1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:01,768 [theme music] 2 00:00:01,869 --> 00:00:04,538 ANNOUNCER: From New York City, the only city in America, 3 00:00:04,638 --> 00:00:07,207 it's the show that invented news. 4 00:00:07,307 --> 00:00:11,945 This is The Daily Show with your host, Jordan Klepper. 5 00:00:12,045 --> 00:00:19,052 [cheering] 6 00:00:31,098 --> 00:00:32,366 Welcome to The Daily Show. 7 00:00:32,466 --> 00:00:36,537 I'm Jordan Klepper, and this is pretty exciting, everyone. 8 00:00:36,637 --> 00:00:37,704 This is the first time the show has 9 00:00:37,804 --> 00:00:40,140 let me sit down in five years. 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,675 [laughter] 11 00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:43,343 We've got a great show for you tonight, including 12 00:00:43,443 --> 00:00:45,012 an interview with AOC. 13 00:00:45,112 --> 00:00:46,013 But-- 14 00:00:46,113 --> 00:00:48,882 [cheering] 15 00:00:48,982 --> 00:00:50,584 Sure. 16 00:00:50,684 --> 00:00:52,152 But there's a lot to talk about. 17 00:00:52,252 --> 00:00:53,954 So let's get into the headlines. 18 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:58,358 [cheering] 19 00:00:58,458 --> 00:01:03,463 It's a day in America, so we're talking about guns. 20 00:01:03,564 --> 00:01:06,066 This weekend was the national NRA convention, also 21 00:01:06,166 --> 00:01:10,737 known as cargo pants Comic-Con or the Westminster 22 00:01:10,838 --> 00:01:12,472 Stepdad Show. 23 00:01:12,573 --> 00:01:14,875 Now, people like to stereotype NRA 24 00:01:14,975 --> 00:01:17,077 members as gun-obsessed whack jobs 25 00:01:17,177 --> 00:01:18,612 who want to arm little babies. 26 00:01:18,712 --> 00:01:24,084 And the thing about stereotypes is sometimes they're spot on. 27 00:01:24,117 --> 00:01:26,453 I've got three kids, two son-in-laws. 28 00:01:26,553 --> 00:01:28,755 And did you know that I'm also a grandmother 29 00:01:28,856 --> 00:01:30,757 not just once, but twice? 30 00:01:30,858 --> 00:01:32,993 Have two beautiful grandchildren. 31 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:35,395 Little Miss Addie, who is almost two, 32 00:01:35,495 --> 00:01:37,397 and Branch, who's just a few months old. 33 00:01:37,497 --> 00:01:42,102 Now, Addie, who soon will need them, I want to reassure you, 34 00:01:42,135 --> 00:01:46,640 she already has a shotgun, and she already has a rifle. 35 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:49,009 And she's got a little pony named Sparkles too. 36 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:51,111 So the girl is set up. 37 00:01:51,211 --> 00:01:53,013 Wow. 38 00:01:53,113 --> 00:01:54,615 That's the governor of South Dakota 39 00:01:54,715 --> 00:01:57,851 bragging about her two-year-old granddaughter owning guns. 40 00:01:57,951 --> 00:01:59,186 Bold. 41 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:01,622 When my kid was little, I was covering outlets, locking 42 00:02:01,722 --> 00:02:03,056 cabinets, and cutting grapes in half 43 00:02:03,156 --> 00:02:06,393 because they might be a choking hazard. 44 00:02:06,493 --> 00:02:08,462 Kristi Noem is like, here's a shotgun. 45 00:02:08,562 --> 00:02:09,663 You're on watch tonight. 46 00:02:09,763 --> 00:02:11,064 Sic semper tyrannis. 47 00:02:11,098 --> 00:02:13,066 [laughter] 48 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:15,702 Look, I know liberals and conservatives 49 00:02:15,802 --> 00:02:17,237 don't agree on much. 50 00:02:17,337 --> 00:02:18,805 But can we agree that you should 51 00:02:18,906 --> 00:02:21,675 not own a gun if you don't know how to poop in a potty? 52 00:02:21,775 --> 00:02:24,545 [laughter] 53 00:02:24,645 --> 00:02:27,881 [cheering] 54 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:30,984 Although-- although it is adorable that she 55 00:02:31,084 --> 00:02:33,520 has a pony named Sparkles. 56 00:02:33,620 --> 00:02:35,355 In fact, if you'll excuse me for a second, 57 00:02:35,455 --> 00:02:41,495 I need to address Sparkles directly. 58 00:02:41,595 --> 00:02:44,264 Sparkles, this will not end well for you. 59 00:02:44,364 --> 00:02:45,732 [laughter] 60 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:48,569 These people are clearly insane. 61 00:02:48,669 --> 00:02:49,903 Run while you still can. 62 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:51,104 There is no time for goodbyes. Go! 63 00:02:51,138 --> 00:02:52,105 Go, my friend. 64 00:02:52,139 --> 00:02:54,341 Go. 65 00:02:54,441 --> 00:02:57,211 [cheering] 66 00:02:57,311 --> 00:03:00,881 Look, look, look, to be clear-- to be clear, 67 00:03:01,048 --> 00:03:02,749 I'm not bringing up Kristi Noem just 68 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:04,051 to make fun of her grandkids. 69 00:03:04,084 --> 00:03:05,052 I would never do that. 70 00:03:05,085 --> 00:03:06,053 They've got guns. 71 00:03:06,153 --> 00:03:07,187 [laughter] 72 00:03:07,287 --> 00:03:09,823 I'm bringing up Kristi Noem because she gave us 73 00:03:09,923 --> 00:03:13,293 a great insight into what creates the worldview 74 00:03:13,393 --> 00:03:14,795 of an NRA member. 75 00:03:14,895 --> 00:03:17,130 My dad taught us life lessons. 76 00:03:17,231 --> 00:03:18,665 He taught us common sense. 77 00:03:18,765 --> 00:03:21,768 And often those were taught during our hunting trips. 78 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:25,138 For instance, I remember being only about 9 or 10 years old. 79 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:28,342 And we had hunted all day miles and miles from camp 80 00:03:28,442 --> 00:03:30,544 in the high country in the Bighorn Mountains 81 00:03:30,644 --> 00:03:33,747 when my dad turned to me, and he said, Kristi, 82 00:03:33,847 --> 00:03:35,215 hunt your way back to camp. 83 00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:36,583 I'm going to go around this ridge, 84 00:03:36,683 --> 00:03:38,085 and I'll meet you there at dark. 85 00:03:38,118 --> 00:03:40,854 And he disappeared over the ridge. 86 00:03:40,954 --> 00:03:44,758 Now, to a 10-year-old girl, this was terrifying. 87 00:03:44,858 --> 00:03:48,362 And as strange noises came and darkness fell, 88 00:03:48,462 --> 00:03:51,331 I had to rely on my instincts and my horse 89 00:03:51,431 --> 00:03:53,800 to find my way back to our tent. 90 00:03:53,901 --> 00:03:55,736 Now, years later, Mom shared with me 91 00:03:55,836 --> 00:03:58,305 that my dad had followed me at a safe distance 92 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:00,874 all the way back to camp to make 93 00:04:01,041 --> 00:04:02,042 sure that I got there safe. 94 00:04:02,142 --> 00:04:04,778 Now, before you get all warm and fuzzy on him, 95 00:04:04,878 --> 00:04:06,513 I also want to tell you that he made 96 00:04:06,613 --> 00:04:09,917 bear noises the whole time he was following me. 97 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:15,489 [laughs] Scratching trees and growling at me, so, you know? 98 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:22,362 [laughs] What an adorable story about alcoholism. 99 00:04:23,363 --> 00:04:25,666 Excuse me one second. 100 00:04:25,766 --> 00:04:27,501 [laughter] 101 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:29,937 Seriously, Sparkles, this family is [bleep] nuts. 102 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:30,938 Get out of there. 103 00:04:31,071 --> 00:04:32,372 Trust no one. 104 00:04:32,472 --> 00:04:34,775 Sic semper tyrannis. 105 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:35,776 OK, but-- 106 00:04:35,876 --> 00:04:38,445 [cheering] 107 00:04:38,545 --> 00:04:41,515 --the real purpose of an NRA convention 108 00:04:41,615 --> 00:04:43,317 isn't to tell fun family stories 109 00:04:43,417 --> 00:04:44,718 of childhood abandonment. 110 00:04:44,818 --> 00:04:48,155 No, it's to explain why all the gun violence of the last year 111 00:04:48,255 --> 00:04:50,591 had nothing to do with guns. 112 00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:53,694 In the past, they blamed video games, rap music, 113 00:04:53,794 --> 00:04:57,831 and for a brief period in the '90s, the Rachel. 114 00:04:57,931 --> 00:04:59,366 It could be anything. 115 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:00,634 Well, not anything. 116 00:05:00,734 --> 00:05:03,504 It can't be guns, but anything else. 117 00:05:03,604 --> 00:05:05,806 And this year was no different. 118 00:05:05,906 --> 00:05:07,875 You want to do something-- you can ban social 119 00:05:08,041 --> 00:05:11,044 media in kids under the age of 15 or 16 120 00:05:11,078 --> 00:05:12,679 before you take guns away. 121 00:05:12,779 --> 00:05:15,048 This is a mental health problem. 122 00:05:15,115 --> 00:05:16,483 It's undiagnosed mental health. 123 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:18,552 The motivations of the trans activists. 124 00:05:18,652 --> 00:05:20,220 This is a cultural problem. 125 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,388 Bring back the family. 126 00:05:21,488 --> 00:05:24,057 This is a spiritual problem. 127 00:05:24,124 --> 00:05:25,292 The American media. 128 00:05:25,392 --> 00:05:28,362 Genetically-engineered cannabis. 129 00:05:28,462 --> 00:05:31,431 [laughter] 130 00:05:31,532 --> 00:05:33,100 Weed, really? 131 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,968 When I get high, the only thing I want to massacre 132 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:37,271 is a bag of Funyuns. 133 00:05:37,371 --> 00:05:40,073 If you're blaming gun violence on weed, 134 00:05:40,107 --> 00:05:41,708 you're not even trying anymore. 135 00:05:41,808 --> 00:05:43,544 These people are just name checking things they 136 00:05:43,644 --> 00:05:45,779 don't understand on the news. 137 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:46,780 It's weed! 138 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,382 It's ChatGPT! 139 00:05:48,482 --> 00:05:50,651 It's Love Is Blind crashing Netflix. 140 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:51,652 Is that a thing? 141 00:05:51,752 --> 00:05:52,819 Is that a thing? 142 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,087 Is it a thing? 143 00:05:54,188 --> 00:05:56,423 [applause] 144 00:05:56,523 --> 00:06:00,160 And this isn't just the NRA deflecting. 145 00:06:00,260 --> 00:06:03,263 They're stoking these fears, fears of rampant crime, 146 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:07,201 trans people, wokeness, mutant doobies. 147 00:06:07,301 --> 00:06:08,936 It's all coming to get you. 148 00:06:09,036 --> 00:06:10,504 And you know what happens when you combine 149 00:06:10,604 --> 00:06:13,040 a culture of fear and guns? 150 00:06:13,106 --> 00:06:15,809 You get the story that just came out of Kansas City, where 151 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:17,477 a kid trying to pick up his siblings 152 00:06:17,578 --> 00:06:19,513 knocked on the wrong door and got shot 153 00:06:19,613 --> 00:06:21,915 and wounded by the homeowner. 154 00:06:22,049 --> 00:06:24,818 That kid wasn't shot by weed or social media. 155 00:06:24,918 --> 00:06:28,088 He was shot by a scared person with a gun. 156 00:06:28,188 --> 00:06:30,390 And this is the climate the NRA's stoking. 157 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:33,327 They're the irresponsible loudmouth hiding in the woods, 158 00:06:33,427 --> 00:06:36,163 making bear noises, scratching on trees so 159 00:06:36,263 --> 00:06:39,066 that you feel scared enough to go and get yourself 160 00:06:39,166 --> 00:06:40,167 a [bleep] gun. 161 00:06:40,267 --> 00:06:41,168 But-- 162 00:06:41,268 --> 00:06:43,637 [applause] 163 00:06:43,737 --> 00:06:45,606 --you know what? 164 00:06:45,706 --> 00:06:46,940 It's my first night. 165 00:06:47,074 --> 00:06:48,442 Enough about gun violence. 166 00:06:48,542 --> 00:06:50,777 Let's move on to something more lighthearted, 167 00:06:50,878 --> 00:06:52,946 the corrosive rod of our judicial branch. 168 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,515 [laughter] 169 00:06:54,615 --> 00:06:56,917 Of course, I'm talking about Clarence Thomas, 170 00:06:57,084 --> 00:06:58,352 the Supreme Court justice. 171 00:06:58,452 --> 00:06:59,486 [booing] 172 00:06:59,586 --> 00:07:02,356 Yeah, big fans, I can tell. 173 00:07:02,456 --> 00:07:03,323 You now him. 174 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:04,691 He's the Supreme Court justice who's 175 00:07:04,791 --> 00:07:06,460 taken more free vacations than all 176 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,095 the Bravo Housewives combined. 177 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:10,030 [laughter] 178 00:07:10,097 --> 00:07:12,032 Last week, we learned that Thomas had secretly 179 00:07:12,132 --> 00:07:14,268 accepted luxury trips from right-wing billionaire 180 00:07:14,368 --> 00:07:15,536 Harlan Crow. 181 00:07:15,636 --> 00:07:18,038 And that's his actual name, not his Game 182 00:07:18,071 --> 00:07:19,273 of Thrones cosplay character. 183 00:07:19,373 --> 00:07:20,741 [laughter] 184 00:07:20,841 --> 00:07:24,344 And now we're finding out that back in 2014, Harlan Crow 185 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:27,781 bought a house in two vacant lots 186 00:07:27,881 --> 00:07:32,586 from Clarence Thomas for $130,000, which is outrageous. 187 00:07:32,686 --> 00:07:35,088 I'm shocked that in America-- in my America-- 188 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:37,524 there are still places where you can buy a house and two 189 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:39,226 vacant lots for $130,000. 190 00:07:39,326 --> 00:07:41,328 [laughter] 191 00:07:41,428 --> 00:07:43,497 I'm mad about the corruption, but I have to admit, 192 00:07:43,597 --> 00:07:46,066 that's a [bleep] steal. 193 00:07:46,166 --> 00:07:49,169 On top of that, Clarence Thomas's mom is still living 194 00:07:49,269 --> 00:07:50,871 in that house rent free. 195 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:53,373 And Harlan Crow has paid for thousands of dollars 196 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:55,843 of renovations, all of which Clarence Thomas 197 00:07:55,943 --> 00:07:57,711 should have disclosed by law. 198 00:07:57,811 --> 00:08:01,481 Although, in his defense, the law is complicated, 199 00:08:01,582 --> 00:08:04,084 and he's only a Supreme Court justice. 200 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:06,553 [laughter] 201 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:09,556 [applause] 202 00:08:09,656 --> 00:08:12,025 For more of the legal nuances of this story, 203 00:08:12,125 --> 00:08:14,228 we turn to Supreme Court expert Ronny Chieng. 204 00:08:14,328 --> 00:08:15,229 Ronny. 205 00:08:15,329 --> 00:08:18,165 [cheering] 206 00:08:18,265 --> 00:08:21,568 Hey, Ronny. 207 00:08:21,668 --> 00:08:23,337 Ronny, where are you right now? 208 00:08:23,437 --> 00:08:24,338 Where am I? 209 00:08:24,438 --> 00:08:25,372 Where do you think I am? 210 00:08:25,472 --> 00:08:28,842 I'm at Clarence Thomas's mom's house. 211 00:08:28,942 --> 00:08:29,910 That's the house? 212 00:08:30,043 --> 00:08:32,312 Oh, technically, this is the pool house. 213 00:08:32,412 --> 00:08:33,680 I mean, they built it to last week. 214 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:36,083 But, obviously, they're going to do a gut reno because, I 215 00:08:36,183 --> 00:08:38,418 mean, it looks like shit. 216 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:39,453 That's insane, Ronny. 217 00:08:39,553 --> 00:08:41,221 These revelations about money flowing 218 00:08:41,321 --> 00:08:43,290 to a Supreme Court justice are-- frankly, 219 00:08:43,390 --> 00:08:44,825 they're shocking. 220 00:08:44,925 --> 00:08:45,826 Oh, really, Jordan? 221 00:08:45,926 --> 00:08:47,194 You're shocked? 222 00:08:47,294 --> 00:08:48,662 Are you shocked? 223 00:08:48,762 --> 00:08:52,633 Have you been-- have your precious norms been violated? 224 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:54,635 Oh, no, somebody help. 225 00:08:54,735 --> 00:08:56,570 Justice Thomas and Harlan Crow bent 226 00:08:56,670 --> 00:08:59,573 over and double teamed Jordan Klepper's innocent principles. 227 00:08:59,673 --> 00:09:01,008 Ronny, stop it. 228 00:09:01,074 --> 00:09:03,010 Stop it. 229 00:09:03,076 --> 00:09:04,144 Stop it. 230 00:09:04,244 --> 00:09:05,679 I'm a professional news person. 231 00:09:05,779 --> 00:09:07,014 I don't have principles. 232 00:09:07,114 --> 00:09:08,549 [laughter] 233 00:09:08,649 --> 00:09:10,851 You know what's really shocking here 234 00:09:11,018 --> 00:09:13,420 is this billionaire is wasting so much money buying 235 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,389 Clarence Thomas flights and houses 236 00:09:15,489 --> 00:09:17,024 and shit to vote conservative. 237 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:18,692 Hey, news flash, billionaire. 238 00:09:18,792 --> 00:09:21,595 Clarence Thomas is already conservative. 239 00:09:21,695 --> 00:09:22,729 All right? 240 00:09:22,829 --> 00:09:25,232 It's like bribing Nick Cannon to hit it raw. 241 00:09:25,332 --> 00:09:28,101 [laughter] 242 00:09:28,202 --> 00:09:31,305 He was going to do that anyway. 243 00:09:31,405 --> 00:09:33,173 Save your money. 244 00:09:33,273 --> 00:09:36,276 Jordan, you know who I do blame for this? 245 00:09:36,376 --> 00:09:37,778 Harlan Crow's parents for giving 246 00:09:37,878 --> 00:09:39,847 him an evil villain name? 247 00:09:39,947 --> 00:09:41,048 Yes, but no. 248 00:09:41,081 --> 00:09:42,249 Sure. 249 00:09:42,349 --> 00:09:46,053 I blame these dumbass, whiny, teacher's pet liberals. 250 00:09:46,119 --> 00:09:48,722 Hey, if Clarence Thomas can be bought, then 251 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:50,390 why aren't you buying him? 252 00:09:50,490 --> 00:09:51,391 Huh? 253 00:09:51,491 --> 00:09:53,093 Instead, you give Beto O'Rourke, 254 00:09:53,193 --> 00:09:55,495 like, a billion dollars to come in third in a student 255 00:09:55,596 --> 00:09:57,164 council election, right? 256 00:09:57,264 --> 00:09:59,533 Why don't you take that money and build 257 00:09:59,633 --> 00:10:03,036 Clarence Thomas's mom a new garage, a yoga room, 258 00:10:03,136 --> 00:10:04,805 and a helipool? 259 00:10:04,905 --> 00:10:06,273 I think you mean a helipad. 260 00:10:06,373 --> 00:10:08,442 No, I said helipool, OK? 261 00:10:08,542 --> 00:10:10,310 It's a pool for helicopters so you 262 00:10:10,410 --> 00:10:12,012 can land straight in the water and stop 263 00:10:12,112 --> 00:10:13,447 walking there like a peasant. 264 00:10:13,547 --> 00:10:14,748 [laughter] 265 00:10:14,848 --> 00:10:17,751 Maybe abortion would still be legal 266 00:10:17,851 --> 00:10:19,753 if liberals bought a pool for Clarence 267 00:10:19,853 --> 00:10:21,755 Thomas's mom's helicopter, OK? 268 00:10:21,855 --> 00:10:22,756 Is that so crazy? 269 00:10:22,856 --> 00:10:23,757 Yes. 270 00:10:23,857 --> 00:10:24,892 Yes, it is crazy, Ronny. 271 00:10:24,992 --> 00:10:27,494 You don't fix corruption with more corruption. 272 00:10:27,594 --> 00:10:29,730 What is the message you're sending when you let money 273 00:10:29,830 --> 00:10:31,765 influence decision making? 274 00:10:31,865 --> 00:10:34,568 Jordan, I will give you a thousand dollars if you 275 00:10:34,668 --> 00:10:35,736 agree with me right now. 276 00:10:35,836 --> 00:10:36,737 No. 277 00:10:36,837 --> 00:10:38,305 I would never betray my integrity 278 00:10:38,405 --> 00:10:39,840 for a thousand dollars. 279 00:10:39,940 --> 00:10:40,841 Maybe five. 280 00:10:40,941 --> 00:10:42,109 - OK, how about three? - Three? 281 00:10:42,209 --> 00:10:43,143 Deal. 282 00:10:43,243 --> 00:10:45,379 Yeah, Ronny Chieng is right, everyone. 283 00:10:45,479 --> 00:10:47,948 All right, when we come back, my interview 284 00:10:48,048 --> 00:10:50,951 with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so don't go away. 285 00:10:51,051 --> 00:10:54,388 [cheering] 286 00:11:01,894 --> 00:11:08,334 [cheering] 287 00:11:09,335 --> 00:11:10,236 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 288 00:11:10,336 --> 00:11:12,171 There's a lot of depressing news 289 00:11:12,271 --> 00:11:13,606 about gun violence in America. 290 00:11:13,706 --> 00:11:15,341 But the good news is that there are 291 00:11:15,441 --> 00:11:16,943 people working on solutions. 292 00:11:17,043 --> 00:11:19,278 I met up with New York Congresswoman Alexandria 293 00:11:19,378 --> 00:11:22,081 Ocasio-Cortez to talk about one possible solution 294 00:11:22,181 --> 00:11:23,582 right here in New York City. 295 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:25,451 JORDAN KLEPPER (VOICEOVER): I met with the congresswoman 296 00:11:25,551 --> 00:11:28,421 at Jacobi Hospital in the Bronx to discuss its Stand Up 297 00:11:28,521 --> 00:11:30,189 to Violence program, which has shown 298 00:11:30,289 --> 00:11:33,592 an impressive 46% reduction in retaliatory violence 299 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:35,394 in its first few years. 300 00:11:35,494 --> 00:11:37,296 As a Democrat focused on violence, 301 00:11:37,396 --> 00:11:38,431 isn't that off brand? 302 00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:39,432 Well, I'm from the Bronx. 303 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:41,601 So it's on brand for where I'm from. 304 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:42,668 [laughs] 305 00:11:42,768 --> 00:11:45,871 There is a lot of discussion around what 306 00:11:45,972 --> 00:11:48,307 progressives can do about violence in a big city. 307 00:11:48,407 --> 00:11:50,776 What the data has showed us is that if you respond 308 00:11:50,876 --> 00:11:52,778 to violence as a public health issue 309 00:11:52,878 --> 00:11:56,315 instead of as an incarceration issue, violence decreases. 310 00:11:56,415 --> 00:11:58,551 And that's what we're doing here at Jacobi Hospital. 311 00:11:58,651 --> 00:12:00,620 Are there cops here at the hospital 312 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,621 that are addressing the issue? 313 00:12:01,721 --> 00:12:02,622 Hell no. 314 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:03,656 [laughs] 315 00:12:03,756 --> 00:12:04,757 OK. 316 00:12:04,857 --> 00:12:07,493 No, this is-- listen, and there's security 317 00:12:07,593 --> 00:12:08,995 presence and police presence that 318 00:12:09,095 --> 00:12:10,096 is standard in any hospital. 319 00:12:10,196 --> 00:12:11,797 But that's not what this program is about. 320 00:12:11,897 --> 00:12:14,033 In the traditional response to an incidence 321 00:12:14,133 --> 00:12:16,502 of violence, a shooting or a stabbing, 322 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:17,870 you may go to the ER real quick. 323 00:12:17,970 --> 00:12:18,938 You get patched up, and then you 324 00:12:19,038 --> 00:12:20,139 go straight to the precinct. 325 00:12:20,239 --> 00:12:22,541 What we decided to do is that we said, 326 00:12:22,642 --> 00:12:24,710 hey, let's shift the response and see 327 00:12:24,810 --> 00:12:27,647 what happens when we make the center of response 328 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:30,349 a hospital instead of a jail. 329 00:12:30,516 --> 00:12:32,285 JORDAN KLEPPER (VOICEOVER): When a patient comes to the ER 330 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:33,953 with a gunshot wound, the Stand Up 331 00:12:34,053 --> 00:12:35,721 to Violence team works with the victim 332 00:12:35,821 --> 00:12:38,958 and members of the community to prevent violent retaliation. 333 00:12:39,058 --> 00:12:41,360 You're essentially talking about preventative medicine 334 00:12:41,527 --> 00:12:42,695 here. - It is. 335 00:12:42,795 --> 00:12:43,930 It absolutely is. 336 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:44,797 Which in America, it's not exactly our thing if you 337 00:12:44,897 --> 00:12:45,798 look at our health care. 338 00:12:45,898 --> 00:12:46,799 We're not known for that, right? 339 00:12:46,899 --> 00:12:47,867 We're not known for that. 340 00:12:47,967 --> 00:12:50,603 We're more of a reactive medicine society. 341 00:12:50,703 --> 00:12:53,306 And, you know, we have caseworkers. 342 00:12:53,406 --> 00:12:54,373 We have social workers. 343 00:12:54,540 --> 00:12:55,541 We have therapists. 344 00:12:55,574 --> 00:12:58,444 And we also have people who themselves 345 00:12:58,544 --> 00:12:59,679 were once incarcerated. 346 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:02,381 Some of our most effective people in this work 347 00:13:02,481 --> 00:13:05,184 are the former gang members, people who 348 00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:07,119 formerly spent time at Rikers. 349 00:13:07,219 --> 00:13:08,955 I can hear how Fox News would spin 350 00:13:09,055 --> 00:13:14,026 this as AOC tries to defund the police and fund gang members. 351 00:13:14,126 --> 00:13:17,263 If I spent my time worried about Fox News said, I would-- 352 00:13:17,363 --> 00:13:18,998 I mean, I wouldn't be here. 353 00:13:19,098 --> 00:13:20,833 We're here in New York City. 354 00:13:20,933 --> 00:13:24,904 And you're talking about funding violence prevention 355 00:13:25,004 --> 00:13:27,173 outside of the police. 356 00:13:27,273 --> 00:13:31,410 And yet Eric Adams has just increased police wages by 28%. 357 00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:32,511 Is that misplaced? 358 00:13:32,612 --> 00:13:33,846 I think so. 359 00:13:33,946 --> 00:13:37,950 We are now at a point where officially most officers are 360 00:13:38,050 --> 00:13:41,988 paid more than a teacher with a master's degree, 361 00:13:42,088 --> 00:13:44,256 serving these same kids involved 362 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:45,524 in these same incidents. 363 00:13:45,625 --> 00:13:50,363 We are defunding safety, defunding our public schools, 364 00:13:50,529 --> 00:13:55,067 defunding our public pools, defunding our parks, 365 00:13:55,167 --> 00:13:57,069 defunding our libraries. 366 00:13:57,169 --> 00:14:00,306 When we are taking all of those resources 367 00:14:00,406 --> 00:14:03,142 and demanding that every single department 368 00:14:03,242 --> 00:14:06,212 except the militarized one be cut, 369 00:14:06,312 --> 00:14:10,249 we are sending a message about who and what we care about. 370 00:14:10,349 --> 00:14:13,052 Here in a hospital, do you ever get the vibes? 371 00:14:13,152 --> 00:14:15,821 Do you ever consider a career in the medical profession? 372 00:14:15,921 --> 00:14:17,323 It's funny you ask that. 373 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:20,493 When I went to college, I went in as a premedical student. 374 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:21,494 Really? 375 00:14:21,527 --> 00:14:24,931 I wanted to be an OB/GYN, actually. 376 00:14:25,031 --> 00:14:28,401 But, you know, life takes us where it takes us. 377 00:14:28,501 --> 00:14:30,569 I considered going into the medical profession. 378 00:14:30,670 --> 00:14:33,272 I thought I could play a handsome doctor on TV. 379 00:14:33,372 --> 00:14:34,607 [laughter] Didn't pan out. 380 00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:36,375 JORDAN KLEPPER (VOICEOVER): While we were on the subject 381 00:14:36,509 --> 00:14:38,110 of national embarrassment, I had 382 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:40,112 to ask the congresswoman about Clarence Thomas 383 00:14:40,212 --> 00:14:42,848 and his BFF, Nazi swag collector Harlan Crow. 384 00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:44,283 JORDAN KLEPPER: I want to talk a little bit 385 00:14:44,383 --> 00:14:45,851 about Clarence Thomas. 386 00:14:45,952 --> 00:14:50,056 You've said you would even draft articles of impeachment 387 00:14:50,156 --> 00:14:51,590 for the things that he's done. 388 00:14:51,691 --> 00:14:52,591 Yeah. 389 00:14:52,692 --> 00:14:54,160 Has there been any quid pro quo? 390 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:55,561 And I said quid pro quo partially 391 00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:57,530 because it took all that effort to learn 392 00:14:57,630 --> 00:14:59,999 what quid pro quo meant back in the Ukraine days. 393 00:15:00,099 --> 00:15:02,468 And it feels apropos of now. 394 00:15:02,568 --> 00:15:04,203 And I don't think I used apropos correctly. 395 00:15:04,303 --> 00:15:07,940 I think that quid pro quo is this bar that 396 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,609 doesn't even need to be met. 397 00:15:09,709 --> 00:15:12,011 The justice is required by law to disclose something 398 00:15:12,111 --> 00:15:13,980 like that, and he hasn't been. 399 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,147 Can you empathize though? 400 00:15:15,247 --> 00:15:17,550 Beyoncé came through here and wanted to take you 401 00:15:17,650 --> 00:15:20,553 on a sweet vacation, wouldn't you say yes and let her 402 00:15:20,653 --> 00:15:21,887 show you her Nazi memorabilia? 403 00:15:21,988 --> 00:15:23,189 You gotta tell someone about it. 404 00:15:23,289 --> 00:15:26,492 But, hey-- hey, don't put Bey's name on that like that. 405 00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:27,760 I'm not saying she has Na-- 406 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:30,329 I'm saying if she invested in Nazi memorabilia 407 00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:32,498 to show that she hates Nazi memorabilia, 408 00:15:32,531 --> 00:15:33,599 she'd want to show it off. 409 00:15:33,699 --> 00:15:37,670 And that whole thing is just, I mean, bizarre. 410 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:39,805 You also don't keep the linens around. 411 00:15:39,905 --> 00:15:41,307 Which linens? Oh, the Nazi linens? 412 00:15:41,407 --> 00:15:42,308 Yeah. 413 00:15:42,408 --> 00:15:43,509 Who does that? 414 00:15:43,542 --> 00:15:45,244 Don't you think if you had a billion dollars, 415 00:15:45,344 --> 00:15:47,513 and you bought everything, you'd probably 416 00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:49,148 eventually get to Nazi linens? 417 00:15:49,248 --> 00:15:52,151 This is the distraction of that whole issue. 418 00:15:52,251 --> 00:15:53,152 You're right. 419 00:15:53,252 --> 00:15:54,820 We're just focused on that as opposed 420 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,656 to all the money that's going over to Clarence Thomas. 421 00:15:56,756 --> 00:15:57,790 Although, if you're a billionaire, 422 00:15:57,890 --> 00:15:59,025 can't billionaires have friends? 423 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:00,026 They can. 424 00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:01,627 Supreme Court justices are required, 425 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:04,463 if they are receiving money from people-- 426 00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:06,632 they shouldn't even be receiving money from people. 427 00:16:06,732 --> 00:16:09,468 This is why we pay salaries to public servants. 428 00:16:09,568 --> 00:16:12,071 And if they want to live that kind of lifestyle, 429 00:16:12,171 --> 00:16:13,806 then they can resign from the court. 430 00:16:13,906 --> 00:16:14,807 They can retire. 431 00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:16,542 Now I want to talk about the court. 432 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:18,477 It's looking as if the Supreme Court is going 433 00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:20,346 to rule on some of the conflicting 434 00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:22,214 rulings around mifepristone. 435 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:24,684 Who do you think is going to write 436 00:16:24,784 --> 00:16:26,786 the final decision that takes away 437 00:16:26,886 --> 00:16:28,054 these vital rights from women? 438 00:16:28,154 --> 00:16:30,389 Is it going to be the guy who cried over beer, 439 00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:33,392 or is it going to be the buddy with the Nazi memorabilia guy? 440 00:16:33,492 --> 00:16:40,499 You know, my hope is that we do not get to that point. 441 00:16:41,734 --> 00:16:45,605 But we also have to face the reality that the Supreme 442 00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:50,376 Court has chosen to give up huge swaths 443 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:51,644 of their own legitimacy. 444 00:16:51,744 --> 00:16:54,413 Chief Justice Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, 445 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:59,251 the Republican Party, in them giving up, trying 446 00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:03,055 to take seriously the legitimacy, 447 00:17:03,155 --> 00:17:05,224 the standards, the integrity of the court, 448 00:17:05,324 --> 00:17:09,462 they have given up a very large degree of their authority. 449 00:17:09,495 --> 00:17:10,863 The new news in Florida this week 450 00:17:10,963 --> 00:17:13,866 is the six-week abortion ban. 451 00:17:13,966 --> 00:17:16,102 How do women approach that or fight 452 00:17:16,202 --> 00:17:17,470 back against something like that 453 00:17:17,536 --> 00:17:18,604 that's happening in Florida? 454 00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:20,673 Of course, there's the standard 455 00:17:20,773 --> 00:17:23,609 like vote and mobilize. 456 00:17:23,709 --> 00:17:26,078 But I'm going to put that aside for a second. 457 00:17:26,178 --> 00:17:30,182 We do not have to accept tyranny. 458 00:17:30,283 --> 00:17:34,253 And this is a form of tyranny. 459 00:17:34,353 --> 00:17:37,089 It is a form of violence. 460 00:17:37,189 --> 00:17:38,391 Women will die. 461 00:17:38,491 --> 00:17:42,295 People will die because of this decision. 462 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:45,031 And it will be by and large the men who 463 00:17:45,131 --> 00:17:47,500 signed these laws that are killing the women that 464 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,701 will die by them. 465 00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:52,104 And we have a responsibility to help one another, 466 00:17:52,204 --> 00:17:56,342 whether that is supporting organizations that mail 467 00:17:56,509 --> 00:17:59,312 mifepristone, which has significantly 468 00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:02,882 reduced risk, certainly safer than medications like Viagra. 469 00:18:02,982 --> 00:18:07,987 But, ultimately, we cannot continue 470 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:13,292 to accept people in power who will abuse 471 00:18:13,459 --> 00:18:15,061 others for their own gain. 472 00:18:15,161 --> 00:18:17,163 Indictment week was last week. 473 00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:19,165 It might also be a month from now too. 474 00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:21,534 We could have a lot of indictment weeks. 475 00:18:21,634 --> 00:18:24,070 How do you think New Yorkers treated 476 00:18:24,170 --> 00:18:25,771 former President Donald Trump? 477 00:18:25,871 --> 00:18:31,344 I think they treated him like a Florida man. 478 00:18:31,477 --> 00:18:33,012 He don't belong to us no more, OK? 479 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:36,015 [laughs] He's not from Queens anymore. 480 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,150 He's a citizen of Mar-a-Lago at this point. 481 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:40,086 And you said New Yorkers treated him as such. 482 00:18:40,186 --> 00:18:41,087 Yeah. 483 00:18:41,187 --> 00:18:42,121 Why wouldn't we? 484 00:18:42,221 --> 00:18:43,789 Do you think people were weeping when 485 00:18:43,889 --> 00:18:46,659 he was booked, as he claims? 486 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:49,328 Maybe George Santos and Marjorie Taylor 487 00:18:49,495 --> 00:18:51,230 Greene were, but not me. 488 00:18:51,330 --> 00:18:52,498 Kick it back to LaGuardia, baby. 489 00:18:52,531 --> 00:18:53,833 JORDAN KLEPPER: Kick it back to LaGuardia? 490 00:18:53,933 --> 00:18:55,401 [laughter] 491 00:18:55,501 --> 00:18:56,669 Which is in your district? 492 00:18:56,769 --> 00:18:57,870 ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ: Yes, it's in my district, 493 00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:59,071 and so is Rikers. 494 00:18:59,171 --> 00:19:01,707 And so I have to go in every single day 495 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:07,013 watching people get treated far worse for doing far less. 496 00:19:07,113 --> 00:19:10,549 And then it's like this red carpet that gets rolled out. 497 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:15,454 I mean, if you hurt one person, you get 10 years in prison. 498 00:19:15,554 --> 00:19:17,456 But if you hurt millions of people, 499 00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:19,558 you get your name on a building. 500 00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:20,960 Congresswoman, thanks for talking to me. 501 00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:22,061 Of course. Thanks for having me. 502 00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:23,129 [cheering] 503 00:19:23,229 --> 00:19:24,664 Stay tuned because when we come back, 504 00:19:24,764 --> 00:19:26,465 Betty Gilpin will be joining me on the show. 505 00:19:26,532 --> 00:19:27,466 So don't go away. 506 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:30,903 [cheering] 507 00:19:38,209 --> 00:19:40,979 [cheering] 508 00:19:44,315 --> 00:19:47,552 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 509 00:19:47,652 --> 00:19:48,653 My guest tonight is an Emmy-nominated actor 510 00:19:48,753 --> 00:19:50,755 from GLOW and Gaslit. 511 00:19:50,855 --> 00:19:52,523 She's here to talk about her new drama series 512 00:19:52,624 --> 00:19:54,826 for Peacock called Mrs. Davis. 513 00:19:54,926 --> 00:19:56,995 Your costume, what's it from? 514 00:19:57,095 --> 00:19:58,096 It's not from anything. 515 00:19:58,196 --> 00:19:59,097 I'm a nun. 516 00:19:59,197 --> 00:20:01,165 [laughs] 517 00:20:01,266 --> 00:20:02,634 Like, for real? 518 00:20:02,734 --> 00:20:03,635 Yeah, for real. 519 00:20:03,735 --> 00:20:04,636 Cool. 520 00:20:04,736 --> 00:20:05,837 Didn't know they had those anymore. 521 00:20:05,937 --> 00:20:08,072 The Swedish meatball tray is empty. 522 00:20:08,172 --> 00:20:09,173 Are you going to get more? 523 00:20:09,274 --> 00:20:11,676 Oh, yeah, sure. 524 00:20:11,776 --> 00:20:12,677 Oh, right now? 525 00:20:12,777 --> 00:20:16,514 OK, gotcha. 526 00:20:16,614 --> 00:20:18,416 No, I am not talking it. 527 00:20:18,516 --> 00:20:20,451 I'm eating. 528 00:20:20,551 --> 00:20:25,556 (TOGETHER) Will you take a photo of our family, please? 529 00:20:25,657 --> 00:20:28,493 Yes, of course, I will. 530 00:20:28,593 --> 00:20:29,827 Please, welcome Betty Gilpin. 531 00:20:29,928 --> 00:20:36,935 [cheering] 532 00:20:44,876 --> 00:20:47,912 Betty, welcome to The Daily Show. 533 00:20:48,012 --> 00:20:49,047 Thanks, for having me, Jordan. 534 00:20:49,147 --> 00:20:50,348 Of course. 535 00:20:50,448 --> 00:20:52,150 Now, there's a lot of buzz around this Mrs. Davis show. 536 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:53,251 - Is there? - There is buzz. 537 00:20:53,351 --> 00:20:55,053 - Great. - You're part of it, right? 538 00:20:55,153 --> 00:20:56,120 This is what you want, right? 539 00:20:56,220 --> 00:20:57,388 Yeah, I think so. 540 00:20:57,488 --> 00:20:58,656 JORDAN KLEPPER: No, you're doing great! 541 00:20:58,823 --> 00:21:00,258 She's doing great! Betty's doing great, right? 542 00:21:00,358 --> 00:21:02,727 [cheering] 543 00:21:02,827 --> 00:21:03,728 It's funny. 544 00:21:03,828 --> 00:21:05,863 I watch a clip like that. 545 00:21:05,964 --> 00:21:07,031 There's a lot going on, and there's 546 00:21:07,131 --> 00:21:08,032 a lot going on in the show. 547 00:21:08,132 --> 00:21:09,200 So much going on, yeah. 548 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:10,602 In fact, they've told us-- they're like, 549 00:21:10,702 --> 00:21:11,669 there's a lot of spoilers. 550 00:21:11,836 --> 00:21:12,837 Yeah. 551 00:21:12,904 --> 00:21:14,572 You can't talk about certain things. 552 00:21:14,672 --> 00:21:16,007 BETTY GILPIN: So many things you can't talk 553 00:21:16,107 --> 00:21:17,375 about, impossible to promote. 554 00:21:17,475 --> 00:21:20,445 I'm not used to doing something so plot heavy. 555 00:21:20,545 --> 00:21:22,647 Usually, the plot of things I do are, 556 00:21:22,747 --> 00:21:24,983 like, when is she going to sob or have sex? 557 00:21:25,083 --> 00:21:28,152 And that's kind of like the plot twists for that episode. 558 00:21:28,253 --> 00:21:29,454 Screenwriting 101, right? 559 00:21:29,554 --> 00:21:30,521 Yeah, exactly. 560 00:21:30,622 --> 00:21:32,957 And this plot is like a Rubik's cube had 561 00:21:33,057 --> 00:21:34,659 sex with a haunted calculator. 562 00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:35,893 [laughter] 563 00:21:35,994 --> 00:21:36,894 It's the best. 564 00:21:36,995 --> 00:21:37,996 JORDAN KLEPPER: I feel like there's 565 00:21:38,096 --> 00:21:39,464 a bunch of different genres going on in this. 566 00:21:39,564 --> 00:21:40,865 Yes, like a hundred different gen-- 567 00:21:40,965 --> 00:21:43,568 I keep saying, it's like no country for old Looney Tunes 568 00:21:43,668 --> 00:21:44,569 is the genre. 569 00:21:44,669 --> 00:21:45,637 That's about right, right? 570 00:21:45,803 --> 00:21:46,904 Yeah. 571 00:21:47,005 --> 00:21:50,808 In a nutshell, a spoiler-free nutshell, essentially, 572 00:21:50,842 --> 00:21:53,311 you are a nun who's part of the resistance, 573 00:21:53,411 --> 00:21:55,413 fighting an all-knowing AI. 574 00:21:55,513 --> 00:21:56,414 Yes. 575 00:21:56,514 --> 00:21:57,582 Yeah, so the show kind of-- 576 00:21:57,682 --> 00:21:58,917 JORDAN KLEPPER: It almost sounded like a joke 577 00:21:59,017 --> 00:21:59,918 as I called that premise. 578 00:22:00,018 --> 00:22:01,185 Yeah. 579 00:22:01,286 --> 00:22:02,820 It's like, oh, Hollywood and these old cliches, right? 580 00:22:02,887 --> 00:22:05,490 Right, or like ChatGPT wrote that synopsis. 581 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:06,624 Yeah. 582 00:22:06,724 --> 00:22:09,827 Yeah, it's a society not unlike our own, but one 583 00:22:09,861 --> 00:22:14,832 where an AI or an algorithm like Siri or Alexa 584 00:22:14,933 --> 00:22:17,335 called Mrs. Davis has kind of taken over, 585 00:22:17,435 --> 00:22:19,871 is in everyone's ear, purports to be benevolent. 586 00:22:19,971 --> 00:22:23,241 And there's a small faction of society, myself, a nun, 587 00:22:23,341 --> 00:22:28,146 included that thinks she or it is evil and not to be trusted. 588 00:22:28,246 --> 00:22:29,180 Now, how do you train? 589 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,315 Because there's a lot of fighting. 590 00:22:30,415 --> 00:22:31,649 How do you train to be a fighting nun? 591 00:22:31,749 --> 00:22:33,051 Is it-- is it-- - Yeah. 592 00:22:33,151 --> 00:22:34,052 Is it Kung Fu? 593 00:22:34,152 --> 00:22:35,219 Is it Bible? 594 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,955 You know, it's more-- 595 00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:40,325 yeah, after GLOW, it's-- 596 00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:43,294 that felt like falling down a cement staircase every day. 597 00:22:43,394 --> 00:22:45,797 So this was like, yeah, I guess I fall on my butt, like, 598 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:46,798 three times in the show. 599 00:22:46,898 --> 00:22:48,566 It's not as comparable. 600 00:22:48,666 --> 00:22:52,604 But I Zoomed with nuns to prepare. 601 00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:53,605 Is that sacrilegious? 602 00:22:53,705 --> 00:22:54,606 Can you do that? 603 00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:56,507 Yeah, no, they love to Zoom. 604 00:22:56,608 --> 00:22:57,976 They're Zoomers. Yeah. 605 00:22:58,076 --> 00:22:59,444 They're like, breaks the monotony. 606 00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:00,511 Thank you. What do you want to know? 607 00:23:00,612 --> 00:23:01,579 Typically, yeah. 608 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:02,714 Did you ask them at all about fighting? 609 00:23:02,814 --> 00:23:04,048 Like, if you had to fight, I know 610 00:23:04,148 --> 00:23:05,216 it's not your first go to. 611 00:23:05,316 --> 00:23:06,584 But if you had to, what would you do? 612 00:23:06,684 --> 00:23:07,585 Yeah. 613 00:23:07,685 --> 00:23:09,821 I mean, I think on screen, we're 614 00:23:09,921 --> 00:23:13,358 used to seeing either, like, one-dimensional, climb 615 00:23:13,458 --> 00:23:16,728 every mountain, pious nuns, or horror movie nuns 616 00:23:16,828 --> 00:23:18,563 with, like, blood coming out of their eyes. 617 00:23:18,663 --> 00:23:22,667 And the nuns I spoke to were three very different, 618 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:24,068 multifaceted women. 619 00:23:24,168 --> 00:23:27,538 And while I don't hold the same belief system that they hold, 620 00:23:27,639 --> 00:23:30,975 I was very impressed and had to kind of check 621 00:23:31,075 --> 00:23:33,077 the cliche of them that I had in my head, 622 00:23:33,177 --> 00:23:34,279 which was very wrong. 623 00:23:34,379 --> 00:23:37,048 So none of them had blood coming from their eyes? 624 00:23:37,148 --> 00:23:38,516 - No, not one. - Really? 625 00:23:38,616 --> 00:23:40,218 Maybe the second they de-Zoomed, they're like, 626 00:23:40,318 --> 00:23:42,587 OK, we can-- we can cry blood. 627 00:23:42,687 --> 00:23:43,821 Yeah. 628 00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:44,956 Water turned to blood, it's part 629 00:23:45,056 --> 00:23:46,057 of the whole religious thing. 630 00:23:46,157 --> 00:23:47,258 Yeah, I haven't read up on it. 631 00:23:47,358 --> 00:23:48,693 But I think that's how it goes down in the Bible. 632 00:23:48,793 --> 00:23:49,694 I think that's what happens. 633 00:23:49,794 --> 00:23:51,496 Yeah, chapter 3 of the Bible. 634 00:23:51,596 --> 00:23:54,599 Now, what is your relationship with AI? 635 00:23:54,699 --> 00:23:55,800 Are you fearful of it? 636 00:23:55,867 --> 00:23:58,036 You're a wonderful writer as well as an actress. 637 00:23:58,136 --> 00:23:59,103 Thanks. 638 00:23:59,203 --> 00:24:01,272 Do you look at something like even ChatGPT? 639 00:24:01,372 --> 00:24:03,641 Do you fear that it's coming for your jobs? 640 00:24:03,808 --> 00:24:06,611 Yeah, it's really scary. 641 00:24:06,711 --> 00:24:08,680 I mean, the internet in general, it's weird. 642 00:24:08,813 --> 00:24:10,682 I have a two and a half year old. 643 00:24:10,815 --> 00:24:11,849 We were talking backstage. So do I. 644 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:12,951 He has peers. 645 00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:13,985 They're going to be betrothed to each other. 646 00:24:14,085 --> 00:24:14,986 We arrange their marriage. - Yes. 647 00:24:15,086 --> 00:24:16,187 Oh, sorry. We should-- yeah, yeah. 648 00:24:16,287 --> 00:24:18,990 Yeah, Whit, FYI, we've been doing-- you're fine. 649 00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:19,991 It's actually-- yeah. 650 00:24:20,091 --> 00:24:21,392 Everything's great. 651 00:24:21,492 --> 00:24:24,329 But, you know, I try to limit her screen time. 652 00:24:24,429 --> 00:24:26,631 And I snatch phones away from her like it's poison. 653 00:24:26,731 --> 00:24:29,634 And then I myself can't pee without watching 654 00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:31,135 Millie Bobby Brown take a lie detector 655 00:24:31,235 --> 00:24:33,171 test because I'm so addicted. 656 00:24:33,271 --> 00:24:34,739 I'm addicted to the thing that I'm 657 00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:36,174 telling my daughter is poison. 658 00:24:36,274 --> 00:24:37,275 So I don't know. 659 00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:38,776 I have to get right with that before she's 660 00:24:38,876 --> 00:24:40,144 on the grid of understanding. 661 00:24:40,245 --> 00:24:44,415 But in terms of AI, I think our show, 662 00:24:44,515 --> 00:24:47,018 Mrs. Davis on Peacock, April 20, 663 00:24:47,118 --> 00:24:50,121 is kind of asking the same question that we are asking 664 00:24:50,221 --> 00:24:53,057 now, which is, are you our savior, or are you 665 00:24:53,157 --> 00:24:54,926 our downfall, to AI. 666 00:24:55,026 --> 00:24:58,463 And even when we were filming, ChatGPT 667 00:24:58,563 --> 00:25:00,331 six months ago wasn't as much a part 668 00:25:00,431 --> 00:25:02,166 of the headlines as it is now. 669 00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:03,334 And I don't know. 670 00:25:03,434 --> 00:25:04,836 It's really scary. JORDAN KLEPPER: It is scary. 671 00:25:04,936 --> 00:25:06,671 - Yeah. - I feel like this show-- 672 00:25:06,804 --> 00:25:08,873 it kind of asks that question, or it looks to ask-- 673 00:25:08,973 --> 00:25:12,010 when you look at guidance, do you turn to technology, 674 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:13,578 or do you turn to God? 675 00:25:13,678 --> 00:25:14,879 Yeah. 676 00:25:14,979 --> 00:25:17,348 Like, are you a God believer or an Elon Musk believer? 677 00:25:17,448 --> 00:25:18,917 - Right. - Sort of-- 678 00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:20,318 Right. 679 00:25:20,418 --> 00:25:21,519 Where do you fall in that line? 680 00:25:21,619 --> 00:25:22,854 Have you have you picked a side yet? 681 00:25:22,954 --> 00:25:23,855 I mean-- 682 00:25:23,955 --> 00:25:24,856 JORDAN KLEPPER: One's got rockets. 683 00:25:24,956 --> 00:25:25,857 Right. Yeah. 684 00:25:25,957 --> 00:25:27,058 [laughter] 685 00:25:27,158 --> 00:25:28,159 Yeah. 686 00:25:28,259 --> 00:25:31,863 I mean, I myself am not a person of faith. 687 00:25:31,963 --> 00:25:34,032 But I do think this show has made me think a lot 688 00:25:34,132 --> 00:25:37,669 about church and the internet being these two 689 00:25:37,769 --> 00:25:42,974 sort of institutional responses to the same human question 690 00:25:43,074 --> 00:25:46,678 sort of, of asking why and wandering 691 00:25:46,778 --> 00:25:49,514 and wanting to-- wondering and wandering and wanting 692 00:25:49,614 --> 00:25:50,782 to connect with each other. 693 00:25:50,882 --> 00:25:53,418 And I think we often use church and the internet 694 00:25:53,518 --> 00:25:57,188 to do the opposite of what they were probably built for, 695 00:25:57,288 --> 00:25:59,090 which is to connect and wonder. 696 00:25:59,190 --> 00:26:03,127 And we use it to disconnect and to provide all of the answers 697 00:26:03,227 --> 00:26:04,996 in your echo chamber. 698 00:26:05,096 --> 00:26:06,431 And I think-- 699 00:26:06,531 --> 00:26:08,266 I look at my daughter, and I hope 700 00:26:08,366 --> 00:26:09,968 that we're just the generation driving 701 00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:12,837 without seatbelts, using this to disconnect and get dumber. 702 00:26:12,937 --> 00:26:15,306 Maybe they can use it to connect and get smarter. 703 00:26:15,406 --> 00:26:17,275 But I don't know. 704 00:26:17,375 --> 00:26:18,443 Probably not. 705 00:26:18,543 --> 00:26:22,580 [applause] 706 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,649 What is your daughter obsessed with? 707 00:26:24,816 --> 00:26:27,185 My son loves Gabby's Dollhouse and Bluey. 708 00:26:27,285 --> 00:26:28,653 That's going nonstop in our house. 709 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:30,421 Yeah, I mean, she pooped her pants on Easter. 710 00:26:30,521 --> 00:26:32,090 So I don't know if she's, like, the future of AI. 711 00:26:32,190 --> 00:26:33,091 Yeah. 712 00:26:33,191 --> 00:26:34,359 Yeah. 713 00:26:34,459 --> 00:26:36,327 But-- oh, sorry, Mary. 714 00:26:36,427 --> 00:26:37,762 [laughter] 715 00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:39,530 She's like, are you kidding? 716 00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:43,801 Yeah, she's into-- she's like a fluffy Thor Lebowski 717 00:26:43,901 --> 00:26:45,503 as a two-year-old girl. 718 00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:46,638 She's awesome. 719 00:26:46,771 --> 00:26:47,772 A Thor Lebowski? 720 00:26:47,805 --> 00:26:48,873 Yeah, finally. 721 00:26:48,973 --> 00:26:50,775 Now, part of what's exciting about Mrs. Davis, 722 00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:53,311 Damon Lindelof is one of the creators of this 723 00:26:53,411 --> 00:26:55,246 from the Watchmen, Lost days. 724 00:26:55,346 --> 00:26:57,782 I feel like Watchmen was such a compelling storyline 725 00:26:57,882 --> 00:27:00,285 that came at big topics from a different angle. 726 00:27:00,385 --> 00:27:01,286 Yeah. 727 00:27:01,386 --> 00:27:03,488 And, also, it had the story unfold 728 00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:07,125 in a way that feels both mature and like it's cutting ground. 729 00:27:07,225 --> 00:27:08,293 You've worked with him before. 730 00:27:08,393 --> 00:27:09,560 Yes. 731 00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:11,362 I wonder like what drew you to working with him again 732 00:27:11,462 --> 00:27:12,797 and what it was about this project 733 00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:14,632 that you found interesting in its storytelling technique. 734 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:15,700 Yeah. 735 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,336 So he-- Damon Lindelof and Tara Hernandez 736 00:27:18,436 --> 00:27:19,804 created this show together. 737 00:27:19,871 --> 00:27:21,806 And they are both geniuses at (SOFTLY) 738 00:27:21,873 --> 00:27:23,574 what I believe you're genius at, too, 739 00:27:23,675 --> 00:27:25,410 Jordan Klepper, which is-- 740 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:26,678 [laughter] 741 00:27:26,811 --> 00:27:27,712 Go on. 742 00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:29,080 You don't have to say it like a robot. 743 00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:30,081 I mean, that's-- 744 00:27:30,181 --> 00:27:32,483 [laughter] 745 00:27:32,584 --> 00:27:34,485 Well, I think you're a genius at this as well. 746 00:27:34,586 --> 00:27:35,486 Thank you. Did we get that? 747 00:27:35,587 --> 00:27:37,055 We got that clean? - Yeah, to camera. 748 00:27:37,155 --> 00:27:38,056 Sorry. - Perfect. 749 00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:39,524 [applause] 750 00:27:39,624 --> 00:27:43,161 They hide a thesis statement in farce, which I think 751 00:27:43,261 --> 00:27:45,096 oftentimes, when we're sitting down 752 00:27:45,196 --> 00:27:47,865 to decide what to watch on TV every night, 753 00:27:47,966 --> 00:27:51,836 we often are faced with either joyful and mindless 754 00:27:51,936 --> 00:27:53,838 or important and depressing. 755 00:27:53,938 --> 00:27:56,341 And I think finding joyful and important 756 00:27:56,441 --> 00:27:58,977 is hard to do but possible. 757 00:27:59,077 --> 00:28:01,980 And I think Damon and Tara both do it really beautifully. 758 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,016 And I think our show is an example of that. 759 00:28:05,116 --> 00:28:06,918 And this show is an example of that for sure. 760 00:28:07,018 --> 00:28:08,953 Joyful and-- and what? 761 00:28:09,053 --> 00:28:10,588 - Important. - Oh, right, right. 762 00:28:10,688 --> 00:28:11,789 Yeah. 763 00:28:11,823 --> 00:28:12,790 Joyful and important, yes. 764 00:28:12,824 --> 00:28:13,791 Yes. 765 00:28:13,825 --> 00:28:15,026 The first four episodes of Mrs. Davis 766 00:28:15,126 --> 00:28:17,228 will premiere on Peacock on April 20. 767 00:28:17,328 --> 00:28:18,663 We're going to take a quick break, 768 00:28:18,796 --> 00:28:19,897 but we'll be right back after this. 769 00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:22,000 [cheering] 770 00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:25,436 [music playing] 771 00:28:30,974 --> 00:28:32,209 That's our show for tonight. 772 00:28:32,309 --> 00:28:35,179 Now here it is, your Moment of Zen. 773 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:42,252 [band playing] 774 00:28:52,563 --> 00:28:54,298 ANNOUNCER: MTV.