1 00:00:02,344 --> 00:00:05,379 ANNOUNCER: From New York City, the only city in America, 2 00:00:05,482 --> 00:00:08,172 it's the show that invented news. 3 00:00:08,275 --> 00:00:13,620 This is The Daily Show with your host, Al Franken. 4 00:00:13,724 --> 00:00:20,724 [cheering] 5 00:00:28,931 --> 00:00:30,310 Welcome. 6 00:00:30,413 --> 00:00:33,241 Welcome Thank you. 7 00:00:33,344 --> 00:00:34,724 Welcome. 8 00:00:34,827 --> 00:00:37,206 No, no, no. 9 00:00:37,310 --> 00:00:41,241 Welcome to the-- welcome to The Daily Show. 10 00:00:41,344 --> 00:00:43,172 I'm your host for the week, Al Franken. 11 00:00:43,275 --> 00:00:44,310 I'm the-- 12 00:00:44,413 --> 00:00:47,655 [cheering] 13 00:00:47,758 --> 00:00:52,551 I'm the ninth guest host so far and the first white male 14 00:00:52,655 --> 00:00:54,000 guest host. 15 00:00:54,103 --> 00:00:55,586 Feel free to applaud. 16 00:00:55,689 --> 00:00:59,448 [cheering] 17 00:00:59,551 --> 00:01:02,241 We've got a great show for you tonight. 18 00:01:02,344 --> 00:01:05,931 My friend, Senator Lindsey Graham is joining me. 19 00:01:06,034 --> 00:01:08,689 [applause] 20 00:01:08,793 --> 00:01:10,103 Oh. 21 00:01:10,206 --> 00:01:11,103 Yeah. 22 00:01:11,206 --> 00:01:12,655 [laughter] 23 00:01:12,758 --> 00:01:15,482 So let's get into the headlines. 24 00:01:15,586 --> 00:01:20,275 [cheering] 25 00:01:20,379 --> 00:01:23,033 You know, last week I was thinking, 26 00:01:23,137 --> 00:01:27,482 there's not going to be much news when I host. 27 00:01:27,586 --> 00:01:32,103 But, oh, boy, it's going to be an exciting week. 28 00:01:32,206 --> 00:01:34,378 If former President Trump is correct, 29 00:01:34,482 --> 00:01:36,965 we are on the verge of something unprecedented 30 00:01:37,068 --> 00:01:38,378 in American history-- 31 00:01:38,482 --> 00:01:42,172 a former US President arraigned before a judge, 32 00:01:42,275 --> 00:01:43,827 facing criminal charges. 33 00:01:43,931 --> 00:01:45,033 REPORTER: Over the weekend, Trump 34 00:01:45,137 --> 00:01:47,586 claimed he will be arrested tomorrow, indicted 35 00:01:47,689 --> 00:01:51,206 by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg for charges 36 00:01:51,310 --> 00:01:53,413 related to hush money payments he made 37 00:01:53,517 --> 00:01:55,275 to porn star Stormy Daniels. 38 00:01:55,378 --> 00:01:58,586 The only person saying that Donald Trump will be arrested 39 00:01:58,689 --> 00:02:00,655 tomorrow is Donald Trump. 40 00:02:00,758 --> 00:02:02,793 And Trump's own spokesperson says 41 00:02:02,896 --> 00:02:04,413 that they have not been notified 42 00:02:04,517 --> 00:02:05,896 of any pending arrests. 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,344 REPORTER: Over the weekend, the former president spent 44 00:02:08,448 --> 00:02:10,310 his time on his social media platform, 45 00:02:10,413 --> 00:02:12,724 Truth Social, urging his supporters 46 00:02:12,827 --> 00:02:16,482 to protest and, quote, "take our nation back." 47 00:02:16,586 --> 00:02:17,517 That's right. 48 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:20,000 According to Donald Trump himself, 49 00:02:20,103 --> 00:02:24,413 Donald Trump may actually be indicted this week. 50 00:02:24,517 --> 00:02:31,517 [cheering] 51 00:02:33,965 --> 00:02:39,103 And-- and I've got just one thing to say about that. 52 00:02:39,206 --> 00:02:40,172 Finally! 53 00:02:40,275 --> 00:02:45,620 [cheering] 54 00:02:45,724 --> 00:02:48,724 And you know what the best thing about it is? 55 00:02:48,827 --> 00:02:51,965 It's happening right here in the greatest city 56 00:02:52,067 --> 00:02:53,689 on the planet, New York City! 57 00:02:53,793 --> 00:03:00,137 [cheering] 58 00:03:00,241 --> 00:03:02,172 Wow. 59 00:03:02,275 --> 00:03:07,586 Wow. 60 00:03:07,689 --> 00:03:09,689 This is easy. 61 00:03:09,793 --> 00:03:10,931 You guys are great. 62 00:03:11,034 --> 00:03:11,931 Aren't you great? 63 00:03:12,034 --> 00:03:13,241 Aren't you a great audience? 64 00:03:13,344 --> 00:03:14,241 Aren't you the best? 65 00:03:14,344 --> 00:03:15,482 [cheering] 66 00:03:15,586 --> 00:03:17,724 Oh, god. 67 00:03:17,827 --> 00:03:20,344 God, they love me. 68 00:03:20,448 --> 00:03:23,482 And I got to say, who would have 69 00:03:23,586 --> 00:03:26,586 ever thought that Donald Trump would be 70 00:03:26,689 --> 00:03:31,896 brought down by a porn star? 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,241 All of us, right? 72 00:03:33,344 --> 00:03:35,930 It was pretty-- pretty predictable. 73 00:03:36,034 --> 00:03:39,793 But, yeah, Donald Trump paid Stormy Daniels 74 00:03:39,896 --> 00:03:41,620 to keep this story quiet. 75 00:03:41,724 --> 00:03:45,103 And here we are still talking about it seven years later. 76 00:03:45,206 --> 00:03:49,379 So that would be another failed Trump business venture. 77 00:03:49,482 --> 00:03:55,103 [applause] 78 00:03:55,206 --> 00:03:58,413 Now, if Donald Trump does get arrested, 79 00:03:58,517 --> 00:04:01,172 he'll have to go through the normal procedure-- 80 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:03,206 the perp walk, the fingerprinting, 81 00:04:03,310 --> 00:04:06,172 and, of course, the mug shot. 82 00:04:06,275 --> 00:04:11,000 I certainly hope that the booking officer is respectful 83 00:04:11,103 --> 00:04:14,241 and doesn't take advantage of the opportunity to play 84 00:04:14,344 --> 00:04:18,413 some, you know, stupid joke. 85 00:04:18,517 --> 00:04:21,827 [laughter] 86 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:23,482 [NEW YORK ACCENT] Mr. President, this 87 00:04:23,586 --> 00:04:25,275 will be your mug shot. 88 00:04:25,379 --> 00:04:28,965 So I'm going to snap the photo on the count of three. 89 00:04:29,068 --> 00:04:29,965 OK, . 90 00:04:30,068 --> 00:04:32,000 Mr President? 91 00:04:32,103 --> 00:04:33,724 1-- here we go. 92 00:04:33,827 --> 00:04:34,724 Hang on. 93 00:04:34,827 --> 00:04:38,965 1, 2-- hit the wind machine! 94 00:04:39,068 --> 00:04:40,103 [gusting] 95 00:04:40,206 --> 00:04:43,034 3! 96 00:04:43,137 --> 00:04:50,103 [cheering] 97 00:04:52,275 --> 00:04:55,448 Now, as you saw, Trump asked his supporters 98 00:04:55,551 --> 00:04:57,965 to come out and protest. 99 00:04:58,068 --> 00:05:01,344 And they're already coming up with some fun ideas. 100 00:05:01,448 --> 00:05:05,379 Apparently, some Trump fans are talking about preventing 101 00:05:05,482 --> 00:05:09,482 Trump's arrest by forming a so-called patriot 102 00:05:09,586 --> 00:05:13,068 moat around Mar-a-Lago. 103 00:05:13,172 --> 00:05:18,517 And I have to ask, who are these people who can just 104 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:21,551 leave whatever they're doing to go physically 105 00:05:21,655 --> 00:05:25,448 protect Donald Trump? 106 00:05:25,551 --> 00:05:28,241 Nurse, you'll have to find someone else 107 00:05:28,344 --> 00:05:31,137 to finish the brain surgery. 108 00:05:31,241 --> 00:05:33,275 The president has summoned me to Mar-a-Lago 109 00:05:33,379 --> 00:05:37,689 to be a human moat for him. 110 00:05:37,793 --> 00:05:41,103 Of course, many Republican officials are also 111 00:05:41,206 --> 00:05:42,827 coming to Trump's defense. 112 00:05:42,931 --> 00:05:46,689 House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Lindsey Graham, 113 00:05:46,793 --> 00:05:49,862 who will be on the show in a little while, 114 00:05:49,965 --> 00:05:54,517 and even Mike Pence appeared on the noose-- 115 00:05:54,620 --> 00:05:57,172 sorry-- sorry, the news. 116 00:05:57,275 --> 00:06:03,965 [applause] 117 00:06:05,137 --> 00:06:07,724 He appeared on the news to speak up for Trump. 118 00:06:07,827 --> 00:06:10,931 But one person who was conspicuously quiet 119 00:06:11,034 --> 00:06:15,862 all weekend is Trump's chief rival for the 2024 election, 120 00:06:15,965 --> 00:06:17,827 Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. 121 00:06:17,931 --> 00:06:20,586 And Trump world put a lot of pressure 122 00:06:20,689 --> 00:06:23,620 on him to rally to Trump's defense. 123 00:06:23,724 --> 00:06:29,413 So today he finally did in just a bit of a backhanded way. 124 00:06:29,517 --> 00:06:32,241 I don't know what goes into paying hush money 125 00:06:32,344 --> 00:06:35,793 to a porn star to secure silence over some type 126 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:36,793 of alleged affair. 127 00:06:36,896 --> 00:06:39,689 I just-- I can't speak to that. 128 00:06:39,793 --> 00:06:45,586 But what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who 129 00:06:45,689 --> 00:06:49,448 is ignoring crimes happening every single day 130 00:06:49,551 --> 00:06:52,413 in his jurisdiction, and he chooses to go back 131 00:06:52,517 --> 00:06:58,448 many, many years ago to try to use something about porn star 132 00:06:58,551 --> 00:07:00,344 hush money payments, you know, that's 133 00:07:00,448 --> 00:07:05,758 an example of pursuing a political agenda. 134 00:07:05,862 --> 00:07:08,620 Did I mention that this whole thing was 135 00:07:08,724 --> 00:07:11,965 about porn star hush money? 136 00:07:12,068 --> 00:07:15,310 Because it's about porn star hush money. 137 00:07:15,413 --> 00:07:19,551 Just to be clear, porn star hush money. 138 00:07:19,655 --> 00:07:22,275 [laughter] 139 00:07:22,379 --> 00:07:28,965 [applause] 140 00:07:29,068 --> 00:07:31,379 DeSantis has it all. 141 00:07:31,482 --> 00:07:33,517 Let's move on to some international news 142 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:36,137 because Donald Trump isn't the only leader 143 00:07:36,241 --> 00:07:37,758 facing indictment this week. 144 00:07:37,862 --> 00:07:41,103 His best friend was also indicted. 145 00:07:41,206 --> 00:07:42,758 The extraordinary announcement 146 00:07:42,862 --> 00:07:45,482 today about Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin. 147 00:07:45,586 --> 00:07:47,931 The International Criminal Court at the Hague 148 00:07:48,034 --> 00:07:50,344 issued an arrest warrant for the Russian President 149 00:07:50,448 --> 00:07:53,862 for war crimes, implicating him in the abduction 150 00:07:53,965 --> 00:07:57,482 of thousands of Ukrainian children during the war. 151 00:07:57,586 --> 00:08:00,793 Ukraine's president hailed the move as a historic decision. 152 00:08:00,896 --> 00:08:03,000 But the charges are largely symbolic. 153 00:08:03,103 --> 00:08:04,103 REPORTER: Over the weekend, Putin 154 00:08:04,206 --> 00:08:05,620 made an unannounced visit to a city 155 00:08:05,724 --> 00:08:07,724 that Russia seized from Ukraine last year 156 00:08:07,827 --> 00:08:09,206 after a brutal battle. 157 00:08:09,310 --> 00:08:11,862 REPORTER: In a surprise visit, President Putin drove himself 158 00:08:11,965 --> 00:08:14,655 through Russian-occupied Mariupol Saturday, 159 00:08:14,758 --> 00:08:17,206 inspecting newly-built facilities in what's believed 160 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:19,344 to be his closest tour to the front lines 161 00:08:19,448 --> 00:08:22,034 of this war he started. 162 00:08:22,137 --> 00:08:23,068 That's right. 163 00:08:23,172 --> 00:08:25,310 Charged with war crimes, Putin thought 164 00:08:25,413 --> 00:08:28,586 it best to get out of town till things cooled down. 165 00:08:28,689 --> 00:08:33,965 So he packed a bag and took off to Mariupol, one of the cities 166 00:08:34,068 --> 00:08:36,034 in Ukraine that his army destroyed. 167 00:08:36,136 --> 00:08:38,379 He walked around, saw the sights, 168 00:08:38,482 --> 00:08:39,688 and shook a lot of hands. 169 00:08:39,793 --> 00:08:44,655 The hands were in a big pile on the edge of town. 170 00:08:44,758 --> 00:08:47,413 Putin then laid a wreath at the Tomb 171 00:08:47,517 --> 00:08:50,620 of the Unknown Russian soldier, who had no idea 172 00:08:50,724 --> 00:08:52,517 why the [bleep] he was there. 173 00:08:52,620 --> 00:08:55,689 [laughter] 174 00:08:55,793 --> 00:08:59,551 For more on the war, let's go live to Ukraine 175 00:08:59,655 --> 00:09:01,827 with Roy Wood, Jr., everybody. 176 00:09:01,931 --> 00:09:08,482 [cheering] 177 00:09:09,620 --> 00:09:11,551 Roy-- Roy, where are you at this moment? 178 00:09:11,655 --> 00:09:13,586 Al, I'm near the front lines, and it 179 00:09:13,689 --> 00:09:15,448 has been nonstop shelling. 180 00:09:15,551 --> 00:09:16,689 The conditions are brutal. 181 00:09:16,793 --> 00:09:18,655 Last week the Russians destroyed 182 00:09:18,758 --> 00:09:19,724 the water treatment plant. 183 00:09:19,827 --> 00:09:21,517 So I had to shit in my helmet. 184 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:23,620 And I still had to wear it the next day. 185 00:09:23,724 --> 00:09:26,310 They only give you one helmet. 186 00:09:26,413 --> 00:09:27,344 Uh-huh. 187 00:09:27,448 --> 00:09:29,862 You know, I've been thinking a lot. 188 00:09:29,965 --> 00:09:31,000 Been thinking a lot about this. 189 00:09:31,103 --> 00:09:34,137 I'm actually thinking of coming over. 190 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:35,793 Coming over where? 191 00:09:35,896 --> 00:09:37,172 Come over here? 192 00:09:37,275 --> 00:09:40,103 Al, with all due respect, brother, battlefield reporting 193 00:09:40,206 --> 00:09:43,103 is not for 71-year-old comedians. 194 00:09:43,206 --> 00:09:44,965 Leave that to me and Richard Engel 195 00:09:45,068 --> 00:09:47,482 from NBC, who, by the way, was the one who 196 00:09:47,586 --> 00:09:48,827 told me to poop in my helmet. 197 00:09:48,931 --> 00:09:50,896 Found out later I could have just shit on the ground. 198 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,896 Engel's a liar. 199 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,172 [laughter] 200 00:09:53,275 --> 00:09:54,448 You just shit on the ground. It's war. 201 00:09:54,551 --> 00:09:55,448 You shit where you want. 202 00:09:55,551 --> 00:09:56,758 That's well known about Engel. 203 00:09:56,862 --> 00:09:59,241 Roy, maybe I'm not being clear. 204 00:09:59,344 --> 00:10:02,689 I don't want to report on the war. 205 00:10:02,793 --> 00:10:04,896 I want to fight. 206 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,206 What? 207 00:10:06,310 --> 00:10:09,344 The fighting is the worst part of war. 208 00:10:09,448 --> 00:10:12,344 It goes fighting, then small talk with Sean Penn. 209 00:10:12,448 --> 00:10:13,344 Why do you want to fight? 210 00:10:13,448 --> 00:10:16,068 [laughter] 211 00:10:16,172 --> 00:10:19,931 Roy, I was born too late to fight in World War II. 212 00:10:20,034 --> 00:10:23,620 And there was no way I was going to go to Vietnam 213 00:10:23,724 --> 00:10:26,344 and Iraq and Afghanistan. 214 00:10:26,448 --> 00:10:28,655 No, thank you. 215 00:10:28,758 --> 00:10:31,137 I've been looking for a good war my whole life. 216 00:10:31,241 --> 00:10:34,482 So Ukraine may just be the cause 217 00:10:34,586 --> 00:10:37,034 that I'm willing to risk it all for, 218 00:10:37,137 --> 00:10:42,000 even if it means a hero's death. 219 00:10:42,103 --> 00:10:48,172 [applause] 220 00:10:48,275 --> 00:10:50,793 Why they clapping for you in the studio, man? 221 00:10:50,896 --> 00:10:52,068 Them people trying to get you killed. 222 00:10:52,172 --> 00:10:53,793 Look, let me give it to you straight, Al. 223 00:10:53,896 --> 00:10:55,655 You need it straight. 224 00:10:55,758 --> 00:10:58,034 I know what you're going to say. 225 00:10:58,137 --> 00:11:00,724 You're proud of me. 226 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:05,034 But I should first make out a will. 227 00:11:05,137 --> 00:11:07,896 You don't already have a will? 228 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,103 You 71. 229 00:11:09,206 --> 00:11:10,655 Jesus. 230 00:11:10,758 --> 00:11:12,379 What I was going to say is that we don't 231 00:11:12,482 --> 00:11:14,482 need thrill seekers over here. 232 00:11:14,586 --> 00:11:15,482 Oh, you know what? 233 00:11:15,586 --> 00:11:17,137 I take offense at that. 234 00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:20,551 I'm not a thrill-seeking-- 235 00:11:20,655 --> 00:11:26,448 I-- I merely want the thrill of standing shoulder 236 00:11:26,551 --> 00:11:28,448 to shoulder with the brave fighting 237 00:11:28,551 --> 00:11:33,310 men and women of the Ukraine to repel the invaders. 238 00:11:33,413 --> 00:11:36,275 God, that would be thrilling. 239 00:11:36,379 --> 00:11:38,862 [applause] 240 00:11:38,965 --> 00:11:40,310 You? 241 00:11:40,413 --> 00:11:42,310 You want to stand shoulder to shoulder to the men and women. 242 00:11:42,413 --> 00:11:43,655 Al, don't take this the wrong way, 243 00:11:43,758 --> 00:11:45,655 but physically you look like the kind of dude 244 00:11:45,758 --> 00:11:47,482 that if you was on the subway, a pregnant woman 245 00:11:47,586 --> 00:11:48,551 would give you her seat. 246 00:11:48,655 --> 00:11:51,862 [laughter] 247 00:11:51,965 --> 00:11:54,344 Respectfully. 248 00:11:54,448 --> 00:11:55,482 Respectfully. 249 00:11:55,586 --> 00:11:59,689 What-- what's the right way to take that? 250 00:11:59,793 --> 00:12:03,551 Roy, you don't know anything about me. 251 00:12:03,655 --> 00:12:04,655 I could withstand-- 252 00:12:04,758 --> 00:12:05,724 [explosion] 253 00:12:05,827 --> 00:12:07,103 Jesus! 254 00:12:07,206 --> 00:12:08,103 Whoa! 255 00:12:08,206 --> 00:12:11,482 That-- that was-- that was close. 256 00:12:11,586 --> 00:12:14,206 Yeah, close to me. 257 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:15,655 Al, this is a regular occurrence over here. 258 00:12:15,758 --> 00:12:16,655 This is war. 259 00:12:16,758 --> 00:12:17,827 OK, OK. 260 00:12:17,931 --> 00:12:19,931 Maybe I could just do something like help 261 00:12:20,034 --> 00:12:22,310 evacuate the wounded. 262 00:12:22,413 --> 00:12:25,586 Oh, yeah, well, do you have any medical training? 263 00:12:25,689 --> 00:12:27,344 Well, I just had my fourth colonoscopy. 264 00:12:27,448 --> 00:12:31,137 You know, it's important to do that regularly. 265 00:12:31,241 --> 00:12:32,551 [explosion] 266 00:12:32,655 --> 00:12:37,241 Jesus! 267 00:12:37,344 --> 00:12:38,689 This ain't no thing. 268 00:12:38,793 --> 00:12:39,793 We good. 269 00:12:39,896 --> 00:12:40,896 Everybody good? 270 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,413 OK, maybe-- maybe you have a point, Roy. 271 00:12:45,517 --> 00:12:50,586 Perhaps I can help Ukraine by, you know, I don't know, 272 00:12:50,689 --> 00:12:56,068 doing a hard-hitting episode about the war on my podcast? 273 00:12:56,172 --> 00:12:57,517 You-- 274 00:12:57,620 --> 00:13:00,931 [applause] 275 00:13:01,034 --> 00:13:02,517 What's wrong with them people in the studio? 276 00:13:02,620 --> 00:13:04,758 Why are they clapping all the time for you, Al? 277 00:13:04,862 --> 00:13:07,241 You think you can help the war effort by talking about it 278 00:13:07,344 --> 00:13:08,620 for two hours on a podcast? 279 00:13:08,724 --> 00:13:09,862 Two hours? 280 00:13:09,965 --> 00:13:11,517 Well, not two hours straight. 281 00:13:11,620 --> 00:13:16,517 You have to do a lot of ads to monetize a popular podcast 282 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:17,620 like The Al Franken Podcast. 283 00:13:17,724 --> 00:13:19,137 You know what? You know what? 284 00:13:19,241 --> 00:13:20,137 I changed my mind. 285 00:13:20,241 --> 00:13:21,241 Come on over here. 286 00:13:21,344 --> 00:13:22,379 Bring your ass on over here. 287 00:13:22,482 --> 00:13:24,655 I can get you on the front lines tomorrow. 288 00:13:24,758 --> 00:13:25,655 I got to run. 289 00:13:25,758 --> 00:13:27,551 I got to go do something. 290 00:13:27,655 --> 00:13:28,793 Fantastic. 291 00:13:28,896 --> 00:13:31,000 Roy Wood, Jr., everyone. 292 00:13:31,103 --> 00:13:32,344 I'm on my way. 293 00:13:32,448 --> 00:13:35,206 We'll be right back with South Carolina 294 00:13:35,310 --> 00:13:38,517 Senator Lindsey Graham. 295 00:13:38,620 --> 00:13:45,586 [explosion] 296 00:14:00,827 --> 00:14:03,172 Welcome back. 297 00:14:03,275 --> 00:14:05,896 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 298 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,379 My guest tonight is the senior senator 299 00:14:08,482 --> 00:14:10,620 from South Carolina, with whom I served 300 00:14:10,724 --> 00:14:12,517 in the United States Senate. 301 00:14:12,620 --> 00:14:15,206 Please welcome Senator Lindsey Graham. 302 00:14:15,310 --> 00:14:19,344 [music playing] 303 00:14:19,448 --> 00:14:21,034 That was fun. 304 00:14:21,137 --> 00:14:23,137 Good to see you. 305 00:14:23,241 --> 00:14:29,137 Thanks, man. 306 00:14:29,241 --> 00:14:30,137 Well. 307 00:14:30,241 --> 00:14:31,275 Well? 308 00:14:31,379 --> 00:14:32,586 Thanks for coming, man. 309 00:14:32,689 --> 00:14:34,241 So this is what happens, right? 310 00:14:34,344 --> 00:14:37,275 AL: I'm hopeful we'll find some common ground. 311 00:14:37,379 --> 00:14:38,379 There's always hope. 312 00:14:38,482 --> 00:14:39,379 And-- 313 00:14:39,482 --> 00:14:40,482 [laughs] 314 00:14:40,586 --> 00:14:44,034 You know, I think that-- 315 00:14:44,137 --> 00:14:46,620 We've got a joke planned, which I think is terrible. 316 00:14:46,724 --> 00:14:48,344 But go ahead. 317 00:14:48,448 --> 00:14:50,000 OK, my joke was-- 318 00:14:50,103 --> 00:14:52,551 [laughs] He's proving my point. 319 00:14:52,655 --> 00:14:55,724 --that I'm thinking that-- 320 00:14:55,827 --> 00:14:57,620 what everyone else is thinking, which is, 321 00:14:57,724 --> 00:14:59,931 how could the two of us possibly 322 00:15:00,034 --> 00:15:01,448 come off good after this? 323 00:15:01,551 --> 00:15:03,137 - Or either of us? - Or either of us. 324 00:15:03,241 --> 00:15:04,379 Now, is that funny? No. 325 00:15:04,482 --> 00:15:05,413 No. 326 00:15:05,517 --> 00:15:06,413 Well, thanks for-- 327 00:15:06,517 --> 00:15:08,068 Well, anyway, I'm glad to be here. 328 00:15:08,172 --> 00:15:09,586 That's how you kill a joke. 329 00:15:09,689 --> 00:15:11,344 Well-- [laughs] 330 00:15:11,448 --> 00:15:14,241 By saying we have a joke that I don't think is funny, 331 00:15:14,344 --> 00:15:15,241 but let's try. 332 00:15:15,344 --> 00:15:16,758 But, you know-- anyway, whatever. 333 00:15:16,862 --> 00:15:18,103 Good to see you. 334 00:15:18,206 --> 00:15:18,862 OK, I'm going to go on the Senate floor, and I'm going 335 00:15:18,965 --> 00:15:19,965 to [bleep] you up. 336 00:15:20,068 --> 00:15:21,103 I don't want to ruin his life. 337 00:15:21,206 --> 00:15:22,206 I thought he was a good senator, 338 00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:23,344 and that's why I'm here. 339 00:15:23,448 --> 00:15:24,448 You thought I covered up. 340 00:15:24,551 --> 00:15:25,517 What'd you just say? 341 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:26,655 I thought you were. 342 00:15:26,758 --> 00:15:27,758 Well, we were friends. 343 00:15:27,862 --> 00:15:29,517 Yes, were. 344 00:15:29,620 --> 00:15:31,482 Well, there's been a strain on it. 345 00:15:31,586 --> 00:15:32,620 SENATOR GRAHAM: We are. Are. 346 00:15:32,724 --> 00:15:34,655 We are friends, but there's been some strain 347 00:15:34,758 --> 00:15:35,689 in terms of your politics. 348 00:15:35,793 --> 00:15:36,689 Only on your part, not mine. 349 00:15:36,793 --> 00:15:38,344 Yeah. 350 00:15:38,448 --> 00:15:41,241 Well, you know. 351 00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:45,206 But let's find some common ground. 352 00:15:45,310 --> 00:15:48,206 For example, Ukraine-- we both believe 353 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:51,137 that this is in the vital interest of the United States. 354 00:15:51,241 --> 00:15:52,137 Yeah, Putin sucks. 355 00:15:52,241 --> 00:15:53,241 That's common ground, right? 356 00:15:53,344 --> 00:15:57,310 [cheers and applause] 357 00:15:57,413 --> 00:15:58,344 And he should be in jail. 358 00:15:58,448 --> 00:15:59,310 How about that? 359 00:15:59,413 --> 00:16:00,586 Yeah. 360 00:16:00,689 --> 00:16:02,206 Maybe not so much on Trump but definitely on Putin. 361 00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:03,206 Yeah. 362 00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:04,275 Yeah. 363 00:16:04,379 --> 00:16:06,689 Well, Putin's slightly more serious, 364 00:16:06,793 --> 00:16:09,172 but there are some serious charges against Trump. 365 00:16:09,275 --> 00:16:13,517 But nevertheless, there are some Republicans, 366 00:16:13,620 --> 00:16:17,655 and we mentioned Ron DeSantis, the governor, who 367 00:16:17,758 --> 00:16:19,965 doesn't agree with you and me. 368 00:16:20,068 --> 00:16:21,862 Well, you know, it's a free country, 369 00:16:21,965 --> 00:16:23,931 but let me just say this. 370 00:16:24,034 --> 00:16:27,448 If this is not in our vital interest, what would be? 371 00:16:27,551 --> 00:16:30,551 To have a guy invade another country, 372 00:16:30,655 --> 00:16:32,827 rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms, 373 00:16:32,931 --> 00:16:35,517 this bring back any memories? 374 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:37,724 Sign an agreement, tears it up. 375 00:16:37,827 --> 00:16:41,241 And he's gotten an arrest warrant from the ICC, which 376 00:16:41,344 --> 00:16:43,793 has done a great job, and they want to arrest him 377 00:16:43,896 --> 00:16:46,482 because he's taken Ukrainian children, 378 00:16:46,586 --> 00:16:48,482 kidnapped them from their families, 379 00:16:48,586 --> 00:16:50,344 and sent them to Russia. 380 00:16:50,448 --> 00:16:53,310 Other than that, this doesn't matter to us. 381 00:16:53,413 --> 00:16:55,137 I don't want to live in a world where that crap 382 00:16:55,241 --> 00:16:57,172 goes on without punishment. 383 00:16:57,275 --> 00:16:58,896 I want him to be punished. 384 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,206 I want him to be defeated. 385 00:17:00,310 --> 00:17:02,206 I want the Ukrainians to kick his ass. 386 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:04,931 And I want China to look and see what's coming their way 387 00:17:05,034 --> 00:17:06,275 if they're going to Taiwan. 388 00:17:06,378 --> 00:17:12,550 I absolutely agree, and I-- 389 00:17:12,655 --> 00:17:16,619 And I think President Biden has done an excellent job leading 390 00:17:16,723 --> 00:17:21,378 this coalition, and by sharing our intelligence with them 391 00:17:21,482 --> 00:17:24,068 at the beginning, getting the coalition together 392 00:17:24,172 --> 00:17:25,931 before the war even started. 393 00:17:26,034 --> 00:17:28,034 I think you would admit that was a great accomplishment. 394 00:17:28,137 --> 00:17:29,034 Yeah, I'm trying to be-- 395 00:17:29,137 --> 00:17:30,413 yeah, I'm trying to be helpful. 396 00:17:30,517 --> 00:17:33,482 I think the Ukrainians needed F-16s yesterday. 397 00:17:33,586 --> 00:17:35,724 I think I would do more on the military front. 398 00:17:35,827 --> 00:17:37,068 But we're in it together, right? 399 00:17:37,172 --> 00:17:38,586 I want to help the administration where I can. 400 00:17:38,689 --> 00:17:42,379 You know, you've got Xi and Putin meeting in Moscow. 401 00:17:42,482 --> 00:17:44,620 AL: And that's scary because we don't want them-- 402 00:17:44,724 --> 00:17:47,655 Well, you don't want them aligning together. 403 00:17:47,758 --> 00:17:50,413 So I'd like to see Russia become a state sponsor 404 00:17:50,517 --> 00:17:53,344 of terrorism under US law because anybody 405 00:17:53,448 --> 00:17:56,724 that provides material aid to state sponsor of terrorism, 406 00:17:56,827 --> 00:17:58,068 any nation runs into sanctions-- 407 00:17:58,172 --> 00:17:59,827 AL: And that would make it harder for China to ship-- 408 00:17:59,931 --> 00:18:01,482 It would make it a lot harder. 409 00:18:01,586 --> 00:18:03,206 --to ship arms to them. 410 00:18:03,310 --> 00:18:04,793 So let's make it harder for China 411 00:18:04,896 --> 00:18:08,310 to help Russia in a cruel, barbaric endeavor 412 00:18:08,413 --> 00:18:10,103 to change the world for the worst. 413 00:18:10,206 --> 00:18:11,103 OK. 414 00:18:11,206 --> 00:18:12,103 Now-- 415 00:18:12,206 --> 00:18:16,379 [applause] 416 00:18:16,482 --> 00:18:19,724 You seem a little critical of Biden for the planes 417 00:18:19,827 --> 00:18:23,517 not being there yet, the tanks getting there earlier, 418 00:18:23,620 --> 00:18:25,241 our tanks are not there. 419 00:18:25,344 --> 00:18:27,034 The German tanks are getting there. 420 00:18:27,137 --> 00:18:28,034 Anybody's tank. 421 00:18:28,137 --> 00:18:29,413 Just send a tank. 422 00:18:29,517 --> 00:18:32,689 But, you know, I want to quote 423 00:18:32,793 --> 00:18:35,137 some stuff that Trump said. 424 00:18:35,241 --> 00:18:40,758 This is what he told a guy named Sean "Han-NIT-y"-- 425 00:18:40,862 --> 00:18:41,758 "Han-NIT-y." 426 00:18:41,862 --> 00:18:48,344 [laughter] 427 00:18:48,448 --> 00:18:51,068 I have no idea who he is. 428 00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:53,034 This is what Donald Trump said. 429 00:18:53,137 --> 00:18:54,896 This is two weeks after the war started. 430 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,862 "I could have negotiated. 431 00:18:56,965 --> 00:18:59,724 At worst, I could have made a deal to take over something. 432 00:18:59,827 --> 00:19:02,379 You know, there are certain areas 433 00:19:02,482 --> 00:19:04,758 that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly. 434 00:19:04,862 --> 00:19:07,068 But you could have worked a deal." 435 00:19:07,172 --> 00:19:10,310 So in other words, Trump, at the beginning of the war, 436 00:19:10,413 --> 00:19:11,551 was saying, like, hey, I could have-- 437 00:19:11,655 --> 00:19:12,862 I could have stopped this thing. 438 00:19:12,965 --> 00:19:14,068 I could have just given them-- 439 00:19:14,172 --> 00:19:15,206 SENATOR GRAHAM: Anybody who speaks 440 00:19:15,310 --> 00:19:16,379 Russian, stand up, right? - Yeah. 441 00:19:16,482 --> 00:19:17,517 Yeah. 442 00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:19,758 And that reminds me of the Sudetenland. 443 00:19:19,862 --> 00:19:22,000 Yeah, that reminds me of a lot of things 444 00:19:22,103 --> 00:19:23,413 that didn't turn out well. 445 00:19:23,517 --> 00:19:25,517 So how about this idea? 446 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:29,517 In 1994, when we were much younger, 447 00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:32,344 the Ukrainians had 1,700 nuclear weapons 448 00:19:32,448 --> 00:19:35,172 left over from the Soviet era. 449 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:39,482 Soviet Union collapses, they give back the nukes to Russia 450 00:19:39,586 --> 00:19:42,413 with the understanding that their territorial sovereignty 451 00:19:42,517 --> 00:19:44,379 will be respected. 452 00:19:44,482 --> 00:19:46,758 And it included Crimea on the '94 map. 453 00:19:46,862 --> 00:19:47,758 AL: OK. 454 00:19:47,862 --> 00:19:49,586 So now here's Putin years later, 455 00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:53,000 tearing that up, claiming things not his, 456 00:19:53,103 --> 00:19:56,310 warning things because people speak some of the language-- 457 00:19:56,413 --> 00:20:00,034 So why did Trump say such a stupid thing? 458 00:20:00,137 --> 00:20:04,310 Well, I'm not here to say I agree with that. 459 00:20:04,413 --> 00:20:06,068 But when he was president, I thought 460 00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:08,103 he did a pretty good job at taking 461 00:20:08,206 --> 00:20:09,137 the fight to the terrorists. 462 00:20:09,241 --> 00:20:10,137 I really do. 463 00:20:10,241 --> 00:20:12,724 He kill-- killed Soleimani. 464 00:20:12,827 --> 00:20:13,862 He killed Baghdadi. 465 00:20:13,965 --> 00:20:15,448 The Abraham Accords was a big deal. 466 00:20:15,551 --> 00:20:17,310 And there you go. 467 00:20:17,413 --> 00:20:21,310 He also kind of was impeached for shaking down Zelenskyy. 468 00:20:21,413 --> 00:20:22,448 Yeah, but-- 469 00:20:22,551 --> 00:20:24,068 I know, on that one, you didn't vote guilty. 470 00:20:24,172 --> 00:20:25,517 No, I didn't vote for either one of them. 471 00:20:25,620 --> 00:20:27,275 But I'm sure there would be another one coming. 472 00:20:27,379 --> 00:20:28,413 Yeah. 473 00:20:28,517 --> 00:20:30,137 AL: I think if-- 474 00:20:30,241 --> 00:20:31,172 he's not-- 475 00:20:31,275 --> 00:20:32,482 Y'all can boo me if you want. 476 00:20:32,586 --> 00:20:35,724 This will actually help at home. 477 00:20:35,827 --> 00:20:39,000 I went to New York and nobody liked me is actually the-- 478 00:20:39,103 --> 00:20:40,000 I can withstand that. 479 00:20:40,103 --> 00:20:41,000 Don't you like him? 480 00:20:41,103 --> 00:20:42,068 Don't you like him? 481 00:20:42,172 --> 00:20:46,793 You're killing me. 482 00:20:46,896 --> 00:20:47,827 Yeah, I mean-- 483 00:20:47,931 --> 00:20:49,310 I've survived a lot. 484 00:20:49,413 --> 00:20:52,379 My point is, this is what he's saying. 485 00:20:52,482 --> 00:20:54,448 This is your guy, that you to be president, 486 00:20:54,551 --> 00:20:56,862 said after the war has started. 487 00:20:56,965 --> 00:20:58,413 SENATOR GRAHAM: Yeah, I think that's a mistake. 488 00:20:58,517 --> 00:21:02,275 Where my guy, who I want to get reelected, 489 00:21:02,379 --> 00:21:07,275 had organized the coalition, and started, and had stood up, 490 00:21:07,379 --> 00:21:10,344 and said, no, we're not going to allow this to happen. 491 00:21:10,448 --> 00:21:12,413 So I think-- yeah, you know. 492 00:21:12,517 --> 00:21:14,724 We've got '24 election is coming. 493 00:21:14,827 --> 00:21:16,758 But I think we've got a chance here in the near-term, 494 00:21:16,862 --> 00:21:21,310 really, with the proper military support, continued 495 00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:23,965 economic assistance to the Ukraine for the Ukrainians 496 00:21:24,068 --> 00:21:26,586 to decimate the Russian army in Ukraine. 497 00:21:26,689 --> 00:21:28,241 They just need the weapons to do it. 498 00:21:28,344 --> 00:21:32,896 And wouldn't that be a great outcome to a very tragic 499 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:33,965 event, to have Putin lose? 500 00:21:34,068 --> 00:21:35,896 AL: It would be. 501 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,310 And you talk to some of your other Republican friends 502 00:21:39,413 --> 00:21:40,551 on the other side-- 503 00:21:40,655 --> 00:21:42,586 Marjorie Taylor Greene-- I know, you're very close. 504 00:21:42,689 --> 00:21:43,655 Yeah, we spend tons of time. 505 00:21:43,758 --> 00:21:44,689 Yeah. 506 00:21:44,793 --> 00:21:47,551 [laughs] But there is a kind of a-- 507 00:21:47,655 --> 00:21:48,793 I'm trying to get the space later-- 508 00:21:48,896 --> 00:21:53,551 laser taken down, but we'll see how that works. 509 00:21:53,655 --> 00:21:55,655 Yeah, that was a Jewish space laser. 510 00:21:55,758 --> 00:21:56,724 But she said it was-- 511 00:21:56,827 --> 00:21:57,931 I always thought it'd have been 512 00:21:58,034 --> 00:21:59,448 funny to have a laser with a yarmulke on it, 513 00:21:59,551 --> 00:22:00,517 just flying around. 514 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:01,551 AL: [laughs] 515 00:22:01,655 --> 00:22:04,137 Apparently nobody else did, so-- 516 00:22:04,241 --> 00:22:05,172 - She has seen it. - Yeah. 517 00:22:05,275 --> 00:22:06,172 [laughs] 518 00:22:06,275 --> 00:22:07,413 Well, you know what? 519 00:22:07,517 --> 00:22:11,310 I think what we should do is take a quick break. 520 00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:12,620 OK, and pay the bills. 521 00:22:12,724 --> 00:22:16,206 And we'll be right back with Senator Lindsey Graham 522 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:20,655 right after an important message from MyPillow guy. 523 00:22:20,758 --> 00:22:27,724 [laughs] 524 00:22:43,965 --> 00:22:44,862 Welcome. 525 00:22:44,965 --> 00:22:46,655 Welcome back to The Daily Show. 526 00:22:46,758 --> 00:22:48,793 We're here with Senator Lindsey Graham. 527 00:22:48,896 --> 00:22:50,344 You know, Lindsey, you asked me during the break 528 00:22:50,448 --> 00:22:51,448 what I'm doing. 529 00:22:51,551 --> 00:22:52,758 And part of what I've been doing 530 00:22:52,862 --> 00:22:57,275 is the "only former US Senator currently on tour" tour. 531 00:22:57,379 --> 00:23:00,241 And when the audiences ask me, they 532 00:23:00,344 --> 00:23:03,965 say, who is the funniest US Senator while you were there? 533 00:23:04,068 --> 00:23:05,758 And I always say Lindsey Graham. 534 00:23:05,862 --> 00:23:08,655 And they always hate it because they're my crowd. 535 00:23:08,758 --> 00:23:10,482 And then I tell them this-- 536 00:23:10,586 --> 00:23:13,310 when you were running for president in '16-- 537 00:23:13,413 --> 00:23:14,344 Y'all remember that? 538 00:23:14,448 --> 00:23:15,655 Yeah, remember? 539 00:23:15,758 --> 00:23:16,724 You're the ones. 540 00:23:16,827 --> 00:23:18,344 You were like 2% at one point. 541 00:23:18,448 --> 00:23:19,344 Yeah, that was-- 542 00:23:19,448 --> 00:23:20,862 I peaked. 543 00:23:20,965 --> 00:23:23,758 [laughs] So one day I go-- 544 00:23:23,862 --> 00:23:26,172 I go in the Senate bathroom, and I turn to you. 545 00:23:26,275 --> 00:23:31,172 And I say, Lindsey, if I were a Republican, 546 00:23:31,275 --> 00:23:32,793 I'd vote for you for president. 547 00:23:32,896 --> 00:23:33,793 And you said-- 548 00:23:33,896 --> 00:23:35,034 That's my problem. 549 00:23:35,137 --> 00:23:41,000 [laughter] 550 00:23:41,103 --> 00:23:42,241 That's the third story. 551 00:23:42,344 --> 00:23:45,275 So when you get our age, you have a lot of time 552 00:23:45,379 --> 00:23:46,827 to talk to people in the bathroom. 553 00:23:46,931 --> 00:23:51,896 So and yeah, that was my problem in a nutshell. 554 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,896 The Al Franken wing of the Republican Party 555 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,172 is not as big as you think it would be. 556 00:23:57,275 --> 00:23:58,172 AL: Yeah. 557 00:23:58,275 --> 00:23:59,482 Well, let's-- 558 00:23:59,586 --> 00:24:01,137 I hope you make it the rest of the week, by the way. 559 00:24:01,241 --> 00:24:02,482 Don't you think he'd be a good host? 560 00:24:02,586 --> 00:24:04,206 [cheers] 561 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:08,517 Well, thank you. 562 00:24:08,620 --> 00:24:09,965 Maybe if you have a recess week, 563 00:24:10,068 --> 00:24:12,482 and you're not going overseas, you could do it for a week. 564 00:24:12,586 --> 00:24:14,000 Well, maybe not. AL: Maybe not. 565 00:24:14,103 --> 00:24:15,000 Maybe not. 566 00:24:15,103 --> 00:24:18,068 OK, let's talk about-- 567 00:24:18,172 --> 00:24:21,862 you said this week that these charges 568 00:24:21,965 --> 00:24:25,172 or this charges in New York might actually help Trump. 569 00:24:25,275 --> 00:24:26,310 What did you mean by that? 570 00:24:26,413 --> 00:24:27,793 I think-- well, the Republicans that will 571 00:24:27,896 --> 00:24:30,862 help Trump because the Cyrus Vance 572 00:24:30,965 --> 00:24:32,793 was the previous prosecutor. 573 00:24:32,896 --> 00:24:34,827 He looked at this and said, no, thank you. 574 00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:37,344 And the US attorney looked at it and said, no, thank you. 575 00:24:37,448 --> 00:24:39,517 And this guy comes along, Alvin Bragg, 576 00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:41,482 and he's now going to prosecute Trump, 577 00:24:41,586 --> 00:24:43,068 taking a misdemeanor to a felony 578 00:24:43,172 --> 00:24:46,241 by merging two statutes that have never been used before. 579 00:24:46,344 --> 00:24:47,241 It's in New York. 580 00:24:47,344 --> 00:24:48,896 And most people in our side think 581 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,655 it's a never-ending effort to take a wrecking ball to Trump. 582 00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:53,793 So yeah, I think it'll help him. 583 00:24:53,896 --> 00:24:56,310 OK, well, let's take another state 584 00:24:56,413 --> 00:24:59,379 where there might be a wrecking ball coming for him. 585 00:24:59,482 --> 00:25:00,379 And that's in Georgia. 586 00:25:00,482 --> 00:25:01,517 Yeah, there's Georgia. 587 00:25:01,620 --> 00:25:02,655 Yeah. 588 00:25:02,758 --> 00:25:04,482 Don't know what's going to happen there. 589 00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:05,482 No. 590 00:25:05,586 --> 00:25:07,310 And you testified there. 591 00:25:07,413 --> 00:25:08,310 I testified, and I was treated well. 592 00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:09,310 So I went there. 593 00:25:09,413 --> 00:25:10,310 You know, I wanted to tell you-- 594 00:25:10,413 --> 00:25:11,413 I didn't do this. 595 00:25:11,517 --> 00:25:12,551 I wanted to say, like, Lindsey-- 596 00:25:12,655 --> 00:25:14,413 because at first you fought testifying-- 597 00:25:14,517 --> 00:25:15,862 I said, just go there, tell the truth, 598 00:25:15,965 --> 00:25:17,172 you have nothing to worry about. 599 00:25:17,275 --> 00:25:18,448 Yeah. AL: Didn't I? 600 00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:19,827 That's what they told Nixon. 601 00:25:19,931 --> 00:25:21,551 [laughter] 602 00:25:21,655 --> 00:25:24,655 Because you had talked talk to Raffensperger. 603 00:25:24,758 --> 00:25:28,965 And part of-- you know, part of this 604 00:25:29,068 --> 00:25:32,689 is he talked to Raffensperger on tape. 605 00:25:32,793 --> 00:25:33,862 We've all heard the tape. 606 00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:35,137 Yeah, he's talking to Raffensperger. 607 00:25:35,241 --> 00:25:40,724 And he said, all I need is 11,780 votes, one more 608 00:25:40,827 --> 00:25:42,793 than we have is what he said. 609 00:25:42,896 --> 00:25:46,379 And then later in the thing said, you better do this, 610 00:25:46,482 --> 00:25:47,517 you could get in trouble. 611 00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:48,862 You and your lawyer could get in trouble. 612 00:25:48,965 --> 00:25:50,862 Now, that-- that's pretty bad. 613 00:25:50,965 --> 00:25:53,241 Well, why don't we wait till it comes out, 614 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:57,379 see what Ms. Willis does with the grand jury testimony, 615 00:25:57,482 --> 00:25:59,586 if she chooses to indict him. 616 00:25:59,689 --> 00:26:01,862 And based on what she says, I'll respond. 617 00:26:01,965 --> 00:26:03,827 But New York is the one in front of us. 618 00:26:03,931 --> 00:26:05,103 And we'll deal with that one-- 619 00:26:05,206 --> 00:26:07,689 Well, we don't even know that because Trump said it, 620 00:26:07,793 --> 00:26:09,517 and it may not be true. 621 00:26:09,620 --> 00:26:12,620 Anything's possible. 622 00:26:12,724 --> 00:26:16,448 Anything's possible. 623 00:26:16,551 --> 00:26:18,172 But-- but you're right. 624 00:26:18,275 --> 00:26:21,620 I mean, OK, let's talk about this because Trump, in that 625 00:26:21,724 --> 00:26:24,655 tape, I remember said to Raffensperger, 626 00:26:24,758 --> 00:26:27,620 I won Georgia by over 400,000 votes. 627 00:26:27,724 --> 00:26:30,724 No, you know he won the election-- 628 00:26:30,827 --> 00:26:31,724 he lost the election. 629 00:26:31,827 --> 00:26:33,034 You know he lost the election. 630 00:26:33,137 --> 00:26:35,551 I voted to certify the Georgia election for Biden. 631 00:26:35,655 --> 00:26:36,586 Yes, I did. 632 00:26:36,689 --> 00:26:37,862 AL: Yeah, you voted to certify. 633 00:26:37,965 --> 00:26:41,517 Yes, I did. 634 00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:43,206 Because you would have been crazy not to. 635 00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:44,448 I mean-- 636 00:26:44,551 --> 00:26:46,724 Well, that doesn't mean I can't be in the Senate. 637 00:26:46,827 --> 00:26:48,379 Yeah, well, there were a number 638 00:26:48,482 --> 00:26:52,517 of your Republican colleagues who did not vote to certify. 639 00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:55,793 You know this election wasn't stolen. 640 00:26:55,896 --> 00:26:58,551 You know that Trump lost the election. 641 00:26:58,655 --> 00:27:01,482 No, when I see Biden, I call him Mr. President. 642 00:27:01,586 --> 00:27:03,413 AL: But that's different. 643 00:27:03,517 --> 00:27:05,275 That's different than acknowledging that-- 644 00:27:05,379 --> 00:27:06,689 Well, I voted on the floor of the Senate 645 00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:09,655 to certify the results of the 2020 election. 646 00:27:09,758 --> 00:27:13,827 And here's the question for you and maybe others. 647 00:27:13,931 --> 00:27:15,551 Trump is trying to come back. 648 00:27:15,655 --> 00:27:17,517 I think he's got a better-than-good chance 649 00:27:17,620 --> 00:27:19,586 of winning the primary and a 50/50 chance 650 00:27:19,689 --> 00:27:23,206 of being president again. 651 00:27:23,310 --> 00:27:24,448 And you got to ask yourself-- 652 00:27:24,551 --> 00:27:30,103 [laughs] now, this is what we all came here for. 653 00:27:30,206 --> 00:27:31,310 Right. 654 00:27:31,413 --> 00:27:34,620 So you've got to ask yourself, how can that be? 655 00:27:34,724 --> 00:27:37,482 Well, yes. 656 00:27:37,586 --> 00:27:38,482 But-- 657 00:27:38,586 --> 00:27:39,586 [laughs] 658 00:27:39,689 --> 00:27:41,000 Here's what I-- 659 00:27:41,103 --> 00:27:42,448 Or I can ask you to ask yourself. 660 00:27:42,551 --> 00:27:44,931 Here's what I know about this country, about this democracy, 661 00:27:45,034 --> 00:27:47,103 about our Constitution. 662 00:27:47,206 --> 00:27:52,310 The number one tradition that's meaningful in this country 663 00:27:52,413 --> 00:27:56,137 is the peaceful transition of power, right? 664 00:27:56,241 --> 00:28:02,137 [applause] 665 00:28:02,241 --> 00:28:03,172 You voted to certify. 666 00:28:03,275 --> 00:28:04,482 Mhm. 667 00:28:04,586 --> 00:28:07,655 From everything that's come out, we know 668 00:28:07,758 --> 00:28:09,689 that Lindsay Powell was lying-- 669 00:28:09,793 --> 00:28:10,724 Sidney Powell. 670 00:28:10,827 --> 00:28:11,758 Sidney, sorry. 671 00:28:11,862 --> 00:28:14,103 Sidney Powell. 672 00:28:14,206 --> 00:28:16,793 Giuliani was lying that he was told 673 00:28:16,896 --> 00:28:19,172 over and over again by his-- 674 00:28:19,275 --> 00:28:24,206 anyone who had any credibility, he lost, that there was no-- 675 00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:26,551 Bill Barr, everybody, everybody. 676 00:28:26,655 --> 00:28:31,965 How then can you want a guy who allowed 677 00:28:32,068 --> 00:28:37,206 us to go through this violent insurrection-- 678 00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:38,724 SENATOR GRAHAM: Right. 679 00:28:38,827 --> 00:28:39,724 Really? 680 00:28:39,827 --> 00:28:40,793 To be president again? 681 00:28:40,896 --> 00:28:41,758 Yeah. 682 00:28:41,862 --> 00:28:43,206 Yeah, well let me just say this. 683 00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:45,448 The other side of the story is that when President Trump was 684 00:28:45,551 --> 00:28:47,655 president, on the things that I care 685 00:28:47,758 --> 00:28:49,275 the most about, national security, 686 00:28:49,379 --> 00:28:50,827 I thought he did a damn good job. 687 00:28:50,931 --> 00:28:54,620 He got the Abraham Accords, which is probably the biggest 688 00:28:54,724 --> 00:28:57,068 change in my lifetime in the Mideast, where 689 00:28:57,172 --> 00:28:58,965 Arab nations recognize Israel. 690 00:28:59,068 --> 00:29:02,793 And we're trying to work on Saudi Arabia on Biden's watch. 691 00:29:02,896 --> 00:29:04,655 He killed Soleimani, who's a guy that should have 692 00:29:04,758 --> 00:29:05,965 been killed a long time ago. 693 00:29:06,068 --> 00:29:07,448 He secured our border. 694 00:29:07,551 --> 00:29:08,724 He made us energy independent. 695 00:29:08,827 --> 00:29:10,827 So I look at the policies of Trump, 696 00:29:10,931 --> 00:29:13,034 and I like the policies of Trump. 697 00:29:13,137 --> 00:29:15,827 And at the end of the day, he's got to prove to people, 698 00:29:15,931 --> 00:29:19,068 not me, that he's able to lead us again. 699 00:29:19,172 --> 00:29:20,793 And that will be a challenge for him. 700 00:29:20,896 --> 00:29:22,758 And t will be a challenge for Biden to say, 701 00:29:22,862 --> 00:29:24,620 give me four more years after the last four 702 00:29:24,724 --> 00:29:25,965 We'll see what happens. 703 00:29:26,068 --> 00:29:28,655 Well I think Biden wins that. 704 00:29:28,758 --> 00:29:29,689 But we don't have to say-- 705 00:29:29,793 --> 00:29:30,689 Can we bet? 706 00:29:30,793 --> 00:29:31,689 Yeah, how much? 707 00:29:31,793 --> 00:29:38,310 20 bucks. 708 00:29:38,413 --> 00:29:40,827 To be paid here. 709 00:29:40,931 --> 00:29:42,689 See, the other eight host asked me 710 00:29:42,793 --> 00:29:47,310 to come on your show they're trying to knock you out, so-- 711 00:29:47,413 --> 00:29:49,172 AL: They'll there will-- there will be a permanent host, 712 00:29:49,275 --> 00:29:50,172 and it won't be me. 713 00:29:50,275 --> 00:29:51,172 But it will be somebody. 714 00:29:51,275 --> 00:29:56,310 But, I mean, here's the thing. 715 00:29:56,413 --> 00:30:03,379 This guy just well he pardoned all these criminals. 716 00:30:04,793 --> 00:30:08,482 I mean, that's who you pardon, I guess-- 717 00:30:08,586 --> 00:30:13,689 but Manafort, Stone, Flynn. 718 00:30:13,793 --> 00:30:16,068 And he's going to populate his new administration 719 00:30:16,172 --> 00:30:17,206 with crooks if he wins. 720 00:30:17,310 --> 00:30:19,172 I'm going to give you my two cents' worth. 721 00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:21,620 It won't be about who he pardoned. 722 00:30:21,724 --> 00:30:23,758 It'll be about, can he make things 723 00:30:23,862 --> 00:30:25,448 better for the people who feel like things 724 00:30:25,551 --> 00:30:26,586 are not going well? 725 00:30:26,689 --> 00:30:28,172 Can he secure a broken border? 726 00:30:28,275 --> 00:30:29,206 Can he lower inflation? 727 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:30,172 AL: OK, let's talk about the border. 728 00:30:30,275 --> 00:30:31,172 Can he make it safe? 729 00:30:31,275 --> 00:30:32,896 Let's talk about the border. 730 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,310 You and I worked on-- you were one of the Gang of Eight 731 00:30:36,413 --> 00:30:37,586 in 2013. 732 00:30:37,689 --> 00:30:39,241 I've been in every gang you can be in, just about. 733 00:30:39,344 --> 00:30:40,275 Yeah. 734 00:30:40,379 --> 00:30:41,241 This is in 2013. 735 00:30:41,344 --> 00:30:42,275 Right. 736 00:30:42,379 --> 00:30:43,724 We passed 68-- 737 00:30:43,827 --> 00:30:47,344 with 68 votes in the Senate, comprehensive immigration-- 738 00:30:47,448 --> 00:30:48,965 Exactly right. 739 00:30:49,068 --> 00:30:51,862 Campaign reform-- comprehensive 740 00:30:51,965 --> 00:30:53,551 immigration campaign-- reform. 741 00:30:53,655 --> 00:30:55,965 And I thought that was a great bill 742 00:30:56,068 --> 00:30:56,965 SENATOR GRAHAM: I did, too. 743 00:30:57,068 --> 00:30:58,586 And I think we need that. 744 00:30:58,689 --> 00:31:02,068 I've heard you say recently, we don't have enough workers 745 00:31:02,172 --> 00:31:03,379 in this country. 746 00:31:03,482 --> 00:31:06,103 We need immigration reform because we're a declining 747 00:31:06,206 --> 00:31:08,034 population, people like me-- 748 00:31:08,137 --> 00:31:09,034 I'm not married. 749 00:31:09,137 --> 00:31:10,103 I don't have any kids. 750 00:31:10,206 --> 00:31:11,482 I'm screwing it up for the rest of you. 751 00:31:11,586 --> 00:31:14,620 So the bottom line is that we need to get a workforce 752 00:31:14,724 --> 00:31:16,000 that's more reliable. 753 00:31:16,103 --> 00:31:18,344 Let people come here, and work, and make it a win-win. 754 00:31:18,448 --> 00:31:19,827 We need to secure our border. 755 00:31:19,931 --> 00:31:23,482 We need to open up America to merit-based immigration 756 00:31:23,586 --> 00:31:24,689 from all over the world. 757 00:31:24,793 --> 00:31:26,551 And I've always believed that. 758 00:31:26,655 --> 00:31:28,137 We need to get our debt under control. 759 00:31:28,241 --> 00:31:29,965 That's going to take bipartisanship. 760 00:31:30,068 --> 00:31:31,448 But get back to the point. 761 00:31:31,551 --> 00:31:34,103 You've got to come to grips the idea lot of Americans 762 00:31:34,206 --> 00:31:36,034 believe that Trump was a good president, 763 00:31:36,137 --> 00:31:38,068 but they don't like what he did or what he said. 764 00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:42,862 And this is going to be a real contest in 2024. 765 00:31:42,965 --> 00:31:44,862 It will be a real contest, my friend. 766 00:31:44,965 --> 00:31:47,551 Well, I think the Florida governor is going 767 00:31:47,655 --> 00:31:49,000 to make it a real contest. 768 00:31:49,103 --> 00:31:52,758 No, we got a deep bench on our side. 769 00:31:52,862 --> 00:31:55,310 We have a deep bench. 770 00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:56,310 AL: And so do we. 771 00:31:56,413 --> 00:31:58,758 If you're Republican. 772 00:31:58,862 --> 00:32:00,620 I-- [stutters] 773 00:32:00,724 --> 00:32:03,000 I made him speechless. 774 00:32:03,103 --> 00:32:04,103 This is the highlight of my life. 775 00:32:04,206 --> 00:32:05,793 He's done it. He's done it. 776 00:32:05,896 --> 00:32:08,172 I just think this guy is-- 777 00:32:08,275 --> 00:32:10,034 I mean, OK, I'll say it. 778 00:32:10,137 --> 00:32:12,137 I just think he's a pathological liar. 779 00:32:12,241 --> 00:32:13,689 [laughs] 780 00:32:13,793 --> 00:32:20,586 Yeah. 781 00:32:21,724 --> 00:32:23,448 And I don't mean to be harsh, because I 782 00:32:23,551 --> 00:32:24,413 know he's your friend. 783 00:32:24,517 --> 00:32:25,448 Well-- 784 00:32:25,551 --> 00:32:30,724 And a malignant narcissist, and-- 785 00:32:30,827 --> 00:32:35,275 and he chose some good people to be in his administration 786 00:32:35,379 --> 00:32:36,379 at first. 787 00:32:36,482 --> 00:32:39,275 But it seemed like as those guys went, 788 00:32:39,379 --> 00:32:41,551 those men and women went, he brought 789 00:32:41,655 --> 00:32:43,620 in worse and worse people. 790 00:32:43,724 --> 00:32:45,827 And I just-- 791 00:32:45,931 --> 00:32:47,896 I don't know how the American people 792 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,137 are going to reelect this guy. 793 00:32:49,241 --> 00:32:52,482 And I understand the MAGA voters are still loyal. 794 00:32:52,586 --> 00:32:53,896 It's not just about MAGA voters. 795 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,241 But don't take this wrongly, he can survive your criticism. 796 00:32:58,344 --> 00:33:00,034 [laughs] He's going to be-- 797 00:33:00,137 --> 00:33:04,103 Al Franken is down on Trump is not the end of Trump. 798 00:33:04,206 --> 00:33:06,724 So here's what's going to happen. 799 00:33:06,827 --> 00:33:08,896 If Biden doesn't secure our border quickly, 800 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000 the people who took over Afghanistan 801 00:33:11,103 --> 00:33:12,482 are going to come back our way. 802 00:33:12,586 --> 00:33:14,655 We're living on borrowed time between the rise 803 00:33:14,758 --> 00:33:15,862 of radical Islam and Afghanistan 804 00:33:15,965 --> 00:33:17,137 and a completely open border. 805 00:33:17,241 --> 00:33:19,034 AL: You're saying the Taliban is going to provide 806 00:33:19,137 --> 00:33:20,034 cover for al-Qaeda-- 807 00:33:20,137 --> 00:33:21,034 I'm saying ISISK. 808 00:33:21,137 --> 00:33:22,965 That's what general Kurilla said. 809 00:33:23,068 --> 00:33:24,275 --for ISIS? 810 00:33:24,379 --> 00:33:26,689 Yes, that's what he said two days ago, three days ago. 811 00:33:26,793 --> 00:33:28,000 OK, well-- 812 00:33:28,103 --> 00:33:29,965 Small detail. 813 00:33:30,068 --> 00:33:34,517 You know, Obama started against ISIS. 814 00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:37,862 Trump-- it was finished during the Trump administration, 815 00:33:37,965 --> 00:33:40,517 although I don't like the way Trump sold out the Kurds. 816 00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:42,862 Well, we still have troops there. 817 00:33:42,965 --> 00:33:44,068 No, he wanted to get out. 818 00:33:44,172 --> 00:33:46,172 But I went and said, they'll come back, 819 00:33:46,275 --> 00:33:48,413 Mr. President-- the Kurds, the Syrian democratic forces-- 820 00:33:48,517 --> 00:33:49,413 AL: And also didn't-- 821 00:33:49,517 --> 00:33:50,620 But he left them in. 822 00:33:50,724 --> 00:33:52,103 AL: Trump wanted to leave Afghanistan sooner. 823 00:33:52,206 --> 00:33:53,931 Yeah, but he didn't. 824 00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:55,310 And Biden did. 825 00:33:55,413 --> 00:33:57,586 And I went to Biden, and I went to Blinken and Sullivan, 826 00:33:57,689 --> 00:34:00,172 and said, if you'll keep a force there, 827 00:34:00,275 --> 00:34:01,586 I'll stick with you, give you whatever 828 00:34:01,689 --> 00:34:02,896 support I can from the right. 829 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,310 But they chose poorly. 830 00:34:04,413 --> 00:34:06,724 So this election is going to be a big-deal election 831 00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:08,655 about national security, how are we 832 00:34:08,757 --> 00:34:10,620 doing here domestically, how safe are we, 833 00:34:10,724 --> 00:34:12,068 how prosperous are we. 834 00:34:12,172 --> 00:34:14,447 This whole defund-the-police stuff blew up 835 00:34:14,551 --> 00:34:16,413 in Democratic friends' face. 836 00:34:16,516 --> 00:34:18,103 And we'll see what happens in 2024. 837 00:34:18,206 --> 00:34:19,482 That was not-- 838 00:34:19,585 --> 00:34:24,275 that was not something that any percentage of Democrats 839 00:34:24,379 --> 00:34:25,447 really believed in. 840 00:34:25,551 --> 00:34:27,103 That was actually the Minneapolis City Council 841 00:34:27,206 --> 00:34:31,655 who did that after George Floyd and put out a thing that said 842 00:34:31,757 --> 00:34:32,827 "defund the police." That was-- 843 00:34:32,931 --> 00:34:34,068 SENATOR GRAHAM: I know there's nothing 844 00:34:34,172 --> 00:34:35,482 funny going on right now. 845 00:34:35,585 --> 00:34:39,310 But it is important, between me-- listen, I know you think 846 00:34:39,413 --> 00:34:41,206 Trump's horrible for the country, and a lot of people 847 00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:42,965 believe that he can fix the problems that we're 848 00:34:43,068 --> 00:34:44,000 suffering under now. 849 00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:45,931 But here's the good news. 850 00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:48,793 We'll have an election, and they will decide. 851 00:34:48,896 --> 00:34:49,793 AL: Yep. 852 00:34:49,896 --> 00:34:54,620 [applause] 853 00:34:54,724 --> 00:34:56,827 That's the way it's supposed to work. 854 00:34:56,931 --> 00:34:57,827 Yes. 855 00:34:57,931 --> 00:35:03,000 Yes. 856 00:35:03,103 --> 00:35:04,793 Lindsey Graham, everybody. 857 00:35:04,896 --> 00:35:07,931 [cheers and applause] 858 00:35:25,586 --> 00:35:29,793 That's our-- that's our show for tonight. 859 00:35:29,896 --> 00:35:33,448 But before we go, please consider supporting HIAS. 860 00:35:33,551 --> 00:35:38,034 HIAS, they are a nonprofit that provides humanitarian aid 861 00:35:38,137 --> 00:35:41,241 to Ukraine refugees, mostly women, 862 00:35:41,344 --> 00:35:42,862 children, and the elderly. 863 00:35:42,965 --> 00:35:44,896 And this helps the soldiers fighting 864 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,896 the war know that their families are 865 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,724 safe and well taken care of. 866 00:35:49,827 --> 00:35:54,655 So please, if you can, donate at the link below. 867 00:35:54,758 --> 00:35:58,241 Thank you. 868 00:35:58,344 --> 00:36:02,379 Now, here it is, your moment of zen. 869 00:36:02,482 --> 00:36:05,137 Mayor Rudy Giuliani, always amazing to see you. 870 00:36:05,241 --> 00:36:06,137 Love you. 871 00:36:06,241 --> 00:36:07,137 Sorry. 872 00:36:07,241 --> 00:36:09,344 I'm just so honored always-- 873 00:36:09,448 --> 00:36:11,241 as always, to interview you, sir. 874 00:36:11,344 --> 00:36:13,379 You were a prosecutor. 875 00:36:13,482 --> 00:36:14,758 What would you have done if somebody said, 876 00:36:14,862 --> 00:36:17,379 here's the case, prosecute this? 877 00:36:17,482 --> 00:36:19,896 Well, here's what I would have done. 878 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,620 I would have told them to go to hell. 879 00:36:21,724 --> 00:36:24,758 [audio out] I had it happen. 880 00:36:24,862 --> 00:36:26,068 REPORTER: Oh, it looks like we're having 881 00:36:26,172 --> 00:36:29,034 some audio issues there. 882 00:36:29,137 --> 00:36:33,137 [singsongy "mtv"]