00:07:25,488 but there are no targets to phase out coal domestically. 180 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:28,291 Damn, G20. Now, that is a flex. 181 00:07:28,391 --> 00:07:29,526 Did you hear what they said there? 182 00:07:29,626 --> 00:07:31,328 Basically, these leaders were like, 183 00:07:31,428 --> 00:07:33,897 "No more coal for anyone. 184 00:07:33,997 --> 00:07:36,266 "Except us. Now, if you'll excuse me, 185 00:07:36,366 --> 00:07:39,436 I've got to go home and give a Pfizer booster to my pet." 186 00:07:39,536 --> 00:07:42,105 A-And I'm sorry, guys, but how is climate change 187 00:07:42,205 --> 00:07:44,641 the most pressing issue facing humanity, 188 00:07:44,741 --> 00:07:47,577 but then your plan is to do something about it 189 00:07:47,677 --> 00:07:49,913 by, more or less, 2050? 190 00:07:50,013 --> 00:07:51,681 Like, that's a pretty good sign 191 00:07:51,781 --> 00:07:52,949 that something isn't actually gonna get done. 192 00:07:53,116 --> 00:07:54,184 If somebody says to you, 193 00:07:54,284 --> 00:07:55,986 "Yeah, yeah, we should hang out sometime. 194 00:07:56,119 --> 00:07:58,622 What's your schedule looking like in 2050?" 195 00:07:58,722 --> 00:08:00,490 You're never seeing that person again. 196 00:08:00,590 --> 00:08:01,591 I don't care if they're your dad. 197 00:08:01,691 --> 00:08:03,059 You're never seeing them. 198 00:08:03,093 --> 00:08:04,494 Not to mention, 199 00:08:04,594 --> 00:08:06,563 I'm looking at the people making this pledge. 200 00:08:06,663 --> 00:08:08,832 Half of them aren't even gonna be around in 2050. 201 00:08:08,932 --> 00:08:10,500 That's genius. When are we fixing this? 202 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,835 "Uh, how much time do I have left? 203 00:08:11,935 --> 00:08:13,570 Yeah, yeah, around then." 204 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:15,305 I mean, the bigger problem is that these steps 205 00:08:15,405 --> 00:08:16,439 that the countries have announced 206 00:08:16,539 --> 00:08:17,841 that they're gonna take, 207 00:08:17,941 --> 00:08:19,743 they won't actually reduce carbon emissions enough 208 00:08:19,843 --> 00:08:21,077 to reach the goals. 209 00:08:21,111 --> 00:08:22,512 So, basically, what they've done is said, 210 00:08:22,612 --> 00:08:24,648 "I want to lose 100 pounds by the summer, 211 00:08:24,748 --> 00:08:26,516 "so I'm gonna do five push-ups a day. 212 00:08:26,616 --> 00:08:28,985 "And then I don't know. Maybe I'll get tapeworm? 213 00:08:29,085 --> 00:08:30,153 We'll-we'll see what happens." 214 00:08:30,253 --> 00:08:31,721 You know? It's frustrating, Kosta. 215 00:08:31,821 --> 00:08:34,090 The thing... You can't say you want to do something about it 216 00:08:34,190 --> 00:08:35,525 and then be like, "Well, in 30 years. 217 00:08:35,625 --> 00:08:36,793 We'll do something in 30 years." 218 00:08:36,893 --> 00:08:38,495 I can solve climate change in ten minutes. 219 00:08:38,595 --> 00:08:40,997 -You ready? Okay? -Okay. 220 00:08:41,097 --> 00:08:42,666 Here's how... Well, they could solve it in ten minutes. 221 00:08:42,766 --> 00:08:45,969 Stop having the conference in a fancy room in Glasgow 222 00:08:46,102 --> 00:08:49,940 and put the G20 summit inside of a California wildfire. 223 00:08:50,106 --> 00:08:52,242 Okay? They'll... They got two minutes. 224 00:08:52,342 --> 00:08:53,843 -Let's wrap this thing up. -Location. 225 00:08:53,944 --> 00:08:55,512 They don't feel the consequences 226 00:08:55,612 --> 00:08:57,113 when they're in an air-conditioned room 227 00:08:57,147 --> 00:08:59,516 -in Glasgow. -But, Kos... I like this. 228 00:08:59,616 --> 00:09:00,917 -That's what I'm saying. -Locat-Location is everything. 229 00:09:01,051 --> 00:09:02,419 -Location, location, location. -Yes. 230 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:04,621 I'm the first person to ever say that. 231 00:09:04,721 --> 00:09:06,923 -Yeah. (chuckles) -Anyway... 232 00:09:07,057 --> 00:09:09,059 Joe Biden wrapped up Grandpa's Day Out 233 00:09:09,125 --> 00:09:12,762 by attending the COP26 Climate Conference in Scotland, 234 00:09:12,862 --> 00:09:15,298 A.K.A. England's fancy church hat. 235 00:09:15,398 --> 00:09:18,068 And although "COP26" sounds like a Bruce Willis movie 236 00:09:18,168 --> 00:09:19,502 that never actually got made, 237 00:09:19,603 --> 00:09:23,073 it's actually the most important annual climate change conference 238 00:09:23,139 --> 00:09:24,441 in the world. 239 00:09:24,541 --> 00:09:25,742 Although that doesn't mean 240 00:09:25,842 --> 00:09:29,446 that it's the most exciting conference in the world. 241 00:09:59,609 --> 00:10:01,444 (applause) 242 00:10:01,545 --> 00:10:03,947 ANNOUNCER: Please welcome the prime minister of Italy, 243 00:10:04,047 --> 00:10:05,749 Mario Draghi. 244 00:10:05,849 --> 00:10:07,284 (chuckles) I don't know what's worse, 245 00:10:07,384 --> 00:10:10,120 the fact that he clapped for a speech that he didn't hear 246 00:10:10,220 --> 00:10:11,955 or the fact that he fell asleep when the guy was like, 247 00:10:12,055 --> 00:10:14,357 "This is the most important thing..." (snores) 248 00:10:14,457 --> 00:10:16,159 "...facing humanity..." (snores) 249 00:10:16,259 --> 00:10:18,061 "...of all time." 250 00:10:18,161 --> 00:10:19,796 And-and, look, look, look, 251 00:10:19,896 --> 00:10:21,298 I know that the haters are gonna say 252 00:10:21,398 --> 00:10:24,267 that Biden was falling asleep during the climate conference. 253 00:10:24,367 --> 00:10:26,369 But think about it-- 254 00:10:26,469 --> 00:10:28,572 how are we gonna save the climate? 255 00:10:28,672 --> 00:10:30,240 Not using energy. That's how. 256 00:10:30,340 --> 00:10:32,609 What's the one time you're not using as much energy? 257 00:10:32,709 --> 00:10:34,010 When you're sleeping. 258 00:10:34,110 --> 00:10:36,046 So Joe Biden was just doing his part, yo. 259 00:10:36,146 --> 00:10:37,280 That's what he was doing. 260 00:10:37,380 --> 00:10:38,915 And, by the way, I don't know exactly 261 00:10:39,015 --> 00:10:40,984 how the chain of command works, 262 00:10:41,084 --> 00:10:44,054 but when he dozed off for five seconds, 263 00:10:44,154 --> 00:10:46,389 I think, technically, that means Kamala Harris 264 00:10:46,489 --> 00:10:48,024 was president at that time, right? 265 00:10:48,124 --> 00:10:51,895 First woman president, America! You did it, baby! You did it! 266 00:10:51,995 --> 00:10:55,332 You see what I did there, Kosta? It's a joke about-- Kosta! 267 00:10:55,432 --> 00:10:57,267 -Michael! -Shoot them, Lindsey Graham! 268 00:10:57,367 --> 00:10:59,936 Use the guns! Use the guns! 269 00:11:00,103 --> 00:11:01,972 That's not what I was talking about. 270 00:11:02,105 --> 00:11:03,640 I know. 271 00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:05,308 This guy. 272 00:11:05,408 --> 00:11:06,776 You know, if you ask me, 273 00:11:06,877 --> 00:11:09,112 the real hero of this whole thing was the aide 274 00:11:09,145 --> 00:11:10,380 who came in and woke Biden up. 275 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,982 'Cause that was... that was slick, man. 276 00:11:12,115 --> 00:11:14,317 That dude should get a coin. If it wasn't for him, 277 00:11:14,417 --> 00:11:16,219 Biden might still be sleeping there now. 278 00:11:16,319 --> 00:11:18,655 Yeah. He'll just wake up next week in the middle of, like, 279 00:11:18,755 --> 00:11:19,890 a furry convention. 280 00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:22,325 "Ah. I don't know if I could rub one out 281 00:11:22,425 --> 00:11:24,761 to a squirrel, but God love you guys." 282 00:11:24,861 --> 00:11:26,463 So kudos to that aide who woke Biden up. 283 00:11:26,563 --> 00:11:28,131 I mean, people-people may not actually know this, 284 00:11:28,198 --> 00:11:31,935 but he's actually part of a new branch of the federal government 285 00:11:32,035 --> 00:11:34,938 and they're on the lookout for recruits. 286 00:11:35,038 --> 00:11:36,306 ♪ ♪ 287 00:11:36,406 --> 00:11:38,842 ANNOUNCER: When the world's most powerful man 288 00:11:38,942 --> 00:11:42,579 needs a power nap at the worst possible time 289 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,249 and the line between consciousness and chaos 290 00:11:46,349 --> 00:11:48,952 is as thin as an eyelid, 291 00:11:49,052 --> 00:11:51,922 that's when we spring into action. 292 00:11:52,022 --> 00:11:53,456 The few, 293 00:11:53,557 --> 00:11:54,958 the swift, 294 00:11:55,058 --> 00:11:58,194 the United States Sleeper Service. 295 00:11:58,295 --> 00:12:01,598 Join our team and you'll learn how to take charge 296 00:12:01,698 --> 00:12:04,467 when the president takes a nap. 297 00:12:04,568 --> 00:12:07,671 -(alarm) -MAN: Eagle is dozing. Repeat, Eagle is dozing. 298 00:12:07,771 --> 00:12:09,105 We are entering rapid eye movement. 299 00:12:09,139 --> 00:12:10,907 Goddamn it, get those eyes open. 300 00:12:11,007 --> 00:12:13,109 -He's about to snore. -(snoring) 301 00:12:13,209 --> 00:12:15,278 -(snoring stops) -(cheering) 302 00:12:15,378 --> 00:12:17,113 ANNOUNCER: So if you're ready to throw yourself 303 00:12:17,180 --> 00:12:19,115 into the line of tired, 304 00:12:19,149 --> 00:12:22,719 join the United States Sleeper Service. 305 00:12:22,819 --> 00:12:25,622 Suck it, Space Force. 306 00:12:25,722 --> 00:12:27,123 All right, when we come back, 307 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:31,294 Roy Wood Jr. will tell us what makes Black people so scary. 308 00:12:31,394 --> 00:12:32,596 You don't want to miss it. 309 00:12:35,031 --> 00:12:36,199 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 310 00:12:36,299 --> 00:12:37,934 Now, as you know, Halloween was last weekend, 311 00:12:38,034 --> 00:12:40,236 and to help commemorate it in our own way, 312 00:12:40,336 --> 00:12:41,938 we turn to Roy Wood Jr. 313 00:12:42,038 --> 00:12:44,574 for another episode of CP Time. 314 00:12:44,674 --> 00:12:47,210 ♪ ♪ 315 00:12:48,945 --> 00:12:50,480 Trash. Trash. 316 00:12:50,580 --> 00:12:52,548 There's no Almond Joys. 317 00:12:52,648 --> 00:12:55,184 Ah, well, hello there. 318 00:12:55,284 --> 00:12:57,220 Welcome to CP Time, 319 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,956 the only show that's for the culture. 320 00:13:00,056 --> 00:13:03,659 Today, we'll be discussing Black horror movies. 321 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:06,062 When you think of Black horror, you think of hits like 322 00:13:06,162 --> 00:13:09,599 Get Out or this year's remake of Candyman. 323 00:13:09,699 --> 00:13:13,069 Which reminds me, speaking of... speaking of that... 324 00:13:13,169 --> 00:13:16,606 -(eerie music plays) -Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. 325 00:13:16,706 --> 00:13:20,176 Candyman. Candyman! 326 00:13:20,276 --> 00:13:21,978 -(music stops) -I knew he wouldn't show up. 327 00:13:22,078 --> 00:13:25,014 Cheap bastard owed me $50. 328 00:13:25,114 --> 00:13:26,716 But we wouldn't have Jordan Peele 329 00:13:26,816 --> 00:13:29,552 if it weren't for the pioneering Black horror films 330 00:13:29,652 --> 00:13:31,254 that today are mostly forgotten. 331 00:13:31,354 --> 00:13:33,256 Movies like Son of Ingagi, 332 00:13:33,356 --> 00:13:35,892 which, in 1940, became the first horror film 333 00:13:36,025 --> 00:13:38,127 to feature an all-Black cast. 334 00:13:38,227 --> 00:13:39,929 And unlike A Madea Halloween, 335 00:13:40,029 --> 00:13:42,498 they were all played by different people. 336 00:13:42,598 --> 00:13:44,267 Son of Ingagi bucked stereotypes 337 00:13:44,367 --> 00:13:47,303 by showing a Black middle class family 338 00:13:47,403 --> 00:13:49,639 battling a monster in their home, 339 00:13:49,739 --> 00:13:52,141 paving the way for the Winslow family 340 00:13:52,241 --> 00:13:54,710 to do the same thing against Steve Urkel. 341 00:13:54,811 --> 00:13:57,580 Ooh! Those suspenders. 342 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,683 And on top of that, the scientist in this movie 343 00:14:00,783 --> 00:14:03,085 is an old Black woman. 344 00:14:03,186 --> 00:14:05,454 It was like a scary Hidden Figures. 345 00:14:05,555 --> 00:14:07,190 Although I have to be honest. 346 00:14:07,290 --> 00:14:10,092 I found Hidden Figures to be pretty scary, too. 347 00:14:10,193 --> 00:14:12,695 All that damn math. Ooh. 348 00:14:12,795 --> 00:14:15,865 Another major film in Black horror was 1968's 349 00:14:15,965 --> 00:14:18,801 Night of the Living Dead, starring Duane Jones, 350 00:14:18,901 --> 00:14:20,937 the first Black actor to play the lead role 351 00:14:21,070 --> 00:14:23,172 in a mainstream horror hit. 352 00:14:23,272 --> 00:14:25,374 He's a hero for most of the movie, 353 00:14:25,475 --> 00:14:27,276 and then his character ends up getting shot 354 00:14:27,376 --> 00:14:29,645 by white folks who mistake him for a zombie. 355 00:14:29,745 --> 00:14:32,782 It was a profound lesson on racism. 356 00:14:32,882 --> 00:14:35,852 It is the living who are racist, 357 00:14:36,018 --> 00:14:38,921 and we should all strive to be more like the zombies, 358 00:14:39,021 --> 00:14:42,391 who eat the brains of any race. 359 00:14:42,492 --> 00:14:46,062 Wait. Is that the lesson? 360 00:14:46,162 --> 00:14:48,231 Once the 1970s hit 361 00:14:48,331 --> 00:14:50,766 and Black exploitation films got big, 362 00:14:50,867 --> 00:14:53,436 horror movies got a little bit wild. 363 00:14:53,536 --> 00:14:55,905 We got movies like Blacula, 364 00:14:56,038 --> 00:14:58,574 Blackenstein, Dr. Black, Mr. Hyde, 365 00:14:58,674 --> 00:15:00,843 and of course, Abby. 366 00:15:00,943 --> 00:15:03,045 It was originally titled The Black-xorcist, 367 00:15:03,112 --> 00:15:04,680 but they got in trouble for copying that movie 368 00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:05,882 where the little white girl 369 00:15:06,048 --> 00:15:07,683 tinkles on the living room carpet. 370 00:15:07,783 --> 00:15:10,720 Then there was Petey Wheatstraw. 371 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:14,824 In 1977, Dolemite star Rudy Ray Moore plays 372 00:15:14,924 --> 00:15:17,793 a comedian who is killed by his rivals 373 00:15:17,894 --> 00:15:19,795 for being too successful. 374 00:15:19,896 --> 00:15:21,898 Today they would have just found his old tweets. 375 00:15:22,064 --> 00:15:24,567 That's how you get rid... 376 00:15:24,667 --> 00:15:27,904 Anyway, the comedian makes a deal with the devil 377 00:15:28,070 --> 00:15:31,474 to come back to life and get revenge on his killers 378 00:15:31,574 --> 00:15:35,111 by using the devil's magic pimp cane. 379 00:15:35,211 --> 00:15:36,646 Now, the first question is, 380 00:15:36,746 --> 00:15:39,215 why would the devil have a pimp cane? 381 00:15:39,315 --> 00:15:40,383 I do not know. 382 00:15:40,483 --> 00:15:42,018 I'm gonna be honest with you, 383 00:15:42,051 --> 00:15:45,021 I don't even know why pimps have pimp canes. 384 00:15:45,054 --> 00:15:47,023 Does pimping cause sprained ankles? 385 00:15:47,123 --> 00:15:50,760 Is that why pimping ain't easy? 386 00:15:50,860 --> 00:15:52,595 I don't know. 387 00:15:52,695 --> 00:15:56,599 This movie raised many questions for me. 388 00:15:56,699 --> 00:15:59,502 And finally, one Black horror character 389 00:15:59,602 --> 00:16:01,771 that doesn't get the credit she deserves 390 00:16:01,871 --> 00:16:04,373 was Rachel True's performance 391 00:16:04,474 --> 00:16:08,878 as Rochelle in the 1996 movie The Craft. 392 00:16:09,045 --> 00:16:10,646 Now, although The Craft 393 00:16:10,746 --> 00:16:14,183 is not technically a Black horror movie, 394 00:16:14,283 --> 00:16:17,119 the sound track does include a song by Jewel, 395 00:16:17,220 --> 00:16:19,155 and there's few things more terrifying 396 00:16:19,255 --> 00:16:21,057 to Black people than that. 397 00:16:21,157 --> 00:16:24,494 Ooh, Jewel! 398 00:16:24,594 --> 00:16:28,598 But Rochelle, Rochelle was a ground-breaking character 399 00:16:28,698 --> 00:16:30,233 for Black women in horror. 400 00:16:30,333 --> 00:16:32,969 She takes revenge on a racist bully at school 401 00:16:33,069 --> 00:16:35,004 after becoming a powerful witch. 402 00:16:35,104 --> 00:16:38,541 Which is literally Black girl magic. 403 00:16:38,641 --> 00:16:40,810 Now, this character was especially important 404 00:16:40,910 --> 00:16:43,045 because it was the 1990s. 405 00:16:43,146 --> 00:16:45,681 Teen horror was in the midst of a renaissance, 406 00:16:45,781 --> 00:16:48,084 but Black girls didn't really get to see themselves 407 00:16:48,184 --> 00:16:50,086 in anything scary. 408 00:16:50,186 --> 00:16:52,321 All they had was Scary Spice. 409 00:16:52,421 --> 00:16:55,224 She wasn't even that scary. Posh was the scary one. 410 00:16:55,324 --> 00:17:00,062 Always looked like she just got back from poisoning James Bond. 411 00:17:00,163 --> 00:17:02,031 Well, that's all the time we have for today. 412 00:17:02,098 --> 00:17:04,066 I'm Roy Wood Jr., 413 00:17:04,167 --> 00:17:06,035 and this has been CP Time. 414 00:17:06,102 --> 00:17:08,671 And remember, we're for the culture. 415 00:17:08,771 --> 00:17:10,807 I'm going to try this again. 416 00:17:10,907 --> 00:17:13,276 Candyman! 417 00:17:14,510 --> 00:17:16,846 Oh, there you are. 418 00:17:16,946 --> 00:17:18,848 Where's my money, Daniel? 419 00:17:18,948 --> 00:17:20,216 ♪ ♪ 420 00:17:20,316 --> 00:17:21,517 Thank you so much for that, Roy. 421 00:17:21,617 --> 00:17:22,852 All right, when we come back, 422 00:17:22,952 --> 00:17:25,054 Republican congressman Dan Crenshaw 423 00:17:25,121 --> 00:17:27,690 will be joining me right here in the studio. 424 00:17:27,790 --> 00:17:29,625 You don't want to miss it. 425 00:17:31,061 --> 00:17:32,662 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 426 00:17:32,762 --> 00:17:33,997 My guest tonight is Dan Crenshaw, 427 00:17:34,097 --> 00:17:35,699 Republican congressman from Texas 428 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:37,567 and author of Fortitude. 429 00:17:37,667 --> 00:17:40,036 He's here to talk about immigration and border policy, 430 00:17:40,136 --> 00:17:42,806 climate change and cancel culture. 431 00:17:42,906 --> 00:17:44,741 Representative Crenshaw, welcome to the show. 432 00:17:44,841 --> 00:17:46,476 Trevor, thanks for... thanks for having me. 433 00:17:46,576 --> 00:17:48,578 Oh, thank you for being here. You... I think you-you might be 434 00:17:48,678 --> 00:17:51,114 the first Republican lawmaker we've had on in maybe... 435 00:17:51,214 --> 00:17:53,383 Or let me say the first Republican lawmaker we've had on 436 00:17:53,483 --> 00:17:56,987 who isn't leaving Congress in maybe, like, over a year. 437 00:17:57,087 --> 00:17:58,455 -So thank you so much for being here. -All right. Wow. 438 00:17:58,555 --> 00:18:00,223 -That's exciting. -Um... 439 00:18:00,323 --> 00:18:02,559 I-I was reading up on you, and there are a few things 440 00:18:02,659 --> 00:18:04,261 I-I never knew about you as a person. 441 00:18:04,361 --> 00:18:06,463 Um, one, 37. We're both 37 years old. 442 00:18:06,563 --> 00:18:08,131 -It's a good age. -Uh, it's a good age. Yeah. 443 00:18:08,231 --> 00:18:11,401 Um, we've both lived in multiple countries around the world. 444 00:18:11,501 --> 00:18:14,271 -Mm-hmm. -And-and when I read, like, your life story, 445 00:18:14,371 --> 00:18:16,239 living in I think it was Ecuador and Colombia, 446 00:18:16,339 --> 00:18:18,275 I-I couldn't help wondering. 447 00:18:18,375 --> 00:18:21,945 I was like, I wonder what ideas you have of America 448 00:18:22,045 --> 00:18:24,180 that you think have been shaped 449 00:18:24,281 --> 00:18:26,249 by living in other places. 'Cause I know I have that. 450 00:18:26,349 --> 00:18:27,651 -Yeah. -You know, whereas there are some people 451 00:18:27,751 --> 00:18:28,785 who've only lived in America, 452 00:18:28,885 --> 00:18:30,153 and they see America in a certain way. 453 00:18:30,186 --> 00:18:31,187 What is, like, something that you think 454 00:18:31,288 --> 00:18:32,422 has shaped your views on America 455 00:18:32,522 --> 00:18:34,157 because you've lived in other countries? 456 00:18:34,190 --> 00:18:37,894 Well, living in other countries, it-it's fun. 457 00:18:37,994 --> 00:18:40,730 I-I love my upbringing. I plan to go back 458 00:18:40,830 --> 00:18:42,198 to my 20-year high school reunion 459 00:18:42,299 --> 00:18:43,700 in Colombia next year. 460 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,304 And, uh, it-it shaped me in a lot of positive ways, I think. 461 00:18:47,404 --> 00:18:50,373 Um, how does it view... make my view of America different? 462 00:18:50,473 --> 00:18:53,677 Um, it certainly makes you appreciate America in many ways. 463 00:18:53,777 --> 00:18:55,912 Helps you understand how other people 464 00:18:56,012 --> 00:18:58,214 -think about the United States. -Oh, that's interesting. 465 00:18:58,315 --> 00:19:00,317 You know? 'Cause I-I was... I was the only American 466 00:19:00,417 --> 00:19:02,919 -in my entire grade throughout high school. -Right. 467 00:19:03,019 --> 00:19:04,921 'Cause I-I spent all four years of high school in Bogotá. 468 00:19:05,021 --> 00:19:06,957 I was the only American that was there all four years. 469 00:19:07,057 --> 00:19:10,627 (chuckles): So, uh, I got a lot of questions as a result, 470 00:19:10,727 --> 00:19:12,662 and I had to... I had to defend my country, 471 00:19:12,762 --> 00:19:16,199 uh, as a result, in ways that I, frankly, wasn't prepared for. 472 00:19:16,299 --> 00:19:17,500 -Right. -So, that-that shaped my view. 473 00:19:17,601 --> 00:19:19,202 What I like about America 474 00:19:19,302 --> 00:19:21,871 and I think what we should embrace as Americans 475 00:19:21,972 --> 00:19:25,275 is this idea that people can become America. 476 00:19:25,375 --> 00:19:26,610 -Uh-huh. -American. 477 00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:28,211 Uh, you can can't become French. 478 00:19:28,244 --> 00:19:29,813 -Right. Right. -Right? Y-You can't... 479 00:19:29,913 --> 00:19:31,781 I'm-I'm not even sure you can really become German. 480 00:19:31,881 --> 00:19:33,950 -Right. -Uh, but you can become an American, 481 00:19:34,050 --> 00:19:36,186 because the whole point of being an American 482 00:19:36,286 --> 00:19:38,455 is that we sort of share this-this set of ideals, 483 00:19:38,555 --> 00:19:40,423 this set of history, um, 484 00:19:40,523 --> 00:19:43,693 this-this creed, if you will, of Americanism, 485 00:19:43,793 --> 00:19:47,297 of Western values that makes us an American, 486 00:19:47,397 --> 00:19:48,765 and I think that's a very cool thing. 487 00:19:48,865 --> 00:19:51,301 Yeah, it's an interesting idea, because America in itself 488 00:19:51,401 --> 00:19:53,203 is an experiment. You know? It's not something 489 00:19:53,303 --> 00:19:54,738 that's ever been repeated anywhere else in the world. 490 00:19:54,838 --> 00:19:56,906 I've always been fascinated by it as a... as a concept. 491 00:19:57,007 --> 00:19:59,843 Um, when I was reading through your story, though, 492 00:19:59,943 --> 00:20:01,077 I... it made me wonder. I was like, 493 00:20:01,177 --> 00:20:03,179 "Man, this man probably has 494 00:20:03,213 --> 00:20:05,482 "interesting and nuanced views on immigration 495 00:20:05,582 --> 00:20:07,183 "that are shaped by ideas 496 00:20:07,284 --> 00:20:09,719 that aren't just formed in America." 497 00:20:09,819 --> 00:20:11,454 You know? As somebody who's fluent in Spanish, 498 00:20:11,554 --> 00:20:13,023 as somebody who's lived in Colombia... 499 00:20:13,189 --> 00:20:15,058 As you said, you're gonna go back to your 20-year reunion. 500 00:20:15,191 --> 00:20:16,860 You have friends, you-you have people 501 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,361 you would consider even almost family 502 00:20:18,461 --> 00:20:20,330 -on that side of the world. -Mm-hmm. 503 00:20:20,430 --> 00:20:22,265 Let's-let's talk a little bit about immigration, 504 00:20:22,365 --> 00:20:24,968 because it feels like America is stuck 505 00:20:25,068 --> 00:20:26,970 in its immigration conversation. 506 00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:29,205 You know? There is a misconception 507 00:20:29,272 --> 00:20:32,042 about what the problems are, what causes the problems, 508 00:20:32,142 --> 00:20:33,576 how America can move forward. 509 00:20:33,677 --> 00:20:36,146 As somebody who's lived in other countries, 510 00:20:36,212 --> 00:20:39,716 some of them which influence America's immigration story, 511 00:20:39,816 --> 00:20:42,385 what do you think the problem is? 512 00:20:42,485 --> 00:20:43,687 And then maybe afterwards, we'll talk 513 00:20:43,787 --> 00:20:45,889 about potential solutions going forward. 514 00:20:45,989 --> 00:20:49,492 Well, look, I-I view the problem as illegal immigration. 515 00:20:49,592 --> 00:20:52,329 I'm not sure we have a problem with legal immigration. 516 00:20:52,429 --> 00:20:53,797 It depends on who you ask, of course. 517 00:20:53,897 --> 00:20:55,966 I personally don't have a problem with legal immigration. 518 00:20:56,066 --> 00:20:59,469 Uh, my stepmom is a legal immigrant. 519 00:20:59,569 --> 00:21:00,971 Uh, immigrated from Peru. 520 00:21:01,071 --> 00:21:03,206 So, you know, I-I think most Americans 521 00:21:03,306 --> 00:21:04,975 are not anti-immigrant, 522 00:21:05,075 --> 00:21:07,744 -Right. -I-I don't think we should paint them that way. 523 00:21:07,844 --> 00:21:10,013 But I think the vast majority of Americans 524 00:21:10,180 --> 00:21:12,048 want our border secured, you know, and that's the crux 525 00:21:12,182 --> 00:21:13,717 of the debate that's going on right now. 526 00:21:13,817 --> 00:21:15,385 We have to differentiate between this conversation 527 00:21:15,485 --> 00:21:18,254 -about ill-illegal immigration and legal immigration. -Mm-hmm. 528 00:21:18,355 --> 00:21:20,924 -So, wait. Okay, so, uh... -So, what's the problem 529 00:21:21,024 --> 00:21:22,525 -with illegal immigration? -No, no, no, no. No, no. 530 00:21:22,626 --> 00:21:24,194 L-Let's talk about the-the conversation 531 00:21:24,294 --> 00:21:25,295 -in and around that. -Yeah. 532 00:21:25,395 --> 00:21:26,563 This is what it feels like to me. 533 00:21:26,663 --> 00:21:27,964 Every few years in America, 534 00:21:28,064 --> 00:21:30,166 the conversation around the border changes. 535 00:21:30,267 --> 00:21:33,336 -Mm-hmm. -You know? So, uh, when-when Trump was in office, 536 00:21:33,436 --> 00:21:35,605 people were like, "Oh, yeah, he's shutting down the border. 537 00:21:35,705 --> 00:21:38,008 "He's locking down the border. He's closing down the border, 538 00:21:38,141 --> 00:21:39,609 and he's building a border wall." 539 00:21:39,709 --> 00:21:40,877 Then when Biden's in power, people are like, 540 00:21:40,977 --> 00:21:42,379 "The borders are wide-open. The bor..." 541 00:21:42,479 --> 00:21:44,347 It seems like the rhetoric switches wildly. 542 00:21:44,447 --> 00:21:46,516 -Yeah. -Now, America has its spikes up and down. 543 00:21:46,616 --> 00:21:49,386 People coming in, people don't. People come and people don't. 544 00:21:49,486 --> 00:21:50,987 But, like, you've-you've said this, 545 00:21:51,154 --> 00:21:52,455 and-and that's something that I... that I appreciate. 546 00:21:52,555 --> 00:21:54,624 You've said we shouldn't be using extreme rhetoric 547 00:21:54,724 --> 00:21:56,593 -to talk about these problems. -Yeah. 548 00:21:56,693 --> 00:21:59,462 Like, do you think the border's wide-open? 549 00:21:59,562 --> 00:22:01,965 Uh, it-it would seem that way effectively. 550 00:22:02,065 --> 00:22:05,268 So, y-you've had 1.5 million encounters 551 00:22:05,368 --> 00:22:08,038 on the border this year. That's an absolute record. 552 00:22:08,171 --> 00:22:10,006 Uh, out of that, hundreds of thousands 553 00:22:10,173 --> 00:22:11,574 have been released into the Interior. 554 00:22:11,675 --> 00:22:13,877 So, this catch and release idea that we keep hearing about, 555 00:22:13,977 --> 00:22:15,412 it is effectively true. 556 00:22:15,512 --> 00:22:17,414 Um, and there's a bunch of reasons for that. 557 00:22:17,514 --> 00:22:19,182 Uh, there's an incentive structure 558 00:22:19,249 --> 00:22:21,017 that incentivizes people to bring minors across 559 00:22:21,184 --> 00:22:23,053 because our courts can't deal with that. 560 00:22:23,186 --> 00:22:24,788 I-I could go into a long history of why that is 561 00:22:24,888 --> 00:22:26,356 if you'd like me to, but it gets wonky. 562 00:22:26,456 --> 00:22:28,458 Uh, but the point is is that's the... 563 00:22:28,558 --> 00:22:30,493 that's the nature of the problem right now. 564 00:22:30,594 --> 00:22:31,995 -Mm-hmm. -It's existed since about 2014. 565 00:22:32,128 --> 00:22:33,196 That's why you see these waves. 566 00:22:33,296 --> 00:22:34,598 And, so, there's certain policies 567 00:22:34,698 --> 00:22:36,466 that can prevent that incentive structure. 568 00:22:36,566 --> 00:22:38,602 You can keep people in Mexico while they... 569 00:22:38,702 --> 00:22:40,670 -while they claim their asylum claim. -Mm-hmm. 570 00:22:40,770 --> 00:22:42,973 You can have people claim asylum within their home countries. 571 00:22:43,139 --> 00:22:44,841 -Right. -That was part of the Asylum Cooperative Agreements 572 00:22:44,941 --> 00:22:46,610 we established with the Northern Triangle countries. 573 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:49,012 So, what Biden did is reverse all of these policies, 574 00:22:49,145 --> 00:22:50,714 and that's why you're seeing this incentive structure 575 00:22:50,814 --> 00:22:52,415 change so radically, 'cause people have this idea 576 00:22:52,515 --> 00:22:53,850 that they can come across the border 577 00:22:53,950 --> 00:22:55,852 and they will get a bus ticket to wherever they want, 578 00:22:55,952 --> 00:22:58,054 and maybe they show up for the court date, maybe they don't. 579 00:22:58,154 --> 00:22:59,522 Do you think people keep abreast 580 00:22:59,623 --> 00:23:00,957 with America's laws in that way? Or do you think... 581 00:23:01,057 --> 00:23:02,258 Like, so, for instance, with the Haitian immigrants, 582 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,526 you had immigrants saying they... 583 00:23:03,627 --> 00:23:06,162 "We heard that Biden would let us in." 584 00:23:06,263 --> 00:23:08,164 And, I mean, that's not what Biden said. 585 00:23:08,265 --> 00:23:11,001 Do you get what I'm saying? So, so, is there some sort 586 00:23:11,167 --> 00:23:12,669 of misinformation that's also going out there, 587 00:23:12,769 --> 00:23:14,204 or do you think people are just hearing 588 00:23:14,304 --> 00:23:15,872 this-this overwhelming rhetoric that the borders are wi... 589 00:23:15,972 --> 00:23:17,307 Like, sometimes I wonder 590 00:23:17,407 --> 00:23:19,075 if people saying the borders are wide-open 591 00:23:19,175 --> 00:23:21,244 is what people might be hearing, and then they go like, 592 00:23:21,344 --> 00:23:22,479 "Oh, then we should go to America 593 00:23:22,579 --> 00:23:23,847 'cause they said the borders are wide-open." 594 00:23:23,947 --> 00:23:25,582 Well, I-I don't think these immigrants 595 00:23:25,682 --> 00:23:26,916 are watching Fox News, 596 00:23:27,017 --> 00:23:28,351 -and they don't follow me on Instagram. -(laughs) 597 00:23:28,451 --> 00:23:30,487 -So, I-I... -You never know. 598 00:23:30,587 --> 00:23:32,589 -(laughs) -News travels. You never know. 599 00:23:32,689 --> 00:23:34,891 News travels, but-but that is the point, actually. 600 00:23:34,991 --> 00:23:36,493 And it... And it travels mostly on social media 601 00:23:36,593 --> 00:23:37,761 and through their networks, 602 00:23:37,861 --> 00:23:39,696 and it's also promulgated by the drug cartels. 603 00:23:39,796 --> 00:23:41,498 So, the biggest winner in all of this 604 00:23:41,598 --> 00:23:44,200 is the north, uh, the north Mexico drug cartels. 605 00:23:44,301 --> 00:23:47,871 -Right, right, right. -They get maybe $300 to $500 per person 606 00:23:47,971 --> 00:23:49,539 to get somebody across the border. 607 00:23:49,639 --> 00:23:51,675 -Mm-hmm. -Nobody gets through that border without them. 608 00:23:51,775 --> 00:23:53,443 They have the best border security in the world. 609 00:23:53,543 --> 00:23:55,011 Um, so they make millions. 610 00:23:55,145 --> 00:23:56,947 And, by the way, that's risk-free money, too. 611 00:23:57,047 --> 00:23:58,648 They don't have to be trafficking drugs anymore. 612 00:23:58,748 --> 00:24:00,550 -Mm-hmm. -You can get caught trafficking drugs. 613 00:24:00,650 --> 00:24:02,719 Here, they're staying on the Mexican side and they're... 614 00:24:02,819 --> 00:24:03,887 -making people go over. -Sending the people across. Right. 615 00:24:03,987 --> 00:24:05,889 So, there's a lot of human trafficking 616 00:24:05,989 --> 00:24:09,292 that occurs there, too, so none of this is... is good 617 00:24:09,392 --> 00:24:12,829 in any way. And... and I fail to see how it's compassionate 618 00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:14,931 to promulgate those open border policies 619 00:24:15,031 --> 00:24:16,967 when you can disincentivize it 620 00:24:17,067 --> 00:24:18,301 and reduce that kind of human trafficking 621 00:24:18,401 --> 00:24:20,437 and reduce the money... the-the money flowing 622 00:24:20,537 --> 00:24:22,539 -to these drug cartels. -Right, right, right. 623 00:24:22,639 --> 00:24:23,840 It's interesting, because, you know, 624 00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:25,408 it's not a uniquely American problem, 625 00:24:25,508 --> 00:24:28,378 and maybe that's something that I've always struggled with 626 00:24:28,478 --> 00:24:29,779 in seeing these conversations. 627 00:24:29,879 --> 00:24:32,315 Any country that shares a border with a nation 628 00:24:32,415 --> 00:24:34,517 that is going through turmoil in some way, shape or form... 629 00:24:34,618 --> 00:24:36,419 -Mm-hmm. -...is going to experience some sort of influx. 630 00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:40,390 That is natural, especially when one country is doing much better 631 00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:42,158 when it comes to its finances. 632 00:24:42,258 --> 00:24:45,028 So, when you look at the coming in, 633 00:24:45,128 --> 00:24:47,764 when you look at DACA, when you look at these programs, 634 00:24:47,864 --> 00:24:49,933 one-- what do you do about the people who are already here, 635 00:24:50,033 --> 00:24:51,468 who've been here, who've spent their whole lives here, 636 00:24:51,568 --> 00:24:53,136 -who've grown up here as children? -Mm-hmm. 637 00:24:53,236 --> 00:24:55,138 Do you think America, at some point has to say, 638 00:24:55,205 --> 00:24:57,641 "Look the people are here, it'll cost us a fortune 639 00:24:57,741 --> 00:25:00,143 "to get them out, and for all intents and purposes," 640 00:25:00,176 --> 00:25:02,479 as you've said, "they've become American"? 641 00:25:02,579 --> 00:25:07,150 Yeah. So Republicans have been... have been pretty willing 642 00:25:07,183 --> 00:25:08,551 -to have a conversation about DACA. -Mm-hmm. 643 00:25:08,652 --> 00:25:10,720 All we asked is that you secure the border. 644 00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:13,356 Now, DACA, as defined by the Obama administration-- 645 00:25:13,456 --> 00:25:14,658 see, that's very different 646 00:25:14,758 --> 00:25:16,259 than how they've started to define it now. 647 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,661 It's important that people distinguish 648 00:25:17,761 --> 00:25:19,362 these two definitions because what Democrats have done 649 00:25:19,462 --> 00:25:20,664 in the last two years, 650 00:25:20,764 --> 00:25:22,732 multiple times has passed the DREAMER Act, 651 00:25:22,832 --> 00:25:24,401 which would completely change the definition 652 00:25:24,501 --> 00:25:26,403 of DACA recipients to basically mean 653 00:25:26,503 --> 00:25:28,171 your age doesn't matter, when you came doesn't matter, 654 00:25:28,204 --> 00:25:29,773 which effectively means everyone, okay, so, so... 655 00:25:29,873 --> 00:25:32,809 -Yeah. -I understand. So you're arguing the way Obama 656 00:25:32,909 --> 00:25:34,945 -and his administration... -I'm very sympathetic to somebody 657 00:25:35,111 --> 00:25:37,213 -who doesn't even speak Spanish who was brought here... -Right. 658 00:25:37,314 --> 00:25:40,383 ...as a child and giving them some kind of legal security. 659 00:25:40,483 --> 00:25:42,919 Very... I'm very sympathetic to that. 660 00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:44,921 But when it comes to broader immigration reforms, 661 00:25:45,021 --> 00:25:46,222 okay, what do you do? 662 00:25:46,323 --> 00:25:47,557 What do you do with the millions of people here? 663 00:25:47,657 --> 00:25:48,925 It's a very good question. 664 00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:50,660 The first you do is you have to stop the inflow. 665 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,829 You have to stop the illegal crossings. I hope we... 666 00:25:52,929 --> 00:25:55,265 I want to get to this point in America where we all agree 667 00:25:55,365 --> 00:25:56,499 that we should have zero tolerance 668 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,535 for illegal immigration primarily because 669 00:25:58,635 --> 00:26:00,270 it cuts in front of the line of legal immigrants 670 00:26:00,370 --> 00:26:01,771 -who want to do this the right way. -Mm-hmm. 671 00:26:01,871 --> 00:26:03,139 This is very... I'm from Houston. 672 00:26:03,239 --> 00:26:04,541 It's the most diverse city in America. 673 00:26:04,641 --> 00:26:06,242 I don't think a lot of people know that about Houston. 674 00:26:06,343 --> 00:26:08,878 Um, we talk to legal immigrants all the time. 675 00:26:08,979 --> 00:26:10,380 They're very frustrated by this. 676 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,382 Again, my stepmother is a legal immigrant. They feel... 677 00:26:12,482 --> 00:26:13,683 'Cause they feel like people are cutting the line. 678 00:26:13,783 --> 00:26:15,151 They feel like people are cutting the line. 679 00:26:15,251 --> 00:26:16,419 They feel like an injustice is incurring against them, 680 00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:17,754 and I think they're right. 681 00:26:17,854 --> 00:26:19,155 Um, just because there's a long line doesn't mean 682 00:26:19,222 --> 00:26:20,390 you get to cut it. And by the way, 683 00:26:20,490 --> 00:26:21,891 there will always be a long line. 684 00:26:21,992 --> 00:26:23,560 For this country, there will always be the massive line. 685 00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:24,894 If you doubled the number of legal immigrants 686 00:26:24,995 --> 00:26:26,896 we have next year, tripled it, quadrupled it, 687 00:26:26,997 --> 00:26:28,365 they'd still be a massive line. 688 00:26:28,465 --> 00:26:31,167 -But-but America's not-not doing that. -No, we're not. 689 00:26:31,268 --> 00:26:33,103 That's one of the things I've been intrigued by is, um, 690 00:26:33,203 --> 00:26:35,538 you know, when you talk to some of the architects 691 00:26:35,639 --> 00:26:37,173 of America's original immigration policy, 692 00:26:37,274 --> 00:26:40,110 they have said that America hasn't done a good job 693 00:26:40,176 --> 00:26:42,712 -of adjusting those numbers of who comes in and how. -Yeah. 694 00:26:42,812 --> 00:26:44,714 And, I mean, we see this in businesses, 695 00:26:44,814 --> 00:26:46,216 we see this with farming, we see... 696 00:26:46,316 --> 00:26:47,751 You see them saying, farmers saying... 697 00:26:47,851 --> 00:26:49,419 -And it's an honest debate to be had there. Yup. -Yeah, yeah. 698 00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:51,254 Yeah, people say like, "We don't have the workers. We need..." 699 00:26:51,354 --> 00:26:52,822 -Yup. -Any country needs a steady flow of immigration. 700 00:26:52,922 --> 00:26:54,824 It feels like, on that side, 701 00:26:54,924 --> 00:26:56,459 America hasn't done a particularly good job 702 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,696 of updating how many people it actually needs to come in. 703 00:26:59,796 --> 00:27:01,197 Fair. And I think we can debate 704 00:27:01,298 --> 00:27:02,899 -which way those numbers should go. -Right, right, right. 705 00:27:02,999 --> 00:27:04,801 Maybe it should depend on employment numbers 706 00:27:04,901 --> 00:27:06,336 here in this country, 707 00:27:06,436 --> 00:27:08,638 -maybe it should depend on a number of factors. -Mm-hmm. 708 00:27:08,738 --> 00:27:10,307 We want to have those conversations. 709 00:27:10,407 --> 00:27:11,775 And-and 'cause right then, we're talking 710 00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:13,276 about changing things on the margin 711 00:27:13,376 --> 00:27:14,611 -for illegal immigration. -Right, right. 712 00:27:14,711 --> 00:27:15,912 I think those are worthy debates to have. 713 00:27:16,012 --> 00:27:17,981 Let's talk a little bit about 714 00:27:18,148 --> 00:27:19,449 some of the books you've written. 715 00:27:19,549 --> 00:27:22,585 Um, you know, you-you speak your mind. 716 00:27:22,686 --> 00:27:26,156 You are, I think, a Republican who presents themselves 717 00:27:26,256 --> 00:27:28,058 as somebody who's willing to have discourse with people. 718 00:27:28,158 --> 00:27:29,592 I mean, you're here with me, you know? 719 00:27:29,693 --> 00:27:33,196 You've always said, people need to avoid extreme rhetoric. 720 00:27:33,296 --> 00:27:35,465 And in some of your books, you know, I'll paraphrase, 721 00:27:35,565 --> 00:27:38,168 and forgive me if I don't phrase it correctly, 722 00:27:38,268 --> 00:27:40,570 but one of the lines that stuck out to me is you said, 723 00:27:40,670 --> 00:27:44,040 um, "You know, we have to be careful not to offend people. 724 00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:45,575 "We shouldn't try to go out of our way 725 00:27:45,675 --> 00:27:47,510 -to offend people as human beings." -Mm-hmm. 726 00:27:47,611 --> 00:27:49,980 "But at the same time, we can also develop a lot of strength 727 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,617 -by not being offended by everything." -Mm-hmm. Right. 728 00:27:53,717 --> 00:27:56,519 In and around the culture of what people want 729 00:27:56,620 --> 00:27:58,088 -to call cancel culture... -Mm-hmm. 730 00:27:58,188 --> 00:27:59,823 You know, people go, Woke this and woke that, 731 00:27:59,923 --> 00:28:01,291 and cancel culture. 732 00:28:01,391 --> 00:28:03,893 It seems like you're commenting on this, 733 00:28:03,994 --> 00:28:06,096 but I would love to know what your opinion 734 00:28:06,196 --> 00:28:07,697 of cancel culture is. 735 00:28:07,797 --> 00:28:09,833 -Yeah. -First of all, do you think it's a real thing? 736 00:28:09,933 --> 00:28:11,768 And second of all, what do you think it actually means? 737 00:28:11,868 --> 00:28:14,070 It means a couple of different things. 738 00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:17,307 So, cancel culture, in modern times, um, 739 00:28:17,407 --> 00:28:20,110 it can mean... it can mean refusing to forgive someone 740 00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:22,245 -for what was clearly a mistake. -Okay. 741 00:28:22,345 --> 00:28:24,114 Okay. And I think, in my story of cancel culture, 742 00:28:24,214 --> 00:28:26,883 going on SNL, that's sort of what that was. 743 00:28:26,983 --> 00:28:29,286 Right, 'cause there's a world where what Pete Davidson said... 744 00:28:29,386 --> 00:28:30,754 -Right. Right. -...he didn't quite mean it. 745 00:28:30,854 --> 00:28:32,689 He didn't quite mean it as badly 746 00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:34,958 as people might have interpreted it. 747 00:28:35,058 --> 00:28:36,660 -Now, if they did mean it, it's a different story. -Right. 748 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,628 Okay. Now you have to deal with that. 749 00:28:38,728 --> 00:28:41,731 But when somebody takes an old Tweet or whatever it is-- 750 00:28:41,831 --> 00:28:44,434 and you see this constantly-- um, we have to ask ourselves, 751 00:28:44,534 --> 00:28:46,937 "Is that fair? Is there really no forgiveness in our society?" 752 00:28:47,037 --> 00:28:49,239 -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -"Is there no redemption allowed 753 00:28:49,339 --> 00:28:50,674 in our society?" So that's one aspect 754 00:28:50,774 --> 00:28:52,542 of cancel culture as I see it. 755 00:28:52,642 --> 00:28:54,444 Um, another aspect, which I think is 756 00:28:54,544 --> 00:28:57,814 what probably right wingers like a lot less is... is this 757 00:28:57,914 --> 00:29:02,018 making traditional and normal things taboo all of a sudden. 758 00:29:02,185 --> 00:29:04,754 -Such as? -So this gets into, okay, we need 759 00:29:04,854 --> 00:29:06,790 to cancel Aunt Jemima, right? 760 00:29:06,890 --> 00:29:08,258 We need to cancel PAW Patrol. 761 00:29:08,358 --> 00:29:10,026 These things that didn't offend anybody five seconds ago 762 00:29:10,193 --> 00:29:11,261 -are now deeply offensive... -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 763 00:29:11,361 --> 00:29:12,629 ...and need to be canceled. 764 00:29:12,729 --> 00:29:14,197 -I think that's what drives people crazy. -Right. 765 00:29:14,264 --> 00:29:17,434 But some things did offend people, and don't get me wrong. 766 00:29:17,534 --> 00:29:21,237 Like PAW Patrol, and I think some of the things are... 767 00:29:21,338 --> 00:29:23,206 -It can go too far. -Yeah. No, no, no. I think... 768 00:29:23,273 --> 00:29:24,608 I think there are combinations. 769 00:29:24,708 --> 00:29:26,009 Sometimes I think what happens is, 770 00:29:26,109 --> 00:29:29,679 there are people online who just chime in. 771 00:29:29,779 --> 00:29:31,781 -Yeah. -They're not really invested, they just chime in. 772 00:29:31,881 --> 00:29:34,150 -Right. -Then the algorithms online go like, 773 00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:35,585 "Oh, it's become a thing," and it wasn't really a thing. 774 00:29:35,685 --> 00:29:36,953 -Yeah. It's trending. Yeah. -Yeah, it's trending. 775 00:29:37,053 --> 00:29:38,388 Then it becomes a thing. 776 00:29:38,488 --> 00:29:39,723 Then the media outlets jump on it, and they go like, 777 00:29:39,823 --> 00:29:41,057 "They're trying to cancel." 778 00:29:41,157 --> 00:29:42,325 Then Fox will come from one side, "They cancelled." 779 00:29:42,425 --> 00:29:44,027 Then MSNBC comes from the other side. 780 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,795 But a lot of the time I find it's people 781 00:29:45,895 --> 00:29:47,797 who are just either criticizing. 782 00:29:47,897 --> 00:29:49,266 Sometimes they're just roasting something. 783 00:29:49,366 --> 00:29:52,002 Sometimes they're just making jokes and jumping on. 784 00:29:52,168 --> 00:29:54,237 I feel like... I feel like 785 00:29:54,337 --> 00:29:56,873 there's this weird attitude where now we have... 786 00:29:56,973 --> 00:29:59,576 we have lost our ability to separate canceling 787 00:29:59,676 --> 00:30:02,479 from criticism, from critique, 788 00:30:02,579 --> 00:30:04,247 -from accountability, even. -Yeah. Yes. 789 00:30:04,347 --> 00:30:06,449 -Do you know... do you get what I'm saying? -I do get 790 00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:07,984 what you're saying, and, um, 791 00:30:08,084 --> 00:30:09,986 and we do have to have that nuanced conversation. 792 00:30:10,086 --> 00:30:11,588 That's why I tried to define "cancel culture" 793 00:30:11,688 --> 00:30:13,056 the way I defined it. 794 00:30:13,189 --> 00:30:15,292 I did not define it as everybody jumping on somebody. 795 00:30:15,392 --> 00:30:16,893 -Right. -If you say something totally atrocious, 796 00:30:16,993 --> 00:30:18,328 -maybe you deserve to be jumped on. -Oh, okay. 797 00:30:18,428 --> 00:30:20,196 -Maybe you deserve to be piled on. -Okay. 798 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:22,699 You know, and we have... But... but did what...? 799 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:24,067 Is what you just said 800 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,902 -what everybody's been saying for years? -Right. 801 00:30:26,002 --> 00:30:28,305 I mean, was it really worth piling on you for this? 802 00:30:28,405 --> 00:30:30,507 And is it really worth kicking you out of society forever? 803 00:30:30,607 --> 00:30:32,442 That's why I say, it's the changing of taboos. 804 00:30:32,542 --> 00:30:34,010 That really is what we're talking about 805 00:30:34,144 --> 00:30:35,345 -with cancel culture. -Mm-hmm. 806 00:30:35,445 --> 00:30:36,813 And I totally agree with you. 807 00:30:36,913 --> 00:30:38,048 I think a lot of people at corporations, when they... 808 00:30:38,148 --> 00:30:39,816 'Cause... because I agree with you 809 00:30:39,916 --> 00:30:42,352 that a lot of times you see a bunch of people yelling online. 810 00:30:42,452 --> 00:30:44,354 -To me and you, that doesn't mean much to us. -Right. 811 00:30:44,454 --> 00:30:45,822 Because we put it into perspective. 812 00:30:45,922 --> 00:30:47,958 We're used to large amounts of people. 813 00:30:48,058 --> 00:30:49,225 I say, "Well, a thousand people 814 00:30:49,326 --> 00:30:50,560 "said something really mean about me, 815 00:30:50,660 --> 00:30:51,861 but it's only a thousand." 816 00:30:51,962 --> 00:30:53,229 -Like... -Right. 817 00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:54,631 You know, but some people are, like, "Oh, my God. 818 00:30:54,731 --> 00:30:56,199 -That's the end of my life." -Right, right, right. 819 00:30:56,299 --> 00:30:57,667 And a corporate CEO oftentimes, too. 820 00:30:57,767 --> 00:30:59,069 -"Well, we've got to pull that product." -Yes. Right. 821 00:30:59,169 --> 00:31:00,971 'Cause a thousand angry people on Twitter said so. 822 00:31:01,071 --> 00:31:02,939 And I encourage them to stand their ground, 823 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:04,774 because they're always rewarded for not giving in 824 00:31:04,874 --> 00:31:07,544 to some of these silly cancel culture initiatives. 825 00:31:07,644 --> 00:31:10,246 It feels like, for some people, 826 00:31:10,347 --> 00:31:13,850 Republicans are now trying to cancel books in schools. 827 00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:16,086 You know, Texas, I mean, your home state, 828 00:31:16,186 --> 00:31:18,088 is having this fight about Critical Race Theory. 829 00:31:18,188 --> 00:31:20,023 You know, some schools who didn't even have 830 00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:21,291 Critical Race Theory are fighting 831 00:31:21,391 --> 00:31:22,692 about Critical Race Theory. 832 00:31:22,792 --> 00:31:24,561 People are confused about what it is or isn't. 833 00:31:24,661 --> 00:31:26,563 You know, people are saying we shouldn't teach certain things, 834 00:31:26,663 --> 00:31:28,565 some books should be kicked out. 835 00:31:28,665 --> 00:31:30,567 It's confusing because it doesn't seem like everybody 836 00:31:30,667 --> 00:31:32,702 has the same definition for what the argument is. 837 00:31:32,802 --> 00:31:35,839 I do know that you have been outspoken on this. 838 00:31:35,939 --> 00:31:37,807 From your perspective, I would love to know 839 00:31:37,907 --> 00:31:40,810 what you think is going wrong in schools 840 00:31:40,910 --> 00:31:43,380 and why you think certain things should or shouldn't be taught. 841 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,515 Or, like, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, 842 00:31:45,615 --> 00:31:48,051 -so I'd love to know from you directly. -Yeah. 843 00:31:48,151 --> 00:31:50,186 So, take the Texas example-- I'm not a state legislature, 844 00:31:50,287 --> 00:31:52,322 so I can't speak in too much detail, 845 00:31:52,422 --> 00:31:54,658 but effectively, yes, they did ban CRT in schools. 846 00:31:54,758 --> 00:31:57,627 What they also did is increase, um, 847 00:31:57,727 --> 00:31:59,529 increase teaching about slavery, 848 00:31:59,629 --> 00:32:01,798 increase teaching about Jim Crow laws, 849 00:32:01,898 --> 00:32:04,267 so, 'cause a lot of people say, who support CRT, 850 00:32:04,367 --> 00:32:05,902 say, "Look, we're just teaching history." 851 00:32:06,002 --> 00:32:07,904 And we say, "No, that's not what CRT is." 852 00:32:08,004 --> 00:32:09,940 I think CRT is a misinterpretation of history, 853 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,175 and it leads to bad historical documents, 854 00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:13,510 like the 1619 Project, 855 00:32:13,610 --> 00:32:16,046 which a bunch of historians had to go back and debunk. 856 00:32:16,179 --> 00:32:19,716 -Right. -Okay? So, CRT is a narrative, it's a theory, 857 00:32:19,816 --> 00:32:21,851 Critical Race Theory, and it basically says 858 00:32:21,952 --> 00:32:24,187 that you should view institutions and society 859 00:32:24,220 --> 00:32:26,022 through the lens of race, primarily. 860 00:32:26,189 --> 00:32:28,391 Or rather that, if I understand correctly, 861 00:32:28,491 --> 00:32:31,728 or rather you should acknowledge that race played a major role 862 00:32:31,828 --> 00:32:34,130 in the definition of some of those structures, I think. 863 00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:36,800 -And I think I can acknowledge that, what you just said, -Okay. 864 00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:38,602 I can certainly... Are there reverberations 865 00:32:38,702 --> 00:32:41,137 from past discrimination in modern society? 866 00:32:41,237 --> 00:32:43,206 -Yes. -We can have an honest conversation about that. 867 00:32:43,306 --> 00:32:45,809 But what Critical Race Theory is often define-- 868 00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:47,944 not often, it always is defined this, 869 00:32:48,044 --> 00:32:50,614 anytime I look into this and the writers of Critical Race Theory, 870 00:32:50,714 --> 00:32:52,616 what really strikes me as odd about it, 871 00:32:52,716 --> 00:32:54,484 and I don't understand why the left defends it, 872 00:32:54,584 --> 00:32:57,153 because it seeks to challenge the liberal order-- 873 00:32:57,187 --> 00:32:59,022 and it says this very clearly-- 874 00:32:59,155 --> 00:33:02,759 it seeks to challenge, um, enlightenment rationality, 875 00:33:02,859 --> 00:33:05,595 it seeks to challenge neutral justice, 876 00:33:05,695 --> 00:33:07,964 -neutral application of the law. -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 877 00:33:08,064 --> 00:33:10,934 It goes from this... it goes from this, um, 878 00:33:11,034 --> 00:33:15,272 Ta-Nehisi Coates ideology that in order to fix 879 00:33:15,372 --> 00:33:17,707 past discrimination there must be current discrimination. 880 00:33:17,807 --> 00:33:20,377 Ooh, I do not... no, I don't know that he said that. 881 00:33:20,477 --> 00:33:23,179 Ta-Nehisi Coates? I don't believe that he's ever said... 882 00:33:23,246 --> 00:33:25,181 -Ibram X. Kendi. Ibram X. Kendi. -Yeah, okay. 883 00:33:25,215 --> 00:33:27,083 -Sorry. Ibram X. Kendi. Ibram X. Kendi. -Because I... 884 00:33:27,183 --> 00:33:29,386 -I still don't even know... -He did. 885 00:33:29,486 --> 00:33:31,454 -That I'm 100% sure of. -But not talking about... 886 00:33:31,554 --> 00:33:33,490 But let's talk about... So this is the idea 887 00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:36,359 that I think, going back to the schools thing, rather, 888 00:33:36,459 --> 00:33:38,461 is... so you're saying you're not against them 889 00:33:38,561 --> 00:33:40,730 -teaching slavery in schools. -Of course not. 890 00:33:40,830 --> 00:33:42,532 -I learned about it ad nauseam when I was a kid. -Right. 891 00:33:42,632 --> 00:33:44,768 So, now, when talking about that, 892 00:33:44,868 --> 00:33:46,736 or when talking about what Jim Crow was, 893 00:33:46,836 --> 00:33:48,271 you're not against them explaining 894 00:33:48,371 --> 00:33:51,341 -that this was explicitly tied to race? -Of course not. 895 00:33:51,441 --> 00:33:53,710 Look, 'cause you've made this argument many times, right? 896 00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:55,812 Redlining in the past might have... 897 00:33:55,912 --> 00:33:59,149 -can affect how neighborhoods today are segregated. -Yes. 898 00:33:59,215 --> 00:34:01,584 -Yes, right. -Of course we can see the connection there. 899 00:34:01,685 --> 00:34:03,887 I don't think there's more to the story than that, 900 00:34:03,987 --> 00:34:06,423 -but we get to learn about that. -So do you think maybe, then, 901 00:34:06,523 --> 00:34:08,658 it's just a branding thing, then? 902 00:34:08,758 --> 00:34:12,162 Is this like an Obamacare, Affordable Care Act situation? 903 00:34:12,195 --> 00:34:14,164 -Is that what we're dealing with here? -No, I don't. 904 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:16,166 Because, I mean, if you really look 905 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:17,734 at the literature surrounding CRT, 906 00:34:17,834 --> 00:34:19,903 I think it's very toxic, and I think it does teach... 907 00:34:20,003 --> 00:34:21,838 I also think it's counterproductive. 908 00:34:21,938 --> 00:34:23,440 But there are schools that have had these fights, 909 00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:24,841 and they don't have CRT. 910 00:34:24,941 --> 00:34:26,343 Literally, there are school boards 911 00:34:26,443 --> 00:34:27,777 where people are fighting about CRT, 912 00:34:27,877 --> 00:34:29,245 and they have no CRT curriculum. 913 00:34:29,346 --> 00:34:31,114 And then now what they're doing is they're getting rid 914 00:34:31,181 --> 00:34:32,549 -Yeah. -of other books by, like, Toni Morrison. 915 00:34:32,649 --> 00:34:33,850 They're going like, "These..." 916 00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:35,285 And books that have been in the schools, ironically. 917 00:34:35,385 --> 00:34:36,753 Well, let's look at a recent example, 918 00:34:36,853 --> 00:34:38,254 'cause there's all this fanfare going on 919 00:34:38,355 --> 00:34:39,789 and controversy going on in Virginia. 920 00:34:39,889 --> 00:34:41,257 We've got a governor's race coming up, 921 00:34:41,358 --> 00:34:42,592 and this is at the crux of it, right? 922 00:34:42,692 --> 00:34:44,227 -What's being taught in schools. -Yes, yes. 923 00:34:44,327 --> 00:34:45,762 And so, has CRT been promulgated 924 00:34:45,862 --> 00:34:47,397 at the schools, and the answer is yes. 925 00:34:47,497 --> 00:34:50,900 I mean, there was directives from this current administration 926 00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:53,203 in Virginia that says: you will teach Critical Race Theory. 927 00:34:53,303 --> 00:34:55,672 So it's absolutely infiltrating schools. 928 00:34:55,772 --> 00:34:57,574 Oftentimes, I think you're right 929 00:34:57,674 --> 00:34:59,242 that there is not a class in high school 930 00:34:59,342 --> 00:35:01,278 -called Critical Race Theory, -Mm-hmm. 931 00:35:01,378 --> 00:35:03,246 but it does infuse, the teachings of it do infuse 932 00:35:03,346 --> 00:35:05,215 something like diversity and inclusion training, 933 00:35:05,315 --> 00:35:06,283 and who would be against 934 00:35:06,383 --> 00:35:07,751 diversity and inclusion training? 935 00:35:07,851 --> 00:35:09,052 But I would be against it 936 00:35:09,152 --> 00:35:11,221 if you're teaching white students that they're evil. 937 00:35:11,321 --> 00:35:13,156 When a child has to come home and say, 938 00:35:13,223 --> 00:35:15,025 "Mom, am I evil because I'm white?" 939 00:35:15,158 --> 00:35:17,360 Or a Black student has to say, "Am I disempowered? 940 00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:19,829 "Am I automatically disempowered and at a disadvantage 941 00:35:19,930 --> 00:35:22,198 because I'm Black?" That's bad. 942 00:35:22,299 --> 00:35:24,801 You're setting that Black student up for, um, 943 00:35:24,901 --> 00:35:27,737 for, basically, to be imprisoned by the sense of despair 944 00:35:27,837 --> 00:35:29,773 for the rest of their life and I don't see 945 00:35:29,873 --> 00:35:32,208 why you would start somebody's life off that way. 946 00:35:32,309 --> 00:35:35,111 This goes to a certain Republican ideology-- 947 00:35:35,211 --> 00:35:38,748 and we'll move on after this-- um, where I feel 948 00:35:38,848 --> 00:35:42,118 there's a difference, I feel, between... 949 00:35:42,218 --> 00:35:44,421 telling somebody where they are 950 00:35:44,521 --> 00:35:46,656 or what... what things... 951 00:35:46,756 --> 00:35:48,825 -what obstacles they may face, -Mm-hmm. 952 00:35:48,925 --> 00:35:50,160 and victim mentality. 953 00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:51,962 And I think there's a difference between the two, 954 00:35:52,128 --> 00:35:54,698 because I don't think it is wrong to tell a Black child: 955 00:35:54,798 --> 00:35:57,400 hey, we live in this neighborhood because of this. 956 00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:00,470 Your grandfather's house was taken away in Hermosa Beach, 957 00:36:00,570 --> 00:36:02,739 or wherever, Manhattan Beach, or wherever they lived. 958 00:36:02,839 --> 00:36:05,642 We had a business that we lost in this place. 959 00:36:05,742 --> 00:36:07,911 You know, Tulsa, Oklahoma, whatever these things are. 960 00:36:08,011 --> 00:36:09,946 I think it is valid to have those conversations 961 00:36:10,046 --> 00:36:11,848 the same way America has these conversations 962 00:36:11,948 --> 00:36:13,984 about the British and, like, this is how things came to be. 963 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:15,986 The same way Jewish people who have conversations, 964 00:36:16,152 --> 00:36:18,588 like: Hey, your grandparents got kicked out of Poland. 965 00:36:18,688 --> 00:36:21,291 That's why we're here today. And so I don't think 966 00:36:21,391 --> 00:36:24,461 that that necessarily is creating a victim mentality. 967 00:36:24,561 --> 00:36:26,296 I think it's... I think it's crucial to say... 968 00:36:26,396 --> 00:36:28,298 -It doesn't have to. -Right. But I think... 969 00:36:28,398 --> 00:36:30,333 I think the one can exist without the other. 970 00:36:30,433 --> 00:36:32,269 They can, you just have to be careful about it, 971 00:36:32,369 --> 00:36:34,704 and I think CRT forces... forces that pendulum 972 00:36:34,804 --> 00:36:36,806 to swing rather far to the victimization mentality. 973 00:36:36,906 --> 00:36:38,875 Okay. I see what you're saying. But you're saying 974 00:36:38,975 --> 00:36:40,176 you're not against the conversations. 975 00:36:40,277 --> 00:36:41,811 It's just how the framing of the conversation... 976 00:36:41,911 --> 00:36:43,780 I don't think the conversations are threatening. 977 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,283 Let's talk a little bit, before I let you go, about COP. 978 00:36:46,383 --> 00:36:48,551 -Yes. -You're heading out to COP26. 979 00:36:48,652 --> 00:36:50,253 A lot of people will be surprised to hear this. 980 00:36:50,353 --> 00:36:51,588 They're going like, "Dan Crenshaw, 981 00:36:51,688 --> 00:36:52,989 what are you doing at COP? 982 00:36:53,123 --> 00:36:54,557 This is a climate change meeting." 983 00:36:54,658 --> 00:36:56,393 Um, But you're one of the Republicans who said: 984 00:36:56,493 --> 00:36:58,361 No, we must have conversations about climate change 985 00:36:58,461 --> 00:36:59,796 and what we're gonna do about it. You know, 986 00:36:59,896 --> 00:37:01,831 I know, previously, in 2018, I think it was on Facebook, 987 00:37:01,932 --> 00:37:03,934 you had this video where you said the science 988 00:37:04,034 --> 00:37:06,536 hasn't been settled, the temperatures haven't risen, 989 00:37:06,636 --> 00:37:08,338 and, you know, Hurricane Harvey, 990 00:37:08,438 --> 00:37:10,173 the effects can't be tied to climate change. 991 00:37:10,273 --> 00:37:13,677 I believe your views have evolved in that time, 992 00:37:13,777 --> 00:37:16,046 and I'd love to know what your ideas are going forward 993 00:37:16,146 --> 00:37:18,148 about what you think America needs to do... 994 00:37:18,181 --> 00:37:20,317 I don't think I ever said any of those things in a video. 995 00:37:20,417 --> 00:37:22,152 -On Facebook? -No. 996 00:37:22,185 --> 00:37:25,422 I hope I'm wrong. No, I-I genuinely hope I'm wrong. 997 00:37:25,522 --> 00:37:27,857 -I would have never claimed... -Could be fake news. 998 00:37:27,958 --> 00:37:29,726 And I'm glad you're here, then. 999 00:37:29,826 --> 00:37:32,996 So, I've always... this has always been my position. 1000 00:37:33,096 --> 00:37:34,798 -Okay. -Um, is... 1001 00:37:34,898 --> 00:37:37,033 is, look, climate change is real. 1002 00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:38,935 There's a... there's a... 1003 00:37:39,035 --> 00:37:41,037 -obviously a human element to that, -Mm-hmm. 1004 00:37:41,137 --> 00:37:43,106 and we need to take it seriously. 1005 00:37:43,206 --> 00:37:46,209 Any... any science, any data that I will cite 1006 00:37:46,309 --> 00:37:49,479 -in this conversation will be from the UN IPCC. -Right. 1007 00:37:49,579 --> 00:37:51,781 -The gold standard. Yeah. -The UN climate report. 1008 00:37:51,881 --> 00:37:55,619 Um, what I point out, uh, in many of these cases, 1009 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,654 and maybe what I was referring to in that video, 1010 00:37:57,754 --> 00:37:59,289 is, something like Hurricane Harvey, 1011 00:37:59,389 --> 00:38:01,024 there is no serious scientist that would attribute 1012 00:38:01,124 --> 00:38:02,993 a single weather event to a trend, 1013 00:38:03,093 --> 00:38:05,095 -Right. -It would be-- That wouldn't be science. 1014 00:38:05,195 --> 00:38:06,963 That would just be conjecture. 1015 00:38:07,063 --> 00:38:09,099 Um, that's probably what I was referring to in this video 1016 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:10,967 that must have been from a very long time ago. 1017 00:38:11,067 --> 00:38:13,103 Um, but I would never suggest that-that temperatures 1018 00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:16,206 -haven't necessarily risen. Of course they have. -Got it. 1019 00:38:16,306 --> 00:38:18,308 Um, and they'll continue to rise, to an extent. 1020 00:38:18,408 --> 00:38:21,344 Um, so... it's a problem. 1021 00:38:21,444 --> 00:38:23,880 There's going to be a cost associated with the problem. 1022 00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:25,348 Uh, it's not quite what the alarmists say it is, 1023 00:38:25,448 --> 00:38:27,250 and we can-- we can quibble with that. 1024 00:38:27,350 --> 00:38:30,153 But the real conversation has to be about what solutions 1025 00:38:30,253 --> 00:38:31,488 -we're actually in favor of. Okay? -That's what everyone's 1026 00:38:31,588 --> 00:38:33,890 -fighting about. Yeah. -And it seems to me that, look, 1027 00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:35,458 if you're a Green New Dealer, 1028 00:38:35,558 --> 00:38:37,360 you believe that the only solutions are solar and wind. 1029 00:38:37,460 --> 00:38:39,663 -You have to electrify the grid completely. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 1030 00:38:39,763 --> 00:38:40,931 I think that's nonsense. 1031 00:38:41,031 --> 00:38:42,432 Um, I'm not against solar and wind, 1032 00:38:42,532 --> 00:38:43,600 but I don't think they should relieve-- 1033 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:45,368 they should receive 250 times more subsidies 1034 00:38:45,468 --> 00:38:47,871 than nuclear energy, which gives us reliable energy 1035 00:38:47,971 --> 00:38:49,472 and it's carbon-free. 1036 00:38:49,572 --> 00:38:51,007 So there's smarter ways to do this. 1037 00:38:51,174 --> 00:38:53,543 I don't think we should attack the oil and gas industry, 1038 00:38:53,643 --> 00:38:56,313 especially in America. Why is that? Why do I say that? 1039 00:38:56,413 --> 00:38:57,914 Well, because you got to look at what worked. Okay? 1040 00:38:58,014 --> 00:38:59,316 We've reduced emissions in this country 1041 00:38:59,416 --> 00:39:00,817 more than the next ten countries combined. 1042 00:39:00,917 --> 00:39:02,852 We're back to 1992 levels. Why is that? 1043 00:39:02,953 --> 00:39:04,454 Almost entirely because of gas. 1044 00:39:04,554 --> 00:39:05,989 Because of the fracking industry. 1045 00:39:06,089 --> 00:39:07,724 Um, because it displaced coal. 1046 00:39:07,824 --> 00:39:10,327 Okay? It-it has about 50% the emissions of coal. 1047 00:39:10,427 --> 00:39:13,196 Imagine doing the same thing via our exports and via trade deals 1048 00:39:13,296 --> 00:39:14,431 with China and India. 1049 00:39:14,531 --> 00:39:15,565 You know, China, last year, 1050 00:39:15,665 --> 00:39:17,801 built three times more coal capacity 1051 00:39:17,901 --> 00:39:19,769 than the rest of the world combined? 1052 00:39:19,869 --> 00:39:21,371 Yeah, China hasn't been playing by the rules. 1053 00:39:21,471 --> 00:39:23,006 -I mean, everyone knows this. -They don't play by any rules. 1054 00:39:23,106 --> 00:39:24,341 -Right. -They play by their own-- Well, they play 1055 00:39:24,441 --> 00:39:25,709 by the rules that the Paris Climate Accord gave them, 1056 00:39:25,809 --> 00:39:28,111 which is you can keep emitting until 2030. 1057 00:39:28,211 --> 00:39:29,779 So if you're the Chinese, what are you gonna do? 1058 00:39:29,879 --> 00:39:31,715 I'm just gonna keep building coal plants so that, in 2030, 1059 00:39:31,815 --> 00:39:33,883 well, yeah, I built a new-- 100 new coal plants, 1060 00:39:33,984 --> 00:39:35,285 but now I can build 99 1061 00:39:35,385 --> 00:39:36,386 -and I can say I reduced it. -But hasn't-hasn't America 1062 00:39:36,486 --> 00:39:37,854 always been about what does America do? 1063 00:39:37,954 --> 00:39:39,322 Like, the world follows America. 1064 00:39:39,422 --> 00:39:41,691 It feels like America has an opportunity here to go, 1065 00:39:41,791 --> 00:39:43,627 "Oh, China's slipping on this. 1066 00:39:43,727 --> 00:39:45,562 "We're gonna take the mantle. We will be the leaders 1067 00:39:45,662 --> 00:39:48,498 in creation of new energy." Now, please don't get me wrong. 1068 00:39:48,598 --> 00:39:50,267 I think it is foolish for anyone to think 1069 00:39:50,367 --> 00:39:51,801 -this can happen overnight. -Yeah. 1070 00:39:51,901 --> 00:39:53,003 I think you have to transition. 1071 00:39:53,169 --> 00:39:54,771 We've seen that you can't create enough energy 1072 00:39:54,871 --> 00:39:57,841 from the sources that we talked about-- wind, et cetera, solar. 1073 00:39:57,941 --> 00:40:00,076 They haven't found ways to replicate that energy 1074 00:40:00,176 --> 00:40:02,412 immediately overnight. I agree with you on this. 1075 00:40:02,512 --> 00:40:06,416 But surely there are ways that now the gas and coal industry, 1076 00:40:06,516 --> 00:40:08,351 especially the oil industries, really, 1077 00:40:08,451 --> 00:40:11,388 can-can really, I think, pull a little bit more of their weight. 1078 00:40:11,488 --> 00:40:13,390 I mean, they themselves-- I think it was the-the oil 1079 00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:14,891 and, um-- What are they called? 1080 00:40:14,991 --> 00:40:16,326 You probably know their name better. 1081 00:40:16,426 --> 00:40:17,794 The industry of, like-- You know, all the oil companies 1082 00:40:17,894 --> 00:40:19,496 have come together and they said, "Hey, 1083 00:40:19,596 --> 00:40:21,798 "we are for paying what-what essentially amounts 1084 00:40:21,898 --> 00:40:23,300 -to a carbon tax." You know? -Yeah. 1085 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,435 Some-some of the big oil companies are-- 1086 00:40:25,535 --> 00:40:26,903 You got to be careful how we interpret 1087 00:40:27,003 --> 00:40:28,571 what they're saying, because what that does 1088 00:40:28,672 --> 00:40:30,507 is displace a lot of the medium-sized oil companies 1089 00:40:30,607 --> 00:40:31,975 -who can't deal with that. -Interesting. So you're saying 1090 00:40:32,142 --> 00:40:33,843 -they're using that as a slick move... -Yeah, it's not as-- 1091 00:40:33,944 --> 00:40:35,045 And-and if you're gonna have a carbon tax, 1092 00:40:35,145 --> 00:40:36,246 it needs to be globalized. 1093 00:40:36,346 --> 00:40:37,747 Like, there should be a China carbon tax. 1094 00:40:37,847 --> 00:40:39,349 I mean, if-if we're gonna talk about carbon ta... 1095 00:40:39,449 --> 00:40:41,151 But you can't always wait for China though. Like, that's-- 1096 00:40:41,184 --> 00:40:42,552 That-- No, and, honestly, this is my only thing, 1097 00:40:42,652 --> 00:40:45,021 is, like-like, is America gonna wait for China 1098 00:40:45,155 --> 00:40:47,023 to follow the rules before it just does the right thing? 1099 00:40:47,157 --> 00:40:49,159 No, we don't have to wait. A-Again, what-what I mentioned 1100 00:40:49,225 --> 00:40:52,162 a-a minute ago was the Chinese have an interest 1101 00:40:52,228 --> 00:40:54,164 -in reliable energy that's cheaper. -Yes. 1102 00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:56,266 And that looks a lot like U.S. natural gas. 1103 00:40:56,366 --> 00:40:58,201 And so... (stammers) In our last administration, 1104 00:40:58,301 --> 00:41:00,003 we talked about this-- getting China to buy 1105 00:41:00,170 --> 00:41:02,205 $12 billion worth of natural gas. 1106 00:41:02,305 --> 00:41:03,840 If you-- Let me-- let me give you a stat. 1107 00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:08,178 If you displaced coal in China with natural gas right now, 1108 00:41:08,278 --> 00:41:10,413 um, you'd have about a 50% reduction, 1109 00:41:10,513 --> 00:41:14,184 which is about a 13% to 15% reduction globally in emissions. 1110 00:41:14,250 --> 00:41:16,086 Talk about massive change 1111 00:41:16,186 --> 00:41:19,255 without even harming anybody, economically speaking. 1112 00:41:19,356 --> 00:41:20,557 Because what everybody's worried about, 1113 00:41:20,657 --> 00:41:22,225 including say the president of Uganda, 1114 00:41:22,325 --> 00:41:23,960 who wrote that scathing letter and editorial 1115 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:25,629 in the Wall-Wall Street Journal, 1116 00:41:25,729 --> 00:41:28,231 they are not going to put off getting their people out 1117 00:41:28,331 --> 00:41:30,700 of poverty just for the sake of-of this obsession 1118 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,002 with solar and wind. 1119 00:41:32,135 --> 00:41:34,137 So we can lead. I'm not saying we shouldn't lead. 1120 00:41:34,237 --> 00:41:35,939 But we should lead with technological innovations, 1121 00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:37,340 including our oil and gas companies. 1122 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,609 They do a lot of this, by the way. Carbon capture is-- 1123 00:41:39,709 --> 00:41:42,212 Uh, the carbon capture technology is growing radically. 1124 00:41:42,312 --> 00:41:44,748 Exxon's talking about a carbon hub in the Houston area. 1125 00:41:44,848 --> 00:41:48,151 There's ways to-to not destroy our economy 1126 00:41:48,184 --> 00:41:49,686 while also reducing emissions. 1127 00:41:49,786 --> 00:41:51,521 And that's why I'm going to COP26, 1128 00:41:51,621 --> 00:41:53,223 to promulgate that view. 1129 00:41:53,323 --> 00:41:54,824 Before I let you go then, 1130 00:41:54,924 --> 00:41:58,161 you-you have these conversations with your fellow Republicans. 1131 00:41:58,261 --> 00:41:59,896 What it feels like to me right now, 1132 00:41:59,996 --> 00:42:01,231 as somebody who just observes, 1133 00:42:01,331 --> 00:42:05,535 is it feels like the Republican Party is in a... 1134 00:42:05,635 --> 00:42:08,905 a really interesting watershed moment where... 1135 00:42:09,005 --> 00:42:12,442 I think it's, what, 46% or 43% of Republicans identify 1136 00:42:12,542 --> 00:42:15,178 -as Trumpers before Republicans. -Hmm. 1137 00:42:15,278 --> 00:42:18,648 You know, it-it now feels like the party's at a point where, 1138 00:42:18,748 --> 00:42:20,183 you know, to use sporting analogies-- 1139 00:42:20,216 --> 00:42:21,851 we'd always complain about this back in the day-- 1140 00:42:21,952 --> 00:42:23,320 we'd go like, "Players have forgotten that the badge 1141 00:42:23,420 --> 00:42:24,988 is more important than the player." 1142 00:42:25,088 --> 00:42:27,691 -You know? And you're trying to do certain things. -Yeah. 1143 00:42:27,791 --> 00:42:29,359 You have come under fire, for instance, 1144 00:42:29,459 --> 00:42:31,795 just for saying to people, "Hey, Trump didn't lose 1145 00:42:31,895 --> 00:42:34,130 because of some weird election fraud or whatever." 1146 00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:36,433 You've come under fire for this. 1147 00:42:36,533 --> 00:42:39,336 What do you think the future of the Republican Party will be? 1148 00:42:39,436 --> 00:42:41,137 Do you think the Republican Party can avoid 1149 00:42:41,204 --> 00:42:42,706 being co-opted by Trump? 1150 00:42:42,806 --> 00:42:45,508 And if the answer is yes or no, 1151 00:42:45,609 --> 00:42:48,378 what-what do you think the-the next moves need to be 1152 00:42:48,478 --> 00:42:50,614 for Republicans to keep moving forward 1153 00:42:50,714 --> 00:42:52,816 without being locked down in one person's ideology? 1154 00:42:52,916 --> 00:42:54,985 Yeah, and-and I tell Republicans all the time 1155 00:42:55,151 --> 00:42:56,886 we can't be locked into one person. 1156 00:42:56,987 --> 00:42:59,155 You know? We-we are a party that follows a set of ideals. 1157 00:42:59,255 --> 00:43:00,423 What is conservatism? 1158 00:43:00,523 --> 00:43:02,025 It's a problem-solving mechanism. 1159 00:43:02,158 --> 00:43:03,827 That's what we're selling to the American people. 1160 00:43:03,927 --> 00:43:05,528 We should talk about this more often, by the way. 1161 00:43:05,629 --> 00:43:07,864 Conservatism is a mechanism by which we solve problems 1162 00:43:07,964 --> 00:43:10,767 through a framework of limiting principles, fundamentally. 1163 00:43:10,867 --> 00:43:12,369 We should not get away from that. 1164 00:43:12,469 --> 00:43:14,237 Limiting principles is a key part of that. 1165 00:43:14,337 --> 00:43:17,707 An a-- an adherence to Western liberal values 1166 00:43:17,807 --> 00:43:19,876 is a-- is a key part of that. 1167 00:43:19,976 --> 00:43:21,678 Um, I will say this. 1168 00:43:21,778 --> 00:43:23,179 I-I do a ton of events. 1169 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,383 Uh, I've-I've been doing a ton of events for the past year-- 1170 00:43:26,483 --> 00:43:28,918 and, uh, these are Republican events, of course-- 1171 00:43:29,019 --> 00:43:30,787 and the people who come to a Republican event 1172 00:43:30,887 --> 00:43:34,491 tend to be the more primary voter, activist crowd, right? 1173 00:43:34,591 --> 00:43:36,293 And I don't get questions about this. 1174 00:43:36,393 --> 00:43:39,362 I always get questions about this from the media. 1175 00:43:39,462 --> 00:43:41,131 Always. I never-- 1176 00:43:41,197 --> 00:43:43,233 and I-- and I mean that in an absolute sense-- 1177 00:43:43,333 --> 00:43:46,136 I mean never. Never do I get this question about Trump 1178 00:43:46,236 --> 00:43:47,737 from voters on the ground. 1179 00:43:47,837 --> 00:43:50,507 So I think polling has to be taken with a grain of salt. 1180 00:43:50,607 --> 00:43:53,209 I think people are very-- especially Republicans-- 1181 00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:56,680 are very, very, uh, suspicious of pollsters 1182 00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:58,148 and they don't ever want to give in to you. 1183 00:43:58,181 --> 00:44:00,784 So-so they'll-- They want to defend Trump because-- 1184 00:44:00,884 --> 00:44:02,852 But it doesn't mean they're obsessed with him, 1185 00:44:02,953 --> 00:44:04,521 but they do-- but they feel the need to defend him. 1186 00:44:04,621 --> 00:44:05,922 And so they'll tell that pollster, 1187 00:44:06,022 --> 00:44:07,390 -"Yeah, I'm a Trump supporter." -Oh, could explain why 1188 00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:08,925 the polls are often wrong. 1189 00:44:09,025 --> 00:44:10,293 They are often wrong, yeah. 1190 00:44:10,393 --> 00:44:11,995 Yeah, especially in and around Trump and Republicans. 1191 00:44:12,162 --> 00:44:15,265 Right, 'cause we-we have a very suspicious view of pollsters, 1192 00:44:15,365 --> 00:44:16,700 for whatever reason, and, um... 1193 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,902 and so you have to take it with a grain of salt. 1194 00:44:19,002 --> 00:44:20,303 Well, I could talk to you forever, 1195 00:44:20,403 --> 00:44:21,905 but I know you have to go. You're catching a train back 1196 00:44:22,005 --> 00:44:23,907 -to D.C. Thank you for taking the time. -This was fun. 1197 00:44:24,007 --> 00:44:25,842 Thank you for chatting with me, and, uh, I hope to have you 1198 00:44:25,942 --> 00:44:28,578 -back on again. Good luck at, uh, COP26. -Love to. Thank you. 1199 00:44:28,678 --> 00:44:30,714 Don't forget, people. The congressman's books 1200 00:44:30,814 --> 00:44:32,549 are available at DanCrenshaw.com. 1201 00:44:32,649 --> 00:44:35,418 And you can check out his podcast Hold These Truths. 1202 00:44:35,518 --> 00:44:36,586 All right, we're gonna take a quick break, 1203 00:44:36,686 --> 00:44:38,655 but we'll be right back after this. 1204 00:44:42,324 --> 00:44:43,325 Well, that's our show for tonight. 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