1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,359 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:11,359 --> 00:00:12,708 the people are represented 3 00:00:12,708 --> 00:00:15,363 by two separate, yet equally important, groups. 4 00:00:15,363 --> 00:00:17,365 The police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:17,365 --> 00:00:20,150 and the District Attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:21,760 These are their stories. 7 00:00:23,414 --> 00:00:26,156 Oh, I can feel it. It's gonna happen. 8 00:00:26,156 --> 00:00:27,549 It's just a matter of time. 9 00:00:27,549 --> 00:00:29,594 I know it's crazy right now 10 00:00:29,594 --> 00:00:32,162 and there are all sorts of rumors swirling. 11 00:00:32,162 --> 00:00:33,642 No, it's more than that. 12 00:00:33,642 --> 00:00:35,470 People are already digging into my research. 13 00:00:35,470 --> 00:00:37,907 Every article, every book I ever published. 14 00:00:37,907 --> 00:00:39,387 One missed quote. 15 00:00:39,387 --> 00:00:41,345 One overlooked source. 16 00:00:41,345 --> 00:00:43,086 They can't accuse you of plagiarism 17 00:00:43,086 --> 00:00:44,479 if you're not a plagiarist. 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,524 Sure, they can. That's what's happening. 19 00:00:46,524 --> 00:00:48,700 It's how the bastards get their payback. 20 00:00:48,700 --> 00:00:51,138 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right here. 21 00:00:51,138 --> 00:00:52,139 - Hey! - Hold on. 22 00:00:52,139 --> 00:00:53,966 Get away from there. 23 00:00:53,966 --> 00:00:55,881 Yo, what you gonna do? 24 00:00:55,881 --> 00:00:57,057 - Better leave, bro. - Hey! 25 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:58,449 I'm calling the police! - Whatever. 26 00:00:58,449 --> 00:00:59,798 - Mind yourself. - Uh-huh. 27 00:00:59,798 --> 00:01:01,148 What is going on? Are you OK? 28 00:01:01,148 --> 00:01:02,192 Go ahead, bro. 29 00:01:02,192 --> 00:01:04,629 Oh, it's just a bunch of kids. 30 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,024 Unbelievable. 31 00:01:08,024 --> 00:01:10,592 What is it? 32 00:01:10,592 --> 00:01:11,593 Nothing. 33 00:01:12,594 --> 00:01:14,683 I, uh... 34 00:01:14,683 --> 00:01:16,772 I just need a hot shower. 35 00:01:16,772 --> 00:01:19,166 Want a hot cup of tea? 36 00:01:20,254 --> 00:01:23,039 That sounds delightful. 37 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:30,916 Nate? 38 00:01:30,916 --> 00:01:32,744 Nate, are you OK? 39 00:01:36,922 --> 00:01:39,751 Nathan? 40 00:01:45,757 --> 00:01:49,152 Nathan? 41 00:01:50,675 --> 00:01:52,242 Nathan? 42 00:01:52,242 --> 00:01:54,853 I love you. 43 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:00,946 911, what's your emergency? 44 00:02:00,946 --> 00:02:06,778 I think something horrible just happened to my husband. 45 00:02:08,432 --> 00:02:10,130 Feels good to be back in the game. 46 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:11,435 Yeah, I bet. 47 00:02:11,435 --> 00:02:13,481 My first homicide case in almost three years. 48 00:02:13,481 --> 00:02:14,786 - Yeah? - Yeah. 49 00:02:14,786 --> 00:02:16,962 You want to say it? 50 00:02:16,962 --> 00:02:18,138 What have we got? 51 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:19,182 Two knife wounds to the chest. 52 00:02:19,182 --> 00:02:21,141 Name is Nathan Alpert. 53 00:02:21,141 --> 00:02:23,273 Business card in his wallet says he's the president 54 00:02:23,273 --> 00:02:24,970 of Hudson University. 55 00:02:24,970 --> 00:02:27,364 President, big job. 56 00:02:27,364 --> 00:02:28,931 Still had his wallet, huh? 57 00:02:28,931 --> 00:02:30,280 Watch and cell phone, too. 58 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:33,414 "Traitor"? 59 00:02:33,414 --> 00:02:35,155 Sounds personal. 60 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:36,678 - Any witnesses? - One. 61 00:02:36,678 --> 00:02:38,506 He was across the street, heard some commotion. 62 00:02:38,506 --> 00:02:40,638 Looked over and saw someone tall, thin, 63 00:02:40,638 --> 00:02:42,466 in a camo parka, running west. 64 00:02:42,466 --> 00:02:44,076 All units, a man in a military-type 65 00:02:44,076 --> 00:02:45,991 camouflage jacket was just seen walking east 66 00:02:45,991 --> 00:02:50,735 on Lispenard between Church and Broadway. 67 00:03:00,528 --> 00:03:02,225 Police. Don't move. 68 00:03:02,225 --> 00:03:04,053 I can move wherever I want to move. 69 00:03:04,053 --> 00:03:05,228 Hey, hey, hey. Drop the attitude. 70 00:03:05,228 --> 00:03:08,231 We just want to talk to you. All right? 71 00:03:08,231 --> 00:03:10,581 - Knife. - Hey, hey. 72 00:03:10,581 --> 00:03:13,018 You got to stop moving and put that knife down 73 00:03:13,018 --> 00:03:14,498 for your safety and ours. 74 00:03:14,498 --> 00:03:17,197 You understand what I'm saying? 75 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:19,503 Stop moving and put down that knife. 76 00:03:19,503 --> 00:03:21,418 I didn't do nothing, so I ain't dropping nothing. 77 00:03:21,418 --> 00:03:23,507 Drop that knife or I will shoot you. 78 00:03:23,507 --> 00:03:24,943 Hey, Vince, stand down. 79 00:03:24,943 --> 00:03:27,032 Nobody needs to get shot tonight, right? 80 00:03:27,032 --> 00:03:28,512 Just put the knife down. 81 00:03:28,512 --> 00:03:31,254 Put down that knife or I will shoot you! 82 00:03:36,738 --> 00:03:39,610 - Take him down to the 2-7. - Got it. Come on. 83 00:03:41,743 --> 00:03:44,963 Hey, man. Don't ever do that again. 84 00:03:44,963 --> 00:03:46,226 Do what again? 85 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:50,142 Play the hero like that on my tab. 86 00:03:50,142 --> 00:03:52,232 No. 87 00:04:49,637 --> 00:04:51,856 I don't know anyone with that name. 88 00:04:51,856 --> 00:04:54,119 And I don't know any presidents. 89 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:55,773 Oh. 90 00:04:55,773 --> 00:04:57,427 How about that knife? You know that knife? 91 00:04:57,427 --> 00:04:59,081 It has blood on it. 92 00:04:59,081 --> 00:05:01,953 Your jacket does too. - Found the jacket in the trash. 93 00:05:01,953 --> 00:05:04,826 Knife was in the pocket. 94 00:05:04,826 --> 00:05:06,044 That's the truth. 95 00:05:06,044 --> 00:05:08,395 The inconvenient truth. - Inconvenient? 96 00:05:08,395 --> 00:05:10,745 How's that? - I know how y'all roll. 97 00:05:10,745 --> 00:05:12,355 Love putting Black men in prison 98 00:05:12,355 --> 00:05:15,358 for crimes they don't commit, for thoughts they never had, 99 00:05:15,358 --> 00:05:17,012 for lives they never lived. 100 00:05:17,012 --> 00:05:18,970 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, Jordan. 101 00:05:18,970 --> 00:05:21,625 I'm saying I know Tupac is alive 102 00:05:21,625 --> 00:05:24,628 and that the government is hiding him. 103 00:05:24,628 --> 00:05:27,370 Um, hang tight for a second, Jordan. 104 00:05:27,370 --> 00:05:29,111 We're gonna-- 105 00:05:29,111 --> 00:05:30,504 we'll be right back. 106 00:05:33,028 --> 00:05:35,422 Best I can tell, he's telling the truth 107 00:05:35,422 --> 00:05:38,207 about the jacket, not Tupac. 108 00:05:38,207 --> 00:05:39,643 So Tupac is definitely dead, 109 00:05:39,643 --> 00:05:41,123 and that's definitely not his jacket. 110 00:05:41,123 --> 00:05:42,690 Which means it's probably not his knife. 111 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:44,735 And likely not his lip balm, either, 112 00:05:44,735 --> 00:05:48,086 especially with a fancy name like "Paradies," Paradise? 113 00:05:48,086 --> 00:05:50,262 All right, let's get the evidence over to the lab. 114 00:05:50,262 --> 00:05:53,135 I'm gonna go talk to Jordan, try to get him some help. 115 00:05:53,135 --> 00:05:55,224 And I'm sorry to say, you two need to go 116 00:05:55,224 --> 00:05:56,878 and notify President Alpert's wife. 117 00:05:56,878 --> 00:05:58,445 OK. 118 00:05:58,445 --> 00:06:00,142 - Vince. - Yeah. 119 00:06:00,142 --> 00:06:02,187 I'm glad you're here. 120 00:06:02,187 --> 00:06:04,015 Yeah, me too. 121 00:06:04,015 --> 00:06:05,539 Thanks for looking out. 122 00:06:14,461 --> 00:06:16,898 Oh, thank you. 123 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:23,339 I, uh, was on the phone with him 124 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:24,949 when it happened. 125 00:06:24,949 --> 00:06:26,821 I-- 126 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:31,042 I heard him die. 127 00:06:31,042 --> 00:06:34,394 I am so sorry, ma'am. 128 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:37,614 We just have a few questions for you. 129 00:06:37,614 --> 00:06:40,008 If that's OK. 130 00:06:40,008 --> 00:06:43,054 Ms. Alpert, um, could you tell us 131 00:06:43,054 --> 00:06:45,666 what you and your husband were talking about on the phone? 132 00:06:45,666 --> 00:06:49,104 He thought, uh, people were beginning to delve 133 00:06:49,104 --> 00:06:54,457 into his research to look for examples of plagiarism. 134 00:06:54,457 --> 00:06:57,591 Popular tactic these days. 135 00:06:57,591 --> 00:07:01,464 What kind of mood was he in? 136 00:07:01,464 --> 00:07:04,075 Uh, paranoid. 137 00:07:04,075 --> 00:07:06,861 Frustrated. 138 00:07:06,861 --> 00:07:08,558 Exhausted. 139 00:07:08,558 --> 00:07:13,302 It's been a long few months. 140 00:07:13,302 --> 00:07:16,784 He was under a microscope. 141 00:07:16,784 --> 00:07:19,047 There was so much pressure 142 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:22,703 about what to say, about what not to say. 143 00:07:22,703 --> 00:07:26,097 You're referring to the Israeli conflict. 144 00:07:26,097 --> 00:07:28,578 Nate was a-- 145 00:07:28,578 --> 00:07:31,929 a firm believer in free speech. 146 00:07:31,929 --> 00:07:33,757 He didn't-- 147 00:07:33,757 --> 00:07:36,456 he didn't think it was his job to articulate 148 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:37,718 his personal opinions. 149 00:07:37,718 --> 00:07:42,636 He thought it might disrupt campus discourse. 150 00:07:42,636 --> 00:07:46,988 I can't imagine what you're going through. 151 00:07:46,988 --> 00:07:51,166 We just have one more question that would be really helpful. 152 00:07:51,166 --> 00:07:53,777 Do you know where your husband was 153 00:07:53,777 --> 00:07:55,736 earlier this evening, prior to calling you? 154 00:07:55,736 --> 00:07:58,303 I'm not sure. 155 00:07:58,303 --> 00:07:59,696 I don't-- 156 00:07:59,696 --> 00:08:01,219 he's so busy, I don't-- 157 00:08:01,219 --> 00:08:03,308 I really never know where he is. 158 00:08:03,308 --> 00:08:06,007 You can ask Nicole. 159 00:08:06,007 --> 00:08:08,400 She's my husband's chief of staff. 160 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,011 She'll know. 161 00:08:10,011 --> 00:08:11,795 Hi there. 162 00:08:11,795 --> 00:08:13,667 Do you know where President Alpert was 163 00:08:13,667 --> 00:08:15,190 earlier this evening? 164 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:16,626 He was at a party 165 00:08:16,626 --> 00:08:17,758 to celebrate the 100th anniversary 166 00:08:17,758 --> 00:08:19,107 of the student newspaper. 167 00:08:19,107 --> 00:08:20,978 And you didn't notice anything unusual? 168 00:08:20,978 --> 00:08:25,287 No arguments, no problems, altercations? 169 00:08:25,287 --> 00:08:27,507 It was a wonderful event. 170 00:08:27,507 --> 00:08:28,986 For the most part. 171 00:08:28,986 --> 00:08:32,903 For the most part? What do you mean? 172 00:08:32,903 --> 00:08:36,341 Toward the end of the night, a guest confronted Nate. 173 00:08:36,341 --> 00:08:38,561 Started yelling at him. 174 00:08:38,561 --> 00:08:41,825 Things got pretty heated, so Nate left. 175 00:08:41,825 --> 00:08:43,087 He didn't want to ruin the event. 176 00:08:43,087 --> 00:08:45,699 And what about the man he was arguing with? 177 00:08:45,699 --> 00:08:47,962 He left, too, a few minutes later. 178 00:08:47,962 --> 00:08:49,572 This hothead have a name? 179 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:54,925 That's ridiculous. 180 00:08:54,925 --> 00:08:57,972 There was no heated altercation. 181 00:08:57,972 --> 00:09:00,801 We had a conversation. - About what? 182 00:09:00,801 --> 00:09:03,543 There have been accusations that members of my team 183 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,546 have been hazing the younger players. 184 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:09,549 And Alpert, being a progressive, 185 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:11,115 cancel first, ask questions later 186 00:09:11,115 --> 00:09:13,509 type of president, has retained a law firm 187 00:09:13,509 --> 00:09:15,206 to investigate the allegations. 188 00:09:15,206 --> 00:09:16,686 And? 189 00:09:16,686 --> 00:09:19,123 I called him several times, but he's ignoring me, 190 00:09:19,123 --> 00:09:21,865 so I went to the party to talk to him in person. 191 00:09:21,865 --> 00:09:24,651 But Alpert didn't want to talk about it. 192 00:09:24,651 --> 00:09:27,479 And that was it? No physical confrontation? 193 00:09:27,479 --> 00:09:29,264 Look. 194 00:09:29,264 --> 00:09:32,572 I didn't respect the man, but I sure as hell didn't kill him. 195 00:09:35,618 --> 00:09:37,054 Hey. 196 00:09:37,054 --> 00:09:39,056 Lacrosse coach's story check out? 197 00:09:39,056 --> 00:09:41,624 Yeah, found some surveillance footage. 198 00:09:41,624 --> 00:09:43,234 He and Alpert argued for a few minutes, 199 00:09:43,234 --> 00:09:45,106 and then they walked off in separate directions. 200 00:09:45,106 --> 00:09:47,456 Look, we need to find a lead, 201 00:09:47,456 --> 00:09:49,501 something, anything, fast. 202 00:09:49,501 --> 00:09:52,200 This Alpert appears to have a lot of important friends. 203 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,245 He's got a lot of important enemies too. 204 00:09:54,245 --> 00:09:56,030 I spoke to his chief of staff again last night. 205 00:09:56,030 --> 00:09:57,509 She confirmed that Coach Herlihy 206 00:09:57,509 --> 00:09:58,902 was going to get fired. 207 00:09:58,902 --> 00:10:00,512 That got me thinking about all the other 208 00:10:00,512 --> 00:10:02,950 pissed off university employees that got let go. 209 00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:04,691 And? 210 00:10:04,691 --> 00:10:06,388 Currently, there are 24 211 00:10:06,388 --> 00:10:07,781 wrongful termination lawsuits 212 00:10:07,781 --> 00:10:10,087 naming Hudson and Alpert as defendants. 213 00:10:10,087 --> 00:10:11,959 Well, that's a hell of a lot of suspects. 214 00:10:11,959 --> 00:10:13,438 Yeah, but only one of them got slapped 215 00:10:13,438 --> 00:10:15,005 with a restraining order. 216 00:10:15,005 --> 00:10:18,095 Two days ago a guy by the name of Professor Phillip Klein. 217 00:10:19,967 --> 00:10:21,925 All right. Track him down. 218 00:10:21,925 --> 00:10:23,666 See if he happened to be in lower Manhattan 219 00:10:23,666 --> 00:10:26,626 last night around 9:30 or so. 220 00:10:29,324 --> 00:10:31,065 I think that's our guy. 221 00:10:32,936 --> 00:10:35,591 Yeah, I think so. 222 00:10:35,591 --> 00:10:38,986 Phillip Klein, a word, please. 223 00:10:39,551 --> 00:10:40,683 - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - Hey, hey, whoa. 224 00:10:40,683 --> 00:10:43,338 Hey, where you going? 225 00:10:43,338 --> 00:10:44,731 Sorry. I just-- 226 00:10:44,731 --> 00:10:46,210 I don't want to go to jail. 227 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:49,474 - Go to jail for what? - For fighting anti-Semitism. 228 00:10:49,474 --> 00:10:50,562 What are you talking about? 229 00:10:50,562 --> 00:10:52,129 From the river to the sea. 230 00:10:52,129 --> 00:10:53,783 Right, that's code for destroying Israel. 231 00:10:53,783 --> 00:10:55,916 It's vile. You're the police. 232 00:10:55,916 --> 00:10:57,395 You--you are arresting people 233 00:10:57,395 --> 00:10:59,354 for tearing down posters, for trying to remove 234 00:10:59,354 --> 00:11:00,572 this filth from the city. 235 00:11:00,572 --> 00:11:02,749 We're here to talk about Nathan Alpert. 236 00:11:02,749 --> 00:11:04,489 You know him? 237 00:11:04,489 --> 00:11:06,796 Of course, I know him. Why? 238 00:11:06,796 --> 00:11:08,363 He's dead. 239 00:11:10,974 --> 00:11:13,498 Well, that's good news. 240 00:11:13,498 --> 00:11:14,804 Oh, that's good news? 241 00:11:14,804 --> 00:11:16,240 Well, a little bad news-- 242 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,547 you're gonna come with us to the 2-7. 243 00:11:22,769 --> 00:11:25,075 What kind of a relationship did I have with Alpert? 244 00:11:25,075 --> 00:11:26,250 A terrible one. 245 00:11:26,250 --> 00:11:29,123 Shall I continue? - No. We get it. 246 00:11:29,123 --> 00:11:30,559 The question is, why? 247 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,430 What triggered all the rage? 248 00:11:32,430 --> 00:11:35,477 Son of a bitch fired me for having the audacity 249 00:11:35,477 --> 00:11:37,435 to suggest that someone born a man 250 00:11:37,435 --> 00:11:39,437 shouldn't be allowed to compete in women's athletics, 251 00:11:39,437 --> 00:11:42,005 regardless of how they identify. 252 00:11:42,005 --> 00:11:45,443 A college campus is a place to debate, express opinions. 253 00:11:45,443 --> 00:11:46,880 But not here, not these days. 254 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,752 You express the wrong view, you're canceled. 255 00:11:49,752 --> 00:11:52,668 Unless, of course, you're talking about Israel. 256 00:11:52,668 --> 00:11:54,365 Yeah, on that topic, you can say whatever you want. 257 00:11:54,365 --> 00:11:55,627 The more hateful, the better. 258 00:11:55,627 --> 00:11:57,760 I don't blame you for being upset. 259 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,328 I don't even blame you for threatening to kill him. 260 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:05,899 Yeah. We read the restraining order. 261 00:12:05,899 --> 00:12:07,901 I didn't mean it literally. 262 00:12:07,901 --> 00:12:09,772 I was sitting at home watching the news, 263 00:12:09,772 --> 00:12:12,383 reading about Israel. I-I-- 264 00:12:12,383 --> 00:12:13,863 I lost my mind. 265 00:12:13,863 --> 00:12:15,952 I threatened Alpert. - What about last night? 266 00:12:15,952 --> 00:12:18,868 Did you lose your mind again, around 9:30 p.m.? 267 00:12:18,868 --> 00:12:23,612 This is you leaving your apartment at 9:14, yeah? 268 00:12:23,612 --> 00:12:27,268 And this is also you coming back home at 9:42. 269 00:12:27,268 --> 00:12:29,618 Now, what were you doing for those 30 minutes? 270 00:12:29,618 --> 00:12:31,794 I took a walk up to Union Square Park, 271 00:12:31,794 --> 00:12:33,317 then came home. 272 00:12:33,317 --> 00:12:34,928 I stopped at a bodega a few blocks from my apartment, 273 00:12:34,928 --> 00:12:36,494 bought some aspirin. 274 00:12:36,494 --> 00:12:39,149 If you let me grab my phone, I can show you the receipt. 275 00:12:39,149 --> 00:12:40,803 Be our guest. 276 00:12:42,805 --> 00:12:45,721 Here, 9:34 p.m. 277 00:12:48,028 --> 00:12:49,377 OK. 278 00:12:49,377 --> 00:12:50,944 So who else hated Alpert? 279 00:12:50,944 --> 00:12:52,946 Everyone, 280 00:12:52,946 --> 00:12:55,383 especially the Jewish community. 281 00:12:55,383 --> 00:12:57,602 - Alpert is Jewish. - Exactly. 282 00:12:57,602 --> 00:12:59,343 He refused to issue a statement 283 00:12:59,343 --> 00:13:02,259 after the October 7th terrorist attack. 284 00:13:02,259 --> 00:13:05,349 George Floyd, Alpert issued a statement. 285 00:13:05,349 --> 00:13:07,264 Roe v. Wade, statement. 286 00:13:07,264 --> 00:13:10,006 Hamas slaughters innocent Israelis, 287 00:13:10,006 --> 00:13:11,834 no statement. 288 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:13,705 And then things, they just-- they got worse. 289 00:13:13,705 --> 00:13:16,491 Last month, this pro-Palestinian 290 00:13:16,491 --> 00:13:19,363 student group hosted a film symposium on campus, 291 00:13:19,363 --> 00:13:20,712 and the movies were disgusting. 292 00:13:20,712 --> 00:13:23,541 They were full of anti-Semitic tropes. 293 00:13:23,541 --> 00:13:25,456 Alpert said that the filmmakers had a right 294 00:13:25,456 --> 00:13:26,936 to express their views. 295 00:13:26,936 --> 00:13:28,546 So you're saying the Jewish community 296 00:13:28,546 --> 00:13:29,983 is pissed off at Alpert 'cause of this. 297 00:13:29,983 --> 00:13:31,549 Yes. 298 00:13:31,549 --> 00:13:33,421 Well, do you know anyone in that community 299 00:13:33,421 --> 00:13:34,726 who actually wanted to hurt him? 300 00:13:34,726 --> 00:13:38,382 Hurt him? No. Fire him, yeah. 301 00:13:38,382 --> 00:13:40,384 There was a group of influential donors 302 00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:42,125 demanding that he resign. 303 00:13:42,125 --> 00:13:44,258 But Alpert wouldn't budge. 304 00:13:44,258 --> 00:13:46,086 He told 'em all to go to hell. 305 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:56,313 That's you outside Alpert's home the day he was murdered. 306 00:13:56,313 --> 00:14:01,057 We were supposed to meet for lunch, but he wasn't there. 307 00:14:01,057 --> 00:14:05,018 I guess he got called into some sort of an emergency meeting. 308 00:14:05,018 --> 00:14:06,846 Lunch? 309 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:08,412 From the articles I read, you and Alpert 310 00:14:08,412 --> 00:14:09,544 didn't like each other very much. 311 00:14:09,544 --> 00:14:10,806 Now you're lunch buddies? 312 00:14:10,806 --> 00:14:12,112 No. 313 00:14:12,112 --> 00:14:13,548 Nate was a good man. 314 00:14:13,548 --> 00:14:14,897 He just wasn't a great leader. 315 00:14:14,897 --> 00:14:16,681 So what was the purpose of lunch? 316 00:14:16,681 --> 00:14:19,336 To persuade him to ban this hateful 317 00:14:19,336 --> 00:14:21,599 pro-Palestinian student group. 318 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:23,471 The one that put on the film symposium? 319 00:14:23,471 --> 00:14:24,820 They're vile. 320 00:14:24,820 --> 00:14:26,169 But Alpert said they had a right to present 321 00:14:26,169 --> 00:14:28,345 whatever films they wanted. 322 00:14:28,345 --> 00:14:31,218 It was all about freedom of expression. 323 00:14:31,218 --> 00:14:32,915 Didn't something like that happen at the University 324 00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:35,744 of Pennsylvania? - Uh-huh. But this was worse. 325 00:14:35,744 --> 00:14:39,617 I had a private detective do some digging into these kids. 326 00:14:39,617 --> 00:14:42,925 Wow. Private detective. I'm intrigued. 327 00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:44,840 Please, what did he find? 328 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,930 Video of a student praising Hamas 329 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:53,675 for their courage on campus at the film symposium. 330 00:14:53,675 --> 00:14:55,764 That was a bridge too far even for Alpert. 331 00:14:55,764 --> 00:14:57,461 Finally, agreed to get rid of these idiots. 332 00:14:57,461 --> 00:14:59,115 So you met with Alpert that day? 333 00:14:59,115 --> 00:15:02,379 Yeah, I was still trying to get him to release a statement 334 00:15:02,379 --> 00:15:05,034 regarding the October 7th attack. 335 00:15:05,034 --> 00:15:06,296 Better late than never. 336 00:15:06,296 --> 00:15:07,732 But he wouldn't do it. 337 00:15:07,732 --> 00:15:11,258 Said he didn't care how many donors he pissed off. 338 00:15:11,258 --> 00:15:12,650 Son of a bitch had his principles, 339 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:14,522 I'll give him that. 340 00:15:14,522 --> 00:15:18,656 OK, well, in the interest of moving along here, 341 00:15:18,656 --> 00:15:22,008 where were you last night at 9:30 p.m.? 342 00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:23,487 At Madison Square Garden 343 00:15:23,487 --> 00:15:25,533 watching the Knicks get their ass kicked. 344 00:15:28,492 --> 00:15:30,364 Man, I am pretty sure that social media 345 00:15:30,364 --> 00:15:31,974 is the worst thing ever invented. 346 00:15:31,974 --> 00:15:33,497 Yep. 347 00:15:33,497 --> 00:15:34,846 That and cashew milk. 348 00:15:34,846 --> 00:15:38,154 Mm. You don't know what you're missing, brother. 349 00:15:38,154 --> 00:15:39,764 Nut milk is the best milk. 350 00:15:41,505 --> 00:15:44,334 Hey, man, I gotta ask 351 00:15:44,334 --> 00:15:46,858 what happened with Cosgrove? 352 00:15:46,858 --> 00:15:49,165 I knew him a little bit back in the day; he was a good cop. 353 00:15:49,165 --> 00:15:51,298 Great cop. 354 00:15:51,298 --> 00:15:53,256 He just got jammed up. 355 00:15:53,256 --> 00:15:55,171 On what? 356 00:15:55,171 --> 00:15:56,433 Being too honest about things 357 00:15:56,433 --> 00:15:58,435 people aren't too honest about these days. 358 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:02,439 Yeah, it is not a great time to have an opinion, is it? 359 00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:04,833 It is not. 360 00:16:04,833 --> 00:16:06,748 Hey, you ever hear of Chloe Esper? 361 00:16:06,748 --> 00:16:09,055 - Yeah, the actor. - Yeah, I guess so. 362 00:16:09,055 --> 00:16:11,013 She's a student at Hudson. 363 00:16:11,013 --> 00:16:12,667 And founder of the pro-Palestinian student group 364 00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:14,538 Geller was talking about. 365 00:16:14,538 --> 00:16:16,845 13 million followers, 366 00:16:16,845 --> 00:16:18,412 and some very aggressive opinions 367 00:16:18,412 --> 00:16:19,848 on what's going on in Gaza. 368 00:16:19,848 --> 00:16:22,111 Looks like she just posted a new video too. 369 00:16:22,111 --> 00:16:23,983 Well, let's check that out. 370 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:24,984 Yeah. 371 00:16:28,683 --> 00:16:31,294 Hudson University president Nathan Alpert 372 00:16:31,294 --> 00:16:35,255 is a coward and a puppet of the Zionist regime. 373 00:16:35,255 --> 00:16:38,127 His decision today to ban our student group 374 00:16:38,127 --> 00:16:40,912 is filled with hate and proves that his goal 375 00:16:40,912 --> 00:16:44,090 is to help the Israel regime oppress and slaughter 376 00:16:44,090 --> 00:16:46,309 innocent Palestinians. 377 00:16:46,309 --> 00:16:50,009 In short, he is a traitor. 378 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:51,662 Traitor, huh? 379 00:16:51,662 --> 00:16:53,142 Hell of a word. 380 00:17:08,984 --> 00:17:10,290 Can I help you? 381 00:17:10,290 --> 00:17:11,769 Looking for Chloe Esper. 382 00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:13,206 May I ask what this is about? 383 00:17:13,206 --> 00:17:16,383 No, you may not. 384 00:17:16,383 --> 00:17:18,733 Chloe? Hi. 385 00:17:18,733 --> 00:17:21,257 I'm Detective Riley. This is Detective Shaw. 386 00:17:21,257 --> 00:17:24,304 Like to ask you a few questions. 387 00:17:24,304 --> 00:17:26,784 Let me guess. You saw the video I posted. 388 00:17:26,784 --> 00:17:28,047 We sure did. 389 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:29,483 You said some pretty horrible things. 390 00:17:29,483 --> 00:17:31,615 I spoke the truth. My truth. 391 00:17:31,615 --> 00:17:32,703 Your truth? 392 00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:34,705 Because you have some unique insight 393 00:17:34,705 --> 00:17:35,880 into the situation? 394 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,839 My mother was born in Gaza, 395 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:39,449 lived there until she was 22. 396 00:17:39,449 --> 00:17:42,061 And I still have family there, so 397 00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:43,714 I know how people are treated over there, 398 00:17:43,714 --> 00:17:45,934 even before this war, but now it's-- 399 00:17:45,934 --> 00:17:47,196 it's beyond horrific. 400 00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:49,459 Innocent people are dying every day. 401 00:17:49,459 --> 00:17:52,636 I-I know it's a very tough situation, 402 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:55,030 and I can see why you're so passionate. 403 00:17:55,030 --> 00:17:58,512 And angry. 404 00:17:58,512 --> 00:18:00,470 You think I killed President Alpert? 405 00:18:00,470 --> 00:18:02,603 We saw the video you made. You called him a traitor. 406 00:18:02,603 --> 00:18:06,041 Yeah, because he wanted to destroy this organization. 407 00:18:06,041 --> 00:18:08,652 He was gonna ban us from campus, 408 00:18:08,652 --> 00:18:11,394 just because a bunch of rich donors were offended 409 00:18:11,394 --> 00:18:14,484 that we sponsored a Middle Eastern film symposium. 410 00:18:14,484 --> 00:18:16,356 Where were you Tuesday night at 9:30 p.m.? 411 00:18:16,356 --> 00:18:17,966 I'm not going to answer that. 412 00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:19,663 If you're innocent, it's in your best interest to do so. 413 00:18:19,663 --> 00:18:21,230 - Please leave. - You heard what she said. 414 00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:22,927 You have no right to harass her. 415 00:18:22,927 --> 00:18:24,233 No one's harassing anybody. 416 00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:25,930 What's going on? 417 00:18:25,930 --> 00:18:27,410 Is there a problem? - No, ma'am. 418 00:18:27,410 --> 00:18:29,543 We just wanted to talk to one of your students here. 419 00:18:29,543 --> 00:18:31,240 Sounds like she doesn't want to talk to you. 420 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,415 This won't take long. 421 00:18:32,415 --> 00:18:34,156 She doesn't want to talk to you. 422 00:18:34,156 --> 00:18:35,766 - Just a few simple-- - You have no right 423 00:18:35,766 --> 00:18:37,507 coming in here, harassing my students. 424 00:18:37,507 --> 00:18:38,639 So I'm going to ask you one more-- 425 00:18:38,639 --> 00:18:39,901 And I'm gonna tell you one more time, 426 00:18:39,901 --> 00:18:41,555 nobody's harassing anybody, so just relax. 427 00:18:41,555 --> 00:18:42,817 There's no need for this type of attitude. 428 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:45,167 Don't you dare spin this around on me. 429 00:18:45,167 --> 00:18:47,952 You come here to our home without a warrant, 430 00:18:47,952 --> 00:18:49,519 accusing my students of-- 431 00:18:49,519 --> 00:18:51,521 No one has accused anyone of anything, okay. 432 00:18:51,521 --> 00:18:53,610 This is all very stand-- - Riley. Riley. 433 00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:55,221 Um... 434 00:18:55,221 --> 00:18:58,702 the lady has a point. 435 00:18:58,702 --> 00:19:01,444 Thank you for your time. 436 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:05,883 You see the lip balm on Chloe's desk? 437 00:19:05,883 --> 00:19:08,451 Paradies. 438 00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:13,978 What the hell just happened? 439 00:19:13,978 --> 00:19:15,632 What'd you do to those students? 440 00:19:15,632 --> 00:19:16,894 Excuse me? 441 00:19:16,894 --> 00:19:18,461 My phone has been ringing off the hook-- 442 00:19:18,461 --> 00:19:21,725 Chloe Esper's agent, her lawyer, her publicist. 443 00:19:21,725 --> 00:19:23,858 Social media is on fire. 444 00:19:23,858 --> 00:19:25,903 Chloe posted that we were harassing her, 445 00:19:25,903 --> 00:19:28,689 that we're in the pocket of the Israeli government, 446 00:19:28,689 --> 00:19:30,908 that we're trying to silence the opposition 447 00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:33,041 to the war crimes that are happening in Gaza. 448 00:19:33,041 --> 00:19:34,216 Lou, I promise you, all we did 449 00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:35,522 was ask some questions. 450 00:19:35,522 --> 00:19:36,871 And I can promise you, I have not been in touch 451 00:19:36,871 --> 00:19:38,394 with anybody from the Israeli government. 452 00:19:38,394 --> 00:19:40,962 Hey, check it out. 453 00:19:40,962 --> 00:19:44,270 Just found video from the Paradies boutique near campus. 454 00:19:45,314 --> 00:19:48,665 That looks like the same camo parka the killer was wearing. 455 00:19:48,665 --> 00:19:50,450 Can you find another angle of that? 456 00:19:52,278 --> 00:19:54,497 Need to get a better look at that face. 457 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:09,686 Detectives. 458 00:20:09,686 --> 00:20:11,384 What the hell are you guys doing here? 459 00:20:11,384 --> 00:20:12,559 I don't wanna talk to you. 460 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:13,995 And we don't wanna talk to you. 461 00:20:13,995 --> 00:20:15,910 Cameron Lawson. 462 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:18,565 Do not move. Do not move. Do not move. 463 00:20:18,565 --> 00:20:21,089 Don't move. 464 00:20:21,089 --> 00:20:22,525 You're under arrest for murder. 465 00:20:22,525 --> 00:20:25,528 Murder? That's a lie! 466 00:20:25,528 --> 00:20:27,095 We'll see about that. 467 00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:28,575 - Whoa, whoa, whoa! - Out of the way. 468 00:20:28,575 --> 00:20:30,751 Out of the way. - Leave him alone. 469 00:20:30,751 --> 00:20:32,013 - Hey, back up. - Leave him alone. 470 00:20:32,013 --> 00:20:33,580 Back up! Everybody back up. 471 00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:35,451 - You can't do this. - Officers! 472 00:20:35,451 --> 00:20:37,845 Everybody back up. 473 00:20:41,631 --> 00:20:43,285 Order. 474 00:20:43,285 --> 00:20:46,245 Order in this courtroom. 475 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:47,550 Order! 476 00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:49,900 People versus Cameron Lawson, 477 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:53,121 charging murder in the second degree. 478 00:20:53,121 --> 00:20:55,863 How do you plead, sir? 479 00:20:55,863 --> 00:20:57,299 Not guilty. 480 00:20:57,299 --> 00:20:58,822 - Question on bail? - There is. 481 00:20:58,822 --> 00:21:01,521 The defendant was a member of a student organization 482 00:21:01,521 --> 00:21:03,653 at Hudson University, which sponsored 483 00:21:03,653 --> 00:21:06,482 a film symposium rife with insensitive 484 00:21:06,482 --> 00:21:09,398 and offensive content. 485 00:21:09,398 --> 00:21:11,531 After one of the screenings, he toasted Hamas 486 00:21:11,531 --> 00:21:13,446 for its courage in executing 487 00:21:13,446 --> 00:21:16,362 the horrific October 7th attack on Israel. 488 00:21:16,362 --> 00:21:18,451 As a result, university president 489 00:21:18,451 --> 00:21:20,191 Nathan Alpert chose to dismantle 490 00:21:20,191 --> 00:21:21,628 the student organization. 491 00:21:21,628 --> 00:21:23,934 This enraged the defendant. 492 00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:27,416 So he lay in wait and, without warning or provocation, 493 00:21:27,416 --> 00:21:30,332 he stabbed Mr. Alpert to death. - Objection. 494 00:21:30,332 --> 00:21:31,986 Let Miss Maroun finish. 495 00:21:31,986 --> 00:21:34,075 The defendant's parka was found near the crime scene 496 00:21:34,075 --> 00:21:35,598 covered in the victim's blood. 497 00:21:35,598 --> 00:21:37,513 The murder weapon was in the pocket 498 00:21:37,513 --> 00:21:39,472 along with some lip balm, which contained 499 00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:41,212 the defendant's DNA. 500 00:21:41,212 --> 00:21:43,563 The people seek remand. 501 00:21:43,563 --> 00:21:44,868 Now. 502 00:21:44,868 --> 00:21:47,523 My client is a 20-year-old history major 503 00:21:47,523 --> 00:21:49,612 who lives on the Upper East Side. 504 00:21:49,612 --> 00:21:51,788 He's not a terrorist or a murderer, 505 00:21:51,788 --> 00:21:53,703 and he's certainly not a flight risk. 506 00:21:53,703 --> 00:21:56,489 Moreover, the government's case is weak. 507 00:21:56,489 --> 00:21:58,404 They can't put my client anywhere 508 00:21:58,404 --> 00:22:01,755 near the scene of the crime because he wasn't there. 509 00:22:01,755 --> 00:22:04,235 He's innocent. 510 00:22:04,235 --> 00:22:06,412 Bail is set at $1 million. 511 00:22:24,865 --> 00:22:27,346 I'm surprised the judge granted bail. 512 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:29,739 I'm surprised you described the content of those films 513 00:22:29,739 --> 00:22:33,439 as offensive and insensitive. - As opposed to? 514 00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:36,267 Hateful and malicious. 515 00:22:36,267 --> 00:22:38,400 I'm not going to debate adjectives. 516 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,926 You chose them. 517 00:22:42,926 --> 00:22:45,015 I know you have family in Lebanon. 518 00:22:45,015 --> 00:22:47,104 I don't want to talk about that, Nolan. 519 00:22:47,104 --> 00:22:48,671 There's no point. 520 00:22:48,671 --> 00:22:51,413 It's not in the best interest of the case. 521 00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:54,590 I think it's better to ignore politics and personal opinions 522 00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:56,853 and direct our energy towards the case, 523 00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:59,290 and getting justice for Nathan Alpert. 524 00:22:59,290 --> 00:23:02,076 Right now, that means finding a way 525 00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:04,687 to put Cam Lawson near the crime scene. 526 00:23:11,128 --> 00:23:13,130 This is from a surveillance camera 527 00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:14,175 a few blocks from the German boutique 528 00:23:14,175 --> 00:23:16,438 that you and Cam both frequent. 529 00:23:16,438 --> 00:23:18,527 All I see is someone getting into a car. 530 00:23:18,527 --> 00:23:20,137 Well, we believe that's Cam Lawson. 531 00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:22,444 - Why? - His jacket. 532 00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:24,446 He's not the only guy in Manhattan 533 00:23:24,446 --> 00:23:26,100 who owns a camo parka. 534 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,797 He's the only guy in Manhattan 535 00:23:27,797 --> 00:23:31,366 with a camo parka getting into a car registered in your name. 536 00:23:31,366 --> 00:23:33,499 Where are you going with this? 537 00:23:33,499 --> 00:23:37,546 This is Cam getting out of your vehicle 20 minutes later, 538 00:23:37,546 --> 00:23:40,331 a block from where Alpert was murdered. 539 00:23:40,331 --> 00:23:42,203 You can't even see his face. 540 00:23:42,203 --> 00:23:45,293 You need to tell us what you know, Chloe, now. 541 00:23:47,034 --> 00:23:48,992 This is not a movie. 542 00:23:48,992 --> 00:23:50,864 You only get one take. 543 00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:53,823 And you better get it right. 544 00:23:53,823 --> 00:23:57,610 Unless she tells us everything that really happened, 545 00:23:57,610 --> 00:24:00,090 we're gonna charge her with being an accomplice to murder. 546 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,274 OK. Fine. 547 00:24:10,274 --> 00:24:12,189 I-- 548 00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:15,976 I ran into Cam outside my boyfriend's apartment. 549 00:24:15,976 --> 00:24:17,456 He asked for a ride and I said yes. 550 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:19,370 That's it. That's all I know. 551 00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:21,503 He tell you what he was planning to do that night? 552 00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:23,549 No. 553 00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:26,595 Where'd you go after you dropped him off? 554 00:24:26,595 --> 00:24:29,685 To dinner with my agent 555 00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:35,474 Chloe Esper's alibi check out? 556 00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:38,128 Still waiting to hear back from the restaurant manager 557 00:24:38,128 --> 00:24:40,043 and her agent. 558 00:24:40,043 --> 00:24:42,176 Uh, wait a second. 559 00:24:42,829 --> 00:24:47,137 The manager of the restaurant confirms Chloe was there. 560 00:24:47,137 --> 00:24:50,053 All right, so Chloe wasn't at the crime scene. 561 00:24:50,053 --> 00:24:54,928 No, but she's pissed off, that's for sure. 562 00:24:54,928 --> 00:24:58,540 She's blowing up social media right now, as we speak. 563 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:02,501 She did a livestream with Nasser, that professor. 564 00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,894 Cam Lawson is my dear friend, 565 00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:08,985 and he's a good person and a true believer in our cause, 566 00:25:08,985 --> 00:25:12,423 and he's being framed by the New York Police Department 567 00:25:12,423 --> 00:25:14,687 and the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. 568 00:25:14,687 --> 00:25:17,864 They're trying to punish Cam for having the courage 569 00:25:17,864 --> 00:25:19,735 to speak out. 570 00:25:19,735 --> 00:25:22,259 Well, this is not surprising, of course, 571 00:25:22,259 --> 00:25:25,698 since both organizations have close ties to Israel. 572 00:25:25,698 --> 00:25:28,701 The American government is trying to squelch dissent 573 00:25:28,701 --> 00:25:31,268 and obscure what's really happening in Gaza. 574 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:33,575 And trying to hide the fact that Israel 575 00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:37,187 are repressing innocent men, women, and children. 576 00:25:37,187 --> 00:25:39,059 So take a stand. 577 00:25:39,059 --> 00:25:42,018 Voice your outrage! 578 00:25:42,018 --> 00:25:45,761 This is the only way we can change the status quo. 579 00:25:45,761 --> 00:25:47,894 Wow. That's subtle. 580 00:25:47,894 --> 00:25:52,072 "Chloe needs to condemn Hamas first, then worry about Gaza." 581 00:25:52,072 --> 00:25:56,511 "Chloe Esper is a self-promoting anti-Semite." 582 00:25:56,511 --> 00:25:59,122 "Rot in hell." 583 00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:01,429 She's definitely passionate. 584 00:26:01,429 --> 00:26:04,519 She's passionate and irresponsible. 585 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:06,173 No. 586 00:26:06,173 --> 00:26:08,610 She's just a kid. 587 00:26:10,003 --> 00:26:13,354 A kid with a massive platform, 588 00:26:13,354 --> 00:26:16,966 trying to give voice to all her anger and frustration. 589 00:26:16,966 --> 00:26:18,533 No, it's more than that. 590 00:26:18,533 --> 00:26:21,318 Maybe, but... 591 00:26:21,318 --> 00:26:23,320 she believes what she believes. 592 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,279 - And you agree with her? - No! 593 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,716 I most definitely don't. 594 00:26:27,716 --> 00:26:32,199 But that doesn't mean that what she's saying is crazy. 595 00:26:32,199 --> 00:26:34,810 Like it or not, she's the queen of the far left. 596 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:37,160 They are begging her to take center stage, 597 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,772 to be the mouthpiece of the Palestinian cause. 598 00:26:39,772 --> 00:26:41,861 They want her to be a martyr. 599 00:26:41,861 --> 00:26:44,820 A young photogenic martyr. 600 00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:47,518 And she's taking the bait. 601 00:26:47,518 --> 00:26:51,697 I just think she's a lot less naive than you do. 602 00:26:51,697 --> 00:26:53,655 Either way, we need a gag order. 603 00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:56,527 Chloe and her friends are polluting the jury pool 604 00:26:56,527 --> 00:26:59,226 with all this hyperbole and misinformation. 605 00:27:06,189 --> 00:27:10,454 The righteous will not be silenced. 606 00:27:10,454 --> 00:27:13,849 The oppressors will not prevail 607 00:27:13,849 --> 00:27:15,372 because you will not let them. 608 00:27:17,548 --> 00:27:19,420 Thank you, everyone, for coming out-- 609 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:21,248 So much for the gag order. 610 00:27:21,248 --> 00:27:24,120 And now, some words from Chloe Esper. 611 00:27:32,041 --> 00:27:36,219 Thank you, Professor Nasser, for your inspiration. 612 00:27:36,219 --> 00:27:37,394 And thank you, Cam Lawson, 613 00:27:37,394 --> 00:27:38,961 for your commitment to the cause. 614 00:27:44,271 --> 00:27:46,055 This guy's about to stand trial for murder, 615 00:27:46,055 --> 00:27:47,709 and he's up there putting on a show. 616 00:27:47,709 --> 00:27:50,233 Will you fight for a free Palestine? 617 00:27:50,233 --> 00:27:52,235 From the river to the sea! 618 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:56,805 It's a reflection of our hope for a free Palestine. 619 00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:05,161 Shooter, brown jacket, gray hat. 620 00:28:05,161 --> 00:28:06,641 I see him. 621 00:28:06,641 --> 00:28:08,904 Move, move! 622 00:28:08,904 --> 00:28:10,776 Chloe. Chloe. 623 00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:11,907 Chloe. Chloe. 624 00:28:11,907 --> 00:28:13,039 Hey, Chloe. Can you hear me? 625 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,954 Chloe. Chloe. 626 00:28:14,954 --> 00:28:16,782 We need an ambulance! 627 00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:19,219 Stop! Stop! 628 00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:23,745 Hey, hey! 629 00:28:23,745 --> 00:28:25,616 On the ground! Stop! 630 00:28:26,879 --> 00:28:28,271 Stay down! 631 00:28:29,969 --> 00:28:31,100 Hey, drop it! 632 00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:33,320 Drop the gun, Professor Klein! 633 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,756 Put it down. 634 00:28:34,756 --> 00:28:36,323 Drop that gun, Phillip. 635 00:28:37,977 --> 00:28:39,239 Hey. 636 00:28:39,239 --> 00:28:41,415 My college roommate, he's dead. 637 00:28:41,415 --> 00:28:43,504 They killed him. They killed his whole family. 638 00:28:43,504 --> 00:28:45,636 You need to drop that gun. 639 00:28:45,636 --> 00:28:48,596 They're trying to destroy us. Never again. 640 00:28:48,596 --> 00:28:49,902 No, never again. 641 00:28:49,902 --> 00:28:51,164 Hey, listen, listen, listen, listen to me. 642 00:28:51,164 --> 00:28:53,601 - No, never again. - Listen to me. I get it. 643 00:28:53,601 --> 00:28:55,124 You're trying to protect your people. 644 00:28:55,124 --> 00:28:56,386 You're trying to be a good person. 645 00:28:56,386 --> 00:28:57,866 I get that. I get that. 646 00:28:57,866 --> 00:28:59,172 But this is not how you do it. 647 00:28:59,172 --> 00:29:01,522 Nobody else needs to die today. Look at me. 648 00:29:01,522 --> 00:29:04,960 I need you to put the gun down. Come on. 649 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,657 Drop the gun. 650 00:29:06,657 --> 00:29:09,704 Drop the gun or I will shoot you. 651 00:29:09,704 --> 00:29:11,793 Drop the gun! 652 00:29:35,077 --> 00:29:36,731 He's dead. 653 00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:51,354 Riley, 654 00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:53,792 just want to thank you for-- 655 00:29:56,446 --> 00:29:59,145 I appreciate you. - Yeah. 656 00:29:59,145 --> 00:30:01,321 I wasn't expecting him to-- 657 00:30:05,412 --> 00:30:07,762 You OK? 658 00:30:07,762 --> 00:30:09,851 Yeah, I think so. 659 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:13,681 I never shot anyone before. 660 00:30:23,691 --> 00:30:26,476 Chloe didn't make it. 661 00:30:26,476 --> 00:30:28,696 Two more dead bodies 662 00:30:28,696 --> 00:30:33,005 in the name of free speech. 663 00:30:33,005 --> 00:30:35,224 When did expressing your beliefs 664 00:30:35,224 --> 00:30:38,401 become so fraught? 665 00:30:38,401 --> 00:30:41,622 When it comes to Israel and Palestine, 666 00:30:41,622 --> 00:30:43,798 forever. 667 00:30:46,932 --> 00:30:49,717 The court gave us two days 668 00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:53,373 to see if we can still make a case, 669 00:30:53,373 --> 00:30:54,853 so let's dig in. 670 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:58,334 Chloe was the only witness 671 00:30:58,334 --> 00:31:00,119 who could put Cam near the crime scene. 672 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:01,207 I know. 673 00:31:01,207 --> 00:31:04,253 So we need to find a different way. 674 00:31:07,648 --> 00:31:10,390 What about her boyfriend? 675 00:31:10,390 --> 00:31:12,348 What do you mean? 676 00:31:12,348 --> 00:31:14,176 Well, she was leaving his place 677 00:31:14,176 --> 00:31:17,266 when she ran into Cam that night, right? 678 00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:18,485 Yeah. 679 00:31:18,485 --> 00:31:21,053 So talk to him. 680 00:31:21,053 --> 00:31:22,706 Maybe he knows something. 681 00:31:35,197 --> 00:31:37,591 I want to help. I do. 682 00:31:37,591 --> 00:31:41,203 But, like I said, I didn't see Cam that night. 683 00:31:41,203 --> 00:31:43,814 Who else were they hanging out with? 684 00:31:43,814 --> 00:31:46,730 This history professor, Kendra Nasser. 685 00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:48,602 They're both obsessed with her 686 00:31:48,602 --> 00:31:51,083 and her extreme pro-Palestinian propaganda. 687 00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:52,867 Wait, what do you mean? 688 00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:55,087 Before they met her, they barely talked 689 00:31:55,087 --> 00:31:57,263 about all this, but she brainwashed them. 690 00:31:57,263 --> 00:32:01,528 She started preaching and manipulating. 691 00:32:01,528 --> 00:32:03,399 She's hardcore too. 692 00:32:03,399 --> 00:32:06,489 She thought October 7th was justified. 693 00:32:06,489 --> 00:32:08,491 I mean, I support innocent Palestinians, 694 00:32:08,491 --> 00:32:10,015 but come on. 695 00:32:10,015 --> 00:32:12,104 That was a flat out act of terror. 696 00:32:15,498 --> 00:32:18,197 We found this video of Cam in the lobby 697 00:32:18,197 --> 00:32:21,156 of Kendra Nasser's apartment an hour after the murder. 698 00:32:23,289 --> 00:32:26,683 This is the two of them walking into her apartment. 699 00:32:26,683 --> 00:32:29,425 So what are you suggesting? 700 00:32:29,425 --> 00:32:31,210 That she may have indoctrinated him, 701 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:32,994 used him to do her bidding. 702 00:32:32,994 --> 00:32:34,517 Based on this? 703 00:32:34,517 --> 00:32:35,866 There's more. 704 00:32:35,866 --> 00:32:37,651 Police executed a search warrant 705 00:32:37,651 --> 00:32:39,479 at Nasser's apartment today. 706 00:32:39,479 --> 00:32:42,351 They found a knife missing from her cutlery set-- 707 00:32:42,351 --> 00:32:44,484 the exact same type of knife that was identified 708 00:32:44,484 --> 00:32:46,051 as the murder weapon. 709 00:32:46,051 --> 00:32:47,966 Sounds to me like it was her idea. 710 00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:49,532 Sounds to me like you're gonna need 711 00:32:49,532 --> 00:32:52,057 a lot more evidence. Talk to the defendant. 712 00:32:52,057 --> 00:32:53,493 See what he has to say. 713 00:32:53,493 --> 00:32:57,627 If your theory is right, we'll give him a deal. 714 00:32:57,627 --> 00:32:59,499 A deal? 715 00:32:59,499 --> 00:33:04,460 No. He stabbed Alpert in the chest twice 716 00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:07,246 and dropped a card on his body calling him a traitor. 717 00:33:07,246 --> 00:33:09,248 That is murder all day long. 718 00:33:09,248 --> 00:33:11,032 But you just said that you believe 719 00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:13,861 Nasser manipulated him. - She did. 720 00:33:13,861 --> 00:33:15,515 Then she's more culpable. 721 00:33:15,515 --> 00:33:19,345 I agree, but Cam still needs to pay for what he did. 722 00:33:19,345 --> 00:33:21,738 He killed the Jewish president of a university 723 00:33:21,738 --> 00:33:24,567 for political reasons. 724 00:33:24,567 --> 00:33:26,395 Think about the optics. 725 00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:28,093 Let me worry about the optics. 726 00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:30,182 You worry about the case. 727 00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:31,357 Talk to the defendant. 728 00:33:31,357 --> 00:33:33,620 See if he's willing to cooperate. 729 00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:44,326 Professor Nasser is a leader, a visionary. 730 00:33:44,326 --> 00:33:46,198 She's the only person who tells the truth 731 00:33:46,198 --> 00:33:49,027 no matter the consequences. - Cameron, please. 732 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,724 She treats me like an adult. 733 00:33:50,724 --> 00:33:52,552 She sees me. 734 00:33:52,552 --> 00:33:55,424 What are you talking about, she sees you? 735 00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:57,513 What the hell is wrong with you? 736 00:33:57,513 --> 00:33:59,124 OK. Enough. 737 00:33:59,124 --> 00:34:01,256 Let's hear what Mr. Price has to say. 738 00:34:01,256 --> 00:34:03,171 We're offering you a lifeline, Cam. 739 00:34:03,171 --> 00:34:04,346 In a few months, 740 00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:07,001 Nasser won't even remember your name. 741 00:34:07,001 --> 00:34:08,394 She'll have moved on 742 00:34:08,394 --> 00:34:12,050 and found another young, cute disciple. 743 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:14,095 Tell them what happened. 744 00:34:14,095 --> 00:34:17,925 Tell them how she convinced you it was the right thing to do. 745 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:20,014 Is that what happened? 746 00:34:21,537 --> 00:34:23,757 Did she tell you to kill Alpert? 747 00:34:26,499 --> 00:34:28,675 If you cooperate, I will recommend 748 00:34:28,675 --> 00:34:30,938 you serve 10 years. 749 00:34:30,938 --> 00:34:34,289 If not, you're looking at life. 750 00:34:37,727 --> 00:34:39,773 It's now or never. 751 00:34:48,477 --> 00:34:51,611 Anyone who tells you October 7th was a terrorist attack 752 00:34:51,611 --> 00:34:52,960 is categorically wrong. 753 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,528 It was but a necessary step-- - Detectives. 754 00:34:55,528 --> 00:34:57,921 Kendra Nasser, hands behind your back. 755 00:34:57,921 --> 00:34:59,923 You can't do this! 756 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:01,925 You have the right to remain silent. 757 00:35:01,925 --> 00:35:03,013 - Leave her alone. - Let her go! 758 00:35:03,013 --> 00:35:03,971 It means you've got the freedom 759 00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:05,146 to keep your mouth shut. 760 00:35:05,146 --> 00:35:06,365 Good luck with that, Detective. 761 00:35:06,365 --> 00:35:07,496 She has the right to speak the truth. 762 00:35:07,496 --> 00:35:08,454 Back up, everybody. Back up, please. 763 00:35:08,454 --> 00:35:09,455 Hey, what are you doing to her? 764 00:35:09,455 --> 00:35:11,413 Take a seat. Take a seat. 765 00:35:17,898 --> 00:35:20,161 Mr. Lawson, could you please 766 00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:22,381 tell the members of the jury about your relationship 767 00:35:22,381 --> 00:35:23,686 with the defendant. 768 00:35:25,253 --> 00:35:27,125 She was my professor. 769 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:28,430 Did you have a relationship with her 770 00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:30,040 outside of the classroom as well? 771 00:35:34,871 --> 00:35:37,265 She was also my mentor. 772 00:35:37,265 --> 00:35:41,704 So you still feel a strong affinity towards her? 773 00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:44,838 Yes. 774 00:35:44,838 --> 00:35:46,709 Permission to ask leading questions. 775 00:35:47,754 --> 00:35:49,408 Go ahead. 776 00:35:49,408 --> 00:35:50,713 Did the defendant invite you 777 00:35:50,713 --> 00:35:53,716 to private study sessions in her home? 778 00:35:55,631 --> 00:35:57,198 Yes. 779 00:35:57,198 --> 00:35:59,505 Sometimes it was just the two of you late at night. 780 00:35:59,505 --> 00:36:01,550 Yes, sometimes. So what? 781 00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:03,204 And she served you wine, 782 00:36:03,204 --> 00:36:04,771 talked about the plight of the Palestinians. 783 00:36:04,771 --> 00:36:06,294 It's important. 784 00:36:06,294 --> 00:36:08,122 And we both feel passionately about that. 785 00:36:08,122 --> 00:36:09,602 And, ultimately, the defendant 786 00:36:09,602 --> 00:36:11,517 urged you to kill Hudson University president 787 00:36:11,517 --> 00:36:13,475 Nathan Alpert, didn't she? 788 00:36:13,475 --> 00:36:14,694 Well, she may have suggested it, 789 00:36:14,694 --> 00:36:16,609 but it's not like she forced me to. 790 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:18,524 The defendant also told you where Alpert 791 00:36:18,524 --> 00:36:20,047 would be that night, correct? 792 00:36:20,047 --> 00:36:21,657 I could have found him on my own. 793 00:36:21,657 --> 00:36:23,877 She was angry that Alpert banned 794 00:36:23,877 --> 00:36:25,531 the Palestinian student organization, 795 00:36:25,531 --> 00:36:27,794 so she told you where he would be. 796 00:36:27,794 --> 00:36:30,710 She gave you a knife from her kitchen. 797 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:32,015 I can't remember how I got it. 798 00:36:32,015 --> 00:36:33,365 It came from her kitchen. 799 00:36:33,365 --> 00:36:34,540 Well, she may have given it to me, but-- 800 00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:36,933 May or did? 801 00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:40,894 Did. 802 00:36:45,246 --> 00:36:46,378 Nothing further. 803 00:36:48,858 --> 00:36:50,469 Professor Nasser wasn't with you 804 00:36:50,469 --> 00:36:52,384 when you killed President Alpert? 805 00:36:52,384 --> 00:36:53,559 That's correct. 806 00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:54,995 You committed this murder alone. 807 00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:57,737 You, not Professor Nasser, plunged that knife 808 00:36:57,737 --> 00:37:00,261 into Alpert's chest. - Yes. 809 00:37:00,261 --> 00:37:01,915 It was just me. 810 00:37:01,915 --> 00:37:05,701 And she never told you to kill Alpert ever. Correct? 811 00:37:05,701 --> 00:37:06,963 Like I said, she suggested that-- 812 00:37:06,963 --> 00:37:09,879 But she never told you. 813 00:37:09,879 --> 00:37:12,055 - Correct. - Nothing further. 814 00:37:14,319 --> 00:37:16,582 So, to be clear, she suggested 815 00:37:16,582 --> 00:37:19,541 that you kill Alpert, and then she gave you a knife. 816 00:37:29,638 --> 00:37:31,031 Yes. 817 00:37:34,643 --> 00:37:36,732 Nothing further. People rest. 818 00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:43,130 The Jewish elite will stop at nothing 819 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:45,306 in order to silence me. - Why? 820 00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:46,960 They're terrified of Middle Easterners 821 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,614 with a platform and a brain. 822 00:37:48,614 --> 00:37:50,833 So they'll do anything they can 823 00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:53,271 to squelch free debate and expression, 824 00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:56,012 including these baseless charges. 825 00:37:56,012 --> 00:37:57,449 Professor Nasser, you believe 826 00:37:57,449 --> 00:37:59,059 this is a political prosecution? 827 00:37:59,059 --> 00:38:01,148 That's for the jury to decide. 828 00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:04,456 The defendant's beliefs about this case are irrelevant. 829 00:38:04,456 --> 00:38:05,935 See? 830 00:38:05,935 --> 00:38:07,937 I can't even speak my truth in this courtroom. 831 00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:09,852 Sustained. Next question. 832 00:38:09,852 --> 00:38:12,594 Did you conspire with Cam Lawson? 833 00:38:12,594 --> 00:38:15,118 - I did not. - Give him a knife? 834 00:38:15,118 --> 00:38:16,729 Tell him to kill Nathan Alpert? 835 00:38:16,729 --> 00:38:18,165 Absolutely not. 836 00:38:18,165 --> 00:38:19,688 Thank you. 837 00:38:22,865 --> 00:38:25,999 You use people-- 838 00:38:25,999 --> 00:38:29,611 young, malleable students-- to fight your holy war. 839 00:38:29,611 --> 00:38:31,134 That's a lie. 840 00:38:31,134 --> 00:38:33,746 A number of your students have been cited 841 00:38:33,746 --> 00:38:36,836 for tearing down posters of Israeli hostages, 842 00:38:36,836 --> 00:38:39,578 for engaging in hateful, anti-Semitic speech. 843 00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:41,754 Two of them even threatened to hurt Jewish students, 844 00:38:41,754 --> 00:38:42,929 as they left the campus Hillel House-- 845 00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:44,713 I have no knowledge of this. 846 00:38:44,713 --> 00:38:47,150 None. 847 00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:50,066 Look, my lectures are emotional 848 00:38:50,066 --> 00:38:53,243 and convincing based on facts. 849 00:38:53,243 --> 00:38:55,115 If students decide to take action 850 00:38:55,115 --> 00:38:56,682 based on these facts, based on 851 00:38:56,682 --> 00:38:59,032 their own moral constitutions, 852 00:38:59,032 --> 00:39:01,208 there's nothing I can do. 853 00:39:01,208 --> 00:39:04,559 You directed Cam Lawson to kill Nathan Alpert. 854 00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:06,082 You gave him a knife. 855 00:39:06,082 --> 00:39:07,432 You told him where Alpert would be that night. 856 00:39:07,432 --> 00:39:08,911 That's not true. 857 00:39:08,911 --> 00:39:10,435 And when he was done carrying out your wishes, 858 00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:13,176 he came to your home where you comforted him. 859 00:39:13,176 --> 00:39:15,396 He told me what he had done after the fact. 860 00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:16,528 And I was proud of him. 861 00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:27,800 Proud? 862 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,542 That a young man killed a college president? 863 00:39:34,284 --> 00:39:35,851 Yes. 864 00:39:42,597 --> 00:39:43,903 Nothing further. 865 00:39:53,347 --> 00:39:55,262 Please rise. 866 00:40:11,321 --> 00:40:13,933 In the matter of People v. Kendra Nasser, 867 00:40:13,933 --> 00:40:16,849 has the jury reached a verdict? 868 00:40:18,851 --> 00:40:21,419 Yes, we have, Your Honor. 869 00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:23,638 How do you find? 870 00:40:23,638 --> 00:40:25,423 We find the defendant... 871 00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:26,772 not guilty. 872 00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:35,955 I'd like to thank the jury for your service. 873 00:40:35,955 --> 00:40:38,523 You are now excused. 874 00:40:51,361 --> 00:40:53,102 My son is going to prison for 10 years, 875 00:40:53,102 --> 00:40:55,496 and that woman walks free? 876 00:40:59,369 --> 00:41:01,546 Did you convince him to kill President Alpert? 877 00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:03,373 - Miss Nasser, what is-- - Miss Nasser. 878 00:41:03,373 --> 00:41:05,027 Do you plan to return to Hudson University? 879 00:41:05,027 --> 00:41:07,160 No comment. 880 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,683 Did your lectures encourage violence? 881 00:41:08,683 --> 00:41:09,684 No comment. 882 00:41:09,684 --> 00:41:13,253 Miss Nasser. 883 00:41:13,253 --> 00:41:15,516 At the very least, it's over. 884 00:41:17,083 --> 00:41:19,607 It'll never be over. 885 00:41:19,607 --> 00:41:20,608 That's the problem. 886 00:41:22,088 --> 00:41:23,524 Oh, what? You think it's OK to kill innocent Jews? 887 00:41:23,524 --> 00:41:26,484 Go to hell!