I went as a... Did you dress for anything?
-MAN: No. -I dressed up as The Weeknd.
Yeah, and apparently, I looked so much like him,
some people thought I was The Weeknd in the streets.
Which made no sense to me.
'Cause why would The Weeknd go as The Weeknd for Halloween?
Literally, someone in the studio was like,
"The Weeknd! You're The Weeknd! You're The Weeknd!"
Then I was like, "No, I'm a guy dressed as The Weeknd."
She's like, "I know The Weeknd when I see him!"
Then I was like, "Why would The Weeknd dress
"as The Weeknd for Halloween?
"What sense does any of...? This is Halloween!
"This is the day when nobody is the person
who you think they are."
"It's The Weekend! Come, just take our picture!"
She's like, "Don't be an asshole, Abel!"
I was like, "I'm not... I'm not him. I'm not him."
Then she's like, "Just take our picture."
Then I was like, "Screw you.
"Yeah, The Weeknd says, screw you. Idiot.
That's right. And don't forget to buy my album."
ANNOUNCER: Coming to you from the heart of Times Square
in New York City, the only city in America, it's
The Daily Show.
Tonight, Biden's European vacation,
horror films are racist,
and Representative Dan Crenshaw.
This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
Hey, what's going on, everybody?
Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah.
And joining me for today's headlines
is my good friend Michael Kosta.
What's going on, Michael Kosta? How you doing, man?
-Did you have a great Halloween? -I had a great Halloween.
-Yeah? -You know, and I'm more proud of the fact
that I haven't seen a white person
post a culturally-insensitive costume.
-And it makes me think. Maybe we learned. -Yeah.
Maybe we learned not to post, but maybe, maybe
Ted Lasso was scooping up a lot of the white people costumes.
-I saw a lot of them. -I saw a lot of them, too.
And it makes me think maybe we need more TV shows
with a white, male, charismatic lead.
You know what, my man? I hear what you're saying.
That's what I'm saying.
We need more white men represented on television
so that people have more white men to look up to.
Look, you said it.
The other thing I love about Halloween--
it just feels like there's no rules.
You know, you can walk around your neighborhood drunk,
drinking, you see a cop, they never say anything.
You don't even know if that is a cop.
Maybe that's someone dressed as a cop.
Even if you say something to you,
you can say, "My costume is that I'm publicly intoxicated."
And you're free, you're good.
-Good to see you, man. -Oh, man. Yeah, I just got to...
I just got to commit more crimes on Halloween.
-You just made me realize this. -There's no rules, dude.
-All right, yeah. -Yeah, all right.
Next Halloween-- me and you--
-we're doing this together. -Yes. Yeah.
All right, well, let's get into the big story
that's happening today.
It's all about Joe Biden,
President of the United States
and professional malarkey hunter.
There are lots of cool perks to being president, right?
You get a giant house with a bowling alley
and a personal chef.
You get that free painting of yourself,
and best of all, you get to travel the world for free.
And right now, Joe Biden is on one of the biggest trips
of his presidency so far.
So, let's find out how it's all going
in another installment of Grandpa's Day Out.
♪ ♪
President Biden's first stop on his European tour
was the Vatican City, the place trip advisor rated
"Best city to Feel Guilty for Masturbating In."
And while Biden was there, he had a very special meeting
with a fellow Catholic.
NEWSMAN: For President Biden, a day of devotion and diplomacy.
America's second ever Roman Catholic president having
a private audience with Pope Francis
with whom he's built a personal bond,
giving him a ceremonial commander coin and a compliment.
-(laughter) -(translating)
So, obviously a very personal moment
with a lighthearted one, as is typical with Joe Biden,
who ended that meeting today by saying to the pope,
"God love ya."
You know, you've got to give it to Joe Biden,
because it took everything in his power as an old man
to not make that coin appear behind the pope's ear.
What's this, Popey? Aah!
Here's a coin, kid. I'll see you next time. Yeah!
Also, the fact that he said, "God love ya" to the pope,
that is the most unnecessary "God love ya" in history.
You don't need to say "God love ya" to the pope.
He knows God loves him.
He had dinner with him last night.
But I do think that meeting was cool to see,
because it's nice that, even though these two men
are some of the most powerful leaders in the world,
when it comes down to it,
they're just a couple of old guys hanging out,
showing off their coin collection,
talking about alcohol, making inappropriate ethnic jokes.
I mean, forget the Vatican,
these two should have been meeting in a sauna.
You know? And it's adorable how the pope
acts so happy to receive that coin.
You see him, you know, his house is filled
with Indiana Jones' wish list.
He doesn't need to be happy about a coin. You know?
Oh, wow, the coin from the White House,
I'll keep it right next to the actual Holy Grail.
Uh, throw this shit out, Vincenzo.
(speaking fake Italian)
(continues in fake Italian) ...White House.
(bleep) (continues fake Italian)
Well, you see, I'm... it seems like I speak bad Italian.
But actually, the pope is actually from Argentina.
He speaks Spanish.
So I'm actually doing a very good pope impression.
I'm saying his Italian's not great.
That's what that is.
I'm gonna be honest, Kosta, I think this is a good look
for Biden, because, I mean, he's catholic,
and the pope likes him. This is a good thing, right?
I think it's a bad thing. I think it's a bad sign.
If you're trying to negotiate an infrastructure bill
in the United States, and in the middle of negotiations
you got to run and talk to the pope.
Hey, Pope, uh, confession: we're screwed.
Isn't it great that they just get called the pope?
That's your new name when you become the pope-- the pope.
His name is Francis. Everyone calls him the pope.
It's like when you work at Denny's.
Very first day you show up and the only name tag they have
is "Josh," you're now Josh.
I thought that guy was Josh.
Yeah, exactly. Everyone thinks it's Josh.
Also, you know there's another former pope out there.
Pope Benedict? He's just around. He's hanging.
-He's like the Jay Leno now of popes. -(laughing)
He's just fixing cars in Germany.
He was a... H-He was a pope.
And then he's not a pope?
I'm just saying, no one ever talks about Benedict.
-Former... former pope? -Former pope.
-Pope. Pope. Pope. Previous pope? -Previous pope.
(laughs) All right, now, after President Biden
exchanged Irish jokes with the pope,
he caught an Uber to Rome for the G20 summit,
where he and other world leaders got down to business.
And they got... they got some things done.
You know, like, um, they-they agreed
to create a global minimum corporate tax rate of 15%,
which is expected to raise hundreds of billions of dollars
until the corporations find a different loophole
about five minutes afterwards.
But when it came to another priority for the G20,
tackling climate change... (inhales sharply)
Things weren't as successful.
NEWSMAN: Even the first major in-person meeting in two years
couldn't bring world leaders closer together
on the issue of climate change.
In the final communiqué, G20 leaders agreed
to softer language on reaching net zero emissions,
setting a target of "by or around mid-century."
Canada's pledge is to be carbon-neutral by 2050.
Coal was also contentious.
G20 leaders did agree to end public financing
of coal-fired power generation abroad,
but there are no targets to phase out coal domestically.
Damn, G20. Now, that is a flex.
Did you hear what they said there?
Basically, these leaders were like,
"No more coal for anyone.
"Except us. Now, if you'll excuse me,
I've got to go home and give a Pfizer booster to my pet."
A-And I'm sorry, guys, but how is climate change
the most pressing issue facing humanity,
but then your plan is to do something about it
by, more or less, 2050?
Like, that's a pretty good sign
that something isn't actually gonna get done.
If somebody says to you,
"Yeah, yeah, we should hang out sometime.
What's your schedule looking like in 2050?"
You're never seeing that person again.
I don't care if they're your dad.
You're never seeing them.
Not to mention,
I'm looking at the people making this pledge.
Half of them aren't even gonna be around in 2050.
That's genius. When are we fixing this?
"Uh, how much time do I have left?
Yeah, yeah, around then."
I mean, the bigger problem is that these steps
that the countries have announced
that they're gonna take,
they won't actually reduce carbon emissions enough
to reach the goals.
So, basically, what they've done is said,
"I want to lose 100 pounds by the summer,
"so I'm gonna do five push-ups a day.
"And then I don't know. Maybe I'll get tapeworm?
We'll-we'll see what happens."
You know? It's frustrating, Kosta.
The thing... You can't say you want to do something about it
and then be like, "Well, in 30 years.
We'll do something in 30 years."
I can solve climate change in ten minutes.
-You ready? Okay? -Okay.
Here's how... Well, they could solve it in ten minutes.
Stop having the conference in a fancy room in Glasgow
and put the G20 summit inside of a California wildfire.
Okay? They'll... They got two minutes.
-Let's wrap this thing up. -Location.
They don't feel the consequences
when they're in an air-conditioned room
-in Glasgow. -But, Kos... I like this.
-That's what I'm saying. -Locat-Location is everything.
-Location, location, location. -Yes.
I'm the first person to ever say that.
-Yeah. (chuckles) -Anyway...
Joe Biden wrapped up Grandpa's Day Out
by attending the COP26 Climate Conference in Scotland,
A.K.A. England's fancy church hat.
And although "COP26" sounds like a Bruce Willis movie
that never actually got made,
it's actually the most important annual climate change conference
in the world.
Although that doesn't mean
that it's the most exciting conference in the world.
(applause)
ANNOUNCER: Please welcome the prime minister of Italy,
Mario Draghi.
(chuckles) I don't know what's worse,
the fact that he clapped for a speech that he didn't hear
or the fact that he fell asleep when the guy was like,
"This is the most important thing..." (snores)
"...facing humanity..." (snores)
"...of all time."
And-and, look, look, look,
I know that the haters are gonna say
that Biden was falling asleep during the climate conference.
But think about it--
how are we gonna save the climate?
Not using energy. That's how.
What's the one time you're not using as much energy?
When you're sleeping.
So Joe Biden was just doing his part, yo.
That's what he was doing.
And, by the way, I don't know exactly
how the chain of command works,
but when he dozed off for five seconds,
I think, technically, that means Kamala Harris
was president at that time, right?
First woman president, America! You did it, baby! You did it!
You see what I did there, Kosta? It's a joke about-- Kosta!
-Michael! -Shoot them, Lindsey Graham!
Use the guns! Use the guns!
That's not what I was talking about.
I know.
This guy.
You know, if you ask me,
the real hero of this whole thing was the aide
who came in and woke Biden up.
'Cause that was... that was slick, man.
That dude should get a coin. If it wasn't for him,
Biden might still be sleeping there now.
Yeah. He'll just wake up next week in the middle of, like,
a furry convention.
"Ah. I don't know if I could rub one out
to a squirrel, but God love you guys."
So kudos to that aide who woke Biden up.
I mean, people-people may not actually know this,
but he's actually part of a new branch of the federal government
and they're on the lookout for recruits.
♪ ♪
ANNOUNCER: When the world's most powerful man
needs a power nap at the worst possible time
and the line between consciousness and chaos
is as thin as an eyelid,
that's when we spring into action.
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the United States Sleeper Service.
Join our team and you'll learn how to take charge
when the president takes a nap.
-(alarm) -MAN: Eagle is dozing. Repeat, Eagle is dozing.
We are entering rapid eye movement.
Goddamn it, get those eyes open.
-He's about to snore. -(snoring)
-(snoring stops) -(cheering)
ANNOUNCER: So if you're ready to throw yourself
into the line of tired,
join the United States Sleeper Service.
Suck it, Space Force.
All right, when we come back,
Roy Wood Jr. will tell us what makes Black people so scary.
You don't want to miss it.
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
Now, as you know, Halloween was last weekend,
and to help commemorate it in our own way,
we turn to Roy Wood Jr.
for another episode of CP Time.
♪ ♪
Trash. Trash.
There's no Almond Joys.
Ah, well, hello there.
Welcome to CP Time,
the only show that's for the culture.
Today, we'll be discussing Black horror movies.
When you think of Black horror, you think of hits like
Get Out or this year's remake of Candyman.
Which reminds me, speaking of... speaking of that...
-(eerie music plays) -Candyman. Candyman. Candyman.
Candyman. Candyman!
-(music stops) -I knew he wouldn't show up.
Cheap bastard owed me $50.
But we wouldn't have Jordan Peele
if it weren't for the pioneering Black horror films
that today are mostly forgotten.
Movies like Son of Ingagi,
which, in 1940, became the first horror film
to feature an all-Black cast.
And unlike A Madea Halloween,
they were all played by different people.
Son of Ingagi bucked stereotypes
by showing a Black middle class family
battling a monster in their home,
paving the way for the Winslow family
to do the same thing against Steve Urkel.
Ooh! Those suspenders.
And on top of that, the scientist in this movie
is an old Black woman.
It was like a scary Hidden Figures.
Although I have to be honest.
I found Hidden Figures to be pretty scary, too.
All that damn math. Ooh.
Another major film in Black horror was 1968's
Night of the Living Dead, starring Duane Jones,
the first Black actor to play the lead role
in a mainstream horror hit.
He's a hero for most of the movie,
and then his character ends up getting shot
by white folks who mistake him for a zombie.
It was a profound lesson on racism.
It is the living who are racist,
and we should all strive to be more like the zombies,
who eat the brains of any race.
Wait. Is that the lesson?
Once the 1970s hit
and Black exploitation films got big,
horror movies got a little bit wild.
We got movies like Blacula,
Blackenstein, Dr. Black, Mr. Hyde,
and of course, Abby.
It was originally titled The Black-xorcist,
but they got in trouble for copying that movie
where the little white girl
tinkles on the living room carpet.
Then there was Petey Wheatstraw.
In 1977, Dolemite star Rudy Ray Moore plays
a comedian who is killed by his rivals
for being too successful.
Today they would have just found his old tweets.
That's how you get rid...
Anyway, the comedian makes a deal with the devil
to come back to life and get revenge on his killers
by using the devil's magic pimp cane.
Now, the first question is,
why would the devil have a pimp cane?
I do not know.
I'm gonna be honest with you,
I don't even know why pimps have pimp canes.
Does pimping cause sprained ankles?
Is that why pimping ain't easy?
I don't know.
This movie raised many questions for me.
And finally, one Black horror character
that doesn't get the credit she deserves
was Rachel True's performance
as Rochelle in the 1996 movie The Craft.
Now, although The Craft
is not technically a Black horror movie,
the sound track does include a song by Jewel,
and there's few things more terrifying
to Black people than that.
Ooh, Jewel!
But Rochelle, Rochelle was a ground-breaking character
for Black women in horror.
She takes revenge on a racist bully at school
after becoming a powerful witch.
Which is literally Black girl magic.
Now, this character was especially important
because it was the 1990s.
Teen horror was in the midst of a renaissance,
but Black girls didn't really get to see themselves
in anything scary.
All they had was Scary Spice.
She wasn't even that scary. Posh was the scary one.
Always looked like she just got back from poisoning James Bond.
Well, that's all the time we have for today.
I'm Roy Wood Jr.,
and this has been CP Time.
And remember, we're for the culture.
I'm going to try this again.
Candyman!
Oh, there you are.
Where's my money, Daniel?
♪ ♪
Thank you so much for that, Roy.
All right, when we come back,
Republican congressman Dan Crenshaw
will be joining me right here in the studio.
You don't want to miss it.
Welcome back to The Daily Show.
My guest tonight is Dan Crenshaw,
Republican congressman from Texas
and author of Fortitude.
He's here to talk about immigration and border policy,
climate change and cancel culture.
Representative Crenshaw, welcome to the show.
Trevor, thanks for... thanks for having me.
Oh, thank you for being here. You... I think you-you might be
the first Republican lawmaker we've had on in maybe...
Or let me say the first Republican lawmaker we've had on
who isn't leaving Congress in maybe, like, over a year.
-So thank you so much for being here. -All right. Wow.
-That's exciting. -Um...
I-I was reading up on you, and there are a few things
I-I never knew about you as a person.
Um, one, 37. We're both 37 years old.
-It's a good age. -Uh, it's a good age. Yeah.
Um, we've both lived in multiple countries around the world.
-Mm-hmm. -And-and when I read, like, your life story,
living in I think it was Ecuador and Colombia,
I-I couldn't help wondering.
I was like, I wonder what ideas you have of America
that you think have been shaped
by living in other places. 'Cause I know I have that.
-Yeah. -You know, whereas there are some people
who've only lived in America,
and they see America in a certain way.
What is, like, something that you think
has shaped your views on America
because you've lived in other countries?
Well, living in other countries, it-it's fun.
I-I love my upbringing. I plan to go back
to my 20-year high school reunion
in Colombia next year.
And, uh, it-it shaped me in a lot of positive ways, I think.
Um, how does it view... make my view of America different?
Um, it certainly makes you appreciate America in many ways.
Helps you understand how other people
-think about the United States. -Oh, that's interesting.
You know? 'Cause I-I was... I was the only American
-in my entire grade throughout high school. -Right.
'Cause I-I spent all four years of high school in Bogotá.
I was the only American that was there all four years.
(chuckles): So, uh, I got a lot of questions as a result,
and I had to... I had to defend my country,
uh, as a result, in ways that I, frankly, wasn't prepared for.
-Right. -So, that-that shaped my view.
What I like about America
and I think what we should embrace as Americans
is this idea that people can become America.
-Uh-huh. -American.
Uh, you can can't become French.
-Right. Right. -Right? Y-You can't...
I'm-I'm not even sure you can really become German.
-Right. -Uh, but you can become an American,
because the whole point of being an American
is that we sort of share this-this set of ideals,
this set of history, um,
this-this creed, if you will, of Americanism,
of Western values that makes us an American,
and I think that's a very cool thing.
Yeah, it's an interesting idea, because America in itself
is an experiment. You know? It's not something
that's ever been repeated anywhere else in the world.
I've always been fascinated by it as a... as a concept.
Um, when I was reading through your story, though,
I... it made me wonder. I was like,
"Man, this man probably has
"interesting and nuanced views on immigration
"that are shaped by ideas
that aren't just formed in America."
You know? As somebody who's fluent in Spanish,
as somebody who's lived in Colombia...
As you said, you're gonna go back to your 20-year reunion.
You have friends, you-you have people
you would consider even almost family
-on that side of the world. -Mm-hmm.
Let's-let's talk a little bit about immigration,
because it feels like America is stuck
in its immigration conversation.
You know? There is a misconception
about what the problems are, what causes the problems,
how America can move forward.
As somebody who's lived in other countries,
some of them which influence America's immigration story,
what do you think the problem is?
And then maybe afterwards, we'll talk
about potential solutions going forward.
Well, look, I-I view the problem as illegal immigration.
I'm not sure we have a problem with legal immigration.
It depends on who you ask, of course.
I personally don't have a problem with legal immigration.
Uh, my stepmom is a legal immigrant.
Uh, immigrated from Peru.
So, you know, I-I think most Americans
are not anti-immigrant,
-Right. -I-I don't think we should paint them that way.
But I think the vast majority of Americans
want our border secured, you know, and that's the crux
of the debate that's going on right now.
We have to differentiate between this conversation
-about ill-illegal immigration and legal immigration. -Mm-hmm.
-So, wait. Okay, so, uh... -So, what's the problem
-with illegal immigration? -No, no, no, no. No, no.
L-Let's talk about the-the conversation
-in and around that. -Yeah.
This is what it feels like to me.
Every few years in America,
the conversation around the border changes.
-Mm-hmm. -You know? So, uh, when-when Trump was in office,
people were like, "Oh, yeah, he's shutting down the border.
"He's locking down the border. He's closing down the border,
and he's building a border wall."
Then when Biden's in power, people are like,
"The borders are wide-open. The bor..."
It seems like the rhetoric switches wildly.
-Yeah. -Now, America has its spikes up and down.
People coming in, people don't. People come and people don't.
But, like, you've-you've said this,
and-and that's something that I... that I appreciate.
You've said we shouldn't be using extreme rhetoric
-to talk about these problems. -Yeah.
Like, do you think the border's wide-open?
Uh, it-it would seem that way effectively.
So, y-you've had 1.5 million encounters
on the border this year. That's an absolute record.
Uh, out of that, hundreds of thousands
have been released into the Interior.
So, this catch and release idea that we keep hearing about,
it is effectively true.
Um, and there's a bunch of reasons for that.
Uh, there's an incentive structure
that incentivizes people to bring minors across
because our courts can't deal with that.
I-I could go into a long history of why that is
if you'd like me to, but it gets wonky.
Uh, but the point is is that's the...
that's the nature of the problem right now.
-Mm-hmm. -It's existed since about 2014.
That's why you see these waves.
And, so, there's certain policies
that can prevent that incentive structure.
You can keep people in Mexico while they...
-while they claim their asylum claim. -Mm-hmm.
You can have people claim asylum within their home countries.
-Right. -That was part of the Asylum Cooperative Agreements
we established with the Northern Triangle countries.
So, what Biden did is reverse all of these policies,
and that's why you're seeing this incentive structure
change so radically, 'cause people have this idea
that they can come across the border
and they will get a bus ticket to wherever they want,
and maybe they show up for the court date, maybe they don't.
Do you think people keep abreast
with America's laws in that way? Or do you think...
Like, so, for instance, with the Haitian immigrants,
you had immigrants saying they...
"We heard that Biden would let us in."
And, I mean, that's not what Biden said.
Do you get what I'm saying? So, so, is there some sort
of misinformation that's also going out there,
or do you think people are just hearing
this-this overwhelming rhetoric that the borders are wi...
Like, sometimes I wonder
if people saying the borders are wide-open
is what people might be hearing, and then they go like,
"Oh, then we should go to America
'cause they said the borders are wide-open."
Well, I-I don't think these immigrants
are watching Fox News,
-and they don't follow me on Instagram. -(laughs)
-So, I-I... -You never know.
-(laughs) -News travels. You never know.
News travels, but-but that is the point, actually.
And it... And it travels mostly on social media
and through their networks,
and it's also promulgated by the drug cartels.
So, the biggest winner in all of this
is the north, uh, the north Mexico drug cartels.
-Right, right, right. -They get maybe $300 to $500 per person
to get somebody across the border.
-Mm-hmm. -Nobody gets through that border without them.
They have the best border security in the world.
Um, so they make millions.
And, by the way, that's risk-free money, too.
They don't have to be trafficking drugs anymore.
-Mm-hmm. -You can get caught trafficking drugs.
Here, they're staying on the Mexican side and they're...
-making people go over. -Sending the people across. Right.
So, there's a lot of human trafficking
that occurs there, too, so none of this is... is good
in any way. And... and I fail to see how it's compassionate
to promulgate those open border policies
when you can disincentivize it
and reduce that kind of human trafficking
and reduce the money... the-the money flowing
-to these drug cartels. -Right, right, right.
It's interesting, because, you know,
it's not a uniquely American problem,
and maybe that's something that I've always struggled with
in seeing these conversations.
Any country that shares a border with a nation
that is going through turmoil in some way, shape or form...
-Mm-hmm. -...is going to experience some sort of influx.
That is natural, especially when one country is doing much better
when it comes to its finances.
So, when you look at the coming in,
when you look at DACA, when you look at these programs,
one-- what do you do about the people who are already here,
who've been here, who've spent their whole lives here,
-who've grown up here as children? -Mm-hmm.
Do you think America, at some point has to say,
"Look the people are here, it'll cost us a fortune
"to get them out, and for all intents and purposes,"
as you've said, "they've become American"?
Yeah. So Republicans have been... have been pretty willing
-to have a conversation about DACA. -Mm-hmm.
All we asked is that you secure the border.
Now, DACA, as defined by the Obama administration--
see, that's very different
than how they've started to define it now.
It's important that people distinguish
these two definitions because what Democrats have done
in the last two years,
multiple times has passed the DREAMER Act,
which would completely change the definition
of DACA recipients to basically mean
your age doesn't matter, when you came doesn't matter,
which effectively means everyone, okay, so, so...
-Yeah. -I understand. So you're arguing the way Obama
-and his administration... -I'm very sympathetic to somebody
-who doesn't even speak Spanish who was brought here... -Right.
...as a child and giving them some kind of legal security.
Very... I'm very sympathetic to that.
But when it comes to broader immigration reforms,
okay, what do you do?
What do you do with the millions of people here?
It's a very good question.
The first you do is you have to stop the inflow.
You have to stop the illegal crossings. I hope we...
I want to get to this point in America where we all agree
that we should have zero tolerance
for illegal immigration primarily because
it cuts in front of the line of legal immigrants
-who want to do this the right way. -Mm-hmm.
This is very... I'm from Houston.
It's the most diverse city in America.
I don't think a lot of people know that about Houston.
Um, we talk to legal immigrants all the time.
They're very frustrated by this.
Again, my stepmother is a legal immigrant. They feel...
'Cause they feel like people are cutting the line.
They feel like people are cutting the line.
They feel like an injustice is incurring against them,
and I think they're right.
Um, just because there's a long line doesn't mean
you get to cut it. And by the way,
there will always be a long line.
For this country, there will always be the massive line.
If you doubled the number of legal immigrants
we have next year, tripled it, quadrupled it,
they'd still be a massive line.
-But-but America's not-not doing that. -No, we're not.
That's one of the things I've been intrigued by is, um,
you know, when you talk to some of the architects
of America's original immigration policy,
they have said that America hasn't done a good job
-of adjusting those numbers of who comes in and how. -Yeah.
And, I mean, we see this in businesses,
we see this with farming, we see...
You see them saying, farmers saying...
-And it's an honest debate to be had there. Yup. -Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, people say like, "We don't have the workers. We need..."
-Yup. -Any country needs a steady flow of immigration.
It feels like, on that side,
America hasn't done a particularly good job
of updating how many people it actually needs to come in.
Fair. And I think we can debate
-which way those numbers should go. -Right, right, right.
Maybe it should depend on employment numbers
here in this country,
-maybe it should depend on a number of factors. -Mm-hmm.
We want to have those conversations.
And-and 'cause right then, we're talking
about changing things on the margin
-for illegal immigration. -Right, right.
I think those are worthy debates to have.
Let's talk a little bit about
some of the books you've written.
Um, you know, you-you speak your mind.
You are, I think, a Republican who presents themselves
as somebody who's willing to have discourse with people.
I mean, you're here with me, you know?
You've always said, people need to avoid extreme rhetoric.
And in some of your books, you know, I'll paraphrase,
and forgive me if I don't phrase it correctly,
but one of the lines that stuck out to me is you said,
um, "You know, we have to be careful not to offend people.
"We shouldn't try to go out of our way
-to offend people as human beings." -Mm-hmm.
"But at the same time, we can also develop a lot of strength
-by not being offended by everything." -Mm-hmm. Right.
In and around the culture of what people want
-to call cancel culture... -Mm-hmm.
You know, people go, Woke this and woke that,
and cancel culture.
It seems like you're commenting on this,
but I would love to know what your opinion
of cancel culture is.
-Yeah. -First of all, do you think it's a real thing?
And second of all, what do you think it actually means?
It means a couple of different things.
So, cancel culture, in modern times, um,
it can mean... it can mean refusing to forgive someone
-for what was clearly a mistake. -Okay.
Okay. And I think, in my story of cancel culture,
going on SNL, that's sort of what that was.
Right, 'cause there's a world where what Pete Davidson said...
-Right. Right. -...he didn't quite mean it.
He didn't quite mean it as badly
as people might have interpreted it.
-Now, if they did mean it, it's a different story. -Right.
Okay. Now you have to deal with that.
But when somebody takes an old Tweet or whatever it is--
and you see this constantly-- um, we have to ask ourselves,
"Is that fair? Is there really no forgiveness in our society?"
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -"Is there no redemption allowed
in our society?" So that's one aspect
of cancel culture as I see it.
Um, another aspect, which I think is
what probably right wingers like a lot less is... is this
making traditional and normal things taboo all of a sudden.
-Such as? -So this gets into, okay, we need
to cancel Aunt Jemima, right?
We need to cancel PAW Patrol.
These things that didn't offend anybody five seconds ago
-are now deeply offensive... -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
...and need to be canceled.
-I think that's what drives people crazy. -Right.
But some things did offend people, and don't get me wrong.
Like PAW Patrol, and I think some of the things are...
-It can go too far. -Yeah. No, no, no. I think...
I think there are combinations.
Sometimes I think what happens is,
there are people online who just chime in.
-Yeah. -They're not really invested, they just chime in.
-Right. -Then the algorithms online go like,
"Oh, it's become a thing," and it wasn't really a thing.
-Yeah. It's trending. Yeah. -Yeah, it's trending.
Then it becomes a thing.
Then the media outlets jump on it, and they go like,
"They're trying to cancel."
Then Fox will come from one side, "They cancelled."
Then MSNBC comes from the other side.
But a lot of the time I find it's people
who are just either criticizing.
Sometimes they're just roasting something.
Sometimes they're just making jokes and jumping on.
I feel like... I feel like
there's this weird attitude where now we have...
we have lost our ability to separate canceling
from criticism, from critique,
-from accountability, even. -Yeah. Yes.
-Do you know... do you get what I'm saying? -I do get
what you're saying, and, um,
and we do have to have that nuanced conversation.
That's why I tried to define "cancel culture"
the way I defined it.
I did not define it as everybody jumping on somebody.
-Right. -If you say something totally atrocious,
-maybe you deserve to be jumped on. -Oh, okay.
-Maybe you deserve to be piled on. -Okay.
You know, and we have... But... but did what...?
Is what you just said
-what everybody's been saying for years? -Right.
I mean, was it really worth piling on you for this?
And is it really worth kicking you out of society forever?
That's why I say, it's the changing of taboos.
That really is what we're talking about
-with cancel culture. -Mm-hmm.
And I totally agree with you.
I think a lot of people at corporations, when they...
'Cause... because I agree with you
that a lot of times you see a bunch of people yelling online.
-To me and you, that doesn't mean much to us. -Right.
Because we put it into perspective.
We're used to large amounts of people.
I say, "Well, a thousand people
"said something really mean about me,
but it's only a thousand."
-Like... -Right.
You know, but some people are, like, "Oh, my God.
-That's the end of my life." -Right, right, right.
And a corporate CEO oftentimes, too.
-"Well, we've got to pull that product." -Yes. Right.
'Cause a thousand angry people on Twitter said so.
And I encourage them to stand their ground,
because they're always rewarded for not giving in
to some of these silly cancel culture initiatives.
It feels like, for some people,
Republicans are now trying to cancel books in schools.
You know, Texas, I mean, your home state,
is having this fight about Critical Race Theory.
You know, some schools who didn't even have
Critical Race Theory are fighting
about Critical Race Theory.
People are confused about what it is or isn't.
You know, people are saying we shouldn't teach certain things,
some books should be kicked out.
It's confusing because it doesn't seem like everybody
has the same definition for what the argument is.
I do know that you have been outspoken on this.
From your perspective, I would love to know
what you think is going wrong in schools
and why you think certain things should or shouldn't be taught.
Or, like, and I don't want to put words in your mouth,
-so I'd love to know from you directly. -Yeah.
So, take the Texas example-- I'm not a state legislature,
so I can't speak in too much detail,
but effectively, yes, they did ban CRT in schools.
What they also did is increase, um,
increase teaching about slavery,
increase teaching about Jim Crow laws,
so, 'cause a lot of people say, who support CRT,
say, "Look, we're just teaching history."
And we say, "No, that's not what CRT is."
I think CRT is a misinterpretation of history,
and it leads to bad historical documents,
like the 1619 Project,
which a bunch of historians had to go back and debunk.
-Right. -Okay? So, CRT is a narrative, it's a theory,
Critical Race Theory, and it basically says
that you should view institutions and society
through the lens of race, primarily.
Or rather that, if I understand correctly,
or rather you should acknowledge that race played a major role
in the definition of some of those structures, I think.
-And I think I can acknowledge that, what you just said, -Okay.
I can certainly... Are there reverberations
from past discrimination in modern society?
-Yes. -We can have an honest conversation about that.
But what Critical Race Theory is often define--
not often, it always is defined this,
anytime I look into this and the writers of Critical Race Theory,
what really strikes me as odd about it,
and I don't understand why the left defends it,
because it seeks to challenge the liberal order--
and it says this very clearly--
it seeks to challenge, um, enlightenment rationality,
it seeks to challenge neutral justice,
-neutral application of the law. -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
It goes from this... it goes from this, um,
Ta-Nehisi Coates ideology that in order to fix
past discrimination there must be current discrimination.
Ooh, I do not... no, I don't know that he said that.
Ta-Nehisi Coates? I don't believe that he's ever said...
-Ibram X. Kendi. Ibram X. Kendi. -Yeah, okay.
-Sorry. Ibram X. Kendi. Ibram X. Kendi. -Because I...
-I still don't even know... -He did.
-That I'm 100% sure of. -But not talking about...
But let's talk about... So this is the idea
that I think, going back to the schools thing, rather,
is... so you're saying you're not against them
-teaching slavery in schools. -Of course not.
-I learned about it ad nauseam when I was a kid. -Right.
So, now, when talking about that,
or when talking about what Jim Crow was,
you're not against them explaining
-that this was explicitly tied to race? -Of course not.
Look, 'cause you've made this argument many times, right?
Redlining in the past might have...
-can affect how neighborhoods today are segregated. -Yes.
-Yes, right. -Of course we can see the connection there.
I don't think there's more to the story than that,
-but we get to learn about that. -So do you think maybe, then,
it's just a branding thing, then?
Is this like an Obamacare, Affordable Care Act situation?
-Is that what we're dealing with here? -No, I don't.
Because, I mean, if you really look
at the literature surrounding CRT,
I think it's very toxic, and I think it does teach...
I also think it's counterproductive.
But there are schools that have had these fights,
and they don't have CRT.
Literally, there are school boards
where people are fighting about CRT,
and they have no CRT curriculum.
And then now what they're doing is they're getting rid
-Yeah. -of other books by, like, Toni Morrison.
They're going like, "These..."
And books that have been in the schools, ironically.
Well, let's look at a recent example,
'cause there's all this fanfare going on
and controversy going on in Virginia.
We've got a governor's race coming up,
and this is at the crux of it, right?
-What's being taught in schools. -Yes, yes.
And so, has CRT been promulgated
at the schools, and the answer is yes.
I mean, there was directives from this current administration
in Virginia that says: you will teach Critical Race Theory.
So it's absolutely infiltrating schools.
Oftentimes, I think you're right
that there is not a class in high school
-called Critical Race Theory, -Mm-hmm.
but it does infuse, the teachings of it do infuse
something like diversity and inclusion training,
and who would be against
diversity and inclusion training?
But I would be against it
if you're teaching white students that they're evil.
When a child has to come home and say,
"Mom, am I evil because I'm white?"
Or a Black student has to say, "Am I disempowered?
"Am I automatically disempowered and at a disadvantage
because I'm Black?" That's bad.
You're setting that Black student up for, um,
for, basically, to be imprisoned by the sense of despair
for the rest of their life and I don't see
why you would start somebody's life off that way.
This goes to a certain Republican ideology--
and we'll move on after this-- um, where I feel
there's a difference, I feel, between...
telling somebody where they are
or what... what things...
-what obstacles they may face, -Mm-hmm.
and victim mentality.
And I think there's a difference between the two,
because I don't think it is wrong to tell a Black child:
hey, we live in this neighborhood because of this.
Your grandfather's house was taken away in Hermosa Beach,
or wherever, Manhattan Beach, or wherever they lived.
We had a business that we lost in this place.
You know, Tulsa, Oklahoma, whatever these things are.
I think it is valid to have those conversations
the same way America has these conversations
about the British and, like, this is how things came to be.
The same way Jewish people who have conversations,
like: Hey, your grandparents got kicked out of Poland.
That's why we're here today. And so I don't think
that that necessarily is creating a victim mentality.
I think it's... I think it's crucial to say...
-It doesn't have to. -Right. But I think...
I think the one can exist without the other.
They can, you just have to be careful about it,
and I think CRT forces... forces that pendulum
to swing rather far to the victimization mentality.
Okay. I see what you're saying. But you're saying
you're not against the conversations.
It's just how the framing of the conversation...
I don't think the conversations are threatening.
Let's talk a little bit, before I let you go, about COP.
-Yes. -You're heading out to COP26.
A lot of people will be surprised to hear this.
They're going like, "Dan Crenshaw,
what are you doing at COP?
This is a climate change meeting."
Um, But you're one of the Republicans who said:
No, we must have conversations about climate change
and what we're gonna do about it. You know,
I know, previously, in 2018, I think it was on Facebook,
you had this video where you said the science
hasn't been settled, the temperatures haven't risen,
and, you know, Hurricane Harvey,
the effects can't be tied to climate change.
I believe your views have evolved in that time,
and I'd love to know what your ideas are going forward
about what you think America needs to do...
I don't think I ever said any of those things in a video.
-On Facebook? -No.
I hope I'm wrong. No, I-I genuinely hope I'm wrong.
-I would have never claimed... -Could be fake news.
And I'm glad you're here, then.
So, I've always... this has always been my position.
-Okay. -Um, is...
is, look, climate change is real.
There's a... there's a...
-obviously a human element to that, -Mm-hmm.
and we need to take it seriously.
Any... any science, any data that I will cite
-in this conversation will be from the UN IPCC. -Right.
-The gold standard. Yeah. -The UN climate report.
Um, what I point out, uh, in many of these cases,
and maybe what I was referring to in that video,
is, something like Hurricane Harvey,
there is no serious scientist that would attribute
a single weather event to a trend,
-Right. -It would be-- That wouldn't be science.
That would just be conjecture.
Um, that's probably what I was referring to in this video
that must have been from a very long time ago.
Um, but I would never suggest that-that temperatures
-haven't necessarily risen. Of course they have. -Got it.
Um, and they'll continue to rise, to an extent.
Um, so... it's a problem.
There's going to be a cost associated with the problem.
Uh, it's not quite what the alarmists say it is,
and we can-- we can quibble with that.
But the real conversation has to be about what solutions
-we're actually in favor of. Okay? -That's what everyone's
-fighting about. Yeah. -And it seems to me that, look,
if you're a Green New Dealer,
you believe that the only solutions are solar and wind.
-You have to electrify the grid completely. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
I think that's nonsense.
Um, I'm not against solar and wind,
but I don't think they should relieve--
they should receive 250 times more subsidies
than nuclear energy, which gives us reliable energy
and it's carbon-free.
So there's smarter ways to do this.
I don't think we should attack the oil and gas industry,
especially in America. Why is that? Why do I say that?
Well, because you got to look at what worked. Okay?
We've reduced emissions in this country
more than the next ten countries combined.
We're back to 1992 levels. Why is that?
Almost entirely because of gas.
Because of the fracking industry.
Um, because it displaced coal.
Okay? It-it has about 50% the emissions of coal.
Imagine doing the same thing via our exports and via trade deals
with China and India.
You know, China, last year,
built three times more coal capacity
than the rest of the world combined?
Yeah, China hasn't been playing by the rules.
-I mean, everyone knows this. -They don't play by any rules.
-Right. -They play by their own-- Well, they play
by the rules that the Paris Climate Accord gave them,
which is you can keep emitting until 2030.
So if you're the Chinese, what are you gonna do?
I'm just gonna keep building coal plants so that, in 2030,
well, yeah, I built a new-- 100 new coal plants,
but now I can build 99
-and I can say I reduced it. -But hasn't-hasn't America
always been about what does America do?
Like, the world follows America.
It feels like America has an opportunity here to go,
"Oh, China's slipping on this.
"We're gonna take the mantle. We will be the leaders
in creation of new energy." Now, please don't get me wrong.
I think it is foolish for anyone to think
-this can happen overnight. -Yeah.
I think you have to transition.
We've seen that you can't create enough energy
from the sources that we talked about-- wind, et cetera, solar.
They haven't found ways to replicate that energy
immediately overnight. I agree with you on this.
But surely there are ways that now the gas and coal industry,
especially the oil industries, really,
can-can really, I think, pull a little bit more of their weight.
I mean, they themselves-- I think it was the-the oil
and, um-- What are they called?
You probably know their name better.
The industry of, like-- You know, all the oil companies
have come together and they said, "Hey,
"we are for paying what-what essentially amounts
-to a carbon tax." You know? -Yeah.
Some-some of the big oil companies are--
You got to be careful how we interpret
what they're saying, because what that does
is displace a lot of the medium-sized oil companies
-who can't deal with that. -Interesting. So you're saying
-they're using that as a slick move... -Yeah, it's not as--
And-and if you're gonna have a carbon tax,
it needs to be globalized.
Like, there should be a China carbon tax.
I mean, if-if we're gonna talk about carbon ta...
But you can't always wait for China though. Like, that's--
That-- No, and, honestly, this is my only thing,
is, like-like, is America gonna wait for China
to follow the rules before it just does the right thing?
No, we don't have to wait. A-Again, what-what I mentioned
a-a minute ago was the Chinese have an interest
-in reliable energy that's cheaper. -Yes.
And that looks a lot like U.S. natural gas.
And so... (stammers) In our last administration,
we talked about this-- getting China to buy
$12 billion worth of natural gas.
If you-- Let me-- let me give you a stat.
If you displaced coal in China with natural gas right now,
um, you'd have about a 50% reduction,
which is about a 13% to 15% reduction globally in emissions.
Talk about massive change
without even harming anybody, economically speaking.
Because what everybody's worried about,
including say the president of Uganda,
who wrote that scathing letter and editorial
in the Wall-Wall Street Journal,
they are not going to put off getting their people out
of poverty just for the sake of-of this obsession
with solar and wind.
So we can lead. I'm not saying we shouldn't lead.
But we should lead with technological innovations,
including our oil and gas companies.
They do a lot of this, by the way. Carbon capture is--
Uh, the carbon capture technology is growing radically.
Exxon's talking about a carbon hub in the Houston area.
There's ways to-to not destroy our economy
while also reducing emissions.
And that's why I'm going to COP26,
to promulgate that view.
Before I let you go then,
you-you have these conversations with your fellow Republicans.
What it feels like to me right now,
as somebody who just observes,
is it feels like the Republican Party is in a...
a really interesting watershed moment where...
I think it's, what, 46% or 43% of Republicans identify
-as Trumpers before Republicans. -Hmm.
You know, it-it now feels like the party's at a point where,
you know, to use sporting analogies--
we'd always complain about this back in the day--
we'd go like, "Players have forgotten that the badge
is more important than the player."
-You know? And you're trying to do certain things. -Yeah.
You have come under fire, for instance,
just for saying to people, "Hey, Trump didn't lose
because of some weird election fraud or whatever."
You've come under fire for this.
What do you think the future of the Republican Party will be?
Do you think the Republican Party can avoid
being co-opted by Trump?
And if the answer is yes or no,
what-what do you think the-the next moves need to be
for Republicans to keep moving forward
without being locked down in one person's ideology?
Yeah, and-and I tell Republicans all the time
we can't be locked into one person.
You know? We-we are a party that follows a set of ideals.
What is conservatism?
It's a problem-solving mechanism.
That's what we're selling to the American people.
We should talk about this more often, by the way.
Conservatism is a mechanism by which we solve problems
through a framework of limiting principles, fundamentally.
We should not get away from that.
Limiting principles is a key part of that.
An a-- an adherence to Western liberal values
is a-- is a key part of that.
Um, I will say this.
I-I do a ton of events.
Uh, I've-I've been doing a ton of events for the past year--
and, uh, these are Republican events, of course--
and the people who come to a Republican event
tend to be the more primary voter, activist crowd, right?
And I don't get questions about this.
I always get questions about this from the media.
Always. I never--
and I-- and I mean that in an absolute sense--
I mean never. Never do I get this question about Trump
from voters on the ground.
So I think polling has to be taken with a grain of salt.
I think people are very-- especially Republicans--
are very, very, uh, suspicious of pollsters
and they don't ever want to give in to you.
So-so they'll-- They want to defend Trump because--
But it doesn't mean they're obsessed with him,
but they do-- but they feel the need to defend him.
And so they'll tell that pollster,
-"Yeah, I'm a Trump supporter." -Oh, could explain why
the polls are often wrong.
They are often wrong, yeah.
Yeah, especially in and around Trump and Republicans.
Right, 'cause we-we have a very suspicious view of pollsters,
for whatever reason, and, um...
and so you have to take it with a grain of salt.
Well, I could talk to you forever,
but I know you have to go. You're catching a train back
-to D.C. Thank you for taking the time. -This was fun.
Thank you for chatting with me, and, uh, I hope to have you
-back on again. Good luck at, uh, COP26. -Love to. Thank you.
Don't forget, people. The congressman's books
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