1 00:00:01,168 --> 00:00:03,303 Hey, what's going on, everybody? I'm Trevor Noah, 2 00:00:03,337 --> 00:00:05,906 and this is The Daily Social Distancing Show. 3 00:00:05,939 --> 00:00:08,308 Today is March 2, 4 00:00:08,342 --> 00:00:11,378 which means it's the first week of Women's History Month. 5 00:00:11,411 --> 00:00:13,780 That's right-- it's that time of the year when men 6 00:00:13,814 --> 00:00:17,384 celebrate women's history by repeating it back to women 7 00:00:17,417 --> 00:00:20,053 just a little louder, as if we thought of it ourselves. 8 00:00:20,087 --> 00:00:21,688 Anyway, on tonight's show, 9 00:00:21,722 --> 00:00:23,624 Dr. Seuss is canceled, 10 00:00:23,657 --> 00:00:25,792 Governor Cuomo is crashing weddings, 11 00:00:25,826 --> 00:00:27,528 and meet Madison Cawthorn, 12 00:00:27,561 --> 00:00:30,130 the hot new scandal of the Republican party. 13 00:00:30,163 --> 00:00:31,798 So let's do this, people. 14 00:00:31,832 --> 00:00:34,168 Welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 15 00:00:34,201 --> 00:00:37,938 -? ? -ANNOUNCER: From Trevor's couch in New York City 16 00:00:37,971 --> 00:00:41,041 to your couch somewhere in the world, this is 17 00:00:41,074 --> 00:00:44,344 The Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah. 18 00:00:46,914 --> 00:00:50,317 Let's kick things off with the coronavirus vaccine-- 19 00:00:50,350 --> 00:00:53,554 the reason your grandma just reactivated her Tinder. 20 00:00:53,587 --> 00:00:56,823 Over the weekend, Johnson & Johnson became the third company 21 00:00:56,857 --> 00:01:00,260 to get a vaccine approved for use in the United States. 22 00:01:00,294 --> 00:01:03,197 And in even more good news today, it was announced that 23 00:01:03,230 --> 00:01:05,065 one of Johnson & Johnson's rivals, 24 00:01:05,098 --> 00:01:07,301 the pharma company Merck, will help 25 00:01:07,334 --> 00:01:10,337 produce the vaccine as a way to boost supply, 26 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:11,772 which is amazing. 27 00:01:11,805 --> 00:01:15,242 Two rival companies teaming up-- this is so rare, 28 00:01:15,275 --> 00:01:17,845 especially in the pharmaceutical world. 29 00:01:17,878 --> 00:01:19,346 I mean, we all watch TV. 30 00:01:19,379 --> 00:01:21,782 We've seen those Cialis ads. 31 00:01:21,815 --> 00:01:22,950 They've never once said, 32 00:01:22,983 --> 00:01:26,253 "Ask your doctor about Cialis or Viagra. 33 00:01:26,286 --> 00:01:29,990 All that matters is we get your rusty old dick working again." 34 00:01:30,023 --> 00:01:31,925 And it's because vaccine production is ramping up 35 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,428 that President Biden now says America 36 00:01:34,461 --> 00:01:36,663 will have a vaccine for every adult 37 00:01:36,697 --> 00:01:39,399 by the end of May, 38 00:01:39,433 --> 00:01:42,536 two months earlier than he predicted just a few weeks ago. 39 00:01:42,569 --> 00:01:45,973 Which means you're gonna have to fit back into your jeans 40 00:01:46,006 --> 00:01:47,708 a lot sooner than you thought. Yeah. 41 00:01:47,741 --> 00:01:48,909 Better get working. 42 00:01:48,942 --> 00:01:50,711 Now, I don't have that problem, 43 00:01:50,744 --> 00:01:54,181 because I cut all my jeans up for toilet paper last April. 44 00:01:54,214 --> 00:01:56,316 But let's move on to Andrew Cuomo, 45 00:01:56,350 --> 00:01:59,686 governor of New York and shaved Geico caveman. 46 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,323 He's already spent this week fighting off two accusations 47 00:02:03,357 --> 00:02:05,225 of sexual harassment. 48 00:02:05,259 --> 00:02:08,095 And now we're finding out about a third. 49 00:02:08,128 --> 00:02:10,831 NEWSWOMAN: This morning, New York governor Andrew Cuomo 50 00:02:10,864 --> 00:02:13,700 facing new calls for resignation after a third woman 51 00:02:13,734 --> 00:02:15,969 has come forward with accusations 52 00:02:16,003 --> 00:02:19,473 of sexual harassment. Anna Ruch telling The New York Times 53 00:02:19,506 --> 00:02:22,075 the governor tried to kiss her at a New York City 54 00:02:22,109 --> 00:02:25,879 wedding reception in 2019, and then sharing this photograph 55 00:02:25,913 --> 00:02:29,349 she says was captured on her cell phone that night 56 00:02:29,383 --> 00:02:32,252 by a friend, Ruch saying that when governor Cuomo 57 00:02:32,286 --> 00:02:34,054 put his hand on her bare lower back, 58 00:02:34,087 --> 00:02:37,224 she "promptly removed his hand with my hand." 59 00:02:37,257 --> 00:02:40,427 According to the paper, "the governor remarked that 60 00:02:40,460 --> 00:02:43,363 "she seemed 'aggressive' and placed his hands on her cheeks. 61 00:02:43,397 --> 00:02:45,766 He asked if he could kiss her." 62 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:49,203 Sweet Jesus. Man, what are you doing? 63 00:02:49,236 --> 00:02:52,039 I mean, on the one hand, asking women for consent 64 00:02:52,072 --> 00:02:54,908 before you kiss them is what you're supposed to do. 65 00:02:54,942 --> 00:02:59,279 But the other part of consent is waiting for them to answer. 66 00:02:59,313 --> 00:03:00,914 You don't just grab them by the face 67 00:03:00,948 --> 00:03:02,749 like a bear yanking on a beehive. 68 00:03:02,783 --> 00:03:04,318 (growling) 69 00:03:04,351 --> 00:03:05,986 I mean, look at this photo. 70 00:03:06,019 --> 00:03:07,387 How can you not tell that 71 00:03:07,421 --> 00:03:09,089 you're making this person uncomfortable? 72 00:03:09,122 --> 00:03:10,824 If you're doing something to someone that turns them 73 00:03:10,858 --> 00:03:14,661 into the (sucks teeth) emoji, you have done something wrong. 74 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:17,397 And what's so brazen about it is that he's doing it 75 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:20,067 right in front of everybody, in the middle of a wedding. 76 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,936 So now I want to know, was he doing this the whole night? 77 00:03:22,970 --> 00:03:25,005 You know? Are the bride and groom gonna be 78 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:26,874 looking at their wedding photos like, 79 00:03:26,907 --> 00:03:29,543 "Aw, honey, here's the picture of you smearing the cake 80 00:03:29,576 --> 00:03:32,279 "on my face. Oh, and there's the one 81 00:03:32,312 --> 00:03:34,314 of Governor Cuomo licking it off." 82 00:03:34,348 --> 00:03:35,949 And, by the way, it's not like this happened 83 00:03:35,983 --> 00:03:38,118 in, like, 1992, and he could be like, 84 00:03:38,151 --> 00:03:40,554 "Well, it was a different time." 85 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:43,323 This was in 2019. 86 00:03:43,357 --> 00:03:45,792 If you're a public official doing this kind of thing 87 00:03:45,826 --> 00:03:48,028 after the #MeToo movement, 88 00:03:48,061 --> 00:03:50,130 either you just can't help yourself 89 00:03:50,163 --> 00:03:53,133 or you're so dumb you shouldn't be in office anyway. 90 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:55,135 So, in light of these allegations, 91 00:03:55,169 --> 00:03:56,436 Cuomo is now facing 92 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:59,239 even more calls to resign. 93 00:03:59,273 --> 00:04:00,974 Although, if these allegations prove anything, 94 00:04:01,008 --> 00:04:04,378 it's that Cuomo doesn't go away when you want him to. 95 00:04:04,411 --> 00:04:06,213 But let's move on, because while Governor Cuomo 96 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:08,081 clearly hasn't adapted to the changing times, 97 00:04:08,115 --> 00:04:10,551 one of your favorite authors from childhood 98 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:12,519 is trying to. 99 00:04:12,553 --> 00:04:15,055 NEWSWOMAN: Breaking news: the organization that preserves 100 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:16,657 the legacy of author and illustrator Dr. Seuss 101 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:20,160 says it will stop publishing six titles 102 00:04:20,194 --> 00:04:21,628 because of racist imagery. 103 00:04:21,662 --> 00:04:24,731 Dr. Seuss Enterprises says the books portray people 104 00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:26,233 in ways that are hurtful and wrong. 105 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,735 NEWSWOMAN 2: The six books being banned include 106 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:30,938 And To Think That I Saw It On Mulberry Street, 107 00:04:30,971 --> 00:04:33,340 If I Ran the Zoo, McElligot's Pool, 108 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:35,843 On Beyond Zebra!, Scrambled Eggs Super! 109 00:04:35,876 --> 00:04:37,444 and The Cat's Quizzer. 110 00:04:37,477 --> 00:04:39,580 NEWSWOMAN 3: There are some examples of racist imagery 111 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:41,148 in those books. For example, 112 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:44,284 there's a character that's described as a Chinese man 113 00:04:44,318 --> 00:04:46,253 who eats with sticks, and the depiction 114 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:48,722 of that character has a pointed hat, 115 00:04:48,755 --> 00:04:50,924 slanted slit eyes. 116 00:04:50,958 --> 00:04:53,794 In another book, two men, said to be from Africa, 117 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:55,863 are shown shirtless, shoeless, 118 00:04:55,896 --> 00:04:59,499 wearing grass skirts as they carry exotic animals. 119 00:04:59,533 --> 00:05:01,935 Wow. Okay. 120 00:05:01,969 --> 00:05:05,572 So, what, we're just gonna cancel Dr. Seuss books 121 00:05:05,606 --> 00:05:07,274 just because they're racist? 122 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:10,777 Uh, then what are the racist kids gonna read, huh? 123 00:05:10,811 --> 00:05:12,179 You didn't think of that, did you? 124 00:05:12,212 --> 00:05:13,981 You know the real problem with Dr. Seuss 125 00:05:14,014 --> 00:05:16,450 is that all of his made-up words 126 00:05:16,483 --> 00:05:20,020 sound like they could be racial slurs. I mean, 127 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:22,289 a zelf on a shelf? 128 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:24,324 The nupboards in the cupboards? 129 00:05:24,358 --> 00:05:25,792 I don't know what that means, but if a white person 130 00:05:25,826 --> 00:05:28,495 calls me a nupboard, we're throwing down. 131 00:05:28,529 --> 00:05:31,265 And look, I know that this thing was blowing up 132 00:05:31,298 --> 00:05:32,766 and it was trending all over Twitter, 133 00:05:32,799 --> 00:05:34,768 but there's always gonna be people on Twitter 134 00:05:34,801 --> 00:05:37,704 telling you that this is the end of civilization. 135 00:05:37,738 --> 00:05:40,807 Because fanning the flames of culture wars 136 00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:43,210 is how they get attention. 137 00:05:43,243 --> 00:05:45,579 But let's be honest about what's happening here: 138 00:05:45,612 --> 00:05:49,249 an organization is making a decision on its own 139 00:05:49,283 --> 00:05:50,784 that they don't want to be associated 140 00:05:50,817 --> 00:05:53,954 with their own outdated and offensive imagery. 141 00:05:53,987 --> 00:05:56,023 That's not being canceled. That's something 142 00:05:56,056 --> 00:05:59,393 that companies and organizations do all the time. 143 00:05:59,426 --> 00:06:00,994 Like, at some point, Coca-Cola was like, 144 00:06:01,028 --> 00:06:03,964 "Hey, maybe putting cocaine in our drink 145 00:06:03,997 --> 00:06:06,867 is harmful to the public. Maybe we should stop doing that." 146 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:08,802 Nobody called that cancel culture. 147 00:06:08,836 --> 00:06:11,004 And despite what everyone tells you, 148 00:06:11,038 --> 00:06:14,007 everyone does this all the time, 149 00:06:14,041 --> 00:06:15,876 including CPAC. 150 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:19,413 Yeah, the home of freedom! 151 00:06:19,446 --> 00:06:20,948 Just a couple weeks ago, they 152 00:06:20,981 --> 00:06:23,584 canceled a speaker for his anti-Semitic views. 153 00:06:23,617 --> 00:06:24,885 Oh, but I guess 154 00:06:24,918 --> 00:06:27,254 that was just them looking out for the brand. 155 00:06:27,287 --> 00:06:29,489 Yeah, it only becomes cancel culture 156 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:30,858 when it's something you disagree with. 157 00:06:30,891 --> 00:06:32,993 But still, there may be room for compromise here. 158 00:06:33,026 --> 00:06:35,829 Like, maybe instead of getting rid of the books completely, 159 00:06:35,863 --> 00:06:37,231 they can just update the imagery. 160 00:06:37,264 --> 00:06:39,800 For example, take that offensive drawing of the two 161 00:06:39,833 --> 00:06:43,504 African men and put it in a Tucker Carlson thought bubble. 162 00:06:43,537 --> 00:06:47,040 That way we all understand, "Ah, this is racist." 163 00:06:47,074 --> 00:06:50,277 Let's move on now to our main story: 164 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:52,713 the other sexual harassment scandal 165 00:06:52,746 --> 00:06:55,315 taking over the political world right now. 166 00:06:55,349 --> 00:06:57,518 Also tonight, serious questions are swirling 167 00:06:57,551 --> 00:07:00,287 around the youngest member of Con-Congress, 168 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,991 an up-and-coming Republican with an increasingly high profile. 169 00:07:04,024 --> 00:07:06,059 NEWSWOMAN: He is considered a rising star 170 00:07:06,093 --> 00:07:07,694 in the Republican Party, 171 00:07:07,728 --> 00:07:09,997 but Congressman Madison Cawthorn's past 172 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:12,833 and the political persona he has cultivated 173 00:07:12,866 --> 00:07:15,202 is littered with dark allegations. 174 00:07:15,235 --> 00:07:17,304 Cawthorn faced numerous allegations 175 00:07:17,337 --> 00:07:19,106 of sexual harassment while attending 176 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:22,543 Patrick Henry College in Virginia just four years ago. 177 00:07:22,576 --> 00:07:25,078 Caitlin Coulter went to school with Cawthorn 178 00:07:25,112 --> 00:07:28,315 and says she was taken on what he called a fun drive. 179 00:07:28,348 --> 00:07:32,052 His M.O. was to take vulnerable women out 180 00:07:32,085 --> 00:07:35,889 on these rides with him in the car and to make advances. 181 00:07:35,923 --> 00:07:38,125 Cawthorn asked her about her purity ring 182 00:07:38,158 --> 00:07:39,726 and her sexual experiences. 183 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,628 Coulter says she felt something was off 184 00:07:41,662 --> 00:07:43,497 and shut down the conversation. 185 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:47,167 He got really upset and he whips the car around 186 00:07:47,201 --> 00:07:50,637 and started going back to campus at 70, 80 miles an hour 187 00:07:50,671 --> 00:07:52,139 on these one-lane roads. 188 00:07:52,172 --> 00:07:54,274 Um, and it was-- it was really scary. 189 00:07:54,308 --> 00:07:58,145 "There was a lot of sexual innuendo," Leah Petree told CNN. 190 00:07:58,178 --> 00:08:01,748 "It got really uncomfortable walking to and from class. 191 00:08:01,782 --> 00:08:03,350 "He would yell out, 'Are you ready to take 192 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:04,852 that fun drive today?'" 193 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:05,986 Oh, damn. 194 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:07,821 That guy doesn't sound fun at all. 195 00:08:07,855 --> 00:08:10,157 This guy was apparently sexually harassing women 196 00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:12,960 while driving like a crazy person? 197 00:08:12,993 --> 00:08:16,363 It's like if Mario Kart let you play as Harvey Weinstein. 198 00:08:16,396 --> 00:08:17,764 And just to be clear, 199 00:08:17,798 --> 00:08:20,667 this wasn't just making a few people uncomfortable. 200 00:08:20,701 --> 00:08:24,104 No, Cawthorn reportedly kissed women by force, 201 00:08:24,137 --> 00:08:26,039 put his hands up their skirts, 202 00:08:26,073 --> 00:08:28,408 and pulled one girl onto his lap 203 00:08:28,442 --> 00:08:30,577 and put his finger between her legs. 204 00:08:30,611 --> 00:08:33,647 In fact, it got so bad that R.A.s at the school 205 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,184 started warning students to stay away from him. 206 00:08:37,217 --> 00:08:38,719 And you know you're doing something wrong 207 00:08:38,752 --> 00:08:41,588 when you're in the same category as STDs and alcohol poisoning. 208 00:08:41,622 --> 00:08:43,924 But the question you may be asking is, 209 00:08:43,957 --> 00:08:46,927 who is Madison Cawthorn 210 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,229 and how did he go from college creep 211 00:08:49,263 --> 00:08:51,498 to congressman creep? 212 00:08:51,532 --> 00:08:55,602 Let's find out in another episode of Fringe-Watching. 213 00:08:55,636 --> 00:08:57,638 ? ? 214 00:08:58,939 --> 00:09:00,174 One year ago, 215 00:09:00,207 --> 00:09:02,509 Madison Cawthorn was not expected 216 00:09:02,543 --> 00:09:04,444 to be the next congressional representative 217 00:09:04,478 --> 00:09:05,979 from North Carolina. 218 00:09:06,013 --> 00:09:09,149 But he narrowly beat a more established conservative 219 00:09:09,183 --> 00:09:11,151 in the Republican primary 220 00:09:11,185 --> 00:09:15,322 by falsely smearing her as a Never Trumper. 221 00:09:15,355 --> 00:09:16,790 Because, you see, at this point, 222 00:09:16,823 --> 00:09:19,660 Never Trumper is the worst insult 223 00:09:19,693 --> 00:09:21,762 that you can say to a Republican. 224 00:09:21,795 --> 00:09:24,598 It goes: expert, 225 00:09:24,631 --> 00:09:26,266 Prius driver, 226 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:28,802 and then Never Trumper. 227 00:09:28,836 --> 00:09:31,004 That's the Republican version of the N-word. 228 00:09:31,038 --> 00:09:32,139 "You Never Trumper!" 229 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:33,740 "Don't you call me-- You take that back. 230 00:09:33,774 --> 00:09:35,442 Why, you don't use that word on me." 231 00:09:35,475 --> 00:09:37,344 "Okay, but you don't like Trump sometimes." 232 00:09:37,377 --> 00:09:39,346 But what really propelled Cawthorn into office 233 00:09:39,379 --> 00:09:42,282 was his compelling personal story, 234 00:09:42,316 --> 00:09:45,552 even if it wasn't 100% his. 235 00:09:45,586 --> 00:09:47,588 NEWSWOMAN: Fresh questions about his own account 236 00:09:47,621 --> 00:09:51,358 of the car accident that left him wheelchair-bound in 2014. 237 00:09:51,391 --> 00:09:53,861 CAWTHORN: He was my brother, my best friend. 238 00:09:53,894 --> 00:09:57,331 He-he leaves me in a car to die in a fiery tomb. 239 00:09:57,364 --> 00:09:59,266 NEWSWOMAN: Bradley Ledford, Cawthorn's friend 240 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:01,802 and the driver of the car, telling The Washington Post 241 00:10:01,835 --> 00:10:05,005 that Cawthorn's accounting of the accident was not true. 242 00:10:05,038 --> 00:10:06,540 Cawthorn's own parents 243 00:10:06,573 --> 00:10:08,675 undercutting their son's story, too, 244 00:10:08,709 --> 00:10:10,878 saying the driver of the car rescued him. 245 00:10:10,911 --> 00:10:13,881 That accident went on to be the core part of the narrative 246 00:10:13,914 --> 00:10:17,584 Cawthorn weaved about himself as he ran for Congress. 247 00:10:17,618 --> 00:10:20,687 ANNOUNCER: He planned on serving his country in the Navy 248 00:10:20,721 --> 00:10:25,225 with a nomination to the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis. 249 00:10:25,259 --> 00:10:29,563 -(siren wailing) -But all that changed in the spring of 2014, 250 00:10:29,596 --> 00:10:31,031 when tragedy struck. 251 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:33,133 NEWSWOMAN: But in this 2017 deposition 252 00:10:33,166 --> 00:10:35,802 related to the accident, obtained by CNN, 253 00:10:35,836 --> 00:10:39,306 Cawthorn admitted that he was rejected by the academy 254 00:10:39,339 --> 00:10:41,108 before the accident. 255 00:10:41,141 --> 00:10:44,044 So, this guy got rejected by the Naval Academy, 256 00:10:44,077 --> 00:10:45,879 then got into a car crash, 257 00:10:45,913 --> 00:10:50,250 and then claimed the crash was why he got rejected? 258 00:10:50,284 --> 00:10:52,619 Well, you know what they say: when life gives you lemons, 259 00:10:52,653 --> 00:10:55,222 blame the lemons for everything and you hope no one checks. 260 00:10:55,255 --> 00:10:57,491 And, look, man, this is a horrible thing 261 00:10:57,524 --> 00:10:59,626 that Cawthorn experienced. 262 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:02,095 But it's tragic enough on its own. 263 00:11:02,129 --> 00:11:04,131 And it's also genuinely inspiring 264 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:06,099 that he came back from it, 265 00:11:06,133 --> 00:11:07,768 which is probably why it's so weird 266 00:11:07,801 --> 00:11:10,337 that he felt the need to lie about things 267 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:13,473 like his friend abandoning him to die. 268 00:11:13,507 --> 00:11:15,542 I mean, dude rescued him from a car, 269 00:11:15,576 --> 00:11:18,178 and, in return, he threw him under the bus. 270 00:11:18,212 --> 00:11:19,446 And once people began digging 271 00:11:19,479 --> 00:11:20,948 into the rest of Cawthorn's story, 272 00:11:20,981 --> 00:11:23,250 they began finding lies everywhere. 273 00:11:23,283 --> 00:11:25,052 For instance, he claimed 274 00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:27,988 he turned down Princeton and Harvard. 275 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:29,456 That was not true. 276 00:11:29,489 --> 00:11:32,292 He claimed to be a successful business owner, 277 00:11:32,326 --> 00:11:34,461 even though his supposed investment company 278 00:11:34,494 --> 00:11:38,465 reported zero income and had only one employee, 279 00:11:38,498 --> 00:11:39,466 himself. 280 00:11:39,499 --> 00:11:41,134 He even claimed repeatedly 281 00:11:41,168 --> 00:11:43,937 to be training for the 2020 Paralympics, 282 00:11:43,971 --> 00:11:47,941 despite never being an elite athlete, 283 00:11:47,975 --> 00:11:51,512 something an actual Paralympian compared to 284 00:11:51,545 --> 00:11:54,214 "a kid saying they want to play in the NBA 285 00:11:54,248 --> 00:11:57,618 when they're on the fourth-grade basketball team." 286 00:11:57,651 --> 00:11:59,653 Which would obviously be ridiculous. 287 00:11:59,686 --> 00:12:03,690 I mean, no fourth grader could play in the NBA, 288 00:12:03,724 --> 00:12:05,459 except maybe for the Pistons. 289 00:12:05,492 --> 00:12:07,661 I mean, they... they need help. 290 00:12:07,694 --> 00:12:10,564 So, Madison Cawthorn has basically lied 291 00:12:10,597 --> 00:12:13,667 about every major event in his life. 292 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:15,202 And he's lucky that he's in politics, 293 00:12:15,235 --> 00:12:17,271 because there's no other career 294 00:12:17,304 --> 00:12:20,474 where you can be caught lying that much about your résumé 295 00:12:20,507 --> 00:12:23,177 and still be allowed to keep your job. 296 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:26,580 So, instead of attending Princeton or Harvard, 297 00:12:26,613 --> 00:12:29,283 Cawthorn went to a conservative Christian college 298 00:12:29,316 --> 00:12:32,186 where he led a squad known on campus 299 00:12:32,219 --> 00:12:34,254 as "the douche crew." 300 00:12:34,288 --> 00:12:36,356 Which is impressive, especially when you think 301 00:12:36,390 --> 00:12:38,692 about how much competition there is 302 00:12:38,725 --> 00:12:40,961 for that name on a college campus. 303 00:12:40,994 --> 00:12:42,596 You know? It's like working at a hedge fund 304 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:45,365 and being known as the guy with the coke problem. 305 00:12:45,399 --> 00:12:48,435 But after earning mostly D's, 306 00:12:48,468 --> 00:12:51,738 Cawthorn dropped out after only one semester 307 00:12:51,772 --> 00:12:53,140 to go and see the world. 308 00:12:53,173 --> 00:12:55,209 NEWSWOMAN: This 2017 Instagram post 309 00:12:55,242 --> 00:12:57,444 from a visit to Adolf Hitler's vacation home 310 00:12:57,477 --> 00:12:59,112 in Germany, the Eagle's Nest, 311 00:12:59,146 --> 00:13:01,815 where Cawthorn refers to Hitler as "the Führer." 312 00:13:01,849 --> 00:13:04,484 NEWSMAN: Posting, "The vacation house of the Führer. 313 00:13:04,518 --> 00:13:06,753 "Seeing the Eagle's Nest has been on my bucket list 314 00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:08,822 for a while. It did not disappoint." 315 00:13:08,856 --> 00:13:11,925 I'm definitely not a Nazi. Uh, I'm not a white supremacist. 316 00:13:11,959 --> 00:13:14,261 Okay, you know you messed up 317 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:16,296 if you need to follow your Instagram post with, 318 00:13:16,330 --> 00:13:18,332 "I'm definitely not a Nazi." 319 00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:20,200 I mean, nobody's posting kitten pictures like, 320 00:13:20,234 --> 00:13:23,837 "Just to be clear, I definitely think the Holocaust was bad. 321 00:13:23,871 --> 00:13:25,038 Meow." 322 00:13:25,072 --> 00:13:27,508 And it's not even that he visited Hitler's vacation home 323 00:13:27,541 --> 00:13:30,043 so much as how he wrote about it. 324 00:13:30,077 --> 00:13:32,412 He called it "the Führer's house." 325 00:13:32,446 --> 00:13:34,248 I mean, that's an extra level of respect 326 00:13:34,281 --> 00:13:36,350 when you're using Hitler's preferred pronouns. 327 00:13:36,383 --> 00:13:40,254 I mean, he even included the two dots over the "U." 328 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:42,623 What is that, the-the umlauts? 329 00:13:42,656 --> 00:13:44,291 Yo, that takes effort. 330 00:13:44,324 --> 00:13:45,692 I don't even know how you do that. 331 00:13:45,726 --> 00:13:48,095 I think you need to buy, like, a special keyboard. 332 00:13:48,128 --> 00:13:49,530 I can barely find the colon. 333 00:13:49,563 --> 00:13:50,998 Where are you finding the umlauts for Hitler? 334 00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:54,935 But maybe the strangest part of this post is that he said, 335 00:13:54,968 --> 00:13:58,605 "It did not disappoint." 336 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:02,543 The only way to make this post worst was if it did disappoint. 337 00:14:02,576 --> 00:14:04,578 "Just got to the Eagle's Nest. 338 00:14:04,611 --> 00:14:07,414 -Bummer. Not that Hitlery." -(phone chimes) 339 00:14:07,447 --> 00:14:09,783 So this was a little embarrassing, 340 00:14:09,816 --> 00:14:11,084 but it didn't stop Cawthorn 341 00:14:11,118 --> 00:14:14,154 from getting the ultimate stamp of approval. 342 00:14:14,188 --> 00:14:16,190 Where's Madison? Where is Madison? Is he here? 343 00:14:16,223 --> 00:14:19,159 -Right over here. -Madison Cawthorn, a real star. 344 00:14:19,193 --> 00:14:21,161 You're gonna be a star of the party. 345 00:14:21,195 --> 00:14:22,963 NEWSWOMAN: He rose to national prominence 346 00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:24,364 and then gained national attention 347 00:14:24,398 --> 00:14:26,200 at this summer's Republican Convention. 348 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:27,734 When I'm elected this November, 349 00:14:27,768 --> 00:14:31,605 I'll be the youngest member of Congress in over 200 years. 350 00:14:31,638 --> 00:14:34,174 And if you don't think young people can change the world, 351 00:14:34,208 --> 00:14:36,777 then you just don't know American history. 352 00:14:36,810 --> 00:14:39,146 George Washington was 21 353 00:14:39,179 --> 00:14:41,315 when he received his first military commission. 354 00:14:41,348 --> 00:14:44,518 Abe Lincoln-- 22 when he first ran for office. 355 00:14:44,551 --> 00:14:47,821 And my personal favorite, James Madison, was just 25 years old 356 00:14:47,855 --> 00:14:49,823 when he signed the Declaration of Independence. 357 00:14:49,857 --> 00:14:54,361 Yes, that, my friends, is incredible. 358 00:14:54,394 --> 00:14:56,330 Or it would be 359 00:14:56,363 --> 00:14:58,398 if James Madison had actually signed 360 00:14:58,432 --> 00:15:01,335 the Declaration of Independence, but he didn't. 361 00:15:01,368 --> 00:15:03,370 I guess Cawthorn is so into lying 362 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:05,806 that he's even padding other people's resumes now? 363 00:15:05,839 --> 00:15:07,441 I mean, sooner or later, this dude's gonna 364 00:15:07,474 --> 00:15:10,010 get his alternate realities completely mixed up. 365 00:15:10,043 --> 00:15:13,514 And let's not forget Thomas Jefferson, 366 00:15:13,547 --> 00:15:17,084 who left me for dead in that car accident. 367 00:15:17,117 --> 00:15:18,418 And please, don't get me wrong. 368 00:15:18,452 --> 00:15:19,987 This isn't the biggest deal in the world. 369 00:15:20,020 --> 00:15:21,588 In fact, I'm kind of impressed 370 00:15:21,622 --> 00:15:24,091 that Cawthorn picked the one Founding Father 371 00:15:24,124 --> 00:15:26,527 who didn't sign the Declaration of Independence. 372 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,729 Look at those signatures. Look at all those signatures. 373 00:15:28,762 --> 00:15:30,230 They were passing that thing around 374 00:15:30,264 --> 00:15:31,932 like an office birthday card. 375 00:15:31,965 --> 00:15:34,067 And so, Madison Cawthorn made history 376 00:15:34,101 --> 00:15:38,105 as the youngest member of Congress ever. 377 00:15:38,138 --> 00:15:40,908 And he celebrated this milestone in American democracy 378 00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:44,945 by immediately trying to undo American democracy. 379 00:15:44,978 --> 00:15:46,246 CAWTHORN: My first act as a member 380 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,681 of Congress will be to object 381 00:15:47,714 --> 00:15:49,550 to the electoral college certification 382 00:15:49,583 --> 00:15:51,118 of the 2020 election. 383 00:15:51,151 --> 00:15:52,786 If you don't start supporting election integrity, 384 00:15:52,819 --> 00:15:54,288 I'm coming after you. 385 00:15:54,321 --> 00:15:55,989 Madison Cawthorn's coming after you. 386 00:15:56,023 --> 00:15:57,558 Everybody's coming after you. 387 00:15:57,591 --> 00:16:01,061 Get on the phone, call your congressman, and feel free... 388 00:16:01,094 --> 00:16:02,529 You can lightly threaten them. 389 00:16:02,563 --> 00:16:04,264 Yes, just a few weeks 390 00:16:04,298 --> 00:16:07,134 before rioters stormed the Capitol building, 391 00:16:07,167 --> 00:16:09,269 Madison Cawthorn was telling people 392 00:16:09,303 --> 00:16:12,773 to lightly threaten their congressmen. 393 00:16:12,806 --> 00:16:16,176 which I guess is when you say you're gonna kill a dude, 394 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:19,112 then throw in some funny memes just to balance it out. 395 00:16:19,146 --> 00:16:20,347 But you know, in many ways, 396 00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:21,982 the Republican Party couldn't have asked 397 00:16:22,015 --> 00:16:25,085 for a better star to push their lie. 398 00:16:25,118 --> 00:16:28,055 Because unlike the Paralympics, this is something 399 00:16:28,088 --> 00:16:31,058 he's actually been training for his whole life. 400 00:16:31,091 --> 00:16:32,659 So that's Madison Cawthorn. 401 00:16:32,693 --> 00:16:34,561 He claims the election was stolen, 402 00:16:34,595 --> 00:16:36,630 lies about everything in his life, 403 00:16:36,663 --> 00:16:39,333 and has dubious opinions about Nazis, 404 00:16:39,366 --> 00:16:42,769 and an alleged history of sexual assault. 405 00:16:42,803 --> 00:16:45,706 What I'm saying is, as soon as this guy can get a fake I.D. 406 00:16:45,739 --> 00:16:50,310 saying he's 35, ooh, my friends, he's gonna be president. 407 00:16:50,344 --> 00:16:53,213 All right, when we come back, Representative Adam Kinzinger 408 00:16:53,247 --> 00:16:55,649 will be joining us on the show to talk about taking a stand 409 00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:58,385 against the president of his own party. 410 00:16:58,418 --> 00:16:58,485 You don't want to miss it. 411 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:03,022 Welcome back to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 412 00:17:03,055 --> 00:17:04,456 Earlier today, I spoke 413 00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:08,194 to Republican Congressman of Illinois, Adam Kinzinger. 414 00:17:08,227 --> 00:17:10,262 We talked about breaking from his party 415 00:17:10,296 --> 00:17:12,031 to oppose Donald Trump 416 00:17:12,064 --> 00:17:15,334 and what he sees as the future of the GOP. 417 00:17:15,367 --> 00:17:16,769 Congressman Kinzinger, welcome 418 00:17:16,802 --> 00:17:18,804 to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 419 00:17:18,837 --> 00:17:20,940 Thanks. Good to be with you. 420 00:17:20,973 --> 00:17:23,075 So first questions first. 421 00:17:23,108 --> 00:17:26,378 Where do people go to find a new family? 422 00:17:26,412 --> 00:17:28,981 Because you were famously thrust into the news 423 00:17:29,014 --> 00:17:31,217 when your family wrote you a letter, 424 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:33,352 not only saying that you had betrayed Donald Trump 425 00:17:33,385 --> 00:17:37,223 and you had betrayed them, but you had joined the devil's army. 426 00:17:37,256 --> 00:17:39,258 Quite a letter to get from some of your family members. 427 00:17:39,291 --> 00:17:42,828 Yeah, it was a little surprising, you know, and, uh... 428 00:17:42,862 --> 00:17:46,131 But, so, I look at it and say, "Look, I have a great family." 429 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:48,467 Some closer than... You know, may disagree with me, 430 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:51,971 that aren't gonna send me a devil's army conscription form. 431 00:17:52,004 --> 00:17:53,472 But, uh, yeah, it was pretty crazy. 432 00:17:53,505 --> 00:17:55,174 But I'm glad it got out there. I didn't release it. 433 00:17:55,207 --> 00:17:57,910 She sent it so far and wide, actually that it... 434 00:17:57,943 --> 00:17:59,211 the reporter was able to find it. 435 00:17:59,245 --> 00:18:01,447 But you know, it kind of shows people 436 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,315 what's going on in families today. 437 00:18:03,349 --> 00:18:06,652 But your own family thinks 438 00:18:06,685 --> 00:18:08,721 that you have betrayed Donald Trump, 439 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:10,556 and you are betraying the Republican Party, 440 00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:12,024 by saying that Donald Trump didn't, 441 00:18:12,057 --> 00:18:13,526 in fact, win the election, 442 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:16,529 and there was no giant steal, AKA the big lie. 443 00:18:16,562 --> 00:18:19,031 If a Republican cannot convince his Republican family 444 00:18:19,064 --> 00:18:21,267 of these things, what hope is there for America? 445 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:23,102 Well, I do think there's hope, and if you think about it, 446 00:18:23,135 --> 00:18:26,071 look at how long it took to really go from... 447 00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:28,340 When Donald Trump announced, he came down the escalator, 448 00:18:28,374 --> 00:18:29,808 he had, like, ten percent support. 449 00:18:29,842 --> 00:18:31,844 Everybody thought he was a joke, and then, 450 00:18:31,877 --> 00:18:35,147 over time, when he was talking, he eventually kind of led 451 00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:36,649 to this movement that we have. 452 00:18:36,682 --> 00:18:39,018 So it's gonna take some time to pull people out of that. 453 00:18:39,051 --> 00:18:40,886 But I think, up to this point, 454 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,755 we've had no competing narrative. 455 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:44,156 You know, if you don't hear anybody saying, 456 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:47,059 the election wasn't stolen, and 74 million people 457 00:18:47,092 --> 00:18:48,961 that voted for Trump weren't disenfranchised; 458 00:18:48,994 --> 00:18:50,663 they were just outnumbered, 459 00:18:50,696 --> 00:18:52,131 until somebody says that aggressively, 460 00:18:52,164 --> 00:18:53,399 you're gonna believe it. 461 00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:54,700 And that's what's important right now, 462 00:18:54,733 --> 00:18:56,001 is just to tell people the truth. 463 00:18:56,035 --> 00:18:57,937 You know, there's this culture war brewing here 464 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:00,239 where it's all about owning the other side, 465 00:19:00,272 --> 00:19:02,541 and I still want to go out and fight for principles. 466 00:19:02,575 --> 00:19:04,410 And that's where I think the pivot needs to happen 467 00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:07,046 that's actually gonna save, not just the Republican Party, 468 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:10,216 but the country, is if we actually start talking 469 00:19:10,249 --> 00:19:11,850 about policy, principle again, 470 00:19:11,884 --> 00:19:13,752 how to bring people up from poverty, 471 00:19:13,786 --> 00:19:15,621 you know, what defending the country means. 472 00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:17,323 Those are the kinds of things that I think 473 00:19:17,356 --> 00:19:18,958 Americans are actually desperate for. 474 00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:21,360 They're just not the loudest ones tweeting. 475 00:19:21,393 --> 00:19:23,395 When we look at that now, I mean, 476 00:19:23,429 --> 00:19:25,331 America is going through one of its toughest periods. 477 00:19:25,364 --> 00:19:26,665 I mean, the world is. 478 00:19:26,699 --> 00:19:28,200 We've never seen anything like it. 479 00:19:28,234 --> 00:19:30,536 Um, Joe Biden is trying 480 00:19:30,569 --> 00:19:34,640 to pass his $1.9 trillion relief bill for COVID. 481 00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:36,642 There's been a lot of back-and-forth on this. 482 00:19:36,675 --> 00:19:38,577 You are a Congress person. I would love to know, 483 00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:41,146 from your perspective, why you're opposed 484 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:44,083 to Joe Biden's $1.9 trillion plan. 485 00:19:44,116 --> 00:19:47,152 Yeah, look, there was... there was no effort to reach out. 486 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:48,487 I never had a conversation with anybody 487 00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:50,155 in the White House about it. 488 00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:52,358 No effort to say, "What does it take to bring you on board?" 489 00:19:52,391 --> 00:19:54,426 I'm desperate to have a compromise on this, 490 00:19:54,460 --> 00:19:56,729 and I'm hoping that when it comes back from the Senate, 491 00:19:56,762 --> 00:19:58,998 there'll be some changes, actually making sure 492 00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:01,700 that we're giving the amount of money that these states need, 493 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:03,369 and not just writing a blank check, 494 00:20:03,402 --> 00:20:05,871 and that some of the money towards, uh, education, 495 00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:07,740 for instance, is actually done this year. 496 00:20:07,773 --> 00:20:09,508 A lot of it's next year. And there actually needs 497 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:11,911 to be more money for-for medicine and research. 498 00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:14,246 So, look, I'm one of the ones that's eager 499 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,449 to say, "Let's do this. Let's work on things together." 500 00:20:17,483 --> 00:20:19,752 And that we both just have to be willing to do it. 501 00:20:19,785 --> 00:20:22,021 And so, I'm not gonna blame, you know, the president 502 00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:23,789 for not reaching out to Republicans. 503 00:20:23,822 --> 00:20:25,391 They make a decision. 504 00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:27,359 But I do think if somehow it gets blocked up 505 00:20:27,393 --> 00:20:30,229 in the Senate, we have an opportunity to get this done. 506 00:20:30,262 --> 00:20:31,730 The bill has quite a few proposals. 507 00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:33,399 It touches on everything, from, you know, 508 00:20:33,432 --> 00:20:34,767 raising the minimum wage, 509 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,036 which is now probably out of the conversation, 510 00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:39,838 you know, to getting funding to people who work in restaurants 511 00:20:39,872 --> 00:20:42,208 and bars, and making sure that people get vaccinated 512 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:44,276 and providing PPP, et cetera. 513 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:46,512 What would you change in that bill? 514 00:20:46,545 --> 00:20:47,746 What do you think it's missing 515 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:50,282 if they had come and spoken to you? 516 00:20:50,316 --> 00:20:51,784 Gee, I don't know if it's missing anything. 517 00:20:51,817 --> 00:20:53,586 I do think we can come to a compromise 518 00:20:53,619 --> 00:20:55,254 on the minimum wage, for instance. 519 00:20:55,287 --> 00:20:57,423 Like, I'm for increasing the minimum wage. 520 00:20:57,456 --> 00:21:00,359 I just think doing it at this moment right to 15 bucks, 521 00:21:00,392 --> 00:21:03,028 you know, over a short period when businesses are struggling 522 00:21:03,062 --> 00:21:04,363 is the wrong time. 523 00:21:04,396 --> 00:21:05,998 So I would like to see an increase. 524 00:21:06,031 --> 00:21:07,733 But on things like opening schools, 525 00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:09,869 there's over $300 billion that goes to that, 526 00:21:09,902 --> 00:21:12,171 but most of it doesn't go in until next year. 527 00:21:12,204 --> 00:21:14,173 And you look at things like vaccine researches 528 00:21:14,206 --> 00:21:15,541 for the future, 529 00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:18,210 you look at things like helping hospitals now, 530 00:21:18,244 --> 00:21:20,446 and then the fact, you know, Illinois, for instance, 531 00:21:20,479 --> 00:21:22,281 which has had this huge systemic problem 532 00:21:22,314 --> 00:21:24,850 of fiscal mismanagement, just gets a ton of money 533 00:21:24,884 --> 00:21:26,252 from the federal government. 534 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,487 I want that to be more based on need 535 00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:30,656 instead of just based on number. 536 00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:33,259 When you look at that, though, America has a history 537 00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:36,095 of underpreparing for these situations. 538 00:21:36,128 --> 00:21:38,364 You know, if you go back, every time there's, like, 539 00:21:38,397 --> 00:21:41,467 a stimulus bill, every time it falls short of the mark. 540 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:43,369 And in hindsight, economists go, "Aw, 541 00:21:43,402 --> 00:21:45,337 "we just didn't spend enough money. 542 00:21:45,371 --> 00:21:47,439 We didn't give the people enough money." 543 00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:50,276 I mean, 70% of Americans are saying, "We want this bill. 544 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:52,111 We want these checks. We need this help." 545 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:54,947 Don't you think it's better to err on the side of caution 546 00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:57,483 and just go like, "Well, let's maybe overspend, 547 00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:58,884 "but let's get the economy going 548 00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:00,553 "and let's get people out of their houses 549 00:22:00,586 --> 00:22:02,188 and let's get people eating again." 550 00:22:02,221 --> 00:22:04,089 Yeah, look, I think it's a good point to make, 551 00:22:04,123 --> 00:22:05,558 and I think, you know, for the last year 552 00:22:05,591 --> 00:22:06,692 we've been doing that. 553 00:22:06,725 --> 00:22:08,994 There have been a lot of pretty sizable amounts of money 554 00:22:09,028 --> 00:22:10,896 we've been spending on things 555 00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:13,432 like the Payroll Protection Program, et cetera. 556 00:22:13,465 --> 00:22:16,402 But look, if you want to reach out to me for that output, 557 00:22:16,435 --> 00:22:18,871 I'm happy to chat with the administration about it, 558 00:22:18,904 --> 00:22:20,973 but they didn't, and the numbers I saw were like, 559 00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:23,209 hey, yeah, we're gonna spend a lot of money, 560 00:22:23,242 --> 00:22:26,011 but we still have to understand what we're doing with it, 561 00:22:26,045 --> 00:22:28,347 because this money has to be paid back at some point. 562 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:30,416 So again, my hope is, with the Senate, 563 00:22:30,449 --> 00:22:32,117 you know, if it hits a bottleneck there 564 00:22:32,151 --> 00:22:34,019 we can have an opportunity for bipartisan. 565 00:22:34,053 --> 00:22:36,288 And I'm still eager on bipartisan things, 566 00:22:36,322 --> 00:22:37,623 like infrastructure going forward, 567 00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:39,592 'cause this country deserves people 568 00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,594 that can have a conversation, like you and I are, 569 00:22:41,627 --> 00:22:43,562 on this issue without just hating each other. 570 00:22:43,596 --> 00:22:45,831 Uh, my personal opinion has been that, you know, 571 00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:48,567 I think the two-party system will, in some way, shape or form 572 00:22:48,601 --> 00:22:50,269 end up destroying America. 573 00:22:50,302 --> 00:22:52,705 That's my personal view, because think it doesn't give people 574 00:22:52,738 --> 00:22:55,407 enough room to be more than just one of two sides. 575 00:22:55,441 --> 00:22:57,743 I don't think there's two sides to anything. 576 00:22:57,776 --> 00:22:59,879 Right now, though, the Republican Party's 577 00:22:59,912 --> 00:23:02,181 in an interesting place. 578 00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:05,251 Are you a conservative, and do you have these beliefs? 579 00:23:05,284 --> 00:23:07,319 Or do you raise a flag that says "Donald Trump"? 580 00:23:07,353 --> 00:23:09,722 And it feels like more Republicans are saying, 581 00:23:09,755 --> 00:23:12,291 "Forget Republican, we are Trump." 582 00:23:12,324 --> 00:23:14,360 Where do you then go from there? 583 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,262 Yeah, so that's what the battle is right now, 584 00:23:16,295 --> 00:23:18,664 and I think that's gonna be... (audio breaking up) 585 00:23:18,697 --> 00:23:20,399 ...over the summer. 586 00:23:20,432 --> 00:23:24,203 I think Donald Trump is gonna continue to be lessened 587 00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,238 as every day goes on, because Americans, we have a... 588 00:23:26,272 --> 00:23:28,007 we don't always solve challenges, 589 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,175 but we move on from them, and we move on to the next president. 590 00:23:30,209 --> 00:23:32,444 So that's why I started country1st.com, 591 00:23:32,478 --> 00:23:35,047 with a 1-S-T, it's just, like, especially for Republicans, 592 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,949 Independents, and even Democrats say, 593 00:23:36,982 --> 00:23:38,651 we need a healthy Republican Party 594 00:23:38,684 --> 00:23:41,287 to have a place to go to fight for the narrative 595 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,289 of the Republican Party, 'cause I'll tell you what, 596 00:23:43,322 --> 00:23:45,491 the two-party system won't destroy the country 597 00:23:45,524 --> 00:23:47,626 if you have a healthy opportunity for debate 598 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:48,861 and an open tent. 599 00:23:48,894 --> 00:23:50,296 We should have people that disagree 600 00:23:50,329 --> 00:23:54,667 in the Republican Party, as the Democrats do in their party. 601 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:57,036 Well, um, you are in for the ride of your life. 602 00:23:57,069 --> 00:23:58,704 It is gonna be extremely vicious. 603 00:23:58,737 --> 00:24:02,208 It is going to be, um... extreme, 604 00:24:02,241 --> 00:24:04,276 as you've seen from within your own family. 605 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:07,446 And so, uh, we'll be watching, and, um, yeah, good luck to you 606 00:24:07,479 --> 00:24:09,515 -versus Donald Trump. -Thank you. Well, you know what? 607 00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:11,951 Some things you got to put it all on the line for, 608 00:24:11,984 --> 00:24:14,086 -and I'm willing to. -I hear you there. 609 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,055 -Thank you so much for taking the time, Congressman. -You bet. 610 00:24:16,088 --> 00:24:18,057 Thanks again to Congressman Kinzinger 611 00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:19,225 for joining us on the show. 612 00:24:19,258 --> 00:24:22,728 When we come back, the amazing H.E.R. will be my guest, 613 00:24:22,761 --> 00:24:24,930 and we'll talk about the Grammys, the Oscars 614 00:24:24,964 --> 00:24:25,030 and how she's taken over the world. So don't away. 615 00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:31,103 Welcome back to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 616 00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:34,005 Earlier today, I spoke with Grammy Award-winning musician, 617 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:35,240 H.E.R. 618 00:24:35,273 --> 00:24:38,076 We talked about making music during the pandemic, 619 00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:40,011 being shortlisted for an Oscar, 620 00:24:40,045 --> 00:24:43,381 and who the person is behind the mysterious name. 621 00:24:43,415 --> 00:24:46,752 H.E.R., welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. 622 00:24:46,785 --> 00:24:48,520 Thank you. Thank you for having me. 623 00:24:48,553 --> 00:24:51,022 Um, it is an absolute pleasure having you on, 624 00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:54,159 because you have become just the soundtrack. 625 00:24:54,192 --> 00:24:56,428 Not the soundtrack of life, not the soundtrack of the pandemic, 626 00:24:56,461 --> 00:24:58,630 just the soundtrack. 627 00:24:58,663 --> 00:25:00,866 That is what I feel like when I think of H.E.R. 628 00:25:00,899 --> 00:25:03,468 Before we get into the music itself, though, 629 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:06,772 I would love to know the story behind H.E.R. 630 00:25:06,805 --> 00:25:09,341 Because it is one of the most unique artist names 631 00:25:09,374 --> 00:25:10,642 I've ever came across. 632 00:25:10,675 --> 00:25:12,277 (laughs): Thank you. Thank you. 633 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:15,247 Um, yeah, you know, um, I've just always loved music 634 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,882 since I was a little girl. 635 00:25:16,915 --> 00:25:18,717 It's always kind of been a given to me 636 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:21,987 just doing music, and, um, I got signed very young, 637 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:25,290 but I was making this very honest music, um, 638 00:25:25,323 --> 00:25:27,659 in high school that kind of just represented 639 00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:29,761 what I like to call "the evolution of woman," 640 00:25:29,795 --> 00:25:31,263 and me becoming a young woman 641 00:25:31,296 --> 00:25:32,898 and going through different things 642 00:25:32,931 --> 00:25:35,967 and, you know, changing and vulnerability, 643 00:25:36,001 --> 00:25:39,371 and, um, I guess, you know, even it wasn't that deep, 644 00:25:39,404 --> 00:25:42,140 it was always that deep for me, so I was writing this music 645 00:25:42,174 --> 00:25:46,044 that was kind of heavy, um, and created this E.P., 646 00:25:46,078 --> 00:25:49,881 Volume 1, and I really wanted the project 647 00:25:49,915 --> 00:25:52,184 to just be... the cover of the project 648 00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:56,088 to just be a silhouette, where nobody knew what I looked like 649 00:25:56,121 --> 00:25:58,023 or, you know, anything about me, 650 00:25:58,056 --> 00:26:01,026 and I wanted to have everything revealed 651 00:26:01,059 --> 00:26:04,196 in the music, and not what we sometimes focus on 652 00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:07,833 with social media, 'cause I'm really about the music. 653 00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:09,468 And that's where it came from. 654 00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:11,903 Yeah, I feel like, more than most artists, 655 00:26:11,937 --> 00:26:15,040 you're really, really, really focused on, 656 00:26:15,073 --> 00:26:17,743 not just the music, but on keeping the music separate 657 00:26:17,776 --> 00:26:19,478 from your life. 658 00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:20,912 And it feels like it's really intentional, 659 00:26:20,946 --> 00:26:23,515 where you've gone, "I don't want you to know the person 660 00:26:23,548 --> 00:26:26,084 behind this, I want you to know what the person is giving you." 661 00:26:26,118 --> 00:26:28,286 Why was that such a big deal for you, and is that... 662 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,422 -is that a correct assertion? -Absolutely. 663 00:26:30,455 --> 00:26:32,657 It's a big deal for me, because I think music is... 664 00:26:32,691 --> 00:26:35,260 is the foundation and music is the main part of it. 665 00:26:35,293 --> 00:26:37,295 We get so caught up in what everybody else is doing, 666 00:26:37,329 --> 00:26:38,930 and then sometimes we get disappointed, 667 00:26:38,964 --> 00:26:41,399 because at the end of the day, you know, we're all human, 668 00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:43,535 we are all flawed, we all go through things, 669 00:26:43,568 --> 00:26:45,570 and we all have stuff we deal with 670 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:48,640 outside of our art, and I really just wanted to focus 671 00:26:48,673 --> 00:26:50,409 on the art, and, um, you know, 672 00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:52,844 have a kind of a sense of privacy, I guess. 673 00:26:52,878 --> 00:26:55,480 But, um, you know, the music is the message. 674 00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:56,615 It makes you want to fall in love. 675 00:26:56,648 --> 00:26:57,816 It makes you, you know, sad. 676 00:26:57,849 --> 00:26:59,017 It tells you what's going on. 677 00:26:59,050 --> 00:27:00,852 It's just a lot of things that music does, 678 00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:02,320 and I think we forgot about that. 679 00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:05,290 We forgot about the substance that is the art of music, 680 00:27:05,323 --> 00:27:06,691 and-and that's what I'm about. 681 00:27:06,725 --> 00:27:09,294 You remind me of, um, some of the greatest artists 682 00:27:09,327 --> 00:27:11,263 of-of, like, my parents' generation 683 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:13,932 where you-you can make beautiful music about anything, 684 00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:16,501 but there are moments where you take your time 685 00:27:16,535 --> 00:27:18,303 to make a song about the pain 686 00:27:18,336 --> 00:27:19,971 that people are experiencing in life. 687 00:27:20,005 --> 00:27:21,273 A-And, you know, 688 00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:23,642 one of the most famous songs in that regard 689 00:27:23,675 --> 00:27:26,111 is "I Can't Breathe," you know, a song that came out 690 00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:28,580 during the height of protests in America, 691 00:27:28,613 --> 00:27:31,083 during the height of many people's pain in America. 692 00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:32,884 Um, you wrote another song recently 693 00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:34,152 about Fred Hampton, you know, 694 00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:35,353 for Judas and the Black Messiah. 695 00:27:35,387 --> 00:27:36,788 Another song nominated. 696 00:27:36,822 --> 00:27:39,291 And all of these songs are really painful, 697 00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:41,259 but at the same time, it feels like you're trying 698 00:27:41,293 --> 00:27:42,961 to inspire us to something. 699 00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:45,530 You know, it-it doesn't feel like it's a hopeless song. 700 00:27:45,564 --> 00:27:47,132 It feels like it's hopeful 701 00:27:47,165 --> 00:27:49,601 despite the stories ending the way that they did. 702 00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:51,870 When you're making that music, 703 00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:55,140 do you... do you think about the thing first, 704 00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:57,976 or does, you know, does-does the event inspire you? 705 00:27:58,009 --> 00:28:00,178 I'd love to know what that process is 706 00:28:00,212 --> 00:28:01,379 or how it comes about for you, 707 00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:03,081 because it really connects with people. 708 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:05,183 Oh, thank you. I-It really depends. 709 00:28:05,217 --> 00:28:07,886 You know, when it... when it came to-to, like, 710 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:09,354 a song like "I Can't Breathe," 711 00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:11,156 it was the heat of the moment. 712 00:28:11,189 --> 00:28:13,458 It was like, okay, I'm literally looking 713 00:28:13,492 --> 00:28:15,727 outside my window in New York City 714 00:28:15,761 --> 00:28:19,564 and seeing a huge crowd of people protesting, 715 00:28:19,598 --> 00:28:23,001 and I'm seeing all these things on the news, on social media. 716 00:28:23,034 --> 00:28:25,303 It's everywhere we look. And it's great 717 00:28:25,337 --> 00:28:26,671 that it's everywhere we look now, 718 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:28,573 because now there's kind of this awakening, 719 00:28:28,607 --> 00:28:29,975 -I think, going on. -Right. 720 00:28:30,008 --> 00:28:32,544 And, um, and a lot is being exposed, 721 00:28:32,577 --> 00:28:34,146 and we've had time to be still. 722 00:28:34,179 --> 00:28:37,115 And, so, you know, I've had time to be still 723 00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:38,583 and look at the world around me 724 00:28:38,617 --> 00:28:41,453 and-and really sit with this pain 725 00:28:41,486 --> 00:28:42,988 and this kind of anxiety like... 726 00:28:43,021 --> 00:28:45,023 Okay, you know, some of the lyrics are like, 727 00:28:45,056 --> 00:28:47,159 "How do we cope when we don't love each other? 728 00:28:47,192 --> 00:28:49,327 What is a gun to a man that surrenders?" 729 00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:51,463 You know, "How do we judge off of color?" 730 00:28:51,496 --> 00:28:54,766 And, you know, all of these things that I said 731 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,470 really was just like, "Why? Why, why, why?" 732 00:28:58,503 --> 00:29:00,338 -Right. -And, "Why do we have to live in fear? 733 00:29:00,372 --> 00:29:01,773 Why does this keep happening?" 734 00:29:01,807 --> 00:29:03,175 There are songs, like, you know, 735 00:29:03,208 --> 00:29:05,977 from-from a whole other time, 736 00:29:06,011 --> 00:29:07,512 you know, back in the day. 737 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:10,148 There're songs that Sly and the Family Stone were writing, 738 00:29:10,182 --> 00:29:12,551 Marvin Gaye and people like that were writing 739 00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:14,686 that are still relevant to today, 740 00:29:14,719 --> 00:29:16,755 and it's kind of, like, continuing that thought 741 00:29:16,788 --> 00:29:18,957 of like, "Why is this still happening?" 742 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:20,358 Um, and that pain. 743 00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:23,462 And I think the goal is always to make people hopeful 744 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:26,431 and, um, to also educate through music 745 00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:28,200 and-and let people know what's going on 746 00:29:28,233 --> 00:29:29,701 and that we have a responsibility 747 00:29:29,735 --> 00:29:31,103 to try to make a change. 748 00:29:31,136 --> 00:29:32,504 And, um, I'll never forget 749 00:29:32,537 --> 00:29:34,272 a call that I received from somebody, 750 00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:37,976 and they said that their 70-year-old Jewish father 751 00:29:38,009 --> 00:29:41,713 listened to my song and told the person that called me, 752 00:29:41,747 --> 00:29:43,248 and they were like, "Yo, have you heard this song 753 00:29:43,281 --> 00:29:45,717 by this girl? It really made me think differently." 754 00:29:45,751 --> 00:29:47,352 -Wow. -And at that moment.... 755 00:29:47,385 --> 00:29:49,020 Yeah. At that moment, I knew, 756 00:29:49,054 --> 00:29:50,789 "Oh, my gosh, this is so much bigger 757 00:29:50,822 --> 00:29:53,058 than me expressing my feelings on a page." 758 00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:56,762 Now it's-it's, uh, changing the way that people think. 759 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,530 -Right. -You know, and the way that people see things, 760 00:29:58,563 --> 00:29:59,965 and that's what music is supposed to do. 761 00:29:59,998 --> 00:30:01,566 -Mm-hmm. -So, the fact that I can do that, 762 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,836 um, you know, just off of what I feel 763 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:07,205 and the responsibility that I now feel 764 00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:09,274 to express what's going on today. 765 00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:12,644 As much as you maintain your anonymity 766 00:30:12,677 --> 00:30:13,979 and your... and your privacy, 767 00:30:14,012 --> 00:30:16,181 you also share yourself 768 00:30:16,214 --> 00:30:17,783 in one of the most vulnerable ways 769 00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:19,418 I've ever come across, you know? 770 00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:21,420 We're used to seeing artists onstage. 771 00:30:21,453 --> 00:30:23,522 We're used to seeing these big, lavish performances. 772 00:30:23,555 --> 00:30:25,223 But once the pandemic struck, 773 00:30:25,257 --> 00:30:27,926 we saw H.E.R. in a completely different way. 774 00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:30,228 You started hosting really intimate performances, 775 00:30:30,262 --> 00:30:32,130 you know, from a room in your house, 776 00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:33,732 whether it was on Instagram Live 777 00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:36,068 or whether it was, like, a Zoom performance. 778 00:30:36,101 --> 00:30:37,869 And it felt like you were sharing 779 00:30:37,903 --> 00:30:39,271 a different side of yourself. 780 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,339 It felt like you were sharing the pandemic with us 781 00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,508 and then your thoughts about what we were experiencing 782 00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:46,078 in-in real time. What inspired that? 783 00:30:46,111 --> 00:30:48,547 And were you ever worried about, like, 784 00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:51,550 almost being too vulnerable and not being, like, prepared? 785 00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:53,285 You know, a lot... a lot of people have the veneer. 786 00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:55,554 But you were just like, "No, this is me. Let's do this." 787 00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:57,222 You know, in the beginning, I was like, "Oh." 788 00:30:57,255 --> 00:30:58,857 'Cause I... One of my first times 789 00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:00,892 going on Instagram Live was in the pandemic, 790 00:31:00,926 --> 00:31:02,594 and I'm in the house with, you know, 791 00:31:02,627 --> 00:31:05,897 my hair in a messy bun and just my plain, old hoodie. 792 00:31:05,931 --> 00:31:08,567 And I had just moved, so the room was completely empty, 793 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,769 and, you know, there was all this great reverb. 794 00:31:10,802 --> 00:31:12,437 So I was like, "Let's just get into it. 795 00:31:12,471 --> 00:31:14,573 Let me just sing. Let me just sing for the people." 796 00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:17,509 But it was... It was, honestly, a way for me to stay connected 797 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,644 and keep people updated on what I'm doing, 798 00:31:19,678 --> 00:31:22,080 what I'm trying to do in-in my artistry 799 00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:23,949 and my crea... my creativity. 800 00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:25,517 But, also, boredom. 801 00:31:25,550 --> 00:31:28,153 You know, I-I really love music genuinely 802 00:31:28,186 --> 00:31:31,957 and-and wanted an opportunity to be able to still do my thing, 803 00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:34,359 and I think Instagram Live was a good place to do it. 804 00:31:34,392 --> 00:31:36,828 And I started a series called "Girls With Guitars," 805 00:31:36,862 --> 00:31:39,397 and it was like, "Now I can jam with other people on Live," 806 00:31:39,431 --> 00:31:40,665 which is even better. 807 00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:42,067 And it turned into something great. 808 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,836 So, you know, it was just something I wanted to do. 809 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:46,138 Good luck for the Grammys. 810 00:31:46,171 --> 00:31:48,006 Good luck for the rest of the journey, 811 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:50,675 because it's gonna be... it's gonna be a crazy exciting one. 812 00:31:50,709 --> 00:31:52,611 And, um, I'm excited to see where it takes you. 813 00:31:52,644 --> 00:31:55,380 Thank you so much. It was so great speaking with you. 814 00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:57,349 Take care. 815 00:31:57,382 --> 00:31:59,451 Don't forget, people. Judas and the Black Messiah 816 00:31:59,484 --> 00:32:02,120 is in theaters and streaming now on HBO Max, 817 00:32:02,154 --> 00:32:04,656 and the soundtrack featuring H.E.R.'s song 818 00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:06,858 "Fight for You" is available right now. 819 00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:08,193 Right, we're gonna take a quick break, 820 00:32:08,226 --> 00:32:08,293 but we'll be right back after this. 821 00:32:11,729 --> 00:32:13,697 Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, 822 00:32:13,731 --> 00:32:16,467 as you know, March is Women's History Month, 823 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:18,769 so please consider supporting an organization 824 00:32:18,803 --> 00:32:20,838 called She Should Run. 825 00:32:20,871 --> 00:32:22,940 It's a nonpartisan nonprofit 826 00:32:22,973 --> 00:32:24,775 working to increase the number of women 827 00:32:24,809 --> 00:32:26,811 considering a run for public office. 828 00:32:26,844 --> 00:32:28,412 Now, by supporting She Should Run, 829 00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:30,748 you are helping women from all political leanings, 830 00:32:30,781 --> 00:32:33,150 ethnicities, sexual identities and backgrounds 831 00:32:33,184 --> 00:32:35,286 to see themselves as future candidates. 832 00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:36,654 If you're able to, 833 00:32:36,687 --> 00:32:38,989 go to the link below and donate whatever you can. 834 00:32:39,023 --> 00:32:41,592 Until tomorrow, stay safe out there, 835 00:32:41,625 --> 00:32:43,761 wear a mask, and remember: 836 00:32:43,794 --> 00:32:45,896 if you're attending a wedding, 837 00:32:45,930 --> 00:32:48,599 the salad fork is on your left 838 00:32:48,632 --> 00:32:52,336 and Governor Cuomo is groping you on your right. 839 00:32:52,369 --> 00:32:55,740 Now, here it is, Your Moment of Zen. 840 00:32:55,773 --> 00:32:57,775 ? ? 841 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:01,946 I'm fired up about this. I don't know if you are, 842 00:33:01,979 --> 00:33:04,215 but my guess is if you had a childhood 843 00:33:04,248 --> 00:33:05,983 and you read Dr. Seuss, you might be. 844 00:33:06,016 --> 00:33:08,419 So, you're telling me that the actual priorities 845 00:33:08,452 --> 00:33:10,588 of the Democrats is renaming a post office 846 00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:12,590 and now canceling Dr. Seuss? 847 00:33:12,623 --> 00:33:14,759 NEWSMAN: One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish 848 00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:16,761 is not as concerning as, let's say, 849 00:33:16,794 --> 00:33:18,462 oh, I don't know, China. 850 00:33:18,496 --> 00:33:20,431 -Or anything else. -Oh, you are absolutely right. 851 00:33:20,464 --> 00:33:23,634 I mean, we-we... we are actually losing a battle 852 00:33:23,667 --> 00:33:25,569 that's not even started yet against China. 853 00:33:25,603 --> 00:33:27,571 This is a threat that we should be worrying about, 854 00:33:27,605 --> 00:33:30,207 'cause this is a threat that actually harms American lives, 855 00:33:30,241 --> 00:33:32,243 not if Dr. Seuss is racist. 856 00:33:32,276 --> 00:33:32,343 I-I actually laugh trying to think about that.