1 00:00:14,748 --> 00:00:15,215 >>> I'M LESTER HOLT. 2 00:00:15,215 --> 00:00:18,118 TONIGHT ON AN ALL-NEW "DATELINE" - 3 00:00:18,118 --> 00:00:19,719 [ CRYING ] >> THERE WAS A KNOCK AT THE 4 00:00:19,719 --> 00:00:22,522 DOOR THEY SAID, "YOUR HUSBAND WAS 5 00:00:22,522 --> 00:00:24,190 MURDERED LAST NIGHT. >> I HAVE A 5-YEAR-OLD WITH HIM! 6 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:26,693 [ CRYING ] >> IS THE 5-YEAR-OLD HERE? 7 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:28,395 >> HE'S AT SCHOOL! [ CRYING ] 8 00:00:28,395 --> 00:00:31,531 >> SHE'S A POLICE OFFICER, A MOTHER OF TWO. 9 00:00:31,531 --> 00:00:35,635 SHE STARTED SHAKING, CRYING. I'LL NEVER FORGET IT 10 00:00:35,635 --> 00:00:39,172 >> SHE'S GORGEOUS, HE IS SMITTEN BY HER 11 00:00:39,172 --> 00:00:41,808 >> Reporter: THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A LOVE TRIANGLE 12 00:00:41,808 --> 00:00:43,043 >> YEAH, AND LOVE TRIANGLES JUST NEVER END WELL 13 00:00:43,043 --> 00:00:44,878 >> YOU DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY THAT WOULD WANT TO HARM HIM? 14 00:00:44,878 --> 00:00:47,147 ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO HURT YOUR HUSBAND? 15 00:00:47,147 --> 00:00:50,917 >> NO. >> THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY DARK 16 00:00:50,917 --> 00:00:54,087 GOING ON. >> DELETE YOUR [ BLEEP ] TEXTS 17 00:00:54,087 --> 00:00:55,989 >> I DO DELETE MY TEXTS. >> Reporter: YOU HAVE 18 00:00:55,989 --> 00:01:00,093 INFIDELITY, JEALOUSY, MONEY. >> THERE'S ONE OTHER THING I 19 00:01:00,093 --> 00:01:02,629 WOULD ADD, REVENGE >> RUN HER THE [ BLEEP ] OVER. 20 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:03,663 HOW ABOUT THAT >> RUN HER OVER? 21 00:01:03,663 --> 00:01:05,098 >> MY HEAD WAS SPINNING! >> PEOPLE LIE. 22 00:01:05,098 --> 00:01:08,468 PEOPLE ARE MANIPULATIVE. SOME PEOPLE ARE TRULY SICK 23 00:01:08,468 --> 00:01:09,936 * >> Reporter: NEVER HAD ANY CLUE 24 00:01:09,936 --> 00:01:24,217 WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN >> NEVER 25 00:01:24,217 --> 00:01:25,719 NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS >> HERE'S ANDREA CANNING WITH 26 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:36,096 "HIT LIST. >> Reporter: IT'S A POIGNANT AND 27 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:43,336 SAD JOURNEY FOR ANY POLICE OFFICER. 28 00:01:43,336 --> 00:01:46,106 ON A SUNNY MAY MORNING IN 2019, TWO DETECTIVES WERE IN A 29 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:48,408 CAR HEADED TO A HOME IN OCEANSIDE, NEW YORK. 30 00:01:48,408 --> 00:01:57,150 A SMALL TOWN ON LONG ISLAND, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY 31 00:01:57,150 --> 00:01:59,953 FOR THE OFFICERS INSIDE THE CAR, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A BUILDIN 32 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:10,563 SENSE OF ANXIETY FOR THE INEVITABLE MOMENT. 33 00:02:10,563 --> 00:02:14,601 THIS KNOCK >> HOW YOU DOING, MA'AM? 34 00:02:14,601 --> 00:02:16,836 IS YOUR HUSBAND ISAIAH CARVALHO? >> YEAH. 35 00:02:16,836 --> 00:02:18,972 >> OKAY. IS IT OKAY IF WE COME IN FOR A 36 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:25,345 MINUTE >> YEAH. 37 00:02:25,345 --> 00:02:29,916 >> HOW YOU DOING, SIR? IS THIS FAMILY OR -- 38 00:02:29,916 --> 00:02:32,652 >> YEAH. >> MIND HAVING A SEAT FOR ME, 39 00:02:32,652 --> 00:02:37,123 PLEASE I'M SORRY TO BE THE ONE TO TELL 40 00:02:37,123 --> 00:02:38,858 YOU THAT ISAIAH WAS FOUND DEAD THIS MORNING 41 00:02:38,858 --> 00:02:41,528 >> ARE YOU [ BLEEP ] KIDDING ME? >> Reporter: THE OFFICER 42 00:02:41,528 --> 00:02:43,096 DELIVERED TRAGIC NEWS. VALERIE CINCINELLI'S 32-YEAR-OLD 43 00:02:43,096 --> 00:02:47,300 HUSBAND ISAIAH CARVALHO WAS MURDERED 44 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:53,173 >> WAIT, I LIKE -- >> I KNOW, I'M SORRY. 45 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:55,108 >> I DON'T EVEN LIKE -- I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE YOU LIKE WHAT 46 00:02:55,108 --> 00:02:59,746 >> I'M SORRY >> I HAVE A 5-YEAR-OLD WITH HIM. 47 00:02:59,746 --> 00:03:02,048 >> IS THE 5-YEAR-OLD HERE? >> HE'S AT SCHOOL. 48 00:03:02,048 --> 00:03:08,221 >> Reporter: WHILE VALERIE'S SON WASN'T HOME, A FRIEND WAS THERE. 49 00:03:08,221 --> 00:03:10,056 HIS NAME, JOHN DiRUBBA >> THERE WAS A KNOCK AT THE 50 00:03:10,056 --> 00:03:16,796 DOOR IT WAS TWO SUFFOLK COUNTY 51 00:03:16,796 --> 00:03:19,632 DETECTIVES, AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, "WE WANT TO TELL YOU THA 52 00:03:19,632 --> 00:03:21,501 YOUR HUSBAND WAS MURDERED LAST NIGHT. 53 00:03:21,501 --> 00:03:22,569 >> WHAT'S HER REACTION >> SHE STARTED SHAKING, CRYING 54 00:03:22,569 --> 00:03:23,970 AND I WAS SITTING THERE IN THE CHAIR. 55 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:31,177 I'LL NEVER FORGET IT THE OFFICER ASKED ME TO GET HER 56 00:03:31,177 --> 00:03:34,814 TISSUES AND WATER. >> SIR, DO YOU HAVE MAYBE LIKE A 57 00:03:34,814 --> 00:03:36,416 BOX OF TISSUES YOU CAN BRING FOR MS. CINCINELLI 58 00:03:36,416 --> 00:03:39,819 >> WOULD YOU LIKE SOME WATER >> YEAH. 59 00:03:39,819 --> 00:03:47,427 >> AND I'M JUST SITTING LIKE -- LIKE IN THE CORNER AND LIKE I 60 00:03:47,427 --> 00:03:48,661 WAS LISTENING TO ALL THIS, LIKE IT WAS JUST, LIKE, A MOVIE SET 61 00:03:48,661 --> 00:03:50,230 >> I KNOW THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT TIME 62 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:53,099 >> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES TOLD VALERIE THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH 63 00:03:53,099 --> 00:03:54,834 INFORMATION TO SHARE YET LIKE WHO KILLED HER HUSBAND OR HOW IT 64 00:03:54,834 --> 00:04:00,540 HAPPENED >> THIS IS A VERY VERY EARLY 65 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:05,145 ONGOING INVESTIGATION, OKAY, AND AS I'M SURE YOU DO UNDERSTAND, 66 00:04:05,145 --> 00:04:06,813 THE MORE INFORMATION WE CAN GET SOONER, IT'S -- IT'S BETTER FOR 67 00:04:06,813 --> 00:04:07,881 YOUR HUSBAND >> SIT DOWN. 68 00:04:07,881 --> 00:04:09,315 YEAH, SIT. >> Reporter: IF ANYONE 69 00:04:09,315 --> 00:04:11,551 UNDERSTOOD THE URGENCY OF A POLICE INVESTIGATION, IT WAS 70 00:04:11,551 --> 00:04:13,787 VALERIE CINCINELLI >> THIS JUST LIKE DOESN'T FEEL 71 00:04:13,787 --> 00:04:16,356 REAL RIGHT NOW TO ME I'M SORRY, LIKE, I CAN'T REALLY 72 00:04:16,356 --> 00:04:18,191 BELIEVE THIS >> I UNDERSTAND. 73 00:04:18,191 --> 00:04:19,659 >> LIKE I'M A [ BLEEP ] COP, LIKE I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS. 74 00:04:19,659 --> 00:04:21,261 >> YOU ARE A COP >> YES 75 00:04:21,261 --> 00:04:24,164 >> WHERE IN THE CITY? 76 00:04:24,164 --> 00:04:28,702 >> YES >> VALERIE WAS A DECORATED, 77 00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:30,837 12-YEAR VETERAN OF THE NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. 78 00:04:30,837 --> 00:04:37,444 HERE SHE IS STANDING NEXT TO HER PROUD HUSBAND ISAIAH 79 00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:41,514 >> I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU AS LIKE A COP AND I - 80 00:04:41,514 --> 00:04:43,216 >> VALERIE, I DON'T NEED YOU TO BE A COP RIGHT NOW, OKAY 81 00:04:43,216 --> 00:04:44,084 YOU CAN BE A WIFE AND A MOTHER, OKAY 82 00:04:44,084 --> 00:04:46,686 BUT I DO NEED YOU TO TRY AND ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, 83 00:04:46,686 --> 00:04:50,090 YOU DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY THAT WOULD WANT TO HARM HIM 84 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:51,091 ANYONE WANT TO HURT YOUR HUSBAND? 85 00:04:51,091 --> 00:04:52,726 >> I DON'T, NO >> Reporter: VALERIE TOLD THE 86 00:04:52,726 --> 00:04:55,995 DETECTIVES HER HUSBAND OF FIVE YEARS WORKED WITH THE 87 00:04:55,995 --> 00:04:57,831 CATERPILLAR EQUIPMENT COMPANY. BUT THEN SHE HESITATED AND 88 00:04:57,831 --> 00:05:00,166 SEEMED RELUCTANT TO TELL THEM MORE 89 00:05:00,166 --> 00:05:04,237 >> DOES HE HAVE ANY FINANCIAL PROBLEMS 90 00:05:04,237 --> 00:05:08,808 NO DRUGS, ALCOHOL, GAMBLING DEBTS? 91 00:05:08,808 --> 00:05:13,346 ANYTHING LIKE THAT >> I MEAN, I KNOW -- THE ONLY 92 00:05:13,346 --> 00:05:15,181 THING I KNOW, BUT IT'S LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO -- I DON'T WANNA 93 00:05:15,181 --> 00:05:18,451 LIKE GET - >> ISAIAH CAN'T GET IN ANY 94 00:05:18,451 --> 00:05:23,556 TROUBLE, OKAY? >> OKAY, OKAY, SO I -- 95 00:05:23,556 --> 00:05:25,492 >> I'M SORRY TO SAY IT THAT WAY BUT YOU CAN ONLY HELP US HELP 96 00:05:25,492 --> 00:05:29,596 HIM AND HELP YOUR FAMILY >> Reporter: VALERIE THEN TOLD 97 00:05:29,596 --> 00:05:31,398 THE DETECTIVES ISAIAH HAD A SIDE BUSINESS SELLING FIREWORKS, A 98 00:05:31,398 --> 00:05:32,799 CASH OPERATION >> HAS HE EVER MENTIONED, LIKE 99 00:05:32,799 --> 00:05:34,467 DID HE SCREW OVER A CUSTOMER, OR WAS SOMEONE MAD AT HIM BECAUSE 100 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:42,208 OF THE FIREWORKS >> NO, NO. 101 00:05:42,208 --> 00:05:43,343 >> Reporter: AS THE QUESTIONING CONTINUED, VALERIE 102 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:44,611 YNDERSTANDABLY SEEMED TO HAVE A HARD TIME ACCEPTING THAT ISAIAH 103 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:47,347 WAS DEAD >> ARE YOU, LIKE, SURE LIKE HE'S 104 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:48,748 NOT AT THE HOSPITAL OR SOMETHING LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 105 00:05:48,748 --> 00:05:54,387 >> MA'AM, VALERIE, YOU KNOW WE WOULDN'T SHOW UP AND KNOCK ON 106 00:05:54,387 --> 00:05:56,756 ANYBODY'S DOOR WITHOUT BEING 100%, OKAY, CRIME SCENE'S THERE, 107 00:05:56,756 --> 00:06:00,694 THE MEDICAL EXAMINER IS THERE. >> Reporter: THE CRIME SCENE WAS 108 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:02,128 50 MILES AWAY IN THIS MARINA PARKING LOT NEAR SHIRLEY, NEW 109 00:06:02,128 --> 00:06:06,399 YORK AN ISOLATED SPOT ON THE COAST OF 110 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:10,637 LONG ISLAND HUGGING THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. 111 00:06:10,637 --> 00:06:15,041 HERE, LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOK THIS GRIM PHOTO OF ISAIAH 112 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:17,177 IT APPEARED HE'D BEEN SHOT AS HE WAS TRYING TO GET OUT OF HIS 113 00:06:17,177 --> 00:06:20,413 CAR. BACK AT VALERIE'S HOUSE, THE 114 00:06:20,413 --> 00:06:22,449 DETECTIVES' JOB WAS COMPLETE >> THEN THEY GOT ALL THE 115 00:06:22,449 --> 00:06:28,288 INFORMATION, THINGS LIKE THAT FROM HER 116 00:06:28,288 --> 00:06:29,756 AND THEY SAID, "ALL RIGHT, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH" AND THEY LEFT 117 00:06:29,756 --> 00:06:36,162 >> Reporter: THERE WAS SOMETHING LEFT BEHIND. 118 00:06:36,162 --> 00:06:37,731 SECRETS, SO MANY SECRETS BUT THEY'D ALL EVENTUALLY SPILL 119 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:47,307 OUT. >> WHEN WE COME BACK - 120 00:06:47,307 --> 00:06:50,143 >> I WAS ANGRY AS COULD BE I FELT SO MANY EMOTIONS THAT I'D 121 00:06:50,143 --> 00:06:57,517 NEVER FELT BEFORE. >> A FORMER DETECTIVE WEIGHS IN 122 00:06:57,517 --> 00:07:00,020 ON THE CASE, ISAIAH'S STEPDAD. >> WHAT WOULD BE YOUR FIRST 123 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:01,855 INSTINCT LOOKING AT THAT PHOTO >> IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY WAS 124 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:20,674 AFTER THAT PERSON. >> Reporter: VALERIE CINCINELLI 125 00:07:20,674 --> 00:07:26,780 HAD JUST BEEN TOLD HER HUSBAND WAS MURDERED AND THAT IT 126 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:28,314 HAPPENED IN A MARINA PARKING LOT NEAR SHIRLEY, NEW YORK, A QUAINT 127 00:07:28,314 --> 00:07:35,055 BEACH COMMUNITY ON LONG ISLAND IT WAS JUST A FEW MILES AWAY 128 00:07:35,055 --> 00:07:36,423 FROM WHERE ISAIAH'S MOM AND STEPDAD LIVED. 129 00:07:36,423 --> 00:07:39,659 >> WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW 130 00:07:39,659 --> 00:07:41,061 >> Reporter: ISAIAH'S MOM MARY ANN AND HIS STEPDAD PATRICK 131 00:07:41,061 --> 00:07:43,196 ROACH SHUDDER WHEN THEY THINK BACK TO THAT SPRING DAY WHEN 132 00:07:43,196 --> 00:07:49,636 EVERYTHING CHANGED >> I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE MARINA 133 00:07:49,636 --> 00:07:53,106 SINCE THAT HAPPENED THAT DAY SO THE OTHER DAY WE WENT OVER TO 134 00:07:53,106 --> 00:07:57,410 THE MARINA, AND AS SOON AS WE PULLED IN, LIKE, MY STOMACH 135 00:07:57,410 --> 00:07:59,112 DROPPED. >> Reporter: BUT WHAT DID 136 00:07:59,112 --> 00:08:01,715 HAPPEN SO MUCH WAS UNKNOWN IN THE 137 00:08:01,715 --> 00:08:07,754 BEGINNING. THAT WAS ESPECIALLY HARD FOR 138 00:08:07,754 --> 00:08:14,928 46 ISAIAH'S STEPDAD BECAUSE 139 00:08:14,928 --> 00:08:17,197 FOR 27 YEARS PATRICK HAD ALSO BEEN AN OFFICER WITH THE NYPD. 140 00:08:17,197 --> 00:08:18,365 NOW RETIRED, HE SOMETIMES WORKED HOMICIDE CASES DURING HIS 141 00:08:18,365 --> 00:08:19,599 27 YEARS ON THE FORCE. >> Reporter: WHAT WOULD BE YOUR 142 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:21,301 FIRST INSTINCT LOOKING AT THAT PHOTO? 143 00:08:21,301 --> 00:08:22,369 WHAT DO YOU THINK AS A FORMER DETECTIVE? 144 00:08:22,369 --> 00:08:27,574 >> IF IT WASN'T MY SON AND ANOTHER DETECTIVE SHOWED ME THE 145 00:08:27,574 --> 00:08:30,944 PHOTO, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY WAS AFTER THAT PERSON, KNEW THAT 146 00:08:30,944 --> 00:08:34,147 PERSON, CONSIDERING WHERE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PARKED IN THE 147 00:08:34,147 --> 00:08:37,550 MIDDLE OF KIND OF NOWHERE. >> Reporter: AND EVER SINCE THAT 148 00:08:37,550 --> 00:08:38,885 DAY, ISAIAH'S PARENTS SAY THEY'VE BEEN ON A ROLLER COASTER 149 00:08:38,885 --> 00:08:40,320 OF EMOTIONS. >> I WAS ANGRY AS COULD BE 150 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,592 I WAS UPSET AS -- I MEAN, I FELT SO MANY EMOTIONS THAT I'VE NEVER 151 00:08:45,592 --> 00:08:50,163 FELT BEFORE. >> Reporter: ISAIAH WAS YOUNG 152 00:08:50,163 --> 00:08:52,565 WHEN HIS PARENTS DIVORCED. HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS MOM 153 00:08:52,565 --> 00:08:55,068 BECAME ESPECIALLY TIGHT, AND HE WOULD SHARE EVERYTHING WITH HER, 154 00:08:55,068 --> 00:08:57,437 SOMETIMES TOO MUCH SO HE IS A MOMMA'S BOY 155 00:08:57,437 --> 00:09:02,575 >> OH, YES >> YEAH, LIKE EVERYBODY SAYS THE 156 00:09:02,575 --> 00:09:04,277 UMBILICAL CORD WAS NOT CUT BECAUSE -- 157 00:09:04,277 --> 00:09:09,015 >> Reporter: I'VE NEVER HEARD IT THAT WAY BEFORE. 158 00:09:09,015 --> 00:09:10,550 BUT YOU SECRETLY LIKE THAT >> OH, MY GOSH, YEAH 159 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:13,586 OF COURSE. WHAT MOTHER WOULDN'T 160 00:09:13,586 --> 00:09:15,522 >> Reporter: MARY ANN WAS RAISING ISAIAH AND HIS SISTER 161 00:09:15,522 --> 00:09:20,026 WHEN SHE MET PATRICK AFTER THEY MARRIED, THEY HAD A 162 00:09:20,026 --> 00:09:23,029 SON TOGETHER MAKING IT A BLENDED FAMILY OF FIVE 163 00:09:23,029 --> 00:09:25,432 AND AS ISAIAH GOT OLDER, HE DREAMED OF THE DAY HE WOULD HAVE 164 00:09:25,432 --> 00:09:27,500 HIS OWN FAMILY >> Reporter: HE WANTED TO GET 165 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:28,735 MARRIED. HE WANTED -- 166 00:09:28,735 --> 00:09:31,304 >> YES >> Reporter: -- TO HAVE 167 00:09:31,304 --> 00:09:33,373 CHILDREN >> YES, HE DID 168 00:09:33,373 --> 00:09:35,308 THAT'S JUST HOW I -- I RAISED THEM, LIKE EVEN THE OTHER TWO 169 00:09:35,308 --> 00:09:38,078 WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING, THEY WANT TO HAVE A FAMILY 170 00:09:38,078 --> 00:09:42,649 THEY WANT THE KIDS THEY WANT THE HOUSE. 171 00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:44,651 >> Reporter: BY 2010 ISAIAH WAS 24, HE HADN'T YET STARTED A 172 00:09:44,651 --> 00:09:50,657 FAMILY, BUT THAT WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE 173 00:09:50,657 --> 00:09:53,393 ISAIAH'S STEPDAD WAS WORKING AT THE 106th PRECINCT IN QUEENS 174 00:09:53,393 --> 00:09:58,098 WHEN A FEMALE COLLEAGUE WALKED INTO HIS OFFICE. 175 00:09:58,098 --> 00:10:00,567 >> SHE SAW A PICTURE ON MY DESK OF ISAIAH, AND SHE GOES, "WHO'S 176 00:10:00,567 --> 00:10:02,002 THAT?" AND I SAID, "OH, MY -- THAT'S MY 177 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:03,670 SON. SHE GOES, "OH, IS HE SINGLE? 178 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:05,305 I SAID, "YEAH. AND I'M SITTING THERE THINKING, 179 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:06,606 "OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT - >> Reporter: SHE'S OBVIOUSLY 180 00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:11,011 TAKEN AN IMMEDIATE - >> YEAH. 181 00:10:11,011 --> 00:10:12,712 >> Reporter: LIKE -- >> SHE URNED AROUND AND SHE 182 00:10:12,712 --> 00:10:14,147 GOES, "OH. SHE GOES, "HOOK A GIRL UP. 183 00:10:14,147 --> 00:10:15,482 SO I TURN AROUND I JUST - 184 00:10:15,482 --> 00:10:16,783 >> Reporter: WOW BOLD 185 00:10:16,783 --> 00:10:18,351 >> I DID -- OH, YEAH I JUST, KIND OF, LAUGHED IT OFF. 186 00:10:18,351 --> 00:10:19,386 >> Reporter: IT WAS OFFICER VALERIE CINCINELLI 187 00:10:19,386 --> 00:10:23,456 DO YOU TELL ISAIAH >> YEAH. 188 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:24,724 AND HE GOES, "WELL, WHAT DOES SHE LOOK LIKE? 189 00:10:24,724 --> 00:10:25,892 I'M LIKE, "A PRETTY GIRL." I'M LIKE, "SHE SEEMS NICE. 190 00:10:25,892 --> 00:10:27,193 I'M LIKE, "I'VE KNOWN HER A FEW TIMES. 191 00:10:27,193 --> 00:10:29,396 HE'S LIKE, "OH." HE GOES, "HOOK ME UP." 192 00:10:29,396 --> 00:10:31,197 SO - >> Reporter: WE'VE GOT TWO, 193 00:10:31,197 --> 00:10:37,103 "HOOK ME UP" NOW, OKAY >> YEAH. 194 00:10:37,103 --> 00:10:43,743 SO I'VE GOT THE TWO OF THEM GOING, "HOOK ME UP." 195 00:10:43,743 --> 00:10:46,079 AND THE TWO OF THEM JUST KIND OF -- THEY TOOK THAT FROM 196 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:48,081 THERE. >> Reporter: VALERIE WORKED IN 197 00:10:48,081 --> 00:10:50,417 THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE UNIT AT THE 106th HELPING PEOPLE I 198 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:51,451 ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS. AND BACK AT HOME, AS ISAIAH 199 00:10:51,451 --> 00:10:53,119 WOULD QUICKLY LEARN, THERE WAS ALREADY SOMEONE SPECIAL IN HER 200 00:10:53,119 --> 00:10:54,421 LIFE SO WHAT DOES HE TELL YOU AFTER 201 00:10:54,421 --> 00:10:55,889 HIS FIRST DATE >> SO HE TELLS ME ABOUT HER AND 202 00:10:55,889 --> 00:11:03,263 HE SAYS THAT SHE'S A SINGLE MOM, THAT SHE HAS A LITTLE GIRL 203 00:11:03,263 --> 00:11:04,464 THAT'S 2 YEARS OLD HE MET THE LITTLE GIRL AND SHE'S 204 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:05,765 ADORABLE AND THIS WAS RIGHT BEFORE 205 00:11:05,765 --> 00:11:07,400 EASTER AND HE TURNED AROUND AND SAID, 206 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,501 "WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I INVITE THEM FOR EASTER DINNER?" 207 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:09,402 >> Reporter: AFTER THE FIRST DATE 208 00:11:09,402 --> 00:11:10,637 >> AND I'M LIKE, "SURE," YOU KNOW 209 00:11:10,637 --> 00:11:12,272 >> Reporter: HOW DID THAT GO >> THAT WAS AMAZING. 210 00:11:12,272 --> 00:11:14,441 THE LITTLE GIRL CAME IN THE HOUSE. 211 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:18,078 CUTEST LITTLE THING, TOOK TO US LIKE AS IF SHE KNEW US FOR, 212 00:11:18,078 --> 00:11:20,613 LIKE, THE LONGEST TIME >> Reporter: AND ISAIAH TOOK TO 213 00:11:20,613 --> 00:11:33,593 BOTH THE DAUGHTER AND VALERIE JUST AS FAST 214 00:11:33,593 --> 00:11:35,128 >> HE'S LIKE, "MA, I LOVE HER. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS 215 00:11:35,128 --> 00:11:39,099 IS THE ONE I REALLY THINK THAT THIS COULD 216 00:11:39,099 --> 00:11:41,234 BE IT. AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, JUST - 217 00:11:41,234 --> 00:11:42,702 YOU KNOW, "ISAIAH, YOU'VE JUST GOT TO TAKE IT SLOW, THOUGH, 218 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:44,170 'CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW. AND HE'S LIKE, "NO, NO, I REALLY 219 00:11:44,170 --> 00:11:46,806 LOVE HER." >> Reporter: FOUR YEARS AFTER 220 00:11:46,806 --> 00:11:48,108 THAT SWEET SETUP, THEY WER MARRIED. 221 00:11:48,108 --> 00:11:49,876 PHOTOS SHOW THE HAPPY COUPLE AT THEIR WEDDING. 222 00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:51,478 THEY HAD A SON TOGETHER, SAL, FINALLY FULFILLING ONE OF 223 00:11:51,478 --> 00:11:54,314 ISAIAH'S DREAMS. HOW JUST ELATED WAS ISAIAH TO 224 00:11:54,314 --> 00:11:56,683 HAVE A SON >> OH, MY GOODNESS 225 00:11:56,683 --> 00:11:59,586 >> WOW >> HE WAS SO - 226 00:11:59,586 --> 00:12:01,488 >> HE'S -- HE -- >> HE WAS THE HAPPIEST PERSON 227 00:12:01,488 --> 00:12:03,823 EVER >> ABSOLUTELY. 228 00:12:03,823 --> 00:12:06,459 TO THE MOON AND BACK WITH HIM. A THOUSAND TIMES OVER AND OVER 229 00:12:06,459 --> 00:12:09,062 AGAIN. >> Reporter: FOR ISAIAH, IT WAS 230 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:11,865 ONLY THE BEGINNING OF HIS PLANS FOR MORE KIDS IN THE FUTURE. 231 00:12:11,865 --> 00:12:13,900 WAS IT SMOOTH SAILING ONCE THEY WERE HUSBAND AND WIFE? 232 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:19,506 >> SMOOTH SAILING? NO 233 00:12:19,506 --> 00:12:21,107 I MEAN, THERE WERE TIMES WHERE THEY WERE VERY HAPPY, AND THEN 234 00:12:21,107 --> 00:12:22,242 THERE WERE TIMES WHERE THEY WERE AT EACH OTHER'S THROATS. 235 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:26,746 I MEAN, I GUESS LIKE ANY OTHER MARRIED COUPLE 236 00:12:26,746 --> 00:12:31,284 >> Reporter: WELL, AS YOU'LL SEE, NOT EXACTLY LIKE ANY OTHER 237 00:12:31,284 --> 00:12:39,526 MARRIED COUPLE, AND THAT BRINGS US BACK TO JOHN DiRUBBA. 238 00:12:39,526 --> 00:12:40,894 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: HE WAS IN VALERIE'S 239 00:12:40,894 --> 00:12:42,395 HOUSE WHEN THE POLICE TOLD HER ISAIAH WAS DEAD. 240 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:43,797 >> MIND HAVING A SEAT FOR ME PLEASE 241 00:12:43,797 --> 00:12:45,198 >> Reporter: HE WAS ABOUT TO BECOME THE CENTRAL FIGURE IN A 242 00:12:45,198 --> 00:12:50,970 STORY THAT WOULD SEEM LIKE A SOAP OPERA IF IT WEREN'T TRUE. 243 00:12:50,970 --> 00:12:55,108 >>> COMING UP -- >> SHE IS ABSOLUTELY THE POSTER 244 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:59,913 CHILD FOR YOUR MODERN-DAY FEMALE OFFICER. 245 00:12:59,913 --> 00:13:02,248 >> THE WOMAN ADMIRED FOR HER BRAVERY MEETS AN ADMIRER OF A 246 00:13:02,248 --> 00:13:04,351 DIFFERENT SORT >> I STARTED TO JOKE AROUND WITH 247 00:13:04,351 --> 00:13:07,220 HER. "ARE YOU SINGLE? 248 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,322 AND SHE SAYS, "NO, I'M MARRIED." AND THEN HER PARTNER LEANED OVER 249 00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:27,841 AND HE'S LIKE, "WELL, SHE'S NOT HAPPILY MARRIED. 250 00:13:27,841 --> 00:13:29,909 >> THAT'S NEAR THE AREA WHERE -- WHERE HE WAS FOUND 251 00:13:29,909 --> 00:13:34,714 >> Reporter: VALERIE CINCINELLI WAS HAVING A HARD TIME GRASPING 252 00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:37,450 WHAT POLICE OFFICERS WERE SAYING, HER HUSBAND WAS DEAD 253 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:41,354 >> LIKE THIS JUST LIKE DOESN'T FEEL REAL RIGHT NOW TO ME, I'M 254 00:13:41,354 --> 00:13:42,822 SORRY LIKE I CAN'T REALLY BELIEVE THIS 255 00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:46,126 >> WHAT WERE YOUR FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF THIS CASE WHEN 256 00:13:46,126 --> 00:13:51,164 YOU HEARD ABOUT IT >> THE MORE I DUG, THE MORE I 257 00:13:51,164 --> 00:13:53,266 SAW THAT IT JUST GOT WORSE AND BIGGER AND MORE COMPLICATED AND 258 00:13:53,266 --> 00:13:56,569 OUTRAGEOUS >> Reporter: JOURNALIST ANA 259 00:13:56,569 --> 00:13:59,305 GARCIA COVERED THE CASE FOR HER PODCAST, "TRUE CRIME DAILY." 260 00:13:59,305 --> 00:14:04,511 SHE SAYS THE FACTS THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY COME OUT WOULD BE 261 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:06,212 EXPLOSIVE. >> IF YOU WROTE THIS, SOMEONE IN 262 00:14:06,212 --> 00:14:07,747 HOLLYWOOD WOULD SAY, "OH YEAH, THAT'S JUST NOT BELIEVABLE." 263 00:14:07,747 --> 00:14:13,053 THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO OUTRAGEOUS 264 00:14:13,053 --> 00:14:16,056 >> Reporter: TO UNDERSTAND THIS CASE WE NEED TO TAKE YOU BACK TO 265 00:14:16,056 --> 00:14:20,060 WHEN VALERIE WAS A LITTLE GIRL GROWING UP ON LONG ISLAND. 266 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:24,164 >> IN MANY WAYS VALERIE HAD A VERY TYPICAL UPBRINGING -- ONE 267 00:14:24,164 --> 00:14:27,067 OF FIVE KIDS, YOU KNOW, GREW UP IN A VERY SUPPORTIVE FAMILY. 268 00:14:27,067 --> 00:14:29,436 YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WOMAN WHO HAD A GOAL HER WHOLE LIFE -- TO 269 00:14:29,436 --> 00:14:31,938 BE A COP. SHE WAS BORN INTO A FAMILY OF 270 00:14:31,938 --> 00:14:38,545 COPS HER FATHER WAS A DECORATED COP, 271 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:41,281 HER BROTHER AN FBI AGENT >> Reporter: BUT ON THAT DAY 272 00:14:41,281 --> 00:14:44,551 WHEN DETECTIVES CAME TO HER HOME, SHE WASN'T A WOMAN IN BLUE 273 00:14:44,551 --> 00:14:49,856 BUT A MOM WHO NOW HAD TO FACE HER CHILDREN 274 00:14:49,856 --> 00:14:51,825 >> I HAVE TO PICK UP MY KIDS - >> Reporter: REMEMBER, VALERIE 275 00:14:51,825 --> 00:14:55,895 HAD TWO KIDS WHO ON THAT DAY WERE IN SCHOOL 276 00:14:55,895 --> 00:15:02,202 HER 10-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND THE 5-YEAR-OLD SON SHE HAD WITH 277 00:15:02,202 --> 00:15:03,903 ISAIAH >> I CAN'T TELL HIM HIS DAD -- 278 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:05,372 LIKE THERE'S NO WAY I CAN DO IT. >> Reporter: SHE KNEW HER SON 279 00:15:05,372 --> 00:15:12,779 WOULD BE DEVASTATED. >> YOUR SON IS FINE AND HE 280 00:15:12,779 --> 00:15:19,119 46 DOESN'T KNOW RIGHT NOW. 281 00:15:19,119 --> 00:15:20,687 LET'S TRY TO GET -- >> I KNOW, BUT I LOST MY MOM AND 282 00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:22,055 LIKE I KNOW HOW BAD IT IS. I CAN'T, I CAN'T 283 00:15:22,055 --> 00:15:23,256 >> Reporter: VALERIE WAS JUST 18 WHEN HER MOM SUDDENLY DIED IN 284 00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:25,191 HER SLEEP. >> IT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED HER 285 00:15:25,191 --> 00:15:30,630 FAMILY, AND IT CHANGED HER SHE HAD TO CHANGE HER ROLE 286 00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:32,232 WHILE SHE CONTINUED WITH SCHOOL, SHE KIND OF HAD TO STEP INTO THE 287 00:15:32,232 --> 00:15:33,967 ROLE OF MOTHER TO HELP HER BROTHERS AND HER SISTER. 288 00:15:33,967 --> 00:15:37,303 >> Reporter: A HERO AT HOME WHO LATER BECAME A HERO IN HER 289 00:15:37,303 --> 00:15:40,173 COMMUNITY. IN 2017, SHE CAUGHT THIS BANK 290 00:15:40,173 --> 00:15:46,680 ROBBER RED-HANDED AS HE TRIED TO FLEE 291 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,947 >> SHE RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR HER BRAVERY INVOLVING A BANK 292 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:53,787 ROBBERY. >> IN FACT, THERE'S VIDEO OF 293 00:15:53,787 --> 00:15:55,522 HER, SHE'S PUSHING THIS GUY AROUND, SHE'S PETITE BUT SHE'S 294 00:15:55,522 --> 00:15:57,424 TOUGH. SHE'S CHEWING GUM REALLY 295 00:15:57,424 --> 00:16:02,462 FIERCELY I MEAN, SHE'S SUCH A BADASS. 296 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:03,897 >> VALERIE COULD REALLY BE THE POSTER CHILD FOR NYPD 297 00:16:03,897 --> 00:16:06,533 RECRUITMENT. >> YOU'VE GOT A WOMAN WHO IS 298 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:10,537 FIT, SHE'S AN ATHLETE. SHE IS TOUGH AS NAILS. 299 00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:18,578 SHE'S ATTRACTIVE, HARD WORKING, A MOTHER 300 00:16:18,578 --> 00:16:20,613 I MEAN, SHE IS ABSOLUTELY THE POSTER CHILD FOR YOUR MODERN-DAY 301 00:16:20,613 --> 00:16:24,317 FEMALE OFFICER >> Reporter: VALERIE NOT ONLY 302 00:16:24,317 --> 00:16:26,753 SERVED THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK CITY, IN 2016 SHE WAS NAMED 303 00:16:26,753 --> 00:16:34,127 "SOLDIER OF THE YEAR" WITH A VOLUNTEER UNIT THAT ASSISTS THE 304 00:16:34,127 --> 00:16:35,762 NATIONAL GUARD IN EMERGENCIES. LOOKING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE, 305 00:16:35,762 --> 00:16:40,800 VALERIE SEEMED TO HAVE EVERYTHING GOING FOR HER 306 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,870 BUT AS MOST OF US KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS CAN 307 00:16:43,870 --> 00:16:48,908 BE ANOTHER STORY AND ONE PERSON WHO KNOWS A LOT 308 00:16:48,908 --> 00:16:50,477 ABOUT THAT STORY IS JOHN DiRUBBA. 309 00:16:50,477 --> 00:16:51,811 >> SO TELL ME ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD 310 00:16:51,811 --> 00:16:53,346 >> IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS EACH 311 00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:56,316 OTHER. MOSTLY ITALIANS IN HERE. 312 00:16:56,316 --> 00:17:01,588 >> Reporter: JOHN LIVES IN HOWARD BEACH, A SMALL COMMUNITY 313 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:05,058 IN QUEENS ON JAMAICA BAY, RIGHT NEXT TO JFK AIRPORT. 314 00:17:05,058 --> 00:17:13,066 IT'S ALSO HOME TO THE 106th PRECINCT WHERE VALERIE AND 315 00:17:13,066 --> 00:17:14,267 ISAIAH'S STEPDAD WORKED. >> YOU HAVE, SORT OF AN INFAMOUS 316 00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:15,468 FORMER FAMOUS NEIGHBOR >> YEP 317 00:17:15,468 --> 00:17:17,037 JOHN GOTTI >> Reporter: JOHN NEVER 318 00:17:17,037 --> 00:17:18,772 PERSONALLY KNEW THE MOBSTER BUT ALWAYS LOVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD 319 00:17:18,772 --> 00:17:22,075 AND MOVED HERE IN 2011 TO BE NEAR FAMILY. 320 00:17:22,075 --> 00:17:24,577 IT'S ALSO WHERE HE RAISED HIS TEENAGE DAUGHTER AS A DIVORCED 321 00:17:24,577 --> 00:17:28,048 DAD. >> YOU WERE OUT HERE ONE DAY 322 00:17:28,048 --> 00:17:32,585 JUST WASHING YOUR CAR LIKE ANY OTHER DAY AND WHAT HAPPENED? 323 00:17:32,585 --> 00:17:37,257 >> A PATROL CAR PULLED UP. A GIRL ROLLED DOWN THE WINDOW 324 00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:38,625 AND IT WAS A POLICE OFFICER AND I SAID, "OH, HI. 325 00:17:38,625 --> 00:17:40,160 CAN I HELP YOU?" AND SHE'S LIKE, "OH, NO. I JUST 326 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,861 WANTED TO STOP BY AND SAY HELLO. 327 00:17:41,861 --> 00:17:46,066 >> Reporter: THE PATROL OFFICER WAS VALERIE CINCINELLI 328 00:17:46,066 --> 00:17:50,136 IT WAS JANUARY 2017 MORE THAN TWO YEARS BEFORE THOSE 329 00:17:50,136 --> 00:17:52,405 DETECTIVES KNOCKED ON HER DOOR NOW, OUT THERE ON THE STREET IN 330 00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:58,078 FRONT OF HIS HOUSE, JOHN SAYS THERE WAS SOME FRIENDLY SMALL 331 00:17:58,078 --> 00:17:59,479 TALK WITH THE LOCAL COP THEN HE DECIDED TO ASK A BOLD QUESTION 332 00:17:59,479 --> 00:18:03,316 >> THEN I STARTED JOKING AROUND WITH HER 333 00:18:03,316 --> 00:18:06,920 "ARE YOU SINGLE? AND SHE SAYS, "NO. 334 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,221 I'M NOT SINGLE I'M MARRIED. 335 00:18:08,221 --> 00:18:09,556 AND THEN HER PARTNER LEANED OVER AND HE'S LIKE, "WELL, SHE'S NOT 336 00:18:09,556 --> 00:18:10,757 HAPPILY MARRIED. >> WOW 337 00:18:10,757 --> 00:18:15,862 THIS IS ALL HAPPENING FROM ONE -- 338 00:18:15,862 --> 00:18:20,633 >> ONE - >> -- QUICK ENCOUNTER WHILE 339 00:18:20,633 --> 00:18:24,704 YOU'RE WASHING YOUR CAR. >> WITHIN TEN MINUTES. 340 00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:26,039 >> WHAT? WAS, LIKE, YOUR SHIRT OFF OR 341 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:29,275 SOMETHING? >> NO. 342 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:30,477 >> WHY WAS SHE SO INSTANTLY -- >> NO. 343 00:18:30,477 --> 00:18:32,045 SHE JUST STOPPED AND SAID, "HELLO." 344 00:18:32,045 --> 00:18:33,813 >> ENAMORED BY YOU >> WELL, I-- I DON'T KNOW. 345 00:18:33,813 --> 00:18:35,281 MAYBE MY BALD HEAD I DON'T KNOW 346 00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:40,120 >> WHAT WAS THE AGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU GUYS 347 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:42,756 >> I WAS IN MY EARLY 50s AND SHE WAS IN HER EARLY 30s 348 00:18:42,756 --> 00:18:44,190 >> SO ABOUT 20 YEARS DID THAT SEEM LIKE A LOT TO YOU? 349 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:46,393 >> NOT REALLY. I JUST-- YOU KNOW, AGE IS JUST A 350 00:18:46,393 --> 00:18:50,063 NUMBER TO ME YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET ALONG WITH 351 00:18:50,063 --> 00:18:51,164 SOMEBODY AND YOU'RE -- AND YOU'RE HAPPY AND YOU HIT IT OFF, 352 00:18:51,164 --> 00:18:52,599 THAT'S ALL THAT COUNTS >> Reporter: SO DESPITE THE FACT 353 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,100 THAT SHE WAS A MARRIED WOMAN ON THE SPOT JOHN WENT FOR IT AGAIN 354 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:57,070 AND ASKED VALERIE FOR HER PHONE NUMBER 355 00:18:57,070 --> 00:19:00,240 >> SHE SAYS, "I CAN'T. I'M GOING THROUGH A BAD 356 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,474 DIVORCE. AND SO I SAID, "DO YOU HAVE 357 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:03,209 INSTAGRAM? YOU KNOW 358 00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:05,011 SHE SAID, "ALL RIGHT I'VE GIVE YOU MY INSTAGRAM 359 00:19:05,011 --> 00:19:08,148 ACCOUNT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SHE DROVE 360 00:19:08,148 --> 00:19:09,783 OFF AND AND LEFT FOR THE DAY >> NEVER HAD ANY CLUE WHAT WAS 361 00:19:09,783 --> 00:19:10,850 ABOUT TO HAPPEN? >> NEVER 362 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:12,318 NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS. NEVER. >> COMING UP - 363 00:19:12,318 --> 00:19:15,789 >> SHE WOULD CALL ME DAY AND NIGHT, SEND ME PICTURES. 364 00:19:15,789 --> 00:19:17,090 I MISS YOU I LOVE YOU. 365 00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:20,860 >> THIS IS WHILE SHE'S ON VACATION WITH HER HUSBAND? 366 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:22,028 >> ON VACATION WITH HER HUSBAND >> A SUDDEN, SECRET AFFAIR 367 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:23,363 >> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU FELL QUICKLY FOR HER. 368 00:19:23,363 --> 00:19:24,664 >> YEAH. I THINK IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST 369 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:28,868 SIGHT. >> LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT 370 00:19:28,868 --> 00:19:32,038 REALLY >> JUST CUT. 371 00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:45,251 >> I'M SORRY THIS REALLY HITS YOU 372 00:19:45,618 --> 00:19:46,252 IT WAS A CHANCE 373 00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:48,054 ENCOUNTER ON A QUEEN'S, NEW YORK 374 00:19:48,088 --> 00:19:48,621 STREET... 375 00:19:49,255 --> 00:19:50,457 RIGHT DOWN THE BLOCK IS THE 376 00:19:50,557 --> 00:19:50,924 OCEAN... 377 00:19:51,591 --> 00:19:53,093 JOHN DIRUBBA - A SINGLE DAD - 378 00:19:53,193 --> 00:19:54,461 WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WHEN 379 00:19:54,561 --> 00:19:56,062 MARRIED POLICE OFFICER VALERIE 380 00:19:56,162 --> 00:19:57,731 CINCINELLI SAID HE COULD CONTACT 381 00:19:57,831 --> 00:19:58,465 HER ON INSTAGRAM. 382 00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:01,201 BUT WHAT SHE SAID NEXT WAS MORE 383 00:20:01,301 --> 00:20:02,202 THAN A LITTLE JARRING. 384 00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:03,236 SO THEN SHE GAVE ME HER 385 00:20:03,336 --> 00:20:04,904 INSTAGRAM. SHE SAYS, "LOOK ME 386 00:20:05,005 --> 00:20:06,006 UP. IT'S CALLED HOMICIDAL 387 00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:07,640 HANDS." (LAUGH) SO I WAS, LIKE, 388 00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:09,776 "HOMICIDAL HANDS?" "THAT'S, YOU 389 00:20:09,876 --> 00:20:11,411 KNOW, UNUSUAL FOR A POLICE 390 00:20:11,511 --> 00:20:12,746 OFFICER TO HAVE AS-- YOU KNOW, 391 00:20:12,846 --> 00:20:14,014 AN INSTAGRAM HANDLE." 392 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,715 WELL, YEAH. KIND OF FOR ANYBODY 393 00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:16,049 MAYBE. 394 00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:16,616 CORRECT. 395 00:20:17,784 --> 00:20:18,385 IT WAS ACTUALLY 396 00:20:18,485 --> 00:20:20,920 "HOMICIDEHANDZ"...REGARDLESS, 397 00:20:21,021 --> 00:20:22,188 SOON AFTER THE TWO STARTED 398 00:20:22,288 --> 00:20:23,289 CHATTING ONLINE. 399 00:20:24,024 --> 00:20:24,924 I ASKED HER. I SAID, "WOULD YOU 400 00:20:25,025 --> 00:20:26,026 WANNA GO OUT AND STUFF?" SHE 401 00:20:26,126 --> 00:20:26,860 SAYS, "WELL, I HA-- WE HAVE TO 402 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,894 KEEP IT ON THE DOWN LOW 403 00:20:27,994 --> 00:20:29,829 BECAUSE--, "I WORK WITH MY 404 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:32,065 HUSBAND'S STEPFATHER. HE'S A 405 00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:33,166 DETECTIVE AT THE ONE-O-SIX 406 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,602 PRECINCT." "SO I REALLY CAN'T BE 407 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,871 SEEN OUT WITH YOU AT THIS POINT 408 00:20:37,971 --> 00:20:39,673 BECAUSE HE'LL FIND OUT AND THEN 409 00:20:39,773 --> 00:20:40,273 TELL MY HUSBAND." 410 00:20:40,974 --> 00:20:42,942 ANY PART OF YOU THINKING, "MAYBE 411 00:20:43,043 --> 00:20:44,010 I SHOULD HEAD IN THE OTHER 412 00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:45,311 DIRECTION FROM THIS WOMAN"? 413 00:20:45,412 --> 00:20:46,513 MAYBE SOME RED FLAGS? 414 00:20:46,613 --> 00:20:47,881 NO, I-- I SAID TO MYSELF, "YOU 415 00:20:47,981 --> 00:20:49,049 KNOW WHAT? LET'S SEE WHERE IT 416 00:20:49,149 --> 00:20:50,517 GOES. YOU KNOW, HOW BAD CAN SHE 417 00:20:50,617 --> 00:20:52,018 BE? SHE'S A POLICE OFFICER, A 418 00:20:52,118 --> 00:20:52,819 MOTHER OF TWO." 419 00:20:54,421 --> 00:20:55,955 THEY STARTED TO SEE EACH OTHER, 420 00:20:56,156 --> 00:20:59,225 BUT KEPT IT SECRET. WITHIN 421 00:20:59,325 --> 00:21:01,061 WEEKS, JOHN SAYS THEY'D DIALED 422 00:21:01,161 --> 00:21:03,163 UP THE HEAT WITH SECRET HOTEL 423 00:21:03,263 --> 00:21:04,964 TRYSTS AND LOTS OF SEX. 424 00:21:05,832 --> 00:21:06,966 WE'RE TALKING EVERY DAY. WE'RE 425 00:21:07,067 --> 00:21:08,601 TALKING AT NIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT 426 00:21:08,702 --> 00:21:09,602 WAS A LITTLE ROUGH AT NIGHT AND 427 00:21:09,703 --> 00:21:10,670 STUFF BECAUSE HER HUSBAND WAS 428 00:21:10,770 --> 00:21:12,138 HOME. SHE'D HAVE TO SNEAK AROUND 429 00:21:12,238 --> 00:21:13,540 AND CALL FROM DIFFERENT ROOMS. 430 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,708 OH, WOW. SHE WAS STILL LIVING 431 00:21:14,808 --> 00:21:15,575 WITH HIM? 432 00:21:15,675 --> 00:21:16,409 SHE WAS STILL LIVING WITH HIM AT 433 00:21:16,509 --> 00:21:17,477 THE HOUSE AT THE TIME. 434 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:20,480 LIVING WITH HIM - BUT ACCORDING 435 00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:22,749 TO HER, ALSO LIVING IN FEAR. 436 00:21:23,483 --> 00:21:24,984 JOHN SAYS THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 437 00:21:25,085 --> 00:21:26,086 OFFICER- TOLD HIM SHE WAS A 438 00:21:26,186 --> 00:21:28,288 VICTIM HERSELF. AT THE HANDS OF 439 00:21:28,388 --> 00:21:29,122 HER HUSBAND. 440 00:21:29,656 --> 00:21:31,524 WHAT EXACTLY DID SHE SAY HE WAS 441 00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:31,925 DOING? 442 00:21:32,525 --> 00:21:33,560 HE WAS ABUSIVE. HE WOULD-- 443 00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:35,995 VERBALLY ABUSE HER. WAS ALWAYS 444 00:21:36,096 --> 00:21:37,397 WATCHIN' VIDEOGAMES AND NOT 445 00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:38,998 PAYING ATTENTION TO THE KIDS, 446 00:21:39,099 --> 00:21:41,568 HIS SON AND, UH, HE'S NOT A NICE 447 00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:42,002 PERSON. 448 00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:44,504 JOHN THOUGHT HE COULD NOT ONLY 449 00:21:44,604 --> 00:21:46,339 SAVE VALERIE FROM HER HUSBAND - 450 00:21:46,439 --> 00:21:48,008 BUT ALSO FIND THE KIND OF LOVE 451 00:21:48,108 --> 00:21:50,443 HE'D LONGED FOR. AFTER HIS 12 452 00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:51,845 YEAR MARRIAGE FAILED- HE HAD 453 00:21:51,945 --> 00:21:52,612 SEVERAL SHORT-TERM 454 00:21:52,712 --> 00:21:54,981 RELATIONSHIPS. NOW, HE WAS 455 00:21:55,115 --> 00:21:56,349 GUSHING TO FRIENDS ABOUT THE NEW 456 00:21:56,449 --> 00:21:57,384 WOMAN IN HIS LIFE... 457 00:21:57,717 --> 00:22:00,120 I HAVE NOT SEEN HIM FALL HEAD 458 00:22:00,220 --> 00:22:02,155 OVER HEELS LIKE THIS FOR SOMEONE 459 00:22:02,355 --> 00:22:03,790 PROBABLY EVER SINCE I'VE KNOW 460 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:04,057 HIM. 461 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:07,594 MARK GUS SCOTT HAS KNOWN JOHN 462 00:22:07,694 --> 00:22:10,130 FOR 30 YEARS. NOW LIVING IN 463 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:11,865 PHOENIX, HE OFTEN SPOKE WITH HIS 464 00:22:11,965 --> 00:22:13,366 FRIEND BACK IN NEW YORK. 465 00:22:14,067 --> 00:22:16,169 FOR JOHN TO EXHIBIT THESE 466 00:22:16,269 --> 00:22:20,073 SYMPTOMS OF BEING IN LOVE AS A 467 00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:21,741 DISEASE, IT WAS AMAZING. 468 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:24,077 MARK MET JOHN WHILE TOURING THE 469 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:25,512 WORLD WITH THE HIT 90'S GLAM 470 00:22:25,612 --> 00:22:26,913 ROCK BAND, TRIXTER 471 00:22:27,147 --> 00:22:28,648 MARK WAS THE BAND'S DRUMMER. 472 00:22:29,416 --> 00:22:30,984 JOHN WAS IN CHARGE OF THE BAND'S 473 00:22:31,084 --> 00:22:31,718 SECURITY. 474 00:22:32,285 --> 00:22:33,887 HE'S ALSO A MAN WHO'S WORN MANY 475 00:22:33,987 --> 00:22:35,388 DIFFERENT HATS: HE'S FLIPPED 476 00:22:35,488 --> 00:22:37,490 HOUSES, OWNED A BAKERY -- AND AT 477 00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:39,259 ONE TIME RAN A TATTOO PARLOR OUT 478 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,126 OF AN OLD BANK. 479 00:22:40,727 --> 00:22:42,862 BUT SECURITY WAS HIS MAIN JOB - 480 00:22:42,962 --> 00:22:44,197 INCLUDING BACK IN THE 80'S 481 00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:46,266 PROTECTING THE LATE COMEDIAN SAM 482 00:22:46,366 --> 00:22:46,900 KINISON. 483 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,902 WAS JOHN DIRUBBA THE KINDA GUY 484 00:22:49,002 --> 00:22:50,670 YOU WANTED DOING SECURITY? 485 00:22:50,770 --> 00:22:53,106 100%. HE-- HE CERTAINLY HAD A 486 00:22:53,173 --> 00:22:53,773 TEMPERAMENT ABOUT HIM WHEN HE 487 00:22:54,474 --> 00:22:56,109 DID. THE IDEA WAS NOT TO CREATE 488 00:22:56,209 --> 00:22:57,377 A SITUATION, BUT TO AVOID A 489 00:22:57,477 --> 00:22:59,112 SITUATION. HE HAD THE BRAINS 490 00:22:59,145 --> 00:23:00,747 ENOUGH TO AT LEAST KNOW THE 491 00:23:00,847 --> 00:23:01,214 DIFFERENCE. 492 00:23:01,915 --> 00:23:04,250 NOW, ALL THESE YEARS LATER JOHN 493 00:23:04,351 --> 00:23:06,119 TOLD MARK HE'D FINALLY FOUND THE 494 00:23:06,219 --> 00:23:06,720 ONE. 495 00:23:07,354 --> 00:23:08,254 WAS THIS THE HAPPIEST MAYBE 496 00:23:08,355 --> 00:23:09,222 YOU'D EVER SEEN HIM? 497 00:23:09,322 --> 00:23:10,957 PROBABLY SO, YES. PARTICULARLY-- 498 00:23:11,057 --> 00:23:12,425 AND-- AND TO TALK ABOUT ONE 499 00:23:12,525 --> 00:23:14,461 YOUNG LADY THAT DOMINATED HIS 500 00:23:14,561 --> 00:23:16,162 FOCUS, I THINK THAT WAS A 501 00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:17,764 TELLTALE SIGN THAT THERE WAS 502 00:23:17,864 --> 00:23:19,099 SOMETHIN' COOKING HERE THAT WAS 503 00:23:19,199 --> 00:23:19,933 REALLY AMAZING. 504 00:23:21,468 --> 00:23:22,635 JOHN BELIEVED VALERIE WAS 505 00:23:22,736 --> 00:23:25,105 FALLING HARD FOR HIM TOO... AS 506 00:23:25,205 --> 00:23:26,573 PROOF, HE POINTS TO THE TIME SHE 507 00:23:26,673 --> 00:23:28,074 WENT AWAY ON A BEACH VACATION 508 00:23:28,174 --> 00:23:29,075 WITH HER HUSBAND. 509 00:23:29,476 --> 00:23:30,577 SO ON THE TRIP, SHE WOULD CALL 510 00:23:30,677 --> 00:23:32,512 ME DAY AND NIGHT, SEND ME 511 00:23:32,612 --> 00:23:35,081 PICTURES. I'M HERE. HE'S 512 00:23:35,115 --> 00:23:35,982 SLEEPING IN THE OTHER ROOM. 513 00:23:36,082 --> 00:23:37,083 DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I MISS 514 00:23:37,117 --> 00:23:38,718 YOU. I LOVE YOU. SHE WOULD EVEN 515 00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:40,387 SEND PICTURES OF HER NAME, 516 00:23:40,487 --> 00:23:42,489 "VALERIE DIRUBBA," USING MY LAST 517 00:23:42,589 --> 00:23:43,189 NAME IN THE SAND. 518 00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:44,124 WOW. 519 00:23:44,224 --> 00:23:44,991 AND THEN SHE WOULD WRITE, 520 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:46,493 "VALERIE AND JOHN" IN THE SAND. 521 00:23:46,693 --> 00:23:47,827 THIS IS WHILE SHE'S ON VACATION 522 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:48,495 WITH HER HUSBAND? 523 00:23:49,162 --> 00:23:49,662 ON VACATION WITH HER HUSBAND. 524 00:23:51,664 --> 00:23:53,099 WHAT VALERIE'S HUSBAND ALSO 525 00:23:53,166 --> 00:23:54,300 DIDN'T KNOW WAS THAT JOHN HAD 526 00:23:54,401 --> 00:23:56,136 MET HER TWO CHILDREN. AND TO 527 00:23:56,236 --> 00:23:57,637 KEEP THAT A SECRET JOHN SAYS 528 00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,639 VALERIE CAME UP WITH A "UNIQUE" 529 00:23:59,739 --> 00:24:00,273 PLAN... 530 00:24:01,041 --> 00:24:02,342 I MET HER CHILDREN. AND-- THAT 531 00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:03,643 WENT PRETTY WELL TILL THEY ASKED 532 00:24:03,743 --> 00:24:04,844 ME WHAT MY NAME WAS AND THEN 533 00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:06,112 VALERIE TURNED AROUND AND SAID, 534 00:24:06,212 --> 00:24:08,248 "HIS NAME IS MARY." SO IT WAS, 535 00:24:08,348 --> 00:24:09,182 LIKE, KINDA STRANGE Y-- YOU 536 00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:09,949 KNOW? 537 00:24:10,050 --> 00:24:11,051 WELL, YEAH, FOR A NUMBEROF 538 00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:11,651 REASONS. 539 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:13,386 SO I SAID, "YEAH, MY NAME IS 540 00:24:13,486 --> 00:24:15,055 MARY" AFTER VALERIE SAID IT. YOU 541 00:24:15,088 --> 00:24:15,722 KNOW, I SPOKE TO VALERIE 542 00:24:15,822 --> 00:24:16,756 PRIVATELY. I SAID, "VALERIE WHY 543 00:24:16,856 --> 00:24:17,691 ARE YOU TELLIN'-- M-- MY NAME IS 544 00:24:17,791 --> 00:24:18,658 MARY?" "WELL, THEY'RE GONNA COME 545 00:24:18,758 --> 00:24:19,492 HOME AND TELL M-- YOU KNOW, MY 546 00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:21,161 HUSBAND" SO SHE WANTED TO MAKE 547 00:24:21,261 --> 00:24:22,595 IT LOOK LIKE SHE WAS OUT WITH A 548 00:24:22,696 --> 00:24:23,663 FRIEND NAMED MARY. 549 00:24:25,165 --> 00:24:26,566 VALERIE ALSO MET JOHN'S 550 00:24:26,666 --> 00:24:28,301 DAUGHTER-WHO WAS 14 AND LIVING 551 00:24:28,401 --> 00:24:29,336 WITH HIM FULL TIME.. 552 00:24:29,869 --> 00:24:31,404 WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP LIKE 553 00:24:31,504 --> 00:24:32,539 WITH YOUR DAUGHTER AT THIS TIME 554 00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:33,940 WHEN YOU MEET VALERIE? 555 00:24:34,174 --> 00:24:35,075 WELL, MY DAUGHTER WAS A LITTLE 556 00:24:35,108 --> 00:24:36,242 EXCITED SHE SAYS, "DAD, YOU NEED 557 00:24:36,343 --> 00:24:37,777 TO MEET SOMEBODY." SO I SAID, 558 00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:39,412 "OKAY," YOU KNOW? AND THEN TIME 559 00:24:39,512 --> 00:24:40,880 WENT BY AND I DID MEET VALERIE. 560 00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:43,083 EVERYTHING WAS FALLING INTO 561 00:24:43,183 --> 00:24:45,418 PLACE. JOHN SAW A FUTURE WITH 562 00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:46,619 THE WORKING MOM WHO WAS AN 563 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,987 UPSTANDING OFFICER... 564 00:24:48,388 --> 00:24:50,123 HE'D FALLEN MADLY IN LOVE.... 565 00:24:50,557 --> 00:24:52,359 IT BECAME LESS ABOUT THE SEX AND 566 00:24:52,459 --> 00:24:53,693 MORE ABOUT THE CONNECTION? 567 00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:55,362 YEAH. W-- IT WASN'T EVER ABOUT 568 00:24:55,462 --> 00:24:56,429 THE SEX. IT WASN'T ABOUT THE 569 00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:57,764 UNIFORM IT WAS ABOUT THE PERSON 570 00:24:57,864 --> 00:24:59,199 SHE WAS. YOU KNOW, "MAYBE I 571 00:24:59,299 --> 00:25:00,166 COULD HAVE A FAMILY DOWN THE 572 00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:00,600 ROAD." 573 00:25:01,301 --> 00:25:02,068 IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU FELL QUICKLY 574 00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:02,736 FOR HER. 575 00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:03,937 YEAH. I THINK IT WAS LOVE AT 576 00:25:04,037 --> 00:25:04,371 FIRST SIGHT. 577 00:25:05,038 --> 00:25:06,072 LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT? REALLY? 578 00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:07,440 (CRYING) OH. 579 00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:08,341 JUST CUT. 580 00:25:08,441 --> 00:25:12,912 I'M SORRY. THIS REALLY HITS YOU. 581 00:25:13,046 --> 00:25:13,546 YES. 582 00:25:15,081 --> 00:25:15,882 BUT AS THE OLD SAYING 583 00:25:16,049 --> 00:25:18,852 GOES...LOVE IS BLIND...AND JOHN 584 00:25:18,952 --> 00:25:20,587 WAS ABOUT TO DISCOVER JUST HOW 585 00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:22,222 DARK THINGS COULD GET. 586 00:25:25,258 --> 00:25:25,759 COMING UP: 587 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:27,761 TWO POLICE CARS PULL UP 588 00:25:28,261 --> 00:25:29,896 AND THEN I SEE HIM COME OUT WITH 589 00:25:30,063 --> 00:25:30,530 HANDCUFFS ON. 590 00:25:30,764 --> 00:25:33,066 VALERIE'S HUSBAND ISIAH -- 591 00:25:33,166 --> 00:25:34,934 SUDDENLY UNDER ARREST! 592 00:25:35,335 --> 00:25:36,403 WAS THAT SCARY TO YOU? 593 00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:37,103 OH YEAH. DEFINITELY 594 00:25:37,337 --> 00:25:38,605 SHE PORTRAYED HIM AS A BAD 595 00:25:38,772 --> 00:25:42,175 FATHER, A BAD GUY, A BAD HUSBAND 596 00:25:42,442 --> 00:25:43,910 MAYBE THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY 597 00:26:04,531 --> 00:26:09,302 >> Reporter: AN EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIR CAN BE LIKE A GAME OF CAT 598 00:26:09,302 --> 00:26:12,539 AND MOUSE. THE SNEAKING AROUND, THE SECRET 599 00:26:12,539 --> 00:26:16,876 RENDEZVOUS ALL THE WHILE TRYING NOT TO GET CAUGHT. 600 00:26:16,876 --> 00:26:19,245 >> WE USED TO MEET UP IN PARKING LOTS, DUNKIN' DONUTS, 601 00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:20,780 McDONALD'S >> Reporter: AND VALERIE AND 602 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:22,882 JOHN WERE TRYING NOT TO GET CAUGHT BY HER HUSBAND, ISAIAH. 603 00:26:22,882 --> 00:26:25,518 WAS THIS, KIND OF, LIKE YOUR SECRET SPOT? 604 00:26:25,518 --> 00:26:30,190 >> WE COULDN'T GO TO MY HOUSE AND WE COULDN'T GO TO HER HOUSE. 605 00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:34,294 SO WE HAD TO MEET SOMEWHERE. >> Reporter: WAS THERE SOME 606 00:26:34,294 --> 00:26:35,962 HANKY PACIFIC KI GOING ON IN THE CAR MEET-UPS 607 00:26:35,962 --> 00:26:37,364 >> YEAH, SOMETIMES SOMETIMES. 608 00:26:37,364 --> 00:26:39,499 >> Reporter: BUT SIX MONTHS INTO THEIR RELATIONSHIP, ALL THAT 609 00:26:39,499 --> 00:26:43,636 SNEAKING AROUND EVENTUALLY CAUGHT UP WITH JOHN AND VALERIE. 610 00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:45,705 IT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER THEY PULLED INTO THIS LONG ISLAND 611 00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:48,842 PARKING LOT. >> WE STARTED KISSING AND 612 00:26:48,842 --> 00:26:52,479 HANGING OUT IN THE CAR AND BEFORE I KNOW IT, I LOOKED 613 00:26:52,479 --> 00:26:54,080 UP, AND I NOTICED IT WAS HER HUSBAND. 614 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,915 >> Reporter: OH, MY GOSH DID YOUR HEART JUST START 615 00:26:55,915 --> 00:26:59,085 BEATING REALLY FAST? >> I SAID, "VAL. 616 00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:00,387 I SAID, "YOUR HUSBAND IS RIGHT THERE. 617 00:27:00,387 --> 00:27:02,856 SHE SAYS, "WHERE?" I SAID, "RIGHT THERE 618 00:27:02,856 --> 00:27:05,492 HE'S STANDING THERE. >> Reporter: VALERIE'S HUSBAND 619 00:27:05,492 --> 00:27:09,562 ISAIAH WAS ON FOOT ABOUT 200 FEET AWAY. 620 00:27:09,562 --> 00:27:13,500 DARTING ABOUT THE STREET, ANXIOUSLY LOOKING FOR HIS WIFE 621 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:15,435 WERE YOU KIND OF SCARED NO KNOWING WHAT HE WAS CAPABLE OF 622 00:27:15,435 --> 00:27:19,939 AND HE'S THIS HOT ON YOUR TRAIL. >> ABSOLUTELY. 623 00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:23,109 SO THEN SHE'S REALIZED SHE LEFT HER TRACKER ON HER PHONE ON FIND 624 00:27:23,109 --> 00:27:26,179 MY iPHONE, AND THAT'S HOW HE FOUND HER LOCATION WHERE SHE 625 00:27:26,179 --> 00:27:28,848 WAS. >> Reporter: BUT ISAIAH NEVER 626 00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:31,317 SPOTTED HIS WIFE AND JOHN IN THE DARK PARKING LOT 627 00:27:31,317 --> 00:27:35,188 EVENTUALLY HE GOT BACK IN HIS CAR AND LEFT 628 00:27:35,188 --> 00:27:41,061 DID YOU FEEL GUILTY AT ALL WHEN YOU SAW ISAIAH HERE? 629 00:27:41,061 --> 00:27:42,962 >> NO, I DIDN'T FEEL GUILT BECAUSE SHE PORTRAYED HIM AS A 630 00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:46,232 BAD FATHER, A BAD GUY, A BAD HUSBAND, ABUSIVE 631 00:27:46,232 --> 00:27:48,968 >> Reporter: STILL, AFTER THAT CLOSE CALL SOMETHING CLICKED 632 00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:51,171 WITH JOHN. HE STARTED TO QUESTION HIS 633 00:27:51,171 --> 00:27:53,940 RELATIONSHIP WITH VALERIE. DID YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WERE 634 00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:58,278 PLAYING WITH FIRE AT THIS POINT WHEN HE GETS THAT CLOSE? 635 00:27:58,278 --> 00:28:02,215 >> YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE SHE SAYS, YOU 636 00:28:02,215 --> 00:28:05,118 KNOW, HE WANTED A DIVORCE. SO THEN I STARTED SAYING TO 637 00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:07,587 MYSELF, "WHY WOULD A GUY COME OUT LOOKING FOR HIS WIFE IF HE 638 00:28:07,587 --> 00:28:10,156 DIDN'T REALLY CARE?" SO THAT'S WHAT STARTED ME 639 00:28:10,156 --> 00:28:16,763 THINKING, YOU KNOW, "MAYBE THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY. 640 00:28:16,763 --> 00:28:18,631 >> Reporter: AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED, SOMETHING JOHN 641 00:28:18,631 --> 00:28:21,534 SAYS HE FOUND TERRIBLY TROUBLING. 642 00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:23,870 ONE DAY HE SAYS VALERIE INVITED HIM OVER TO HER HOUSE. 643 00:28:23,870 --> 00:28:27,874 BUT WHEN HE PULLED UP HE COULD SEE ISAIAH WAS THERE 644 00:28:27,874 --> 00:28:29,175 >> SO I CALLED HER UP, AND I SAID, "LISTEN, YOU KNOW, YOUR 645 00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:31,044 HUSBAND'S CAR'S IN THE DRIVEWAY." 646 00:28:31,044 --> 00:28:32,579 SHE GOES, "JUST PARK AT THE END OF THE BLOCK AND WAIT A FEW 647 00:28:32,579 --> 00:28:36,349 MINUTES. AND SHE HANGS UP ON ME 648 00:28:36,349 --> 00:28:39,619 >> Reporter: JOHN SAYS HE WAITED A HALF HOUR IN HIS CAR THE 649 00:28:39,619 --> 00:28:42,856 CALLED VALERIE AGAIN >> SHE SAYS, "JUST SIT THERE AND 650 00:28:42,856 --> 00:28:47,527 WATCH THE SHOW." SO I SAID, "WATCH THE SHOW?" 651 00:28:47,527 --> 00:28:48,895 I SAID, "WHAT ARE YOU -- AND SHE HUNG UP. 652 00:28:48,895 --> 00:28:50,397 SO, LIKE, TEN MINUTES LATER, TWO POLICE CARS PULL UP. 653 00:28:50,397 --> 00:28:52,832 AND I SEE THEM GO IN THE HOUSE AND THEN I SEE HIM COME OUT WITH 654 00:28:52,832 --> 00:28:55,535 HANDCUFFS ON >> Reporter: ISAIAH WAS 655 00:28:55,535 --> 00:28:57,904 ARRESTED JOHN SAYS HE THEN ASKED VALERIE 656 00:28:57,904 --> 00:29:00,473 WHAT WAS GOING ON. >> I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED. 657 00:29:00,473 --> 00:29:03,009 I SAID, "YOU'RE CALLING THE POLICE NOW?" 658 00:29:03,009 --> 00:29:05,712 AND THEN SHE SAYS, "OH, SHUT UP," SHE SAYS. 659 00:29:05,712 --> 00:29:08,815 "WELL, THIS IS ONE WAY TO GET HIM OUT OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE H 660 00:29:08,815 --> 00:29:11,885 WOULDN'T LEAVE TO GO TO HIS MOTHER'S AND STAY THERE BECAUSE 661 00:29:11,885 --> 00:29:13,219 I DIDN'T WANT HIM HERE." >> Reporter: JOHN'S FRIEND MARK 662 00:29:13,219 --> 00:29:16,790 COULD TELL HIS FRIEND WAS CONFLICTED 663 00:29:16,790 --> 00:29:19,059 DEEPLY IN LOVE WITH VALERIE WHILE ALSO QUESTIONING THE KIND 664 00:29:19,059 --> 00:29:21,461 OF PERSON SHE WAS. >> IF ANYBODY WHO I KNEW WAS IN 665 00:29:21,461 --> 00:29:24,197 CONTROL, HE WAS STARTING TO LOSE CONTROL. 666 00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:29,602 HE WAS STARTING TO FEEL VERY UNSTEADY 667 00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:35,275 HIS PERSONALITY WAS CHANGING >> Reporter: AS FOR ISAIAH'S 668 00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:37,043 ARREST, VALERIE CLAIMED IN A POLICE REPORT HE SMACKED HER 669 00:29:37,043 --> 00:29:39,913 HAND WHICH CAUSED HER PHONE TO FALL TO THE GROUND, CRACKING HER 670 00:29:39,913 --> 00:29:42,649 SCREEN PROTECTOR UNDER NEW YORK DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 671 00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:45,752 LAWS, THAT'S ENOUGH FOR AN ARREST 672 00:29:45,752 --> 00:29:48,455 BUT ISAIAH'S MOM AND STEPDAD TOLD US THEY BELIEVE THEIR SON 673 00:29:48,455 --> 00:29:49,856 WAS SET UP WAS THAT SCARY TO YOU, THAT YOUR 674 00:29:49,856 --> 00:29:51,758 BELIEF THAT SHE USED HER KNOWLEDGE OF DOMESTIC 675 00:29:51,758 --> 00:29:53,126 VIOLENCE - >> OH, YEAH. 676 00:29:53,126 --> 00:29:57,897 DEFINITELY >> YES 677 00:29:57,897 --> 00:29:59,466 >> Reporter: -- WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HER ADVANTAGE 678 00:29:59,466 --> 00:30:00,834 >> YES >> DEFINITELY. 679 00:30:00,834 --> 00:30:02,469 >> I WAS PISSED. AND I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING TO 680 00:30:02,469 --> 00:30:03,837 HER, BUT SHE'S A COLLEAGUE IT IS DOMESTIC. 681 00:30:03,837 --> 00:30:07,674 "KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. YOU DON'T WANNA GET YOURSELF IN 682 00:30:07,674 --> 00:30:11,044 TROUBLE. >> Reporter: ISAIAH EVENTUALLY 683 00:30:11,044 --> 00:30:14,481 PLEADED GUILTY TO A DISORDERLY CONDUCT VIOLATION, WHICH IS LESS 684 00:30:14,481 --> 00:30:17,450 THAN A MISDEMEANOR HE MOVED OUT OF THE HOUSE HE 685 00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:19,686 SHARED WITH VALERIE. BY THEN, HE'D ALSO COME TO THE 686 00:30:19,686 --> 00:30:23,890 CONCLUSION VALERIE WASN'T FAITHFUL 687 00:30:23,890 --> 00:30:27,494 >> ISAIAH HAD KIND OF SUSPECTED AT THIS POINT -- 688 00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:29,162 >> I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT HE SUSPECTED THAT SHE WAS -- 689 00:30:29,162 --> 00:30:30,096 >> Reporter: VALERIE MIGHT BE CHEATING 690 00:30:30,096 --> 00:30:31,531 >> RIGHT >> YES 691 00:30:31,531 --> 00:30:32,932 >> Reporter: WHILE IT APPEARED VALERIE WAS OVER HER MARRIAGE, 692 00:30:32,932 --> 00:30:36,503 ISAIAH WASN'T. >> WE'VE SAID TO HIM NUMEROUS 693 00:30:36,503 --> 00:30:38,471 TIMES, "LISTEN, GET A DIVORCE. WE'LL HELP YOU OUT 694 00:30:38,471 --> 00:30:40,407 WE'LL DO WHAT YOU GO TO DO." AND HE TURNED AROUND TO US LIKE, 695 00:30:40,407 --> 00:30:44,077 YOU KNOW, "I DON'T WANT MY SON GROWING UP WITH DIVORCED PARENTS 696 00:30:44,077 --> 00:30:45,945 LIKE I DID." >> Reporter: ISAIAH'S STEPDAD 697 00:30:45,945 --> 00:30:50,450 HAD NO IDEA HE WAS ABOUT TO GET FURTHER INVOLVED WITH HIS SON'S 698 00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:53,687 MARRIAGE, BUT HE WOULD AFTER HE GOT A MYSTERIOUS TEXT 699 00:30:53,687 --> 00:30:59,626 MESSAGE, HE ENDED UP IN ONE OF THE MOST UNUSUAL MEETINGS OF HIS 700 00:30:59,626 --> 00:31:01,961 LIFE >>> COMING UP -- 701 00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:07,100 JOHN SAYS HE SEES A FRIGHTENING SIDE OF VALERIE. 702 00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,069 >> SHE PULLS OUT HER GUN, AND SHE POINTS IT RIGHT TO MY FACE 703 00:31:09,069 --> 00:31:13,707 AND SHE SAYS TO ME, "IF YOU EVER LIE TO ME AGAIN, I'LL BLOW YOUR 704 00:31:13,707 --> 00:31:33,827 HEAD OFF." >> AND HUSBAND MEETS 705 00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:36,963 >> Reporter: JOHN DiRUBBA SUDDENLY FOUND HIMSELF 706 00:31:36,963 --> 00:31:40,500 QUESTIONING HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS LOVER, VALERIE 707 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:46,406 CINCINELLI, THE MARRIED NEW YORK CITY POLICE OFFICER. 708 00:31:46,406 --> 00:31:47,974 >> Reporter: FOR ONE THING, JOHN SAYS HE WAS GOING BROKE BECAUSE 709 00:31:47,974 --> 00:31:50,844 HE WAS SPENDING A LOT OF HIS MONEY ON VALERIE 710 00:31:50,844 --> 00:31:51,845 WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE YOU BUYING HER 711 00:31:51,845 --> 00:31:53,780 >> NEW TIRES FOR HER CAR, NEW BRAKES, JEWELRY, CLOTHING, 712 00:31:53,780 --> 00:31:56,683 CLOTHING FOR THE KIDS, HELPING HER PAY HER MORTGAGE 713 00:31:56,683 --> 00:32:01,287 I WAS PAYING A LOT OF THINGS AND IN THE MEANTIME, I WASN'T 714 00:32:01,287 --> 00:32:02,589 PAYING MY BILLS AT MY HOME IN HOWARD BEACH 715 00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:04,224 >> BECAUSE YOU WERE SPENDING ALL YOUR MONEY ON HER? 716 00:32:04,224 --> 00:32:08,294 >> SPENDING ALL -- ALL THE MONEY ON HER 717 00:32:08,294 --> 00:32:12,665 >> Reporter: WHATEVER THE MONEY ISSUES WERE, JOHN SAYS HE 718 00:32:12,665 --> 00:32:17,404 STARTED TO SEE THAT VALERIE HAD A MEAN, JEALOUS STREAK 719 00:32:17,404 --> 00:32:18,772 ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAME TO ONE PERSON, SOMEONE SURPRISING, HIS 720 00:32:18,772 --> 00:32:20,073 14-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER >> SHE WANTED ME MORE TO 721 00:32:20,073 --> 00:32:21,541 HERSELF. SHE WANTED ME MORE WITH HER KIDS 722 00:32:21,541 --> 00:32:26,312 INSTEAD OF MY DAUGHTER YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD SAY THINGS 723 00:32:26,312 --> 00:32:27,547 LIKE, "WHY ARE YOU GOING TO THE MALL WITH YOUR DAUGHTER BUYING 724 00:32:27,547 --> 00:32:35,455 HER THINGS AND NOT BUYING ME AND MY KIDS THINGS?" 725 00:32:35,455 --> 00:32:36,623 SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST, LIKE -- YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW 726 00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:37,791 HOW TO TAKE IT AT THE TIME >> WELL, DID YOU TELL HER, LIKE, 727 00:32:37,791 --> 00:32:40,927 "SHE'S MY ONLY CHILD"? >> YEAH. 728 00:32:40,927 --> 00:32:44,230 I TOLD HER SHE'S - >> "AND I'M RAISING HER" 729 00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:47,334 >> SHE -- I TOLD HER, "SHE'S MY DAUGHTER." 730 00:32:47,334 --> 00:32:54,674 I SAID, "I RAISED HER SINCE SHE'S 1. 731 00:32:54,674 --> 00:32:56,142 YOU KNOW, AND THEN SHE WOULD JUST, LIKE, MAKE FACES AND -- 732 00:32:56,142 --> 00:32:57,644 AND JUST START EVEN BEING MAD ABOUT IT 733 00:32:57,644 --> 00:32:59,245 >> Reporter: JOHN'S FRIEND MARK FELT HIS BUDDY WAS ADDICTED TO 734 00:32:59,245 --> 00:33:00,814 VALERIE AND WOULDN'T LEAVE HER >> I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BEEN 735 00:33:00,814 --> 00:33:02,349 PUT IN A SITUATION WHERE YOUR HEART STRINGS ARE TIED ONTO 736 00:33:02,349 --> 00:33:03,850 SOMETHING. TO KEEP THAT EMOTIONAL SOMETHING 737 00:33:03,850 --> 00:33:05,352 GOING 'CAUSE THAT MEANS SO MUCH TO YOU INSIDE. 738 00:33:05,352 --> 00:33:08,154 AND I THINK JOHN WAS SO FAR UNDER THAT SPELL, THAT HE 739 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:10,323 COULDN'T IMAGINE HIMSELF WALKING AWAY 740 00:33:10,323 --> 00:33:12,058 >> VALERIE WAS LIKE A DRUG >> I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD 741 00:33:12,058 --> 00:33:14,394 WAY TO PUT IT, YEAH. IT WAS LIKE A DRUG 742 00:33:14,394 --> 00:33:18,331 >> Reporter: BUT THEN CAME THE FINAL STRAW -- 743 00:33:18,331 --> 00:33:24,404 >> Reporter: JOHN SAYS ONE DAY 11 MONTHS INTO THEIR 744 00:33:24,404 --> 00:33:27,173 RELATIONSHIP, VALERIE WAS TAKING A SHOWER WHEN HIS DAUGHTER, THE 745 00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:29,409 PERSON SHE WAS JEALOUS OF, SENT HIM A MESSAGE. 746 00:33:29,409 --> 00:33:30,877 WHEN VALERIE CAME OUT OF THE BATHROOM, SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHO 747 00:33:30,877 --> 00:33:32,145 HE WAS TEXTING >> SHE LOOKS AT ME 748 00:33:32,145 --> 00:33:35,515 SHE GOES, "WHO TEXT YOU? I SAID, "I DON'T KNOW. 749 00:33:35,515 --> 00:33:37,684 I THINK IT WAS JUST AN EMAIL BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO START 750 00:33:37,684 --> 00:33:44,524 AN ARGUMENT. SHE GOES, OH, REALLY 751 00:33:44,524 --> 00:33:48,962 SHE TURNS AROUND, REACHES DOWN IN HER DUFFEL BAG AND SH 752 00:33:48,962 --> 00:33:50,764 PULLS OUT HER GUN. AND SHE POINTS IT RIGHT TO MY 753 00:33:50,764 --> 00:33:52,098 FACE AND SHE SAYS TO ME, "IF YOU EVER 754 00:33:52,098 --> 00:33:55,602 LIE TO ME AGAIN, I'LL BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF." 755 00:33:55,602 --> 00:33:56,903 SHE GOES, "DON'T YOU EVER LIE TO ME AGAIN. 756 00:33:56,903 --> 00:33:58,371 THAT'S IT. >> Reporter: SHAKEN AND UNNERVED 757 00:33:58,371 --> 00:34:01,241 JOHN MADE A DECISIVE CALL TO THE NYPD'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS OFFICE 758 00:34:01,241 --> 00:34:06,279 HE TURNED IN THE WOMAN HE LOVED. >> WELL, WHY DID YOU MAKE THAT 759 00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:07,614 CALL >> 'CAUSE I WAS AFRAID FOR 760 00:34:07,614 --> 00:34:10,250 MYSELF, MY LIFE AT THE TIME. YOU KNOW, SHE WAS REALLY SHAKING 761 00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:11,918 AND I WAS REALLY WORRIED YOU KNOW, HERE I GOT A COP 762 00:34:11,918 --> 00:34:16,623 THAT'S SHAKING A LOADED GUN IN MY FACE. 763 00:34:16,623 --> 00:34:20,727 >> Reporter: THE NYPD TOOK AWAY VALERIE'S GUN, AND SHE WAS PUT 764 00:34:20,727 --> 00:34:22,529 ON MODIFIED DUTY WHILE THEY INVESTIGATED THE ALLEGATION. 765 00:34:22,529 --> 00:34:27,200 FOR JOHN, THE RELATIONSHIP WAS OVER 766 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,668 >> VALERIE WAS ALWAYS ON A ROLLER COASTER 767 00:34:28,668 --> 00:34:30,136 WHEN VALERIE WAS GOOD, SHE WAS UNBELIEVABLE 768 00:34:30,136 --> 00:34:33,907 BUT THEN THE NEXT DAY, SHE WOULD BE SOMEBODY YOU DIDN'T KNOW. 769 00:34:33,907 --> 00:34:40,847 >> Reporter: SOMEONE ELSE WHO REACHED A PAINFUL DECISION WAS 770 00:34:40,847 --> 00:34:42,382 ISAIAH. IN LATE 2017, AFTER HE HAD BEEN 771 00:34:42,382 --> 00:34:44,217 ARRESTED FOR SMACKING VALERIE'S HAND HE CONTACTED DIVORCE 772 00:34:44,217 --> 00:34:49,622 ATTORNEY ERICA SAKOL >> HE HAD JUST BEEN FINISHED 773 00:34:49,622 --> 00:34:52,926 BEING ACCUSED OF SOMETHING THAT HE SAID HE DIDN'T DO AND TALKING 774 00:34:52,926 --> 00:34:54,327 ABOUT HOW VALERIE SET HIM UP, AND EVERYTHING HE HAD GONE 775 00:34:54,327 --> 00:34:56,329 THROUGH. SO, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT HE 776 00:34:56,329 --> 00:34:59,199 JUST WANTED TO BE FINISHED >> Reporter: WHILE VALERIE HAD 777 00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:05,305 SEEMED READY FOR A DIVORCE FOR SOME TIME, ISAIAH FINALLY CAME 778 00:35:05,305 --> 00:35:06,740 TO THE CONCLUSION THAT HE WAS ALSO READY TO END THEIR 779 00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:10,243 MARRIAGE >> WHAT DID YOU THINK OF HER AS 780 00:35:10,243 --> 00:35:15,548 YOU'RE HEARING ISAIAH'S STORY? >> YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF IN 781 00:35:15,548 --> 00:35:19,152 SHOCK THAT ONE WOMAN COULD BE SO MANIPULATIVE, COULD HAVE ALMOST, 782 00:35:19,152 --> 00:35:23,390 LIKE, A SVENGALI-LIKE RELATIONSHIP WITH MEN, THAT THEY 783 00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:26,292 WOULD STAY AND TAKE HER ABUSE AND, I DON'T KNOW, KEEP COMING 784 00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:29,162 BACK FOR MORE UNTIL ISAIAH FINALLY REACHED HIS BREAKING 785 00:35:29,162 --> 00:35:33,733 POINT WITH HER >> Reporter: BUT JUST AS THINGS 786 00:35:33,733 --> 00:35:38,838 SEEMED TO BE WRAPPING UP, EVERYTHING STARTED TO UNRAVEL. 787 00:35:38,838 --> 00:35:41,908 >> Reporter: AROUND THE SAME TIME ISAIAH STARTED HIS DIVORCE 788 00:35:41,908 --> 00:35:44,544 PROCEEDINGS, HIS STEPDAD PATRICK GOT AN UNUSUAL MESSAGE ON HIS 789 00:35:44,544 --> 00:35:47,247 PHONE. A STRANGER WANTED TO PASS ALONG 790 00:35:47,247 --> 00:35:53,219 THE NUMBER OF SOMEONE WHO COULD HELP WITH ISAIAH'S DIVORCE 791 00:35:53,219 --> 00:35:59,259 THE SEASONED DETECTIVE KNEW A GOOD LEAD WHEN HE SAW ONE. 792 00:35:59,259 --> 00:36:01,027 AND SOON AFTER, HE ENDED UP IN QUEENS SITTING AT A KITCHEN 793 00:36:01,027 --> 00:36:01,928 TABLE FACING A MAN HE'D NEVER MET BEFORE 794 00:36:01,928 --> 00:36:06,032 >> I MEAN, THIS IS, KIND OF, BIZARRE. 795 00:36:06,032 --> 00:36:08,101 >> OH, IT'S -- IT'S TOTALLY BIZARRE BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA 796 00:36:08,101 --> 00:36:09,336 WHERE THIS IS REALLY GOING AND HE TURNS AROUND AND HE GOES, "I 797 00:36:09,336 --> 00:36:10,904 JUST WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 798 00:36:10,904 --> 00:36:21,815 HE GOES, "I'VE BEEN DATING VALERIE. 799 00:36:21,815 --> 00:36:23,049 AND I'M LIKE -- AND I'M IN THE KITCHEN TABLE AND I'M -- I'M 800 00:36:23,049 --> 00:36:25,352 LIKE, "WAIT A MINUTE WHAT?" 801 00:36:25,352 --> 00:36:29,322 >> THE VALERIE WHO -- THAT'S MARRIED TO MY SON? 802 00:36:29,322 --> 00:36:30,724 >> YEAH. EXACTLY AND HE GOES -- HE GOES, "YEAH. 803 00:36:30,724 --> 00:36:32,092 HE GOES, "BUT LET ME EXPLAIN MYSELF." 804 00:36:32,092 --> 00:36:34,828 >> Reporter: THE MYSTERY MAN WAS JOHN DiRUBBA 805 00:36:34,828 --> 00:36:36,062 HE TOLD ISAIAH'S STEPDAD THAT HE DID SOME SNOOPING ON VALERIE'S 806 00:36:36,062 --> 00:36:37,163 PHONE. AND SAW TEXT MESSAGES THAT 807 00:36:37,163 --> 00:36:39,099 TOTALLY CHANGED HIS OPINION OF VALERIE'S HUSBAND. 808 00:36:39,099 --> 00:36:42,836 >> HE GOES, I FOUND THE TEXT MESSAGES FROM ISAIAH SAYING, 'I 809 00:36:42,836 --> 00:36:45,238 WANT TO STAY WITH THE FAMILY WE SHOULD BE TOGETHER FOR OUR 810 00:36:45,238 --> 00:36:47,741 SON. HE GOES, "AND I'M LOOKING AT 811 00:36:47,741 --> 00:36:49,242 THIS GOING, 'WAIT A MINUTE THIS ISN'T THE MONSTER SHE'S 812 00:36:49,242 --> 00:36:51,511 TELLING ME ABOUT THIS IS A GUY THAT WANTS HIS 813 00:36:51,511 --> 00:36:53,179 FAMILY BACK.'" >> Reporter: JOHN SAID HE'D BEEN 814 00:36:53,179 --> 00:36:57,083 LIED TO. HE FELT HORRIBLE 815 00:36:57,083 --> 00:36:59,119 AND THEN HE MADE THIS REQUEST. >> HE GOES, "IF IT'S POSSIBLE," 816 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:04,157 HE GOES, "I'D REALLY LIKE TO MEET YOUR SON. 817 00:37:04,157 --> 00:37:05,492 SO I TURNED AND I SAID TO HIM, I SAID, "I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD 818 00:37:05,492 --> 00:37:06,726 BE A GOOD IDEA." HE GOES, "I JUST WANT TO 819 00:37:06,726 --> 00:37:08,161 APOLOGIZE TO HIM." I GO, "LET ME TALK TO MY WIFE, 820 00:37:08,161 --> 00:37:13,433 LET ME TALK TO HIM AND THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO 821 00:37:13,433 --> 00:37:16,503 THEM." >> Reporter: BELIEVE IT OR NOT, 822 00:37:16,503 --> 00:37:18,838 ISAIAH EVENTUALLY AGREED THE TWO MEN, THE HUSBAND AND THE 823 00:37:18,838 --> 00:37:24,277 PARAMOUR, MET AT A BUFFALO WILD WINGS RESTAURANT 824 00:37:24,277 --> 00:37:29,883 >> THIS IS UNORTHODOX, WHAT DOES ISAIAH TELL YOU? 825 00:37:29,883 --> 00:37:32,819 >> IT WAS KIND OF SAD. EXCUSE ME. 826 00:37:32,819 --> 00:37:35,355 IT WAS KINDA SAD YOU KNOW, HE WANTED TO KEEP HIS 827 00:37:35,355 --> 00:37:42,295 FAMILY HE LOVED HIS SON 828 00:37:42,295 --> 00:37:43,363 HE WANTED TO BE WITH HIS SON AND HE DIDN'T WANNA GET 829 00:37:43,363 --> 00:37:46,700 DIVORCED >> DID YOU FEEL GUILTY 830 00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:48,835 >> YEAH, YEAH. I JUST, YOU KNOW - 831 00:37:48,835 --> 00:37:50,136 MEN DO IT ALL THE TIME TO PEOPLE 832 00:37:50,136 --> 00:37:51,404 YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CHEAT ON 'EM WITH SOMEBODY ELSE'S WIFE. 833 00:37:51,404 --> 00:37:54,507 AND, YOU KNOW, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT 834 00:37:54,507 --> 00:37:58,945 YOU KNOW, BUT HERE I AM, SENSITIVE -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE A 835 00:37:58,945 --> 00:38:03,149 DAUGHTER AND I'M, LIKE, "WOW." 836 00:38:03,149 --> 00:38:06,920 I'M, LIKE, WHAT DO I SAY? YOU KNOW, I SAID TO HIM, 837 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,355 "LISTEN, I APOLOGIZE." I SAID, "I DON'T -- YOU KNOW, I 838 00:38:08,355 --> 00:38:09,589 DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY." YOU KNOW, THE GUY WAS CRYING 839 00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:14,527 HIMSELF. YOU KNOW, POURING HIS HEART OUT. 840 00:38:14,527 --> 00:38:15,695 >> DID YOU FEEL LIKE AFTER MEETING FACE TO FACE THAT MAYBE 841 00:38:15,695 --> 00:38:19,332 HE WASN'T THE MONSTER SHE WAS PORTRAYING - 842 00:38:19,332 --> 00:38:21,034 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. HE WASN'T A MONSTER. 843 00:38:21,034 --> 00:38:24,104 HE WAS A GREAT GUY >> Reporter: ISAIAH MIGHT HAVE 844 00:38:24,104 --> 00:38:27,607 BEEN A GREAT GUY BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH TO KEEP 845 00:38:27,607 --> 00:38:29,075 VALERIE AND JOHN APART >> COMING UP - 846 00:38:29,075 --> 00:38:31,511 >> I WAS SO IN LOVE WITH HER THAT ANYTHING SHE WANTED ME -- I 847 00:38:31,511 --> 00:38:33,380 WOULD DO, I WOULD DO >> ANYTHING FOR LOVE 848 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:35,248 HOW ABOUT MURDER >> SHE SAYS "WE GOTTA GET RID OF 849 00:38:35,248 --> 00:38:55,335 HIM. SOMETHING'S GOTTA HAPPEN. MAYBE YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO 850 00:38:55,335 --> 00:38:57,404 >> Reporter: BY MARCH 2018, JOHN THOUGHT HE WAS OVER VALERIE. 851 00:38:57,404 --> 00:39:01,474 BUT IT SEEMED VALERIE WASN'T OVER HIM 852 00:39:01,474 --> 00:39:03,009 AFTER HE SAYS SHE POINTED A GUN AT HIS HEAD, JOHN BROKE UP WITH 853 00:39:03,009 --> 00:39:04,344 HER. STILL, HE SAYS SHE KEPT CALLING 854 00:39:04,344 --> 00:39:08,181 HIM, SO HE FILED A RESTRAINING ORDER. 855 00:39:08,181 --> 00:39:11,418 SHE VIOLATED THE RESTRAINING ORDER BY COMING INTO CONTACT 856 00:39:11,418 --> 00:39:12,719 WITH YOU >> CORRECT, CORRECT. 857 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,621 SHE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO COME NEAR ME OR MY DAUGHTER OR CONTACT ME 858 00:39:14,621 --> 00:39:17,390 AT THE TIME. >> Reporter: JOHN TURNED HER IN 859 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:21,861 AGAIN, AND POLICE ARRESTED VALERIE. 860 00:39:21,861 --> 00:39:27,467 SHE NOW FACED CRIMINAL CHARGES COURTROOM READY TO TESTIFY 861 00:39:27,467 --> 00:39:30,537 AGAINST HIS EX-GIRLFRIEND, HE SUDDENLY FELT OVERWHELMED BY HER 862 00:39:30,537 --> 00:39:33,773 MERE PRESENCE. >> SHE WAS STARING AT ME FROM 863 00:39:33,773 --> 00:39:36,042 ACROSS THE ROOM, AND THE FEELINGS STARTED, THE FIREWORKS 864 00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:37,377 FROM ACROSS THE ROOM I FELT -- >> Reporter: WOW 865 00:39:37,377 --> 00:39:39,879 WHILE YOU'RE AT A HEARING OVER A RESTRAINING ORDER, YOU'RE HAVING 866 00:39:39,879 --> 00:39:43,917 FIREWORKS IN THE - >> IN THE COURTROOM. 867 00:39:43,917 --> 00:39:46,553 >> Reporter: THE GOOD KIND >> YEP, SHE WAS GIVING ME EYES 868 00:39:46,553 --> 00:39:47,887 LOOKING AT ME, STARING AT ME SO I FELT THAT FEELING AGAIN 869 00:39:47,887 --> 00:39:49,489 >> Reporter: NOTHING LIKE A RESTRAINING ORDER HEARING TO GET 870 00:39:49,489 --> 00:39:52,659 THE FIRES BURNING AGAIN. >> CORRECT 871 00:39:52,659 --> 00:39:57,097 SO THAT'S WHERE IT LED FROM THERE ON 872 00:39:57,097 --> 00:40:00,333 >> Reporter: AS THOSE EMOTIONAL FIREWORKS WERE POPPING, 873 00:40:00,333 --> 00:40:03,203 SOMETHING ELSE STUCK IN HIS MIND, JOHN SAYS VALERIE'S DAD 874 00:40:03,203 --> 00:40:07,040 APPROACHED HIM THAT SAME DAY AND ASKED HIM TO RECONSIDER. 875 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,375 >> HE SAYS, "SHE'S A POLICE OFFICER. 876 00:40:08,375 --> 00:40:09,843 SHE MIGHT LOSE HER JOB OVER THIS 877 00:40:09,843 --> 00:40:12,045 COULD YOU HELP US OUT? "COULD YOU JUST, LIKE, DROP THE 878 00:40:12,045 --> 00:40:14,614 RESTRAINING ORDER SO WE CAN MOVE ON?" 879 00:40:14,614 --> 00:40:16,850 >> Reporter: DESPITE EVERYTHING THAT HAD HAPPENED BETWEEN THEM, 880 00:40:16,850 --> 00:40:24,190 JOHN SAYS HE DIDN'T WANT VALERIE TO LOSE HER JOB. 881 00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:25,658 >> I JUST TOLD 'EM, I SAID, "LISTEN, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T 882 00:40:25,658 --> 00:40:26,926 HAPPEN THIS WAY. SO I TOLD 'EM I'D MADE THE WHOLE 883 00:40:26,926 --> 00:40:28,194 THING UP >> Reporter: IN COURT? 884 00:40:28,194 --> 00:40:29,396 >> IN COURT. >> Reporter: SO YOU'RE NOW 885 00:40:29,396 --> 00:40:31,965 ADMITTING TO LYING IN COURT? >> CORRECT 886 00:40:31,965 --> 00:40:36,202 >> Reporter: ONCE AGAIN, LOVE CONQUERED ALL. 887 00:40:36,202 --> 00:40:39,939 THE JUDGE DROPPED THE CHARGES. JOHN AND VALERIE LEFT COURT, AND 888 00:40:39,939 --> 00:40:43,877 THEN BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY GOT BACK TOGETHER. 889 00:40:43,877 --> 00:40:47,380 DID YOU THINK, "MAYBE THIS TIME WE'LL STAY TOGETHER" 890 00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:49,349 >> WELL, SHE SAID TO ME -- I'LL NEVER FORGET IT. 891 00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:50,617 SHE SAID TO ME, "YOU KNOW WHAT?" WE GOT THINGS RIGHT NOW. 892 00:40:50,617 --> 00:40:53,853 LET'S PUT ALL THIS BEHIND US AND MOVE FORWARD." 893 00:40:53,853 --> 00:40:55,622 SO I'M SAYING, "OH, MY GOD MAYBE EVERYTHING'S BEHIND US 894 00:40:55,622 --> 00:40:58,925 LET'S GIVE IT ONE MORE SHOT. >> Reporter: AND FOR THE REST OF 895 00:40:58,925 --> 00:41:01,061 2018, THINGS WENT WELL FOR THE COUPLE FOR THE MOST PART 896 00:41:01,061 --> 00:41:05,131 JOHN MOVED IN WITH VALERIE AND FORMED A SPECIAL BOND WITH HER 897 00:41:05,131 --> 00:41:07,100 SON SAL. >> HERE I GOT VALERIE WHERE I 898 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:12,505 WANT HER, HER TWO KIDS EVERYTHING'S PERFECT 899 00:41:12,505 --> 00:41:15,375 WE'RE LIKE A FAMILY," WHICH I ALWAYS WANTED. 900 00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:16,943 >> Reporter: WELL, NOT EXACTLY PERFECT, VALERIE REFUSED TO LET 901 00:41:16,943 --> 00:41:19,112 JOHN'S DAUGHTER LIVE WITH THEM SO JOHN PERSUADED HER TO GO LIVE 902 00:41:19,112 --> 00:41:23,216 WITH SOME FRIENDS NEARBY, ALL BECAUSE OF VALERIE 903 00:41:23,216 --> 00:41:27,520 >> I WAS SO IN LOVE WITH HER THAT ANYTHING SHE SAID, I WOULD 904 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,255 BELIEVE. ANYTHING SHE WANTED ME I WOULD 905 00:41:29,255 --> 00:41:31,524 DO, I WOULD DO SHE WOULD SAY, "JUMP," I WOULD 906 00:41:31,524 --> 00:41:33,293 SAY, "HOW HIGH?" >> Reporter: THEN, SOMETHING 907 00:41:33,293 --> 00:41:35,995 HAPPENED TO VALERIE. SHE WAS BADLY INJURED ON THE 908 00:41:35,995 --> 00:41:38,565 JOB. AN INMATE SHE WAS TRANSPORTING 909 00:41:38,565 --> 00:41:40,800 PHYSICALLY ATTACKED AND ATTEMPTED TO SEXUALLY ASSAULT 910 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,204 HER. HER SHOULDER WAS ALMOST BROKEN 911 00:41:44,204 --> 00:41:45,939 AND SHE HAD SURGERY. >> SHE WAS IN BED FOR, LIKE, 912 00:41:45,939 --> 00:41:50,443 THREE WEEKS, I HAD TO TAKE CARE OF HER. 913 00:41:50,443 --> 00:41:53,813 SHE STARTED TAKING MEDICATION, XANAX, ZOLOFT, PAINKILLERS 914 00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:56,216 SHE WAS LOSING WEIGHT. >> Reporter: ON TOP OF HER 915 00:41:56,216 --> 00:42:00,053 INJURY, JOHN SAYS VALERIE'S DIVORCE FROM ISAIAH STARTED TO 916 00:42:00,053 --> 00:42:02,889 GET UGLY SHE SEEMED EVEN MORE ON EDGE 917 00:42:02,889 --> 00:42:05,759 THAN BEFORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN SHE LEARNED ISAIAH WOULD LIKELY GET 918 00:42:05,759 --> 00:42:08,528 SOME OF HER POLICE PENSION WITH THAT, JOHN SAYS SOMETHING 919 00:42:08,528 --> 00:42:12,065 SNAPPED. >> SO THIS IS WHEN IT ALL 920 00:42:12,065 --> 00:42:14,501 STARTED WHERE SHE SAID TO ME, "COURT'S COMING UP IN ANOTHER 921 00:42:14,501 --> 00:42:19,572 MONTH AND A HALF HE'S GOT TO GO 922 00:42:19,572 --> 00:42:20,840 I SAID, "WHERE'S HE GOING? "NO -- 923 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,242 >> Reporter: HER HUSBAND >> HER HUSBAND. "HE'S GOT TO 924 00:42:22,242 --> 00:42:23,209 GO." >> Reporter: "GOT TO GO," 925 00:42:23,209 --> 00:42:24,477 MEANING, LIKE -- >> THAT'S WHAT I SAID. 926 00:42:24,477 --> 00:42:29,115 I SAID, "WHERE'S HE GOING? >> Reporter: DOWN THE ROAD 927 00:42:29,115 --> 00:42:31,151 >> ON VACATION >> Reporter: OR GOT TO GO 12 928 00:42:31,151 --> 00:42:33,253 FEET UNDER >> SO SHE SAYS, "HE'S -- HE'S 929 00:42:33,253 --> 00:42:34,554 GOT TO GO. YOU KNOW, HE CAN'T BE AROUND NO 930 00:42:34,554 --> 00:42:35,889 MORE." SO I'M SAYING, "OH, MY GOD 931 00:42:35,889 --> 00:42:37,691 THIS GIRL'S TAKING MEDICATION. SHE'S TALKING CRAZY NOW. 932 00:42:37,691 --> 00:42:39,626 >> Reporter: JOHN THOUGHT MAYBE VALERIE WAS HAVING SOME SIDE 933 00:42:39,626 --> 00:42:41,394 EFFECTS FROM THOSE PAIN MEDS AND THE TALK ABOUT MURDERING HER 934 00:42:41,394 --> 00:42:45,765 HUSBAND WOULD STOP HE SAYS IT DIDN'T. 935 00:42:45,765 --> 00:42:47,167 >> WELL, SHE SAYS, WE GOT TO GET RID OF HIM 936 00:42:47,167 --> 00:42:49,135 SOMETHING'S GOT TO HAPPEN. MAYBE YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO 937 00:42:49,135 --> 00:42:52,105 COULD DO YOU A FAVOR AND GET RID OF HIM." 938 00:42:52,105 --> 00:42:53,606 >> Reporter: SO SHE'S TALKING AGAIN LIKE THE - 939 00:42:53,606 --> 00:42:55,208 >> ABOUT MURDERING HIM, SO SHE CAN KEEP THE HOUSE AND KEEP HER 940 00:42:55,208 --> 00:42:57,177 PENSION AND MOVE ON. >> Reporter: DO YOU THINK SHE'S 941 00:42:57,177 --> 00:43:01,281 SERIOUS WHEN SHE SAYS MURDER >> AT THE BEGINNING, I DIDN'T 942 00:43:01,281 --> 00:43:03,049 THINK SO, BUT THEN IT GOT WORSE. THEN IT STARTED IN EVERY DAY. 943 00:43:03,049 --> 00:43:05,785 "DID YOU FIND SOMEBODY DID YOU SEE SOMEBODY 944 00:43:05,785 --> 00:43:08,455 AND I SAID, "NO. I SAID, "I DON'T KNOW. 945 00:43:08,455 --> 00:43:11,291 >> Reporter: AT THE SAME TIME SHE WAS ASKING FOR SOMEONE TO 946 00:43:11,291 --> 00:43:14,828 KILL HER HUSBAND, JOHN SAYS VALERIE HAD BECOME EVEN MORE 947 00:43:14,828 --> 00:43:19,632 FIXATED ON HIS DAUGHTER AND THE ATTENTION HE WAS GIVING HER. 948 00:43:19,632 --> 00:43:23,103 PODCASTER ANA GARCIA >> VALERIE'S JEALOUSY, I MEAN, 949 00:43:23,103 --> 00:43:28,842 WAS OUT OF CONTROL SHE WAS CONSTANTLY SEARCHING ON 950 00:43:28,842 --> 00:43:31,678 SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE HIS DAUGHTER WAS, WHAT SHE WAS DOING, WHAT 951 00:43:31,678 --> 00:43:35,715 SHE WAS SAYING WHY WAS VALERIE SO OBSESSED? 952 00:43:35,715 --> 00:43:38,251 >> Reporter: SO OBSESSED, JOHN SAYS, THAT SHE EVEN ASKED HIM TO 953 00:43:38,251 --> 00:43:42,856 COVER UP A TATTOO OF HIS DAUGHTER'S NAME ON HIS ARM 954 00:43:42,856 --> 00:43:45,625 >> VALERIE JUST DIDN'T WANT THAT TATTOO ON MY ARM ANYMORE 955 00:43:45,625 --> 00:43:48,161 AND SHE SAYS, "IF YOU WANT TO BE WITH ME AND MY KIDS, YOU GOT TO 956 00:43:48,161 --> 00:43:49,829 COVER THAT NAME UP." AND I WAS CONFUSED 957 00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:53,366 >> Reporter: YOU HAVE TO COVER UP THE NAME OF YOUR OWN DAUGHTER 958 00:43:53,366 --> 00:43:55,268 FOR VALERIE. >> CORRECT 959 00:43:55,268 --> 00:43:57,537 CORRECT. >> Reporter: AND JOHN DID IT 960 00:43:57,537 --> 00:44:00,240 THIS NOW BLACKED OUT AREA IS WHERE HIS DAUGHTER'S NAME USED 961 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,776 TO BE. >> I WAS LIVING UNDER HER ROOF 962 00:44:02,776 --> 00:44:05,712 WITH HER I HAD TO LISTEN TO HER ORDERS, 963 00:44:05,712 --> 00:44:07,947 WHAT TO DO, OTHERWISE SHE WOULD LOCK ME OUT OF THE HOUSE 964 00:44:07,947 --> 00:44:09,482 SHE'D MAKE ME SLEEP IN MY CAR, WHICH I DID. 965 00:44:09,482 --> 00:44:14,888 >> Reporter: JOHN'S FRIEND MARK SAYS HE COULDN'T BELIEVE THE 966 00:44:14,888 --> 00:44:17,057 EXTREMES JOHN WAS WILLING TO GO TO FOR VALERIE 967 00:44:17,057 --> 00:44:18,425 >> AT A CERTAIN POINT, I GOT ANGRY AT JOHN. 968 00:44:18,425 --> 00:44:21,861 I SAID, "YOU'RE TELLING ME SHE SAID THAT ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER 969 00:44:21,861 --> 00:44:27,100 AND YOU'RE STICKING AROUND?" IT'S LIKE, "IF THIS IS REALLY 970 00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,368 HAPPENING, JOHN, YOU GOT TO DRAW THE LINE AND GET THE HELL OUT OF 971 00:44:28,368 --> 00:44:31,237 THERE. IT'S RIDICULOUS. 972 00:44:31,237 --> 00:44:32,605 IT'S NONNEGOTIABLE." >> Reporter: WHAT DID HE SAY 973 00:44:32,605 --> 00:44:34,207 >> HE DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE >> Reporter: JOHN WAS STAYING IN 974 00:44:34,207 --> 00:44:37,844 THE RELATIONSHIP BUT VALERIE'S STRANGE OBSESSION 975 00:44:37,844 --> 00:44:42,349 WITH HIS DAUGHTER WAS ABOUT TAKE A VERY DANGEROUS TURN. 976 00:44:42,349 --> 00:44:47,787 >> COMING UP - A SECOND MURDER PLOT 977 00:44:47,787 --> 00:44:49,222 >> SHE WAS LIKE, "YOU KNOW WHAT? IF YOUR DAUGHTER WAS DEAD TOO, 978 00:44:49,222 --> 00:44:51,191 WE WOULD BE TOGETHER AND BE HAPPY WITH MY TWO CHILDREN." 979 00:44:51,191 --> 00:44:52,726 >> Reporter: THIS IS YOUR DAUGHTER 980 00:44:52,726 --> 00:44:55,662 >> I SAID, "I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MY 981 00:44:55,662 --> 00:44:55,895 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MY DAUGHTER." 982 00:45:14,948 --> 00:45:18,852 RELATIONSHIP WITH VALERIE HAD VEERED INTO CRAZY TERRITORY. 983 00:45:18,852 --> 00:45:22,088 BUT THEN HE SAYS IT ALL GOT EVEN SCARIER. 984 00:45:22,088 --> 00:45:24,124 AS VALERIE BECAME MORE OBSESSED WITH HIS DAUGHTER, HE SAYS SHE 985 00:45:24,124 --> 00:45:28,661 ADDED ANOTHER PERSON TO HER HIT LIST 986 00:45:28,661 --> 00:45:34,934 >> SHE'S LIKE, "YOU KNOW WHAT? IF -- IF -- IF YOUR DAUGHTER WAS 987 00:45:34,934 --> 00:45:37,170 DEAD TOO, WE WOULD HAVE -- WE WOULD HAVE OUR FAMILY TOGETHER 988 00:45:37,170 --> 00:45:38,672 ISAIAH'D BE GONE, YOUR DAUGHTER'D BE GONE 989 00:45:38,672 --> 00:45:41,808 WE WOULD BE TOGETHER AND BE HAPPY WITH MY TWO CHILDREN." 990 00:45:41,808 --> 00:45:43,243 SO I'M SAYING TO MYSELF, "SHE -- >> Reporter: THIS IS YOUR 991 00:45:43,243 --> 00:45:45,612 DAUGHTER >> I SAID, "SHE'S, LIKE -- 992 00:45:45,612 --> 00:45:47,414 LOSING HER ROCKER NOW. LIKE I DON'T -- I DON' 993 00:45:47,414 --> 00:45:48,915 UNDERSTAND WHAT -- YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MY 994 00:45:48,915 --> 00:45:50,183 DAUGHTER >> Reporter: WERE YOU 995 00:45:50,183 --> 00:45:51,451 ENTERTAINING THE THOUGHT AT ALL OF HELPING HER KILL HER HUSBAND? 996 00:45:51,451 --> 00:45:52,419 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> Reporter: ARE YOU 997 00:45:52,419 --> 00:45:53,620 ENTERTAINING THE THOUGHT OF -- AT ALL OF HAVING - 998 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:55,221 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> Reporter: -- YOUR DAUGHTER 999 00:45:55,221 --> 00:45:56,489 KILLED >> NO, NOT AT ALL. 1000 00:45:56,489 --> 00:45:57,824 THAT'S THE LOVE OF MY LIFE >> Reporter: IT SOUNDS - 1001 00:45:57,824 --> 00:45:59,292 >> WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS, YOU'RE IN -- 1002 00:45:59,292 --> 00:46:00,593 >> Reporter: -- ALMOST LIKE TOO HARD - 1003 00:46:00,593 --> 00:46:02,028 >> -- YOU'RE IN -- >> Reporter: -- TO BELIEVE 1004 00:46:02,028 --> 00:46:03,496 >> -- YOU'RE IN LOVE WITH SOMEBODY 1005 00:46:03,496 --> 00:46:04,798 AND YOU HEAR EVERYTHING -- CRAZY THINGS THAT THEY DID 1006 00:46:04,798 --> 00:46:08,134 AND NOW, THIS IS JUST LIKE ONE MORE CRAZY STORY 1007 00:46:08,134 --> 00:46:09,502 AND YOU'RE, LIKE, "OH, MY GOD, HERE WE GO AGAIN." 1008 00:46:09,502 --> 00:46:11,137 >> Reporter: WOULDN'T THIS BE THE POINT WHERE YOU WOULD WALK 1009 00:46:11,137 --> 00:46:12,472 OUT THE DOOR AND SAY, "I'M NEVER GONNA SEE THIS WOMAN AGAIN"? 1010 00:46:12,472 --> 00:46:14,341 >> I KNOW TOMORROW'S GONNA BE A BETTER DAY WITH THE BETTER 1011 00:46:14,341 --> 00:46:19,746 VALERIE, THE GOOD VALERIE, AND THIS IS GONNA BLOW OVER. 1012 00:46:19,746 --> 00:46:21,448 >> Reporter: BUT IT DIDN'T BLOW OVER 1013 00:46:21,448 --> 00:46:24,517 >> IT GOT SO BAD AT ONE POINT WHERE I HAD TO LIE TO VALERIE 1014 00:46:24,517 --> 00:46:29,189 AND TELL HER THAT MY DAUGHTER WAS LIVING WITH HER MOTHER DOWN 1015 00:46:29,189 --> 00:46:32,058 AT THE JERSEY SHORE, THAT I DON'T SEE HER NO MORE, TO KEEP 1016 00:46:32,058 --> 00:46:34,060 HER OUT OF THE PICTURE >> Reporter: HIS DAUGHTER WAS 1017 00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:39,065 ACTUALLY STILL NEARBY IN QUEENS. AT THIS POINT JOHN SAYS HE MADE 1018 00:46:39,065 --> 00:46:43,703 A DECISION, NOT TO GO TO POLICE, BUT TO CONTINUE MAKING STUFF UP, 1019 00:46:43,703 --> 00:46:45,405 HOPING VALERIE'S TALK OF KILLING ISAIAH WOULD END 1020 00:46:45,405 --> 00:46:49,476 SO JOHN SAYS HE TOLD VALERIE HE KNEW SOMEONE WHO COULD DO THE 1021 00:46:49,476 --> 00:46:52,712 "HIT" FOR $7,000 >> Reporter: AND VALERIE'S GONNA 1022 00:46:52,712 --> 00:46:56,216 GO GET CASH, BUT YOU SAY - >> I TOLD HER THE NUMBER AND I 1023 00:46:56,216 --> 00:46:58,985 SAID TO MYSELF, "MAYBE SHE'LL SAY, FORGET ABOUT IT." 1024 00:46:58,985 --> 00:47:00,887 BUT, NO, WE WERE IN THE CAR THAT DAY. 1025 00:47:00,887 --> 00:47:03,089 SHE TOLD ME TO PULL OVER SHE RAN INTO TD BANK AND SHE GOT 1026 00:47:03,089 --> 00:47:06,226 THE MONEY OUT. AND THEN -- THEN AGAIN, I'M BACK 1027 00:47:06,226 --> 00:47:08,194 ON THE WHEEL GOING, "WHAT AM I GOING TO DO NOW" 1028 00:47:08,194 --> 00:47:13,600 >> Reporter: SO SHE TOOK OUT THE $7,000 1029 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:19,372 >> SHE TOOK OUT THE 7,000. >> AND YOU TRIED TO GET HE 1030 00:47:19,372 --> 00:47:21,608 AGAIN TO PUT ON THE BRAKES, >> RIGHT IN THE CAR. 1031 00:47:21,608 --> 00:47:23,043 >> Reporter: AT THAT MOMENT, JOHN SAYS HE DECIDED TO MAKE 1032 00:47:23,043 --> 00:47:25,045 ANOTHER EXCUSE TO TRY AND STALL VALERIE. 1033 00:47:25,045 --> 00:47:26,246 >> LISTEN. YOU KNOW WHAT? 1034 00:47:26,246 --> 00:47:27,614 THE GUY DOESN'T WANT THE MONEY" AFTER SHE GOT IT OUT 1035 00:47:27,614 --> 00:47:29,115 I SAID, "I JUST SPOKE TO HIM HE WANTS GOLD COINS. 1036 00:47:29,115 --> 00:47:30,583 AND SHE GOT ON THE PHONE, TO FIND GOLD COINS, WHICH SHE DID 1037 00:47:30,583 --> 00:47:31,718 >> Reporter: IN YOUR MIND, ARE YOU THINKING, "WOW, SHE IS 1038 00:47:31,718 --> 00:47:33,053 DESPERATE TO CARRY OUT THESE MURDERS" 1039 00:47:33,053 --> 00:47:37,891 >> CORRECT IT'S GETTING TO A POINT WHERE 1040 00:47:37,891 --> 00:47:42,328 IT'S GETTING, LIKE, REALLY BAD >> Reporter: IT SEEMED JOHN WAS 1041 00:47:42,328 --> 00:47:43,930 IN WAY OVER HIS HEAD >> THIS IS THE 106th PRECINCT 1042 00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:45,632 HERE SO SHE USED TO WORK AROUND THE 1043 00:47:45,632 --> 00:47:47,133 CORNER SO WE USED TO MEET IN THE 1044 00:47:47,133 --> 00:47:49,235 PARKING LOT AND COME HERE TO EAT. 1045 00:47:49,235 --> 00:47:52,272 >> Reporter: AND NOW HE WORRIED VALERIE, AN EXPERIENCED 1046 00:47:52,272 --> 00:47:59,179 INVESTIGATOR, MIGHT GET FRUSTRATED WAITING AROUND AND 1047 00:47:59,179 --> 00:48:00,680 FIND HER OWN HIT MAN, SOMEON WHO WOULD ACTUALLY KILL ISAIAH 1048 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,516 AND JOHN'S DAUGHTER. >> I WAS AT MY WIT'S END 1049 00:48:03,516 --> 00:48:07,354 YOU KNOW, I HAD MY DAUGHTER HIDING 1050 00:48:07,354 --> 00:48:09,022 MY DAUGHTER WAS UPSET, SO I KNEW THIS WAS A SERIOUS SITUATION, SO 1051 00:48:09,022 --> 00:48:14,294 I HAD TO DO SOMETHING. >> Reporter: THAT'S WHEN HE 1052 00:48:14,294 --> 00:48:15,628 FINALLY MADE THE DECISION TO CALL THE AUTHORITIES, IN THIS 1053 00:48:15,628 --> 00:48:19,866 CASE, THE FBI. >> Reporter: HOW DO THEY 1054 00:48:19,866 --> 00:48:23,603 CORROBORATE YOUR STORY YOU KNOW, DECIDING IF THEY 1055 00:48:23,603 --> 00:48:25,038 SHOULD TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY? >> WELL, THEY WANTED TO SEE FOR 1056 00:48:25,038 --> 00:48:26,339 THEMSELVES YOU KNOW, THE FBI ALWAYS WANTS 1057 00:48:26,339 --> 00:48:28,041 TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S FINE AND THEY WANTED TO SEE FOR 1058 00:48:28,041 --> 00:48:30,043 THEMSELVES IF THE STORY WAS LEGIT OR I WAS A DISGRUNTLED 1059 00:48:30,043 --> 00:48:36,216 BOYFRIEND. >> Reporter: TO HEAR FOR 1060 00:48:36,216 --> 00:48:38,284 THEMSELVES, THE FBI AGENTS ASKED HIM TO TAKE A HUGE STEP, CARRY A 1061 00:48:38,284 --> 00:48:41,788 RECORDING DEVICE AND TAPE HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH VALERIE 1062 00:48:41,788 --> 00:48:46,459 HE AGREED, BUT WAS NERVOUS >> HERE I AM WALKING IN THE 1063 00:48:46,459 --> 00:48:48,261 HOUSE WITH A WIRE AND I WAS SCARED AT THIS -- IN THE SAME 1064 00:48:48,261 --> 00:48:49,763 TIME YOU KNOW, SHE WAS STILL A POLICE 1065 00:48:49,763 --> 00:48:51,931 OFFICER, AND I JUST HAD TO WORRY. 1066 00:48:51,931 --> 00:48:53,366 >> Reporter: HE SAYS HE CONTINUED TO PLAY THE ROLE OF 1067 00:48:53,366 --> 00:48:56,603 THE FAITHFUL BOYFRIEND, EVEN PRETENDING HE WAS OKAY WITH 1068 00:48:56,603 --> 00:48:58,238 HAVING HIS OWN DAUGHTER KILLED YOU REALLY HAVE TO KEEP UP THIS 1069 00:48:58,238 --> 00:49:01,207 RUSE >> I COULD HAVE GOT AN ACADEMY 1070 00:49:01,207 --> 00:49:08,281 AWARD FOR THIS IT WAS JUST, LIKE, UNBELIEVABLE 1071 00:49:08,281 --> 00:49:10,016 WHERE I HAD TO LIVE WITH HER AND LET HER KEEP TALKING AND SHOW 1072 00:49:10,016 --> 00:49:11,484 THE FBI THAT THIS IS WHAT SHE WANTED TO HAVE DONE. 1073 00:49:11,484 --> 00:49:15,789 >> Reporter: TO PROVE HIS COMMITMENT, JOHN AGREED TO GET 1074 00:49:15,789 --> 00:49:17,490 MATCHING TATTOOS WITH VALERIE THAT READ "TIL DEATH." 1075 00:49:17,490 --> 00:49:19,059 HE WAS IN DEEP >> Reporter: DID YOU FEEL LIKE 1076 00:49:19,059 --> 00:49:21,461 YOU WERE SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY? 1077 00:49:21,461 --> 00:49:28,201 >> THAT'S THAT I REALLY WAS DOING. 1078 00:49:28,201 --> 00:49:30,036 YOU KNOW, I WAS SLEEPING WITH A WOMAN THAT I WAS IN LOVE WITH 1079 00:49:30,036 --> 00:49:31,471 THAT WANTED TO HARM MY DAUGHTER. AND HERE I AM TAKING CARE OF HER 1080 00:49:31,471 --> 00:49:33,840 CHILDREN IT'S JUST LIKE -- IT WAS ROUGH 1081 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,876 >> Reporter: JOHN STARTE RECORDING VALERIE ON 1082 00:49:36,876 --> 00:49:38,478 MAY 8th, 2019. >> WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TALK 1083 00:49:38,478 --> 00:49:41,548 ABOUT JOHN WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT 1084 00:49:41,548 --> 00:49:45,618 >> Reporter: IN THIS CURSE-FILLED EXCHANGE, JOHN 1085 00:49:45,618 --> 00:49:52,058 TELLS VALERIE HE JUST GOT A MESSAGE FROM THE HIT MAN 1086 00:49:52,058 --> 00:49:56,296 THE MURDERS WERE SET TO HAPPEN >> I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM THE 1087 00:49:56,296 --> 00:49:59,366 [ BLEEP ] GUY. >> OH, A TEXT MESSAGE SAYING 1088 00:49:59,366 --> 00:50:02,202 WHAT >> THIS WEEKEND. 1089 00:50:02,202 --> 00:50:03,503 >> SO LET ME SEE IT. >> Reporter: NO, HE, HE TEXT ME 1090 00:50:03,503 --> 00:50:06,272 EARLIER I ERASED IT, I DON'T WANT TO KEEP IT ON MY PHONE. 1091 00:50:06,272 --> 00:50:07,941 >> LISTEN, I'M REALLY [ BLEEP ] STRESSED OUT ABOUT THIS, STOP, 1092 00:50:07,941 --> 00:50:09,409 YOU'RE LIKE [ BLEEP ] ACTING >> YOU'RE REALLY STRESSED OUT 1093 00:50:09,409 --> 00:50:11,177 ABOUT THIS >> YEAH, YEAH. 1094 00:50:11,177 --> 00:50:12,245 >> EVERY WEEK IT'S BEEN HAPPENING AND NOTHING WOULD 1095 00:50:12,245 --> 00:50:13,680 [ BLEEP ] HAPPEN >> IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS 1096 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:19,219 WEEKEND, I'M TELLING YOU IT'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS WEEKEND 1097 00:50:19,219 --> 00:50:20,587 >> OKAY, GOOD. >> Reporter: "OKAY, GOOD?" 1098 00:50:20,587 --> 00:50:22,088 VALERIE SEEMED HAPPY THE "HITS" WERE HAPPENING THAT COMING 1099 00:50:22,088 --> 00:50:23,289 WEEKEND. BUT HE TOLD HER THE PLAN MADE 1100 00:50:23,289 --> 00:50:24,524 HIM NERVOUS. >> I THINK ISAIAH AND -- I THINK 1101 00:50:24,524 --> 00:50:26,659 IT'S VERY SUSPICIOUS ON ONE [ BLEEP ] WEEKEND THEY'RE BOTH 1102 00:50:26,659 --> 00:50:30,296 DEAD >> OKAY, SO TAKE CARE OF YOURS 1103 00:50:30,296 --> 00:50:32,032 AND THEN WAIT A MONTH. >> TAKE CARE OF MY DAUGHTER THIS 1104 00:50:32,032 --> 00:50:33,266 WEEKEND, KILL HER THIS WEEKEND AND [ BLEEP ] THEN WAIT A MONTH 1105 00:50:33,266 --> 00:50:34,668 FOR HIM. LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU - 1106 00:50:34,668 --> 00:50:36,569 >> YEAH, OR A WEEK WHAT DO YOU -- WHAT DO YOU WANT 1107 00:50:36,569 --> 00:50:38,004 ME TO TELL YOU >> Reporter: JOHN TOLD VALERIE 1108 00:50:38,004 --> 00:50:41,474 HE WAS WORRIED THAT SOMEONE WOULD CONNECT THE MURDERS BACK 1109 00:50:41,474 --> 00:50:44,711 TO THEM. >> DON'T YOU THINK LIKE THEY'RE 1110 00:50:44,711 --> 00:50:48,214 GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR ME AFTERWARDS ASKING ME [ BLEEP ] 1111 00:50:48,214 --> 00:50:53,853 QUESTIONS, OH, YOUR DAUGHTER WAS JUST KILLED, UH, WHERE ARE YOU 1112 00:50:53,853 --> 00:50:57,023 AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET A EX-HUSBAND ISAIAH WAS JUST 1113 00:50:57,023 --> 00:51:04,431 KILLED WHERE -- WHERE ARE YOU? >> OKAY, AND I'LL SAY WHEREVER 1114 00:51:04,431 --> 00:51:05,699 THE [ BLEEP ] I'M GOING TO BE. WE'LL LIKE -- AND SO WILL YOU, 1115 00:51:05,699 --> 00:51:07,067 WHAT THE [ BLEEP ] >> I'M JUST STRESSING ABOUT IT 1116 00:51:07,067 --> 00:51:08,835 'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. >> YOU SAY THAT EVERY WEEKEND 1117 00:51:08,835 --> 00:51:10,070 FOR THE PAST MONTH, SO >> Reporter: JOHN SAID THE HIT 1118 00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:13,073 MAN WAS MAKING PROGRESS, DOING SURVEILLANCE ON HIS DAUGHTER AND 1119 00:51:13,073 --> 00:51:18,378 SEPARATELY ON ISAIAH >> WELL, LAST SUNDAY HE SCOPED 1120 00:51:18,378 --> 00:51:19,713 IT OUT, HE LOOKED, HE LOOKED, HE WENT DOWN THERE, HE SEARCHED 1121 00:51:19,713 --> 00:51:25,852 WHERE THEY WERE, HE FOUND WHERE THEY WERE. 1122 00:51:25,852 --> 00:51:27,520 HE SEARCHED WHERE ISAIAH WAS AND HE WAS LOOKING FOR THEM. 1123 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,391 THAT'S WHAT HE -- WHAT'S -- WHAT HE DID 1124 00:51:31,391 --> 00:51:32,959 LIKE WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO >> I DON'T GIVE A [ BLEEP ]. 1125 00:51:32,959 --> 00:51:33,993 DO WHATEVER YOU WANT >> Reporter: BUT THEN ANOTHER 1126 00:51:33,993 --> 00:51:36,129 WEEK WENT BY, AND THE DEEDS STILL WEREN'T DONE 1127 00:51:36,129 --> 00:51:39,199 JOHN ASSURED VALERIE IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. 1128 00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:42,969 THEIR ODDLY CASUAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A DOUBLE MURDER WERE 1129 00:51:42,969 --> 00:51:45,739 TURNING MORE AND MORE GHOULISH >> YEAH, WHAT'S THE ISSUE? 1130 00:51:45,739 --> 00:51:48,675 >> WHO DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST ISAIAH OR HER? 1131 00:51:48,675 --> 00:51:52,112 >> WHY YOU ASKING ME WHO DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? 1132 00:51:52,112 --> 00:51:57,884 >> IT DOESN'T MATTER >> OKAY, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER. 1133 00:51:57,884 --> 00:52:01,488 >> THEN ISAIAH, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN 1134 00:52:01,488 --> 00:52:05,692 AND I'M REALLY STRESSED OUT. >> Reporter: VALERIE THEN HAD 1135 00:52:05,692 --> 00:52:08,928 ANOTHER THOUGHT, MAYBE THE "HIT MAN" COULD MAKE ISAIAH'S MURDER 1136 00:52:08,928 --> 00:52:11,331 LOOK LIKE A ROBBERY, POSSIBLY CONNECTED TO THAT FIREWORKS 1137 00:52:11,331 --> 00:52:15,902 BUSINESS SHE SAID HE RAN >> KILLED OVER FIREWORKS 1138 00:52:15,902 --> 00:52:17,671 OR MONEY >> NO, THE MONEY THAT YOU HAVE 1139 00:52:17,671 --> 00:52:19,239 FROM SELLING THEM. >> WHAT LIKE SOMEBODY ROBBED 1140 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,876 HIM? >> EXACTLY 1141 00:52:22,876 --> 00:52:25,278 >> WHY, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES HE CARRY? 1142 00:52:25,278 --> 00:52:27,914 >> THOUSANDS >> YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT UNTIL 1143 00:52:27,914 --> 00:52:29,549 JULY >> NO, IT'S NOW, STARTS IN THE 1144 00:52:29,549 --> 00:52:31,251 BEGINNING OF MAY ACTUALLY, AND GOES ALL THROUGH MAY AND ALL 1145 00:52:31,251 --> 00:52:32,886 THROUGH JUNE AND - >> AND HE HAS THOUSANDS OF 1146 00:52:32,886 --> 00:52:36,623 DOLLARS ON HIM >> YEAH, HE DOES 1147 00:52:36,623 --> 00:52:39,092 >> SO IT'LL LOOK LIKE A ROBBERY THEN WENT BAD. 1148 00:52:39,092 --> 00:52:42,395 >> Reporter: THE "ROBBERY GONE BAD" EXPLANATION MIGHT HAVE 1149 00:52:42,395 --> 00:52:46,466 WORKED FOR ISAIAH'S DEATH, BUT WHAT ABOUT JOHN'S DAUGHTER 1150 00:52:46,466 --> 00:52:49,836 WHAT VALERIE SAID NEXT MUST HAVE BEEN HARD FOR A FATHER TO HEAR 1151 00:52:49,836 --> 00:52:56,509 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK AND WHAT ABOUT HER, SHE DOESN'T 1152 00:52:56,509 --> 00:52:58,478 SELL FIREWORKS >> NO, SHE'S JUST A WHORE. 1153 00:52:58,478 --> 00:53:03,116 >> SO HOW WOULD THAT BE DONE HE DOESN'T WANT TO GO BY SCHOOL. 1154 00:53:03,116 --> 00:53:06,252 >> RUN HER THE [ BLEEP ] OVER, HOW ABOUT THAT 1155 00:53:06,252 --> 00:53:11,424 >> RUN HER OVER? >> SHE SAYS, "WELL, THEN, RUN 1156 00:53:11,424 --> 00:53:12,759 HER THE "F" OVER KILL HER AT THE SCHOOL 1157 00:53:12,759 --> 00:53:14,127 RUN HER OVER MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AN ACCIDENT. 1158 00:53:14,127 --> 00:53:15,395 SO WHEN I WAS -- >> Reporter: MY GOSH 1159 00:53:15,395 --> 00:53:16,796 >> -- HEARING ALL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, I WAS -- MY HEAD WAS 1160 00:53:16,796 --> 00:53:18,231 SPINNING YOU KNOW, HERE I AM IN LOVE WITH 1161 00:53:18,231 --> 00:53:22,135 A GIRL WHAT AM I DOING? 1162 00:53:22,135 --> 00:53:25,071 >> Reporter: THE RECORDINGS SEEMED SO DAMNING, SO EXPLOSIVE. 1163 00:53:25,071 --> 00:53:27,841 STILL, THE FBI DECIDED THEY NEEDED SOMEONE ELSE TO HELP 1164 00:53:27,841 --> 00:53:31,911 THEM IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN THAT SOMEONE 1165 00:53:31,911 --> 00:53:53,433 IS ABLE TO RETURN TO THE SCENE >> THIS IS SPECIAL AGENT GEE, 1166 00:53:53,433 --> 00:53:56,703 FBI. THE DATE IS MAY 17th, 2019 1167 00:53:56,703 --> 00:53:59,005 THE TIME IS -- >> Reporter: MAY 17th, SOMETHING 1168 00:53:59,005 --> 00:54:01,941 MAJOR WAS HAPPENING. FIRST THING THAT MORNING, JOHN 1169 00:54:01,941 --> 00:54:03,443 GOT A CALL FROM THE FBI. >> THEY SAID, "CAN YOU MEET WITH 1170 00:54:03,443 --> 00:54:07,047 US?" I SAID, "SURE. 1171 00:54:07,047 --> 00:54:08,715 THEY SAID, "OKAY COULD YOU WEAR THIS JACKET FOR 1172 00:54:08,715 --> 00:54:13,053 US?" YOU KNOW, IT HAD CAMERAS ON IT 1173 00:54:13,053 --> 00:54:15,422 >> HE IS GOING TO BE CONDUCTING A CONSENSUALLY MONITORED 1174 00:54:15,422 --> 00:54:20,427 CONVERSATION BETWEEN HIMSELF AND VALERIE CINCINELLI 1175 00:54:20,427 --> 00:54:23,163 >> Reporter: THE AGENTS NOW WANTED JOHN TO WEAR THIS JACKET 1176 00:54:23,163 --> 00:54:25,865 IN WHICH THEY'D HIDDEN A CAMERA. HE WASN'T TOLD WHY 1177 00:54:25,865 --> 00:54:31,304 THEY WOULD ONLY SAY HE SHOULD GO ABOUT HIS NORMAL DAY 1178 00:54:31,304 --> 00:54:32,639 JOHN AGREED. >> COME ON, 9:04, BY THE TIME WE 1179 00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:34,541 GET YOU IN THE CAR BY THE TIME WE GET YOU OVER 1180 00:54:34,541 --> 00:54:38,144 THERE. >> SO HE WENT BACK TO VALERIE'S 1181 00:54:38,144 --> 00:54:41,881 HOUSE, PICKED UP HER SON SAL AND DROVE HIM TO SCHOOL. 1182 00:54:41,881 --> 00:54:46,486 >> ARE YOU CRYING? >> NO, I'M NOT 1183 00:54:46,486 --> 00:54:49,522 I'M JUST HAPPY >> BUT HE HAD A FEELING THAT 1184 00:54:49,522 --> 00:54:54,127 THIS WOULD BE THE LAST TIME HE SAW THE YOUNG BOY HE'D GROWN SO 1185 00:54:54,127 --> 00:54:57,430 CLOSE TO >> I LOVE YOU. 1186 00:54:57,430 --> 00:55:04,137 >> I LOVE YOU. AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THE DAY. 1187 00:55:04,137 --> 00:55:07,107 I TOOK HER SON TO -- AND HE SAID TO ME, "I WANNA GO SEE A MOVIE 1188 00:55:07,107 --> 00:55:13,046 AFTER SCHOOL PLEASE DON'T BE LATE PICKING ME 1189 00:55:13,046 --> 00:55:14,514 UP." SORRY. 1190 00:55:14,514 --> 00:55:17,851 >> BUT YOU KNEW? >> I KNEW I'D NEVER SEE HIM 1191 00:55:17,851 --> 00:55:21,054 AGAIN. I HAD TO WALK AWAY FROM HIM. 1192 00:55:21,054 --> 00:55:26,593 >> YOU DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE HIM? >> NO. 1193 00:55:26,593 --> 00:55:29,095 >> Reporter: SOON AFTER, JOHN LEFT A MESSAGE FOR HIS DAUGHTER. 1194 00:55:29,095 --> 00:55:31,865 HE HAD ALREADY SAT HER DOWN A FEW WEEKS EARLIER AND TOLD HER 1195 00:55:31,865 --> 00:55:36,336 EVERYTHING >> DADDY LOVES YOU, I'LL BE 1196 00:55:36,336 --> 00:55:42,075 COMING FOR YOU SOON, WE'LL BE TOGETHER FOREVER 1197 00:55:42,075 --> 00:55:46,880 I LOVE YOU, AND I'M SORRY. YOU JUST BE CAREFUL AND BE SAFE. 1198 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,085 WATCH YOUR SURROUNDINGS, PLEASE, I LOVE YOU 1199 00:55:52,085 --> 00:55:54,354 >> AROUND THAT SAME TIME ON THAT SAME MORNING A MAN 50 MILES AWAY 1200 00:55:54,354 --> 00:55:59,926 WAS GETTING READY TO START HIS DAY. 1201 00:55:59,926 --> 00:56:04,230 >> MY NAME IS ISAIAH CARVALHO. >> YES, VALERIE'S HUSBAND IS 1202 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:06,099 VERY MUCH ALIVE. AND ON THAT DAY, HE COULD NEVER 1203 00:56:06,099 --> 00:56:11,037 HAVE IMAGINED WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN 1204 00:56:11,037 --> 00:56:12,472 >> I WALK OUT OF THE HOUSE OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EYE I 1205 00:56:12,472 --> 00:56:15,709 SEE A CAR CREEPING DOWN THE BLOCK. 1206 00:56:15,709 --> 00:56:19,879 SO I WAS STARTLED AND SCARED AT FIRST. 1207 00:56:19,879 --> 00:56:24,884 THEN THE CAR SPED UP AND STOPPED RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DRIVEWAY 1208 00:56:24,884 --> 00:56:26,720 TWO GUYS IN SUITS GOT OUT OF THE CAR, AND CAME OVER TO ME, AND 1209 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,456 SAID, WE'RE FROM THE FBI >> Reporter: ISAIAH, WHO BY THEN 1210 00:56:29,456 --> 00:56:32,425 HAD MOVED INTO HIS MOM AND STEPDAD'S HOUSE, TOLD THE FBI 1211 00:56:32,425 --> 00:56:35,628 AGENTS TO COME INSIDE. >> I SAT AT THE TABLE. 1212 00:56:35,628 --> 00:56:39,165 AND THEY GO, "WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT YOUR WIFE 1213 00:56:39,165 --> 00:56:41,468 PUT A HIT OUT ON YOU." >> I MEAN, HOW DO YOU EVEN, 1214 00:56:41,468 --> 00:56:44,637 WHAT'S GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND IN THAT MOMENT 1215 00:56:44,637 --> 00:56:48,875 >> I IMMEDIATELY ASKED WHERE MY SON WAS. 1216 00:56:48,875 --> 00:56:56,883 I WAS WORRIED ABOUT HIM. >> DID THEY KNOW 1217 00:56:56,883 --> 00:56:58,385 >> THEY TOLD ME THAT HE WAS SAFE, AND THERE WAS AN FBI AGENT 1218 00:56:58,385 --> 00:57:00,020 WITH HIM AND I WOULD GET HIM LATER ON 1219 00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:01,554 THAT DAY >> Reporter: ISAIAH'S MOM SAT IN 1220 00:57:01,554 --> 00:57:03,823 DISBELIEF AS SHE HEARD THE AGENTS TELL HER SON VALERIE 1221 00:57:03,823 --> 00:57:10,130 WANTED HIM KILLED. >> ARE YOU IN JUST COMPLETE 1222 00:57:10,130 --> 00:57:15,635 SHOCK AT THIS POINT? >> I AM SHOCKED AND HYSTERICALLY 1223 00:57:15,635 --> 00:57:19,606 CRYING BECAUSE WHEN HE FIRST SAID SHE WANTED HIM DEAD, IT 1224 00:57:19,606 --> 00:57:20,874 KIND OF REALLY -- I DIDN'T GRASP IT 1225 00:57:20,874 --> 00:57:22,175 I DON'T KNOW IT WAS LIKE, "WHAT?" 1226 00:57:22,175 --> 00:57:24,110 LIKE - >> HIT MAN 1227 00:57:24,110 --> 00:57:25,679 >> "NO." LIKE, "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING 1228 00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:27,280 ABOUT? >> I SAID, "THIS IS -- 1229 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,748 LIKE, "IS THIS REAL? AND THEY'RE LIKE, "YEAH. 1230 00:57:28,748 --> 00:57:30,417 THEY'RE LIKE, "THIS IS -- SHE WANTED TO HAVE YOU KILLED. 1231 00:57:30,417 --> 00:57:34,054 >> THIS IS VALERIE, AN NYPD OFFICER. 1232 00:57:34,054 --> 00:57:35,522 HOW DO YOU COMPREHEND THAT SHE'S LAW ENFORCEMENT. 1233 00:57:35,522 --> 00:57:39,192 >> I DIDN'T THINK SHE WOULD GO THAT FAR 1234 00:57:39,192 --> 00:57:42,362 >> Reporter: BUT THE FBI WASN'T JUST THERE TO TELL ISAIAH HIS 1235 00:57:42,362 --> 00:57:45,899 WIFE WANTED HIM DEAD, THEY ALSO WANTED HIS HELP. 1236 00:57:45,899 --> 00:57:51,171 >> THEY BROUGHT ME IN, AND THEY HAD ME PARK MY CAR ALONG RIGHT 1237 00:57:51,171 --> 00:57:55,308 OVER HERE. >> Reporter: THE AGENTS AND 1238 00:57:55,308 --> 00:57:56,776 ISAIAH DROVE TO THAT MARINA PARKING LOT NEAR HIS HOM 1239 00:57:56,776 --> 00:57:59,079 AND THEN LAUNCHED THE NEXT PHASE OF THEIR PLAN. 1240 00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:02,382 >> THEY BASICALLY TOLD ME TO GET OUT OF THE CAR 1241 00:58:02,382 --> 00:58:04,484 THEY OPENED THE DOOR >> SO THEY'RE SETTING THE STAGE 1242 00:58:04,484 --> 00:58:06,586 FOR YOUR MURDER? >> YEAH. 1243 00:58:06,586 --> 00:58:10,590 >> FOR PHOTOS? >> ABSOLUTELY. 1244 00:58:10,590 --> 00:58:14,461 THEN THEY PROCEEDED TO TELL ME TO SIT BACK INTO THE CAR AND 1245 00:58:14,461 --> 00:58:17,831 THEY TOOK GLASS AND THREW IT ALL OVER ME AND TOLD ME TO HUNCH 1246 00:58:17,831 --> 00:58:20,900 OVER INTO THE PASSENGER SEAT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE I WAS DEAD 1247 00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,602 >> YOU'RE SITTING IN THE - >> I JUST HAD TO SLUMP OVER LIKE 1248 00:58:22,602 --> 00:58:25,839 THAT AND HAD TO KEEP MY EYES CLOSED 1249 00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:30,643 AND THEY JUST KEPT SNAPPING PICTURES FROM ALL ANGLES 1250 00:58:30,643 --> 00:58:34,848 >> Reporter: BACK AT VALERIE'S HOUSE, JOHN WAS WEARING THAT 1251 00:58:34,848 --> 00:58:36,249 FBI-SUPPLIED JACKET WITH THE HIDDEN CAMERA RECORDING 1252 00:58:36,249 --> 00:58:38,585 EVERYTHING >> DID THE GUYS CALL YOU BACK 1253 00:58:38,585 --> 00:58:41,054 YESTERDAY FROM THE PHONES? >> Reporter: INCLUDING THIS 1254 00:58:41,054 --> 00:58:44,124 MOMENT OF VALERIE SEARCHING HIS DAUGHTER'S SOCIAL MEDIA 1255 00:58:44,124 --> 00:58:46,192 ACCOUNTS >> TONIGHT'S FRIDAY, THAT'S WHEN 1256 00:58:46,192 --> 00:58:51,965 SHE LEAVES, EVERY FRIDAY, TO GO TO QUEENS, EVERY FRIDAY. 1257 00:58:51,965 --> 00:58:54,067 >> YEAH, SO HOW DO YOU KNOW? WHERE SHE IS 1258 00:58:54,067 --> 00:58:56,169 HOW DO YOU KNOW? >> THAT'S HOW I [ BLEEP ] KNOW, 1259 00:58:56,169 --> 00:58:58,304 'CAUSE SHE POSTS IT ALL OVER THE [ BLEEP ] INTERNET, THAT'S HOW I 1260 00:58:58,304 --> 00:59:02,776 KNOW >> THEN MOMENTS LATER, IT CAME 1261 00:59:02,776 --> 00:59:06,713 THAT KNOCK AT THE DOOR WHERE WE BEGAN OUR STORY. 1262 00:59:06,713 --> 00:59:12,018 >> WHO'S THAT? LANDSCAPER 1263 00:59:12,018 --> 00:59:16,189 >> HOW YOU DOING? I'M DETECTIVE FINNEGAN, SUFFOLK 1264 00:59:16,189 --> 00:59:17,357 COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS MY PARTNER, 1265 00:59:17,357 --> 00:59:18,792 DETECTIVE FANDRY >> HI. 1266 00:59:18,792 --> 00:59:20,860 >> OKAY, MIND HAVING A SEAT FOR ME PLEASE? 1267 00:59:20,860 --> 00:59:23,063 >> I'M SORRY TO BE THE ONE TO TELL YOU THAT, BUT ISAIAH WAS 1268 00:59:23,063 --> 00:59:26,866 FOUND DEAD THIS MORNING. >> ARE YOU [ BLEEP ] KIDDING ME? 1269 00:59:26,866 --> 00:59:29,202 >> THE TWO LOCAL DETECTIVES, WHO WERE WORKING WITH THE FBI, 1270 00:59:29,202 --> 00:59:32,072 PLAYED THEIR OWN ROLES THEY SYMPATHETICALLY QUESTIONED 1271 00:59:32,072 --> 00:59:37,177 VALERIE WHILE BOTH THEIR HIDDEN CAMERAS ROLLED 1272 00:59:37,177 --> 00:59:38,745 >> OH, MY GOD. >> ANYBODY WOULD WANNA HURT YOUR 1273 00:59:38,745 --> 00:59:40,313 HUSBAND? >> NO. 1274 00:59:40,313 --> 00:59:44,718 >> Reporter: THEN VALERIE GAVE THEM THAT MADE-UP MOTIVE SHE HAD 1275 00:59:44,718 --> 00:59:46,219 DISCUSSED WITH JOHN, THAT SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO KILL 1276 00:59:46,219 --> 00:59:50,790 ISAIAH OVER THE FIREWORKS BUSINESS 1277 00:59:50,790 --> 00:59:52,058 >> AND I MEAN LIKE BIG-TIME FIREWORKS, AND I KNOW ISAIAH 1278 00:59:52,058 --> 00:59:54,060 SELLS IT FOR HIM >> OKAY, OKAY. 1279 00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:55,729 >> OR LIKE DELIVERS IT FOR HIM OR WHATEVER, THAT'S THE ONLY 1280 00:59:55,729 --> 00:59:57,063 THING. >> HAS HE EVER MENTIONED LIKE 1281 00:59:57,063 --> 01:00:00,066 DID HE SCREW OVER A CUSTOMER, OR WAS SOMEONE MAD AT HIM BECAUSE 1282 01:00:00,066 --> 01:00:02,669 OF THE FIREWORKS >> NO, NO. 1283 01:00:02,669 --> 01:00:04,404 >> Reporter: ONE OF THE DETECTIVES LEFT HIS CARD AND 1284 01:00:04,404 --> 01:00:06,106 SAID THEY'D BE BACK SHORTLY. >> I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT 1285 01:00:06,106 --> 01:00:10,143 TRYING TIME AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT 1286 01:00:10,143 --> 01:00:15,048 >> I FEEL LIKE THIS ISN'T EVEN REAL 1287 01:00:15,048 --> 01:00:16,449 LIKE I MEAN I REALLY DO -- >> IT'S VERY REAL. 1288 01:00:16,449 --> 01:00:19,185 >> YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IF IT WASN'T 1289 01:00:19,185 --> 01:00:20,653 REAL >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 1290 01:00:20,653 --> 01:00:24,224 AGAIN YOU HAVE OUR CONDOLENCES >> BUT THAT WASN'T THE END OF 1291 01:00:24,224 --> 01:00:25,892 THE FBI'S ELABORATE PLAN THEY WERE SENDING ANOTHER 1292 01:00:25,892 --> 01:00:33,500 SURPRISE FOR VALERIE, AND IT WAS ABOUT TO ARRIVE. 1293 01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:36,102 >> COMING UP -- >> I WAS NEVER A MONSTER 1294 01:00:36,102 --> 01:00:38,071 I NEVER MISTREATED HER I NEVER WANTED ANYTHING BAD TO 1295 01:00:38,071 --> 01:00:46,246 HAPPEN TO HER. >> Reporter: AN EMOTIONAL PLEA 1296 01:00:46,246 --> 01:01:04,064 FROM ISAIAH. AND AT VALERIE'S, 1297 01:01:04,064 --> 01:01:07,267 >> Reporter: MAY 17th STARTED OFF IN SUCH A CRAZY, 1298 01:01:07,267 --> 01:01:10,370 HEAD-SPINNING FLASH. AND THEN IT CAME TO AN ABRUPT 1299 01:01:10,370 --> 01:01:14,674 STOP AT LEAST FOR VALERIE'S HUSBAND ISAIAH 1300 01:01:14,674 --> 01:01:17,677 RIGHT AFTER THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN, AN FBI AGENT TOLD ISAIAH 1301 01:01:17,677 --> 01:01:22,549 THEY'D ALL NOW HAVE TO SIT AND WAIT IN THE MARINA PARKING LOT 1302 01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:24,150 >> DO YOU HAVE TIME TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS LIKE, "WHERE?" 1303 01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:25,585 >> I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT - >> "WHY? 1304 01:01:25,585 --> 01:01:27,087 >> I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO ASK. 1305 01:01:27,087 --> 01:01:30,357 THEY WOULDN'T TELL ME ANYTHING I COULDN'T USE MY PHONE. 1306 01:01:30,357 --> 01:01:33,259 I COULDN'T TALK TO ANYBODY, NOTHING. 1307 01:01:33,259 --> 01:01:35,895 >> SO THEY TOLD YOU BASICALLY, "YOU NEED TO GO OFF THE GRID 1308 01:01:35,895 --> 01:01:37,564 RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU? 1309 01:01:37,564 --> 01:01:41,634 >> UH-HUH. >> Reporter: AS THE HOURS 1310 01:01:41,634 --> 01:01:44,104 STARTED TO TICK BY, ISAIAH HAD A LOT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT 1311 01:01:44,104 --> 01:01:47,841 WAS UNFOLDING IN FRONT OF HIM AND HOW HE ENDED UP IN SUCH A 1312 01:01:47,841 --> 01:01:52,579 SITUATION. HE SAID THINGS WERE SO DIFFERENT 1313 01:01:52,579 --> 01:01:54,814 WHEN HE AND VALERIE FIRST MET. >> AND I MET HER DAUGHTER. 1314 01:01:54,814 --> 01:01:56,149 I FELL IN LOVE WITH HER DAUGHTER 1315 01:01:56,149 --> 01:02:00,854 I WAS, LIKE, "THIS LITTLE GIRL'S AMAZING. 1316 01:02:00,854 --> 01:02:02,389 SHE TOOK RIGHT TO ME RIGHT AWAY. THIS IS REALLY COOL. 1317 01:02:02,389 --> 01:02:09,062 YOU KNOW, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT." 1318 01:02:09,062 --> 01:02:11,197 AND SHE MADE IT SEEM LIKE SHE WAS SO INTO ME AND SO LIKE I WAS 1319 01:02:11,197 --> 01:02:16,670 THE GREATEST PERSON IN THE WORLD. 1320 01:02:16,670 --> 01:02:19,272 AND I FELL INTO THE TRAP >> Reporter: HE WANTS US TO KNOW 1321 01:02:19,272 --> 01:02:26,479 THAT HE FEELS VALERIE MADE UP LOTS OF THINGS ABOUT HIM, BIG 1322 01:02:26,479 --> 01:02:27,981 AND SMALL LIKE THE IDEA HE SOLD FIREWORKS ON THE SIDE. 1323 01:02:27,981 --> 01:02:29,549 HE SAYS HE NEVER DID AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE WANTS 1324 01:02:29,549 --> 01:02:31,718 TO MAKE CLEAR THAT HE NEVER ABUSED HIS WIFE. 1325 01:02:31,718 --> 01:02:36,089 >> I WAS NEVER A MONSTER I NEVER MISTREATED HER 1326 01:02:36,089 --> 01:02:37,691 I NEVER WANTED ANYTHING BAD TO HAPPEN TO HER. 1327 01:02:37,691 --> 01:02:42,962 I JUST WANTED TO KEEP MY FAMILY TOGETHER 1328 01:02:42,962 --> 01:02:46,733 I JUST WANTED MY FAMILY TO BE GOOD 1329 01:02:46,733 --> 01:02:51,204 >> YOU WANTED A HOME FOR YOUR SON THAT WOULD NOT END IN 1330 01:02:51,204 --> 01:02:56,843 DIVORCE, THAT WOULD -- >> I WANTED A HOME - 1331 01:02:56,843 --> 01:02:58,111 >> STAY TOGETHER - >> FOR MY -- 1332 01:02:58,111 --> 01:03:01,181 >> AS A FAMILY >> YEAH. 1333 01:03:01,181 --> 01:03:03,049 I WANTED -- I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT HAPPY ENDING 1334 01:03:03,049 --> 01:03:04,451 AND SHE WANTED NO PART OF IT >> Reporter: ISAIAH HAD RESIGNED 1335 01:03:04,451 --> 01:03:06,052 HIMSELF TO THE FACT THAT HIS MARRIAGE WAS OVER. 1336 01:03:06,052 --> 01:03:07,721 AND HE THOUGHT EVERYTHING HAD BEEN MOVING FORWARD IN DIVORCE 1337 01:03:07,721 --> 01:03:09,089 COURT. BUT AS HE NOW LOOKED BACK, HE 1338 01:03:09,089 --> 01:03:13,460 FELT VALERIE DIDN'T WANT TO SPLIT ANY OF HER MONEY WITH HIM. 1339 01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:15,228 >> I BELIEVE ONCE THE JUDGE GOT THE FINANCIALS FROM THE DIVORCE 1340 01:03:15,228 --> 01:03:18,365 AND EVERYTHING CAME INTO LIGHT OF HOW MUCH I WAS ACTUALLY 1341 01:03:18,365 --> 01:03:21,601 ENTITLED TO, I THINK THAT REALLY HIT HER IN A PLACE WHERE SHE 1342 01:03:21,601 --> 01:03:25,171 FELT THREATENED. AND TO BE HONEST, THE ONLY WAY 1343 01:03:25,171 --> 01:03:27,941 THAT VALERIE EVER FELT THREATENED WAS FINANCIALLY 1344 01:03:27,941 --> 01:03:36,082 >> YOU FEEL LIKE A SWITCH WAS FLIPPED IN THAT MOMENT 1345 01:03:36,082 --> 01:03:40,086 >> YEAH, I FEEL LIKE SHE COMPLETELY LOST IT KNOWING THAT 1346 01:03:40,086 --> 01:03:43,189 SHE HAD TO GIVE ME EVEN A DOLLAR WAS JUST GUT WRENCHING TO HER. 1347 01:03:43,189 --> 01:03:48,461 SHE WANTED NO PART OF IT AND SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TO HAVE 1348 01:03:48,461 --> 01:03:52,298 ANYTHING OF HERS >> Reporter: WHILE THE MOOD WAS 1349 01:03:52,298 --> 01:04:00,173 SOLEMN IN THAT PARKING LOT IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT 1350 01:04:00,173 --> 01:04:03,677 SCENE BACK AT VALERIE'S HOUSE. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU 1351 01:04:03,677 --> 01:04:05,345 AGAIN YOU HAVE OUR CONDOLENCES >> Reporter: AFTER THE 1352 01:04:05,345 --> 01:04:07,580 DETECTIVES LEFT, AND THE DOOR WAS SHUT, JOHN KEPT PLAYING HIS 1353 01:04:07,580 --> 01:04:12,485 ROLE, SAYING THE 'HIT MAN' MUST HAVE KILLED HIS DAUGHTER, TOO. 1354 01:04:12,485 --> 01:04:13,920 >> OH, MY GOD. WELL, I GUESS THEY'RE BOTH GONE, 1355 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,724 NOBODY'S GONNA GET IN TOUCH WITH ME 1356 01:04:17,724 --> 01:04:23,663 SHE'S GONE, NOW WHAT? WHAT DO WE DO NOW? 1357 01:04:23,663 --> 01:04:28,435 >> I DON'T [ BLEEP ] KNOW. >> Reporter: VALERIE WORRIED 1358 01:04:28,435 --> 01:04:30,470 ABOUT WHAT SHE WOULD TELL SAL, THE SON SHE AND ISAIAH HAD 1359 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:34,874 TOGETHER >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I 1360 01:04:34,874 --> 01:04:37,944 FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO [ BLEEP ] GO TO HELL AND MY SON'S GOING TO 1361 01:04:37,944 --> 01:04:40,980 HATE ME. >> Reporter: THE TWO STARTED 1362 01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:42,549 TALKING ABOUT THEIR ALIBIS >> OH, MY GOD. 1363 01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:49,189 >> SO NOW WHAT >> I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I 1364 01:04:49,189 --> 01:04:51,091 KNOW HIS FAMILY'S ALL GONNA [ BLEEP ] BLAME ME 1365 01:04:51,091 --> 01:04:53,493 >> HOW'S HE GONNA BLAME YOU, YOU HAVE AN ALIBI, YOU'RE HOME, WHAT 1366 01:04:53,493 --> 01:04:54,828 THE -- >> Reporter: AND ABOUT ANY 1367 01:04:54,828 --> 01:04:57,864 EVIDENCE THAT COULD IMPLICATE THEM 1368 01:04:57,864 --> 01:05:00,166 >> DELETE YOUR TEXTS >> I DO DELETE MY TEXTS. 1369 01:05:00,166 --> 01:05:01,601 >> FROM ME >> OH, MY GOD. 1370 01:05:01,601 --> 01:05:05,805 >> WHAT? >> Reporter: THEN SUDDENLY A NEW 1371 01:05:05,805 --> 01:05:08,274 TEXT POPPED UP ON JOHN'S PHONE WITH A PHOTO 1372 01:05:08,274 --> 01:05:11,044 HE SAID IT WAS FROM THE HIT MAN. >> HE JUST TEXTED ME 1373 01:05:11,044 --> 01:05:15,882 >> AND I LOOKED AT IT. AND IT WAS ISAIAH LAYING IN HIS 1374 01:05:15,882 --> 01:05:18,551 CAR WITH GLASS OVER. >> WHY WOULD YOU [ BLEEP ] TEXT 1375 01:05:18,551 --> 01:05:23,189 YOU THAT IS HE [ BLEEP ] STUPID 1376 01:05:23,189 --> 01:05:24,357 >> Reporter: OF COURSE, THE PHOTO CAME FROM THE FBI. 1377 01:05:24,357 --> 01:05:29,829 >> SO I SHOWED VALERIE LIKE THIS AND SHE WENT CRAZY 1378 01:05:29,829 --> 01:05:32,098 >> OH, MY GOD. LOOK AT THE [ BLEEP ] GLASS. 1379 01:05:32,098 --> 01:05:35,869 >> WHY WOULD HE TEXT YOU THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW, I'M GONNA ERASE 1380 01:05:35,869 --> 01:05:38,371 IT QUICK >> IT DOESN'T MATTER, ARE YOU 1381 01:05:38,371 --> 01:05:40,774 [ BLEEP ] DUMB >> AS A SEASONED INVESTIGATOR 1382 01:05:40,774 --> 01:05:43,176 HERSELF, SHE KNEW DETECTIVES COULD GET A HOLD OF PHONE 1383 01:05:43,176 --> 01:05:46,546 RECORDS. >> I'M JUST GONNA ERASE 1384 01:05:46,546 --> 01:05:49,916 EVERYTHING I'M GONNA THROW THE PHONE AWAY 1385 01:05:49,916 --> 01:05:52,318 THEN -- >> IT'LL SHOW THAT HE SENT YOU 1386 01:05:52,318 --> 01:05:54,521 THIS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME I SAID TEN DAYS THEY COULD 1387 01:05:54,521 --> 01:05:58,091 SUBPOENA MESSAGES. >> THEY'RE NOT GONNA FIND HIM, 1388 01:05:58,091 --> 01:06:00,026 THEY'RE NOT GONNA FIND HIM, HOW THEY GONNA FIND HIM? 1389 01:06:00,026 --> 01:06:04,264 HOW THEY GONNA FIND HIM? I GOTTA ERASE ALL THIS - 1390 01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:11,504 >> THEY'RE GOING TO GET THIS [ BLEEP ] TEXTS, YOU DUMBASS 1391 01:06:11,504 --> 01:06:16,409 THEY CAN SUBPOENA THESE PHOTOS >> Reporter: THEN, THERE WAS 1392 01:06:16,409 --> 01:06:17,544 ANOTHER KNOCK AT THE DOOR. THE DETECTIVES WERE BACK 1393 01:06:17,544 --> 01:06:19,412 >> CAN WE COME IN? >> FBI. FBI. 1394 01:06:19,412 --> 01:06:21,414 PUT YOUR HANDS UP. UP, UP, UP, UP 1395 01:06:21,414 --> 01:06:23,049 STAND UP >> Reporter: AND IN A MATTER OF 1396 01:06:23,049 --> 01:06:27,120 SECONDS FBI AGENTS SWARMED IN TO PLACE VALERIE UNDER ARREST 1397 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,688 >> WHAT WAS HER REACTION TO THAT 1398 01:06:28,688 --> 01:06:31,591 >> SHE WAS STUNNED SHE WAS SO SCARED. 1399 01:06:31,591 --> 01:06:35,128 >> UP, UP, UP. >> THEY HANDCUFFED HER 1400 01:06:35,128 --> 01:06:36,229 THEY SAID, "YOU'RE UNDER ARREST." 1401 01:06:36,229 --> 01:06:37,430 AND THEY HANDCUFFED ME THEY BROUGHT ME OUT THE BACK 1402 01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:45,205 DOOR >> THEY HANDCUFFED YOU FOR SHOW? 1403 01:06:45,205 --> 01:06:48,942 >> YEAH, FOR SHOW. >> Reporter: VALERIE EVENTUALLY 1404 01:06:48,942 --> 01:06:51,211 LEARNED THAT SHE WAS THE TARGET OF AN FBI STING OPERATION, THAT 1405 01:06:51,211 --> 01:06:55,815 HER BOYFRIEND WAS THE ONE WHO TURNED HER IN AND THAT HER 1406 01:06:55,815 --> 01:06:59,552 HUSBAND WAS ALIVE. SHE WAS BOOKED INTO A BROOKLYN 1407 01:06:59,552 --> 01:07:02,589 FEDERAL DETENTION CENTER >> OKAY, SO TAKE CARE OF YOURS 1408 01:07:02,589 --> 01:07:07,861 AND THEN WAIT A MONTH. >> AND WITH ALL THOSE RECORDINGS 1409 01:07:07,861 --> 01:07:09,462 YOU MIGHT THINK THIS WAS AN OPEN AND SHUT CASE, BUT YOU'D BE 1410 01:07:09,462 --> 01:07:15,368 WRONG. >> COMING UP - 1411 01:07:15,368 --> 01:07:20,740 THE PART OF THIS UNDERCOVER STING YOU HAVEN'T SEEN. 1412 01:07:20,740 --> 01:07:22,108 >> WHEN THE DETECTIVES LEAVE SHE'S JUST CRYING HYSTERICALLY 1413 01:07:22,108 --> 01:07:24,844 >> I DIDN'T BELIEVE YOU, I NEVER BELIEVED YOU 1414 01:07:24,844 --> 01:07:26,479 >> I NEVER BELIEVED YOU. >> YOU BELIEVE THERE'S SO MUCH 1415 01:07:26,479 --> 01:07:30,450 MORE TO THIS STORY >> I KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH MORE 1416 01:07:30,450 --> 01:07:48,068 TO >> VALERIE, HAVE ANYTHING TO 1417 01:07:48,068 --> 01:07:51,938 SAY? >> I'LL BE ACQUITTED, 'CAUSE I 1418 01:07:51,938 --> 01:07:58,478 DID NOT DO THIS. >> WHEN OFFICER VALERI 1419 01:07:58,478 --> 01:08:00,613 CINCINELLI WAS ARRESTED, HER CASE WAS PLASTERED ALL OVER 1420 01:08:00,613 --> 01:08:01,514 LOCAL MEDIA. >> VALERIE CINCINELLI HELD HER 1421 01:08:01,514 --> 01:08:02,649 HEAD IN HER HEAD AS -- >> FEMALE OFFICER WAS HELD 1422 01:08:02,649 --> 01:08:04,017 BEHIND BARS -- >> SHE REMAINS IN JAIL BEING 1423 01:08:04,017 --> 01:08:05,618 HELD WITHOUT BAIL -- >> Reporter: THERE, FOR ALL THE 1424 01:08:05,618 --> 01:08:10,490 WORLD TO SEE, WAS THAT "TIL DEATH" TATTOO SHE GOT WITH JOHN. 1425 01:08:10,490 --> 01:08:15,695 THE NYPD SUSPENDED HER WITHOUT PAY. 1426 01:08:15,695 --> 01:08:17,297 SHE WAS CHARGED WITH TWO COUNTS OF MURDER-FOR-HIRE AND ONE COUNT 1427 01:08:17,297 --> 01:08:18,798 OF OBSTRUCTION SHE PLEADED NOT GUILTY 1428 01:08:18,798 --> 01:08:24,104 YOU BELIEVE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO THIS STORY? 1429 01:08:24,104 --> 01:08:26,239 >> NO, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO THIS STORY. 1430 01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:31,878 >> Reporter: JAMES KOUSOUROS IS VALERIE'S ATTORNEY 1431 01:08:31,878 --> 01:08:37,050 >> LOOK, PEOPLE DON'T LIVE A 34-YEAR LIFE AS A DECORATE 1432 01:08:37,050 --> 01:08:40,253 POLICE OFFICER, A COLLEGE GRADUATE, A GOOD DAUGHTER, IN 1433 01:08:40,253 --> 01:08:43,923 EVERY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, AND THEN JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN WAKE 1434 01:08:43,923 --> 01:08:48,128 UP IN THE MORNING AND FLIP A SWITCH AND BECOME UNHINGED 1435 01:08:48,128 --> 01:08:54,067 >> Reporter: AND HE SAYS, DESPITE WHAT IS ON THOSE 1436 01:08:54,067 --> 01:08:56,603 RECORDINGS, VALERIE NEVER WANTED HER HUSBAND ISAIAH OR JOHN'S 1437 01:08:56,603 --> 01:09:00,874 DAUGHTER KILLED. >> I HAVE CONSISTENTLY SAID THAT 1438 01:09:00,874 --> 01:09:04,744 SHE IS CLEARLY PLAYING OUT THIS FANTASY DURING THESE 1439 01:09:04,744 --> 01:09:07,013 CONVERSATIONS, THAT SHE NEVER BELIEVED WOULD COME TO FRUITION. 1440 01:09:07,013 --> 01:09:14,020 >> Reporter: SHE SAID SOME TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT 1441 01:09:14,020 --> 01:09:20,026 HIS DAUGHTER >> NOUR SLUT DAUGHTER THAT I DID 1442 01:09:20,026 --> 01:09:25,098 EVERYTHING FOR YOUR LITTLE SLUT DAUGHTER. 1443 01:09:25,098 --> 01:09:28,068 >> Reporter: SHE SAID IN A RECORDING, "RUN HER THE 1444 01:09:28,068 --> 01:09:34,140 [ BLEEP ] OVER >> RUN HER THE [ BLEEP ] OVER, 1445 01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:35,842 HOW ABOUT THAT >> THERE'S NO QUESTION AND WE 1446 01:09:35,842 --> 01:09:37,644 HAVE SAID FROM THE INCEPTION OF THIS CASE THAT MANY OF VALERIE'S 1447 01:09:37,644 --> 01:09:39,446 STATEMENTS AND WORDS ON THOSE TAPES ARE HORRIBLE 1448 01:09:39,446 --> 01:09:41,081 >> Reporter: HE SAYS VALERIE WAS ONLY "VENTING," AND HER WORDS 1449 01:09:41,081 --> 01:09:42,649 CAN BE EXPLAINED, IN PART, BECAUSE OF THAT ATTACK AND 1450 01:09:42,649 --> 01:09:44,217 INJURY SHE SUFFERED AT WORK. IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF A 1451 01:09:44,217 --> 01:09:45,652 DOWNWARD SPIRAL WHERE SHE LOST 30 POUNDS, ALL THE WHILE TAKING 1452 01:09:45,652 --> 01:09:50,457 A LOT OF MEDICATIONS >> SHE WAS MEDICATED AFTER HER 1453 01:09:50,457 --> 01:09:54,861 SHOULDER SURGERY SHE WAS CLEARLY BESIDE HERSELF, 1454 01:09:54,861 --> 01:09:56,563 SHE WAS CLEARLY NOT HERSELF AND BECAME ENTIRELY UNHINGED 1455 01:09:56,563 --> 01:09:58,231 >> Reporter: THE ATTORNEY TOLD US MOST PEOPLE HAVE THE REST OF 1456 01:09:58,231 --> 01:10:02,002 THE FACTS IN THIS CASE WRONG TOO. 1457 01:10:02,002 --> 01:10:05,672 AND SAYS VALERIE DEFENDS HER DECISION TO HAVE HER HUSBAND 1458 01:10:05,672 --> 01:10:07,841 ARRESTED AND DENIES TEXTING JOHN TO "WATCH THE SHOW." 1459 01:10:07,841 --> 01:10:11,578 AND WHILE SHE ADMITS SHE MADE MISTAKES IN HER RELATIONSHIP 1460 01:10:11,578 --> 01:10:14,214 WITH JOHN, SHE SAYS SHE NEVER PULLED A GUN ON HIM, AND ADDS 1461 01:10:14,214 --> 01:10:18,852 WHEN THEY FIRST MET ON THAT STREET, JOHN APPROACHED HER, NOT 1462 01:10:18,852 --> 01:10:22,222 THE OTHER WAY AROUND IN FACT, THE DEFENSE CLAIMS 1463 01:10:22,222 --> 01:10:25,291 JOHN DiRUBBA IS THE REAL VILLAIN HERE 1464 01:10:25,291 --> 01:10:29,896 >> TAKE CARE OF MY DAUGHTER THIS WEEKEND, KILL HER THIS WEEKEND 1465 01:10:29,896 --> 01:10:30,930 AND [ BLEEP ] THEN WAIT A MONTH FOR HIM? 1466 01:10:30,930 --> 01:10:32,165 >> Reporter: PUSHING VALERIE TO SAY SUCH AWFUL THINGS ON THOSE 1467 01:10:32,165 --> 01:10:35,902 RECORDINGS >> WHO DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST 1468 01:10:35,902 --> 01:10:37,270 ISAIAH OR HER? >> WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME 1469 01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:40,874 WHO DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? >> IT DOESN'T MATTER 1470 01:10:40,874 --> 01:10:43,476 >> OKAY, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER. >> HE'S CREATING THIS DIALOGUE, 1471 01:10:43,476 --> 01:10:46,680 HE'S CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT IT 1472 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,616 >> Reporter: BUT WHAT IS JOHN DiRUBBA'S MOTIVATION TO 1473 01:10:49,616 --> 01:10:53,953 WANT HIS OWN DAUGHTER KILLED >> YOU KNOW, ANDREA, PEOPLE LIE. 1474 01:10:53,953 --> 01:11:00,126 PEOPLE ARE MANIPULATIVE. SOME PEOPLE ARE TRULY SICK 1475 01:11:00,126 --> 01:11:01,594 I THINK HE'S A BAD GUY I THINK HE'S A MANIPULATIVE 1476 01:11:01,594 --> 01:11:05,165 INDIVIDUAL IT IS OUR POSITION, HAS ALWAYS 1477 01:11:05,165 --> 01:11:06,700 BEEN, THAT HE'S USING HER AND WHEN - 1478 01:11:06,700 --> 01:11:09,936 >> Reporter: FOR WHAT? >> FOR HER MONEY AND EVERYTHING 1479 01:11:09,936 --> 01:11:13,073 THAT HE CAN GET FROM HER >> Reporter: HE SAYS JOHN IS A 1480 01:11:13,073 --> 01:11:14,941 MAN WHO HAD MANY DIFFERENT FACES. 1481 01:11:14,941 --> 01:11:17,944 SOMEONE WHO GOT INTO HIS OWN LEGAL TROUBLE FOUR MONTHS BEFORE 1482 01:11:17,944 --> 01:11:22,782 HE STARTED RECORDING VALERIE IN 2019. 1483 01:11:22,782 --> 01:11:29,155 SO JOHN DiRUBBA IS ARRESTED DURING THIS TIME FOR STEALING A 1484 01:11:29,155 --> 01:11:35,562 DIAMOND. SO WHAT IS THAT STORY, AND 1485 01:11:35,562 --> 01:11:38,164 HOW DOES IT FIT IN TO EVERYTHING OR DOES IT? 1486 01:11:38,164 --> 01:11:40,100 >> IT -- I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT ACTUALLY FITS INTO ANYTHING 1487 01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:41,568 RELATIVE TO THIS CASE. ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT DIDN'T 1488 01:11:41,568 --> 01:11:43,003 SURPRISE ME. >> Reporter: JOHN SAID HE NEVER 1489 01:11:43,003 --> 01:11:44,604 STOLE A DIAMOND, BUT HAD A MONEY DISPUTE WITH A JEWELER 1490 01:11:44,604 --> 01:11:46,406 THE CASE WAS DISCHARGED AFTER JOHN AGREED TO PLEAD GUILTY TO A 1491 01:11:46,406 --> 01:11:48,375 LESSER CHARGE OF DISORDERLY CONDUCT. 1492 01:11:48,375 --> 01:11:51,277 THE FILES HAVE SINCE BEEN SEALED 1493 01:11:51,277 --> 01:11:53,313 >> Reporter: DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS JUST SPEAKS TO 1494 01:11:53,313 --> 01:11:57,150 JOHN DiRUBBA'S CHARACTER >> IT ALL SPEAKS TO 1495 01:11:57,150 --> 01:12:00,220 JOHN DiRUBBA'S CHARACTER >> Reporter: THE DEFENSE ALSO 1496 01:12:00,220 --> 01:12:03,790 POINTS TO A MAJOR HOLE IN THE PROSECUTION'S CASE 1497 01:12:03,790 --> 01:12:07,560 THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE PROVING VALERIE ACTUALLY GAVE 1498 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,197 MONEY TO JOHN TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE KILLED 1499 01:12:11,197 --> 01:12:12,932 >> THEY COULD NEVER ESTABLISH THAT SHE PAID HIM TO HIRE A HIT 1500 01:12:12,932 --> 01:12:17,704 MAN. >> Reporter: SO THERE WAS NO 1501 01:12:17,704 --> 01:12:19,239 DOCUMENTATION OF A TEXT OR ONE OF THE WIRES HE WAS WEARING, 1502 01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:21,074 VIDEO CAMERAS? NOTHING WAS EVER SHOWING THAT 1503 01:12:21,074 --> 01:12:24,978 THIS MONEY EXCHANGED HANDS FOR A HIT MAN? 1504 01:12:24,978 --> 01:12:29,983 >> NEVER, NEVER. SHE NEVER EVEN GIVES THE HINT 1505 01:12:29,983 --> 01:12:32,652 DURING THESE TAPES THAT SHE PAID HIM MONEY TO HIRE A HIT MAN, 1506 01:12:32,652 --> 01:12:36,556 EVER >> Reporter: BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT 1507 01:12:36,556 --> 01:12:37,991 $7,000 JOHN SAID WAS TO PAY FOR THE HIT MAN? 1508 01:12:37,991 --> 01:12:42,562 THE ATTORNEY SAYS IT WAS ACTUALLY A LOAN THAT VALERIE 1509 01:12:42,562 --> 01:12:47,233 GAVE HIM TO INVEST IN GOLD >> HE WOULDN'T BE TEXTING HER 1510 01:12:47,233 --> 01:12:49,436 CONSTANTLY TELLING HER, "I OWE YOU THE MONEY, "I'M GONNA PAY 1511 01:12:49,436 --> 01:12:52,339 YOU BACK." >> Reporter: WHILE JOHN ADMITS 1512 01:12:52,339 --> 01:13:00,280 HE SOMETIMES BORROWED MONEY FROM VALERIE, HER ATTORNEY SAYS JOHN 1513 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,917 WAS SO BROKE, THAT VALERIE LET HIM LIVE WITH HER UNTIL SHE GOT 1514 01:13:03,917 --> 01:13:05,352 FED UP AND KICKED HIM MORE THAN ONCE 1515 01:13:05,352 --> 01:13:07,253 >> Reporter: IF THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULT TIMES IN THEIR 1516 01:13:07,253 --> 01:13:11,358 RELATIONSHIP AND SHE WANTS HIM OUT OF THE HOUSE, WHY IS SHE 1517 01:13:11,358 --> 01:13:13,159 SO WILLINGLY GIVING HIM $7,000 FOR GOLD? 1518 01:13:13,159 --> 01:13:15,228 >> BECAUSE EVERY TIME SHE KICKS HIM OUT, HE WOULD LAUNCH ANOTHER 1519 01:13:15,228 --> 01:13:19,966 INVESTIGATION AGAINST HER. >> Reporter: REMEMBER, JOHN 1520 01:13:19,966 --> 01:13:21,801 TURNED VALERIE IN TO AUTHORITIES TWICE. 1521 01:13:21,801 --> 01:13:23,737 THE DEFENSE SAYS THIS CASE WAS NOT ABOUT JOHN BEING AFRAID OF 1522 01:13:23,737 --> 01:13:28,274 VALERIE, BUT OF HER BEING AFRAID OF HIM 1523 01:13:28,274 --> 01:13:32,579 >> EVERY TIME SHE KICKED HIM OUT, EVERY TIME SHE REBUFFED HIS 1524 01:13:32,579 --> 01:13:35,248 PLEADING TO GET BACK IN HER LIFE, HE FILED THE FALSE 1525 01:13:35,248 --> 01:13:37,684 ALLEGATION AGAINST HER >> Reporter: AND THERE'S 1526 01:13:37,684 --> 01:13:42,222 SOMETHING ELSE THE DEFENSE THINKS DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE 1527 01:13:42,222 --> 01:13:45,258 IF VALERIE TOOK OUT $7,000 TO PAY A HIT MAN, WHY WOULD JOHN 1528 01:13:45,258 --> 01:13:48,094 WAIT THREE MONTHS BEFORE GOING TO THE FBI 1529 01:13:48,094 --> 01:13:51,131 >> SHE PAYS HIM IN FEBRUARY OF 2019. 1530 01:13:51,131 --> 01:13:56,102 HE DOESN'T GO TO THE FEDS UNTIL MAY OF 2019. 1531 01:13:56,102 --> 01:14:00,340 LET'S JUST THINK ABOUT THIS. YOU'RE JOHN DiRUBBA, SHE PAYS 1532 01:14:00,340 --> 01:14:02,942 YOU MONEY TO KILL YOUR DAUGHTER, AND YOU DON'T GO TO THE FEDS 1533 01:14:02,942 --> 01:14:06,513 UNTIL MAY? THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 1534 01:14:06,513 --> 01:14:08,448 >> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT THE REASON HE DIDN'T GO SOONER IS 1535 01:14:08,448 --> 01:14:15,655 BECAUSE HE WAS IN LOVE WITH HER. >> YEAH. 1536 01:14:15,655 --> 01:14:16,956 IT'S ALL RIDICULOUS, OKAY? "SO, VALERIE, LET'S GO GET YOU 1537 01:14:16,956 --> 01:14:18,525 THERAPY. LET'S GET YOU SOME HELP. 1538 01:14:18,525 --> 01:14:20,260 YOU'RE LOSING IT." YOU KNOW, REALLY 1539 01:14:20,260 --> 01:14:24,364 IS THAT THE WAY YOU TREAT THE WOMAN YOU LOVE 1540 01:14:24,364 --> 01:14:27,367 >> Reporter: BUT HERE IS WHERE VALERIE'S ATTORNEY SAYS THEIR 1541 01:14:27,367 --> 01:14:30,437 SIDE OF THE CASE BECOMES CLEAR THOSE FBI TAPES ACTUALLY HELP 1542 01:14:30,437 --> 01:14:35,075 HIS CLIENT >> UNFORTUNATELY WE WOULDN'T BE 1543 01:14:35,075 --> 01:14:39,245 HERE IF IT WASN'T REAL >> WHEN THE DETECTIVES LEAVE -- 1544 01:14:39,245 --> 01:14:44,617 AND THIS TO ME IS THE MOST CRITICAL ASPECT OF THESE 1545 01:14:44,617 --> 01:14:50,990 TAPES -- NOW SHE IS ALONE WITH THE MAN THE GOVERNMENT INITIALLY 1546 01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:54,461 ASSERTED SHE SO CALLOUSLY CONSPIRED TO KILL TWO PEOPLE, 1547 01:14:54,461 --> 01:14:57,564 AND SHE CAN'T STOP CRYING. >> YOU THINK I'M NOT FREAKING 1548 01:14:57,564 --> 01:14:58,965 OUT? IT'S MY [ BLEEP ] SON. 1549 01:14:58,965 --> 01:15:03,570 >> SHE IS JUST CRYING HYSTERICALLY 1550 01:15:03,570 --> 01:15:07,273 AND HE LOOKS AT HER AND SAYS, "WHAT ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT?" 1551 01:15:07,273 --> 01:15:10,043 >> WELL, YOU KNEW THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN 1552 01:15:10,043 --> 01:15:13,313 WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? >> NO, I DIDN'T BELIEVE YOU, I 1553 01:15:13,313 --> 01:15:15,382 NEVER BELIEVED YOU YOU [ BLEEP ] LIE ABOUT 1554 01:15:15,382 --> 01:15:18,051 EVERYTHING I REALLY I LIKE REALLY, REALLY 1555 01:15:18,051 --> 01:15:20,787 CAN'T BELIEVE THIS LIKE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE FULL 1556 01:15:20,787 --> 01:15:23,923 OF [ BLEEP ] >> AND WHAT'S HER RESPONSE 1557 01:15:23,923 --> 01:15:28,395 "I NEVER BELIEVED YOU. I NEVER BELIEVE YOU. 1558 01:15:28,395 --> 01:15:32,465 ALL YOU DO IS LIE TO ME. >> Reporter: SO WAS VALERIE THE 1559 01:15:32,465 --> 01:15:34,701 COLD-BLOODED CONSPIRATOR OR THE VICTIM OF A LYING, CONNIVING 1560 01:15:34,701 --> 01:15:39,973 BOYFRIEND? AS HER DAY IN COURT APPROACHED, 1561 01:15:39,973 --> 01:15:42,642 ONE FINAL TWIST LAY AHEAD. >>> COMING UP -- 1562 01:15:42,642 --> 01:15:44,744 >> Reporter: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT YOU 1563 01:15:44,744 --> 01:15:47,714 WANTED REVENGE ON HER? >> IT WAS VALERIE'S OWN WORDS 1564 01:15:47,714 --> 01:15:50,183 THAT PUT HER IN JAIL SHE COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS AT 1565 01:15:50,183 --> 01:15:53,086 ANY TIME. >> A STIRRING DEFENSE FROM JOH 1566 01:15:53,086 --> 01:15:56,856 AND A STUNNING TURN IN VALERIE'S CASE 1567 01:15:56,856 --> 01:15:58,925 >> I WAS BLOWN AWAY. IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. 1568 01:16:17,877 --> 01:16:19,879 >> Reporter: SEPTEMBER 2019. FOR FOUR MONTHS VALERIE 1569 01:16:19,879 --> 01:16:22,315 CINCINELLI SAT IN A BROOKLYN DETENTION CENTER 1570 01:16:22,315 --> 01:16:25,285 >> I'LL BE ACQUITTED 'CAUSE I DID NOT DO THIS. 1571 01:16:25,285 --> 01:16:27,787 >> Reporter: THE JUDGE REFUSED TO GIVE HER BAIL AS SHE AWAITED 1572 01:16:27,787 --> 01:16:32,058 TRIAL. AND THERE WAS MORE BAD NEWS -- 1573 01:16:32,058 --> 01:16:37,063 VALERIE'S BROTHER, THE ONE WHO WAS AN FBI AGENT, HAD DIED BY 1574 01:16:37,063 --> 01:16:42,402 SUICIDE TWO MONTHS EARLIER AS FOR JOHN DiRUBBA, HE INSISTS 1575 01:16:42,402 --> 01:16:44,070 HE WASN'T THE ONE BEHIND THE MURDER-FOR-HIRE PLOT 1576 01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:46,139 WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU -- 1577 01:16:46,139 --> 01:16:47,841 YOU WANTED REVENGE ON HER? THAT THIS WAS YOUR WAY OF 1578 01:16:47,841 --> 01:16:49,542 GETTING BACK >> YOU KNOW WHAT 1579 01:16:49,542 --> 01:16:51,778 IT WAS VALERIE'S OWN WORDS THAT PUT HER IN JAIL. 1580 01:16:51,778 --> 01:16:54,848 IT'S HER OWN VOICE, WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO 1581 01:16:54,848 --> 01:16:57,417 SHE COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS AT ANY TIME 1582 01:16:57,417 --> 01:16:58,685 IF YOU'RE A POLICE OFFICER THAT UPHOLDS THE LAW, YOU SHOULD SAY, 1583 01:16:58,685 --> 01:17:01,821 "JOHN, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 1584 01:17:01,821 --> 01:17:04,657 ARE YOU CRAZY? THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONLY 1585 01:17:04,657 --> 01:17:09,229 THING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON TAPE 1586 01:17:09,229 --> 01:17:10,230 WHAT WOULD I GAIN OUT OF KILLING MY OWN DAUGHTER? 1587 01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:11,798 >> Reporter: AND WHEN IT CAME TO THAT DAUGHTER, PROSECUTORS SAY 1588 01:17:11,798 --> 01:17:16,503 VALERIE CYBER-STALKED HER. IN COURT DOCUMENTS, THEY 1589 01:17:16,503 --> 01:17:18,238 REVEALED THAT OVER A FOUR-MONTH PERIOD BEFORE HER ARREST, 1590 01:17:18,238 --> 01:17:20,840 VALERIE DID 130 INTERNET SEARCHES ON THE TEEN 1591 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,343 * >> Reporter: STILL, JOHN HAD TO 1592 01:17:23,343 --> 01:17:25,478 ADMIT A SAD TRUTH -- DURING HIS MAD, FRENZIED LOVE AFFAIR WITH 1593 01:17:25,478 --> 01:17:28,381 VALERIE, HE PUT HIS DAUGHTER SECOND 1594 01:17:28,381 --> 01:17:29,749 >> YOU KNOW, SHE STILL HAS HER UP AND DOWNS 1595 01:17:29,749 --> 01:17:33,219 SHE'S STILL SCARED SHE'S STILL WORRIED. 1596 01:17:33,219 --> 01:17:36,556 >> Reporter: JOHN SAYS SOME PARENTS NO LONGER WANTED THEIR 1597 01:17:36,556 --> 01:17:39,592 CHILDREN TO BE AROUND HIS ONLY CHILD, WORRIED THEIR OWN KIDS 1598 01:17:39,592 --> 01:17:42,862 MAY BE HARMED. THAT SAME FEAR IS WEIGHING 1599 01:17:42,862 --> 01:17:45,065 HEAVILY ON HIS NOW 17-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER 1600 01:17:45,065 --> 01:17:51,638 SHE'S CONCERNED VALERIE MIGHT HURT HER 1601 01:17:51,638 --> 01:17:53,106 >> SHE'S, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY ASKING ME, YOU KNOW, "SHE 1602 01:17:53,106 --> 01:17:54,541 STAYING IN JAIL OR SHE'S GETTING OUT? 1603 01:17:54,541 --> 01:17:56,476 SHE'S, YOU KNOW, MOVING ON AS A TEENAGER, BUT SHE'S STILL 1604 01:17:56,476 --> 01:17:58,111 WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF SHE'S LURKING AROUND, 'CAUSE 1605 01:17:58,111 --> 01:17:59,546 SHE'S ALSO AFRAID SHE'S GONNA GET RUN OVER 1606 01:17:59,546 --> 01:18:02,716 >> Reporter: HAVE YOU APOLOGIZED TO YOUR DAUGHTER - 1607 01:18:02,716 --> 01:18:04,351 >> YES >> I KNOW IT'S 1608 01:18:04,351 --> 01:18:06,553 NOT ALL YOUR FAULT, BUT YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT RESPONSIBLE 1609 01:18:06,553 --> 01:18:07,854 FOR THIS - >> ABSOLUTELY. 1610 01:18:07,854 --> 01:18:09,422 >> Reporter: -- TOO. >> ABSOLUTELY. 1611 01:18:09,422 --> 01:18:10,857 I APOLOGIZE TO HER EVERY DAY AND I TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR 1612 01:18:10,857 --> 01:18:15,595 HER, YOU KNOW? BUT I STILL HAVE MY UPS AND 1613 01:18:15,595 --> 01:18:18,431 DOWNS WITH WHAT I DID TO HER >> Reporter: IN THE END, HE SAYS 1614 01:18:18,431 --> 01:18:20,834 HE TRIED TO DO THE RIGHT THING, PROTECT HIS DAUGHTER AND 1615 01:18:20,834 --> 01:18:23,303 ISAIAH WHAT IS YOUR OPINION OF JOHN 1616 01:18:23,303 --> 01:18:26,906 YOU KNOW, HE WENT TO THE FBI WHAT CATEGORY DO YOU PUT HIM IN? 1617 01:18:26,906 --> 01:18:31,444 >> I'M THANKFUL THAT HE WENT TO THE FBI. 1618 01:18:31,444 --> 01:18:35,615 IF HE DIDN'T GO, WHO KNOWS IF I WOULD EVEN BE HERE TODAY 1619 01:18:35,615 --> 01:18:38,818 >> Reporter: AS THE CALENDAR TURNED OVER TO 2021, ISAIAH 1620 01:18:38,818 --> 01:18:41,654 WAITED FOR THE SLOW WHEELS OF JUSTICE TO TURN. 1621 01:18:41,654 --> 01:18:45,225 THEN IN APRIL, PROSECUTORS ANNOUNCED STUNNING NEWS THAT 1622 01:18:45,225 --> 01:18:50,497 SURPRISED MOST PEOPLE. THEY MADE A PLEA DEAL WITH 1623 01:18:50,497 --> 01:18:52,565 VALERIE. DESPITE WHAT SEEMED LIKE SOLID 1624 01:18:52,565 --> 01:18:56,403 RECORDED EVIDENCE, PROSECUTORS DISMISSED THE TWO 1625 01:18:56,403 --> 01:19:05,145 MURDER-FOR-HIRE CHARGES. >> I WAS BLOWN AWAY. 1626 01:19:05,145 --> 01:19:06,813 I WAS SO ANGRY AND UPSET BECAUSE THEY SWORE UP AND DOWN TO ME, 1627 01:19:06,813 --> 01:19:08,348 "WE HAVE A SOLID CASE. WE DON'T -- WE'RE THE 1628 01:19:08,348 --> 01:19:12,585 GOVERNMENT WE DON'T OFFER ANY DEALS." 1629 01:19:12,585 --> 01:19:17,624 >> THEY'RE GOING TO GET THESE [ BLEEP ] TEXTS, YOU DUMB 1630 01:19:17,624 --> 01:19:18,591 [ BLEEP ]. THEY CAN SUBPOENA THESE PHOTOS 1631 01:19:18,591 --> 01:19:20,093 >> Reporter: VALERIE DID PLEAD GUILTY TO ONE CHARGE OF 1632 01:19:20,093 --> 01:19:21,461 OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE FOR TRYING TO DELETE THAT PHOTO AND 1633 01:19:21,461 --> 01:19:24,464 TEXT MESSAGES SENT TO JOHN'S PHONE. 1634 01:19:24,464 --> 01:19:25,799 >> THEY WERE, LIKE -- JUST BASICALLY DIDN'T CARE. 1635 01:19:25,799 --> 01:19:28,234 THEY WERE LIKE, "THIS IS THE OFFER AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S 1636 01:19:28,234 --> 01:19:30,470 GONNA BE." >> Reporter: WE ASKED THE U.S. 1637 01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:33,073 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHY THEY DROPPED THE CHARGES, BUT THEY 1638 01:19:33,073 --> 01:19:35,508 HAD NO COMMENT BOTH PROSECUTORS AND THE FBI 1639 01:19:35,508 --> 01:19:40,280 TURNED DOWN OUR REQUESTS FOR INTERVIEWS 1640 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:44,250 VALERIE'S ATTORNEY THINKS HE KNOWS WHY THOSE CHARGES WERE 1641 01:19:44,250 --> 01:19:48,788 DROPPED -- A LACK OF PROOF THAT VALERIE EVER PAID JOHN TO HIRE A 1642 01:19:48,788 --> 01:19:52,525 HIT MAN. >> IN FEDERAL COURT THE STATUTE 1643 01:19:52,525 --> 01:19:55,895 FOR MURDER FOR HIRE REQUIRES THAT YOU ACTUALLY PAY SOMEBODY 1644 01:19:55,895 --> 01:19:58,064 TO COMMIT MURDER AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS A 1645 01:19:58,064 --> 01:20:01,401 PRINCIPAL PART OF THE GOVERNMENT'S DECISION. 1646 01:20:01,401 --> 01:20:05,438 >> Reporter: VALERIE RESIGNED FROM THE NYPD. 1647 01:20:05,438 --> 01:20:07,507 AT HER SENTENCING IN OCTOBER 2021, THE 37-YEAR-OLD 1648 01:20:07,507 --> 01:20:11,578 TOLD THE COURT, "I'M APOLOGIZING FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. 1649 01:20:11,578 --> 01:20:16,049 I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I ALLOWED MYSELF TO GET TO THAT PLACE, 1650 01:20:16,049 --> 01:20:18,551 THAT DARK PLACE. THE JUDGE SENTENCED HER TO FOUR 1651 01:20:18,551 --> 01:20:21,755 YEARS. ISAIAH SAYS THE DECISION FELT 1652 01:20:21,755 --> 01:20:24,224 LIKE A GUT PUNCH WHY DID YOU THINK THAT WASN'T 1653 01:20:24,224 --> 01:20:27,894 LONG ENOUGH? >> I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS LONG 1654 01:20:27,894 --> 01:20:30,864 ENOUGH BASED UPON EVERYTHING THAT SHE INTENDED TO DO. 1655 01:20:30,864 --> 01:20:35,702 NOT ONLY DID SHE WANNA HAVE ME TAKEN OUT, BUT SHE ALSO WANTED 1656 01:20:35,702 --> 01:20:39,572 TO HAVE A 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL, A CHILD. 1657 01:20:39,572 --> 01:20:44,044 AND FOR SOMEBODY TO EVEN CONSIDER THE ACT OF DOING THAT 1658 01:20:44,044 --> 01:20:48,181 TO A CHILD SHOULD NOT HAVE GOT FOUR YEARS 1659 01:20:48,181 --> 01:20:54,154 IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. SHE HAS DESTROYED MY LIFE. 1660 01:20:54,154 --> 01:20:57,424 THE DAY THAT SHE GETS OUT IS GONNA BE THE FIRST DAY OF, YOU 1661 01:20:57,424 --> 01:21:02,562 KNOW, MY MENTAL PRISON SENTENCE FOREVER. 1662 01:21:02,562 --> 01:21:05,532 >> Reporter: WITH TIME SERVED, VALERIE COULD BE RELEASED LATER 1663 01:21:05,532 --> 01:21:08,902 THIS YEAR. AND HER ATTORNEY SAYS SHE FEARS 1664 01:21:08,902 --> 01:21:15,075 JOHN MAY COME AFTER HER WHEN SHE'S LET OUT. 1665 01:21:15,075 --> 01:21:16,743 WHILE ISAIAH'S MOM AND STEPDAD ARE WORRIED SHE MAY STILL HOLD A 1666 01:21:16,743 --> 01:21:21,081 GRUDGE AGAINST THEIR SON DO YOU FEAR FOR ISAIAH'S SAFETY 1667 01:21:21,081 --> 01:21:22,615 WHEN SHE GETS -- >> SHE GETS OUT. 1668 01:21:22,615 --> 01:21:24,284 >> Reporter: -- OUT OF PRISON? >> YES 1669 01:21:24,284 --> 01:21:27,420 ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY 1670 01:21:27,420 --> 01:21:30,457 WHEN SHE GETS OUT, I DEFINITELY DO 1671 01:21:30,457 --> 01:21:32,425 >> Reporter: FOR NOW, ISAIAH AND HIS SON SAL ARE LIVING WITH HIS 1672 01:21:32,425 --> 01:21:36,429 PARENTS. AND WHILE VALERIE AND ISAIAH'S 1673 01:21:36,429 --> 01:21:40,967 DIVORCE IS STILL NOT FINALIZED, SHE'S ALREADY ASKED THE COURT 1674 01:21:40,967 --> 01:21:46,439 FOR CUSTODY OF THEIR SON >> IT'S HORRIBLE THAT HE HAS TO 1675 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,210 GO THROUGH THIS. AND IT'S -- IT'S LIKE, ME IS ONE 1676 01:21:50,210 --> 01:21:53,013 THING. I'LL GET BY IT 1677 01:21:53,013 --> 01:21:58,351 I'LL GET THROUGH IT. HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW 1678 01:21:58,351 --> 01:22:00,487 >> Reporter: HOW WILL YOU EVER EXPLAIN THAT TO YOUR SON WHEN 1679 01:22:00,487 --> 01:22:05,558 HE'S OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED 1680 01:22:05,558 --> 01:22:10,063 >> I DREAD THAT DAY. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW I'M GOING 1681 01:22:10,063 --> 01:22:12,232 TO TELL HIM. >> Reporter: ISAIAH IS TRYING TO 1682 01:22:12,232 --> 01:22:15,535 MOVE FORWARD AND SAYS HIS SON IS DOING WELL 1683 01:22:15,535 --> 01:22:19,305 HE TAKES COMFORT IN HIS RENEWED LIFE WITH HIS LITTLE BOY 1684 01:22:19,305 --> 01:22:22,509 THIS IS THE SILVER LINING, THAT YOU GOT YOUR SON 1685 01:22:22,509 --> 01:22:26,079 >> YEAH. THAT IS THE BEST THING THAT 1686 01:22:26,079 --> 01:22:29,949 COULD EVER HAPPEN. I CHERISH EVERY DAY BECAUSE IT 1687 01:22:29,949 --> 01:22:38,091 COULD'VE BEEN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. 1688 01:22:38,091 --> 01:22:41,594 I COULD HAVE NOT BEEN HERE >> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION 1689 01:22:41,594 --> 01:22:47,300 OF "DATELINE." WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT FRIDAY 1690 01:22:47,300 --> 01:22:53,173 AT 9:00, 8:00 CENTRAL AND OF COURSE I'LL SEE YOU EACH 1691 01:22:53,173 --> 01:22:54,541 WEEKNIGHT FOR "NBC NIGHTLY NEWS.