1 00:00:01,123 --> 00:00:02,864 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:02,925 --> 00:00:06,839 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,895 --> 00:00:08,704 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,764 --> 00:00:11,574 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,633 --> 00:00:13,271 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,336 --> 00:00:16,043 (SPEAKING HINDI) 7 00:00:16,872 --> 00:00:18,045 (HORNS HONKING) MAN: Come on, let's go! 8 00:00:18,108 --> 00:00:20,019 Near corner, far corner? 9 00:00:20,977 --> 00:00:23,423 Okay, I said near corner or far... 10 00:00:24,881 --> 00:00:26,053 Oh. my... 11 00:00:26,950 --> 00:00:29,692 CSU says it's a single stab wound to the guy's abdomen. 12 00:00:29,753 --> 00:00:30,754 We know who he is? 13 00:00:30,820 --> 00:00:34,097 No wallet, no ID. But judging how he's dressed, 14 00:00:34,791 --> 00:00:36,828 I'd say he ain't a homeboy. 15 00:00:39,462 --> 00:00:41,601 I want a shot of the laundry mark. 16 00:00:41,664 --> 00:00:42,768 MAN: Right. 17 00:00:44,334 --> 00:00:47,042 Rite Aid receipt from a couple of days ago. 18 00:00:47,103 --> 00:00:49,014 2211, Broadway. 19 00:00:49,072 --> 00:00:50,210 It's near 96th Street. 20 00:00:50,273 --> 00:00:51,753 What do you think? Stick and pick? 21 00:00:51,809 --> 00:00:52,947 Either that, or he figured out 22 00:00:53,010 --> 00:00:54,580 a hell of a way to beat a cab fare. 23 00:00:54,645 --> 00:00:56,454 What about the cabbie? OFFICER: Harish Singh. 24 00:00:56,514 --> 00:00:58,460 Says the pickup was on 42nd near Lex 25 00:00:58,516 --> 00:01:00,826 and that another guy helped the old man in. 26 00:01:00,885 --> 00:01:02,421 Thinks that it was that guy who was the one 27 00:01:02,486 --> 00:01:03,863 who gave him the address where to go. 28 00:01:03,921 --> 00:01:05,628 Where's he? Where else? 29 00:01:05,856 --> 00:01:07,494 Talking on the cell phone. 30 00:01:07,558 --> 00:01:08,593 Thanks. 31 00:01:08,659 --> 00:01:10,661 (SPEAKING HINDI) 32 00:01:10,728 --> 00:01:12,469 Say goodbye, Mr. Singh. 33 00:01:12,530 --> 00:01:14,237 I was just trying to get another vehicle. 34 00:01:14,298 --> 00:01:15,402 My whole shift is lost. 35 00:01:15,466 --> 00:01:17,275 Yeah, well, it turns out it wasn't his day either. 36 00:01:17,334 --> 00:01:19,746 Tell us about the guy who helped the old man. 37 00:01:19,804 --> 00:01:21,283 He was black. 38 00:01:22,406 --> 00:01:24,819 Young, wearing a green baseball cap. 39 00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:27,083 Some... Some blue running clothes. 40 00:01:27,145 --> 00:01:28,488 He say anything about your passenger? 41 00:01:28,547 --> 00:01:31,357 No. Just said to go to 125th and Amsterdam. 42 00:01:31,416 --> 00:01:33,327 Did he touch the door handle? 43 00:01:33,385 --> 00:01:34,420 I don't know. 44 00:01:34,486 --> 00:01:35,521 The whole ride up here, you didn't hear 45 00:01:35,587 --> 00:01:37,464 your passenger say anything? 46 00:01:37,522 --> 00:01:39,729 I was talking to my broker. 47 00:01:40,392 --> 00:01:41,894 All right, give us your home number. 48 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:43,803 And don't forget your cell phone. 49 00:01:45,330 --> 00:01:48,174 Guy's bleeding to death in his back seat, he's making day trades. 50 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:50,179 Gotta run with the bull. 51 00:02:40,020 --> 00:02:42,967 The Rite Aid computer says the receipt was for toilet paper, 52 00:02:43,056 --> 00:02:45,832 toothpaste and some cough medicine. Paid for in cash. 53 00:02:45,893 --> 00:02:47,873 Purchase like that, the guy probably lives nearby. 54 00:02:47,928 --> 00:02:49,669 Big neighborhood. 55 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:51,471 Dry cleaner's mark on his shirt tail. 56 00:02:51,531 --> 00:02:54,102 There's gotta be 20, 30 dry cleaners in that area. 57 00:02:54,167 --> 00:02:55,942 The guy's wearing a Paul Stuart suit. 58 00:02:56,003 --> 00:02:58,210 I'm betting he goes to the best. 59 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,815 Well, canvass the cleaners, and work your way out from the Rite Aid. 60 00:03:04,111 --> 00:03:07,321 I'm not sure. But this guy don't look so good. 61 00:03:07,548 --> 00:03:10,085 How about this? You recognize that? 62 00:03:10,151 --> 00:03:12,597 Yes. That's ours. 63 00:03:12,654 --> 00:03:15,066 Last four digit customer phone number. 64 00:03:15,123 --> 00:03:17,967 Have you got a name to go with the number? 65 00:03:19,494 --> 00:03:22,941 Mr. Grimaldi lived alone, about five, six years now. 66 00:03:23,831 --> 00:03:25,833 His wife. Real sweet lady. 67 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:27,311 She died a few years back. 68 00:03:27,368 --> 00:03:29,314 What she was doing with the guy is anybody's guess. 69 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:30,405 Why do you say that? 70 00:03:30,471 --> 00:03:32,747 Grimaldi was tough. Real old school. 71 00:03:32,807 --> 00:03:34,844 Not a guy with too many nice words to say. 72 00:03:34,909 --> 00:03:36,513 And parting with a dollar wasn't his thing either. 73 00:03:36,577 --> 00:03:37,612 He would have fought back. 74 00:03:37,679 --> 00:03:39,387 That's probably what got him killed. 75 00:03:39,448 --> 00:03:40,756 Any other next of kin? 76 00:03:40,816 --> 00:03:41,851 Son and daughter, 77 00:03:41,917 --> 00:03:44,022 but they don't come around much since the mother died. 78 00:03:44,086 --> 00:03:45,861 He lives in Philly with his wife and kid, I think. 79 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:47,264 And her I'm not too sure about. 80 00:03:47,323 --> 00:03:49,633 See if you can get their numbers from the managing agent. 81 00:03:49,692 --> 00:03:50,727 Sure. 82 00:03:50,793 --> 00:03:52,136 Any idea what he did for a living? 83 00:03:52,194 --> 00:03:55,403 Retired. But I think he was an insurance salesman once. 84 00:03:55,464 --> 00:03:57,137 He's in good hands now. 85 00:03:57,199 --> 00:04:00,305 Hey, cabbie said he picked him up on 42nd and Lex, right? 86 00:04:00,369 --> 00:04:02,940 Yeah. Bank account on Lexington Avenue. 87 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:07,612 Mr. Grimaldi was a customer here for over 30 years. 88 00:04:07,676 --> 00:04:09,349 He used to come in all the time. 89 00:04:09,411 --> 00:04:10,856 Only worked a few blocks from here. 90 00:04:10,913 --> 00:04:12,086 Where was that? 91 00:04:12,148 --> 00:04:14,253 All-Atlantic Insurance. 92 00:04:14,317 --> 00:04:15,819 It's a shame. 93 00:04:16,152 --> 00:04:17,460 He was a real character. 94 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,897 In what way? 95 00:04:18,955 --> 00:04:22,528 He's what you'd call an old-fashioned American success story. 96 00:04:22,592 --> 00:04:24,003 Immigrated from Italy. 97 00:04:24,060 --> 00:04:26,540 Worked 40 years for the same company. 98 00:04:26,596 --> 00:04:28,337 A real dying breed. 99 00:04:28,498 --> 00:04:31,604 Do know if maybe he cashed a check that day? 100 00:04:31,668 --> 00:04:34,649 Or maybe somebody saw him with a large amount of money? 101 00:04:34,704 --> 00:04:37,378 I checked our security tapes after you called. 102 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,750 Mr. Grimaldi didn't use a teller that day. 103 00:04:39,809 --> 00:04:41,584 He went straight to the vault area. 104 00:04:41,644 --> 00:04:42,952 Safe deposit box. 105 00:04:43,013 --> 00:04:45,357 He opened one about 10 years ago. 106 00:04:47,318 --> 00:04:49,320 Doesn't seem to have used it much. 107 00:04:49,387 --> 00:04:51,230 Any chance we could take a look inside? 108 00:04:51,889 --> 00:04:53,960 You'd just be wasting your time. 109 00:04:54,025 --> 00:04:56,631 He closed it that day. It's empty. 110 00:04:57,595 --> 00:04:59,939 Here are some shots from the bank's video tape. 111 00:04:59,997 --> 00:05:01,499 This is him coming in. 112 00:05:01,565 --> 00:05:02,635 Briefcase. 113 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:05,146 Then 14 minutes later, he leaves. 114 00:05:05,202 --> 00:05:07,011 Still has his briefcase. 115 00:05:07,104 --> 00:05:09,675 Now, here's one from the ATM outside. 116 00:05:10,274 --> 00:05:11,912 He's still alone. 117 00:05:12,743 --> 00:05:14,279 Not for long. 118 00:05:14,645 --> 00:05:16,215 Our good Samaritan. 119 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:18,021 Latent just faxed over the list of prints 120 00:05:18,082 --> 00:05:19,357 they lifted from the cab door. 121 00:05:19,418 --> 00:05:20,522 BRISCOE: What'd they get? 122 00:05:20,585 --> 00:05:21,620 Nineteen partials. 123 00:05:21,686 --> 00:05:23,131 Anything interesting? 124 00:05:23,188 --> 00:05:24,758 Two forefingers and a thumb. 125 00:05:24,823 --> 00:05:26,530 "Doug Panero. Male, white." 126 00:05:26,591 --> 00:05:28,434 "Nineteen. Drug sale." 127 00:05:28,493 --> 00:05:30,495 "Anthony Weathers. Male, black." 128 00:05:30,562 --> 00:05:32,872 " Forty-two. Turnstile jump" 129 00:05:32,931 --> 00:05:36,276 "And Roland Dell. Male black. Twenty-four." 130 00:05:38,637 --> 00:05:40,344 "On parole for knifepoint robbery." 131 00:05:40,405 --> 00:05:42,282 Talk to his P.O. And let's pick him up 132 00:05:42,340 --> 00:05:44,946 before he decides to help anyone else. 133 00:05:47,679 --> 00:05:48,851 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 134 00:05:48,914 --> 00:05:49,984 (POLICE RADIO CHATTERING) 135 00:05:52,384 --> 00:05:54,558 Hey. How you doing? Is your mom and dad here? 136 00:05:54,620 --> 00:05:55,758 Teddy, who is it? 137 00:05:55,822 --> 00:05:57,358 New York City detectives. 138 00:05:57,423 --> 00:05:58,493 What's this about? 139 00:05:58,558 --> 00:06:00,299 Is Roland Dell here? Get back in there, Teddy. 140 00:06:00,359 --> 00:06:01,838 We're just sitting down to dinner. 141 00:06:01,894 --> 00:06:03,840 Dinner's gonna have to wait. 142 00:06:03,896 --> 00:06:05,603 Police! Freeze! 143 00:06:06,132 --> 00:06:07,440 ED: Freeze! 144 00:06:09,735 --> 00:06:12,181 Rock, paper, scissors, gun. 145 00:06:15,308 --> 00:06:17,914 We've got your prints on the cab door. 146 00:06:17,977 --> 00:06:20,457 On a city cab? Big deal. 147 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:22,549 ED: We also have this. 148 00:06:22,615 --> 00:06:23,685 Who's that? 149 00:06:23,749 --> 00:06:25,888 You. Right down to the green ball cap 150 00:06:25,952 --> 00:06:27,523 we found in your closet. 151 00:06:27,588 --> 00:06:28,965 Oh, you think this lid's green? 152 00:06:29,022 --> 00:06:31,593 'Cause I'd be willing to bet that my Legal Aid 153 00:06:31,658 --> 00:06:33,228 says it could be almost any color. 154 00:06:33,293 --> 00:06:36,467 If it isn't you, why'd you go up-tempo when you saw us, Roland? 155 00:06:36,697 --> 00:06:40,372 What would you do you saw a brother come after you with a gun? 156 00:06:40,434 --> 00:06:41,879 Man, you guys got nothing. 157 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:44,006 'Cause if you did, you wouldn't be looking at me 158 00:06:44,071 --> 00:06:45,709 for my statement. 159 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:51,149 Yeah, I think you better get me my Legal Aid. 160 00:06:51,211 --> 00:06:54,215 Yeah. He did so good for you last time, right? 161 00:07:01,156 --> 00:07:02,897 Anything on the apartment search? 162 00:07:02,957 --> 00:07:04,561 No briefcase, no knife. 163 00:07:04,626 --> 00:07:07,197 Bring in some of the witnesses from the ATM machines 164 00:07:07,262 --> 00:07:08,764 and see if someone can put him at the scene. 165 00:07:08,830 --> 00:07:10,104 You got it. 166 00:07:10,165 --> 00:07:11,803 I hear you went in hot pursuit today. 167 00:07:11,866 --> 00:07:13,709 Yeah. He tried to climb out the window. 168 00:07:13,835 --> 00:07:15,280 I'm surprised you didn't push him. 169 00:07:16,104 --> 00:07:17,344 Me, too. 170 00:07:20,041 --> 00:07:21,247 (DOOR CLOSES) 171 00:07:21,776 --> 00:07:25,417 VAN BUREN: Just tell us if you see anyone who looks familiar. 172 00:07:25,980 --> 00:07:27,960 It's hard to say. 173 00:07:29,884 --> 00:07:31,989 I think number four. 174 00:07:32,487 --> 00:07:34,991 And where do you recognize him from? 175 00:07:36,192 --> 00:07:38,502 I think he was the man I saw helping 176 00:07:38,561 --> 00:07:40,768 the older man get into the cab. 177 00:07:40,829 --> 00:07:42,308 Are you sure? 178 00:07:44,733 --> 00:07:47,441 Best I can say is I think so. 179 00:07:47,736 --> 00:07:50,012 Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Drummond. 180 00:07:52,942 --> 00:07:55,445 I think my client should be released immediately. 181 00:07:55,511 --> 00:07:58,151 That's for the D.A. handling the case. 182 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,623 What case? 183 00:08:02,618 --> 00:08:05,462 His lawyer's right. I can't indict on a "think so." 184 00:08:05,521 --> 00:08:08,059 Well, what about the prints and the ATM photos? 185 00:08:08,124 --> 00:08:09,501 All good circumstantial evidence, 186 00:08:09,559 --> 00:08:10,833 if we had an ID. (CELL PHONE RINGING) 187 00:08:10,894 --> 00:08:11,895 Green. 188 00:08:11,962 --> 00:08:14,533 So what? You just gonna kick this guy loose? 189 00:08:14,598 --> 00:08:16,703 Lennie, I called his parole officer. 190 00:08:16,766 --> 00:08:18,973 She dropped a violation on him based on your arrest. 191 00:08:19,035 --> 00:08:21,106 He is not going anywhere. 192 00:08:21,171 --> 00:08:24,812 That was the M.E. Roland Dell may only be half our problem. 193 00:08:25,275 --> 00:08:28,779 Grimaldi had a six-inch stab wound to his abdomen. 194 00:08:29,913 --> 00:08:32,450 He also had a bullet wound under his left armpit. 195 00:08:32,515 --> 00:08:34,426 This guy was stabbed and shot? 196 00:08:34,484 --> 00:08:36,122 New York's a tough town. 197 00:08:36,186 --> 00:08:37,893 How'd CSU miss it? 198 00:08:38,088 --> 00:08:39,431 There was no exit wound. 199 00:08:39,489 --> 00:08:42,300 And the entrance was hidden under the hair in the armpit. 200 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,203 I only found it when IX-rayed the body. 201 00:08:44,262 --> 00:08:45,502 Well, could this guy have been shot 202 00:08:45,563 --> 00:08:46,598 and made it to the cab? 203 00:08:46,664 --> 00:08:47,836 Hey, Reagan never knew he was shot 204 00:08:47,898 --> 00:08:50,071 till he got to Bethesda Naval. 205 00:08:50,334 --> 00:08:52,712 So what killed him? The knife or the gun? 206 00:08:52,770 --> 00:08:54,306 Take your pick. 207 00:08:54,372 --> 00:08:56,443 Roland Dell stabbed a dead man. 208 00:08:56,507 --> 00:08:58,248 Couldn't even get that right. 209 00:09:01,245 --> 00:09:03,851 Video has him leaving the bank at 2:34. 210 00:09:03,914 --> 00:09:06,588 Here, he is passing the ATM at 2:37. 211 00:09:06,651 --> 00:09:08,358 Three minutes to walk 15 feet? 212 00:09:08,419 --> 00:09:10,763 Maybe he stopped to tie his shoe. 213 00:09:10,821 --> 00:09:13,165 Briefcase is in his right hand now. 214 00:09:13,224 --> 00:09:15,728 Well, it was in his left hand when he left the bank. 215 00:09:15,794 --> 00:09:17,432 Maybe he switched when he got shot. 216 00:09:17,496 --> 00:09:19,032 What do we have from ballistics? 217 00:09:19,097 --> 00:09:20,576 They're having trouble IDing the round. 218 00:09:20,632 --> 00:09:21,804 Seems like a lot of folks 219 00:09:21,867 --> 00:09:22,971 were waiting for this man 220 00:09:23,035 --> 00:09:24,514 to come out of that bank. 221 00:09:24,569 --> 00:09:27,379 Wonder what they knew about the deposit box that we don't. 222 00:09:27,439 --> 00:09:30,147 Grimaldi's kids just got in to ID the body. 223 00:09:30,208 --> 00:09:32,188 Maybe they have an idea. 224 00:09:35,714 --> 00:09:38,320 Our father is shot and stabbed on one of the busiest streets 225 00:09:38,383 --> 00:09:40,795 in Manhattan, and no one even noticed? 226 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,993 The cabbie was on a cell phone. 227 00:09:43,055 --> 00:09:45,262 Plus, midtown and it was raining. 228 00:09:45,324 --> 00:09:46,894 But you don't believe this was random? 229 00:09:47,593 --> 00:09:49,903 We think the perpetrators were after whatever 230 00:09:49,963 --> 00:09:52,773 your father kept in that safe deposit box. 231 00:09:53,433 --> 00:09:56,812 I didn't even know he had a safe deposit box. Did you? 232 00:09:56,969 --> 00:09:57,970 No. 233 00:09:58,071 --> 00:10:00,517 Well, was he the kind of person that kept a lot of cash on him? 234 00:10:00,573 --> 00:10:02,883 Our father never discussed his finances. 235 00:10:02,942 --> 00:10:04,649 He lived on a pension. 236 00:10:04,711 --> 00:10:06,315 Is there any kind of inheritance? 237 00:10:06,379 --> 00:10:08,655 Maybe from your mother? Some stocks? 238 00:10:08,715 --> 00:10:10,194 Anything somebody might have known about? 239 00:10:10,249 --> 00:10:11,626 I don't think so. 240 00:10:11,684 --> 00:10:13,254 Was there anyone he was close to? 241 00:10:13,319 --> 00:10:15,356 JORDAN: Most of our father's friends have passed away. 242 00:10:15,421 --> 00:10:16,422 What about Gail? 243 00:10:16,589 --> 00:10:18,694 Gail? Gail Bartlet. 244 00:10:19,325 --> 00:10:22,830 Since our mom died, she's been Dad's friend. 245 00:10:22,896 --> 00:10:25,240 He was with her before Mom died. 246 00:10:25,699 --> 00:10:28,179 Jordan said that? I'm surprised. 247 00:10:28,669 --> 00:10:31,343 Their mother was very ill for several years before she died, 248 00:10:31,405 --> 00:10:33,316 and Peter and I became friends. 249 00:10:33,741 --> 00:10:35,379 His kids were under the impression 250 00:10:35,442 --> 00:10:37,353 that he might have confided in you. 251 00:10:37,444 --> 00:10:39,822 Peter rarely spoke to either of his children. 252 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,291 He wasn't what you would call 253 00:10:41,348 --> 00:10:43,453 an intimate type of man, Detective. 254 00:10:43,517 --> 00:10:47,590 He... He rarely confided in anyone, even me. 255 00:10:47,955 --> 00:10:53,769 But there was a certain charm about Peter, an energy. 256 00:10:54,763 --> 00:10:56,470 Uh, can you think of any reason 257 00:10:56,531 --> 00:10:58,511 why somebody would have wanted to hurt him? 258 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:03,204 A few weeks ago, actually, 259 00:11:03,571 --> 00:11:05,244 the doorbell rang. 260 00:11:05,507 --> 00:11:09,114 Peter answered it and I heard him yelling. 261 00:11:09,344 --> 00:11:11,051 Did you see who he was yelling at? 262 00:11:11,112 --> 00:11:14,616 No. But when he came back into the room, I... 263 00:11:14,682 --> 00:11:17,959 He was very angry, and I asked him what was wrong, 264 00:11:18,019 --> 00:11:19,862 and he... he said the doorman 265 00:11:19,921 --> 00:11:22,197 had let someone up he wasn't supposed to. 266 00:11:22,657 --> 00:11:24,227 He say who? No. 267 00:11:24,926 --> 00:11:28,272 But he was very upset about it, for a few days, actually. 268 00:11:29,198 --> 00:11:30,506 A witness says you let someone up 269 00:11:30,566 --> 00:11:32,568 to the Grimaldi place a few weeks ago. 270 00:11:32,635 --> 00:11:34,171 Somebody he got pretty upset about. 271 00:11:34,236 --> 00:11:35,840 I never let anybody up there. I told him that. 272 00:11:35,905 --> 00:11:36,975 You think it did me any good? 273 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:38,450 Well, you do know who that person was? 274 00:11:38,507 --> 00:11:41,579 If it's the time I'm thinking about, it was a process server. 275 00:11:41,644 --> 00:11:43,123 Grimaldi had legal problems? 276 00:11:43,179 --> 00:11:44,214 Thanks. 277 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,556 I guess. This guy came around a few times. 278 00:11:46,615 --> 00:11:48,526 He must've finally snuck up while I was doing something else. 279 00:11:48,784 --> 00:11:50,127 You know who he worked for? 280 00:11:50,186 --> 00:11:54,134 All I know is Grimaldi tore me a new one for letting the guy in. 281 00:11:54,690 --> 00:11:57,398 I ran Grimaldi's name through the court's computer. 282 00:11:57,460 --> 00:11:59,736 There were no cases with his name in a caption, 283 00:11:59,795 --> 00:12:01,742 so he isn't a plaintiff or a defendant. 284 00:12:01,798 --> 00:12:02,970 The kids and the girlfriend 285 00:12:03,033 --> 00:12:05,309 didn't know anything about a lawsuit either. 286 00:12:05,368 --> 00:12:08,474 He could have been involved in litigation in some other way. 287 00:12:08,538 --> 00:12:10,211 He worked for an insurance company, right? 288 00:12:10,273 --> 00:12:12,253 He's been retired for over 10 years. 289 00:12:12,309 --> 00:12:13,913 MAN: Here you go. I have an Aunt Opal. 290 00:12:13,977 --> 00:12:15,217 Slipped in a supermarket once. 291 00:12:15,278 --> 00:12:17,849 Took her 12 years to settle her case. 292 00:12:21,585 --> 00:12:24,930 I was surprised when my assistant gave me your message. 293 00:12:24,988 --> 00:12:28,162 Peter Grimaldi was a kind of dinosaur around here. 294 00:12:28,225 --> 00:12:30,227 Worked for the company for over 40 years. 295 00:12:30,293 --> 00:12:31,636 We were wondering if he was part 296 00:12:31,695 --> 00:12:33,538 of any lawsuit involving All-Atlantic. 297 00:12:34,131 --> 00:12:36,476 I had litigation pull our claims. 298 00:12:36,534 --> 00:12:38,514 I'm afraid there's nothing here. 299 00:12:38,569 --> 00:12:41,914 Which is not surprising, given Peter sold mostly life insurance. 300 00:12:41,973 --> 00:12:44,044 Then he had a broker's license, right? 301 00:12:44,141 --> 00:12:45,711 Of course. Why? 302 00:12:46,110 --> 00:12:48,920 Any chance he was still doing business on the side? 303 00:12:50,148 --> 00:12:51,559 Not with us. 304 00:12:52,416 --> 00:12:56,262 Peter Grimaldi's license to sell insurance lapsed 11 years ago. 305 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,994 The last thing I see is a letter from someone 306 00:12:59,056 --> 00:13:01,093 requesting a business address for him, 307 00:13:01,225 --> 00:13:02,499 and that was three years ago. 308 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:03,630 A letter about what? 309 00:13:03,694 --> 00:13:05,332 Oh, it's pretty hard to follow. 310 00:13:05,396 --> 00:13:06,773 She claimed this guy Grimaldi 311 00:13:06,831 --> 00:13:09,005 sold her family some insurance a long time ago, 312 00:13:09,067 --> 00:13:10,341 then refused to pay. 313 00:13:10,402 --> 00:13:11,881 But you can see right there, 314 00:13:11,937 --> 00:13:14,577 she was talking about a guy named Pietro Grimaldi, 315 00:13:14,806 --> 00:13:16,410 not Peter. 316 00:13:16,475 --> 00:13:18,978 Pietro is Peter in Italian. 317 00:13:20,345 --> 00:13:21,790 What happened to her complaint? 318 00:13:21,847 --> 00:13:23,019 Nothing. 319 00:13:23,081 --> 00:13:26,119 Like I said, we weren't sure she had the right guy. 320 00:13:26,185 --> 00:13:28,392 Dora Wolkoff. Bronx, New York. 321 00:13:29,054 --> 00:13:31,398 Ciao. That means goodbye. 322 00:13:33,392 --> 00:13:36,305 Well, if you came to arrest her, you're a year too late. 323 00:13:36,361 --> 00:13:38,307 Dora passed last December. 324 00:13:38,363 --> 00:13:40,104 Happens all the time around here. 325 00:13:40,165 --> 00:13:41,667 Yeah, it happens where we work, too. 326 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:44,544 She ever mention any legal problems she was having? 327 00:13:44,604 --> 00:13:46,345 Like what sort of problems? 328 00:13:46,406 --> 00:13:48,909 You know, like, maybe insurance problems. 329 00:13:48,975 --> 00:13:50,977 You guys are here about Dora's insurance? 330 00:13:51,044 --> 00:13:52,717 Actually, we're investigating the death 331 00:13:52,779 --> 00:13:55,020 of a man named Peter Grimaldi. 332 00:13:55,648 --> 00:13:57,423 Pietro Grimaldi? 333 00:13:57,483 --> 00:13:58,826 You mean to tell me he was a real person? 334 00:13:59,319 --> 00:14:00,354 What do you know about him? 335 00:14:00,420 --> 00:14:02,696 Dora said this Pietro Grimaldi 336 00:14:02,755 --> 00:14:04,393 sold her father some life insurance. 337 00:14:04,457 --> 00:14:07,063 Used to say she was gonna walk out of here a rich lady. 338 00:14:07,126 --> 00:14:08,662 So, he was real, huh? 339 00:14:08,728 --> 00:14:11,038 I guess what comes around goes around, though. 340 00:14:11,097 --> 00:14:12,371 Why do you say that? 341 00:14:12,732 --> 00:14:14,905 Well, Dora said this guy wouldn't pay. 342 00:14:14,968 --> 00:14:16,971 Said he'd done this thing to a bunch of other people. 343 00:14:17,037 --> 00:14:18,812 You know, back in the old country. 344 00:14:18,872 --> 00:14:21,216 ED: She ever mention any other names? 345 00:14:21,275 --> 00:14:23,312 (SIGHS) I don't remember. 346 00:14:23,377 --> 00:14:25,050 But I bet her daughter would know. 347 00:14:25,112 --> 00:14:27,251 Evie used to write letters for them all the time. 348 00:14:27,881 --> 00:14:29,724 So, you guys finally going to get him 349 00:14:29,783 --> 00:14:32,059 to pay the money he owes me, or what? 350 00:14:32,119 --> 00:14:34,030 Pietro Grimaldi was found murdered 351 00:14:34,088 --> 00:14:35,931 a few days ago, Miss Wolkoff. 352 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:37,799 (LAUGHS) 353 00:14:38,792 --> 00:14:40,203 Was he rich? 354 00:14:40,294 --> 00:14:42,103 Why do you ask that? 355 00:14:42,162 --> 00:14:45,075 Pietro Grimaldi was an insurance salesman, Detective. 356 00:14:45,132 --> 00:14:47,806 During the war, he traveled through Poland and Czechoslovakia 357 00:14:47,868 --> 00:14:51,043 selling life insurance policies to Jewish families. 358 00:14:51,106 --> 00:14:52,380 Told them their money would be safe. 359 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,684 Said he worked for an Italian company, Federali Insurance. 360 00:14:56,745 --> 00:14:58,725 Isn't that right, Hymie? 361 00:14:58,780 --> 00:15:00,555 Yeah. (LAUGHS) 362 00:15:00,615 --> 00:15:03,357 He sold a policy to Mr. Radzanower's family, too. 363 00:15:03,418 --> 00:15:05,159 And there's others. 364 00:15:05,453 --> 00:15:08,457 Then the war ends, he refused to pay. 365 00:15:09,290 --> 00:15:13,204 Pietro Grimaldi took my grandfather's last dollar 366 00:15:13,795 --> 00:15:16,139 and left my mother with nothing. 367 00:15:16,698 --> 00:15:21,078 Wolkoff, Radzanower, Getzler, Ribet, Frank. 368 00:15:22,037 --> 00:15:24,985 All Holocaust survivors or the families of Holocaust victims 369 00:15:25,041 --> 00:15:28,614 who purchased life insurance policies from Pietro Grimaldi. 370 00:15:28,677 --> 00:15:30,782 All of them stiffed by him. 371 00:15:31,614 --> 00:15:33,992 And all with a motive to kill him. 372 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:35,285 How many? 373 00:15:35,351 --> 00:15:37,194 VAN BUREN: Daughter gave us 59 names. 374 00:15:37,253 --> 00:15:39,233 But she says there could be thousands. 375 00:15:39,288 --> 00:15:43,202 Apparently Grimaldi used the Nazis as a marketing tool, 376 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:46,301 while figuring he'd never have to pay off on the policies. 377 00:15:46,362 --> 00:15:48,399 I have an appointment with the Italian Consulate. 378 00:15:48,464 --> 00:15:51,104 We'll see what they know about Federali Insurance. 379 00:15:51,867 --> 00:15:53,744 Just when you thought that there weren't any more ways 380 00:15:53,803 --> 00:15:56,910 to violate these people, an insurance scam. 381 00:16:00,744 --> 00:16:03,418 The Italian government subpoenaed Grimaldi. 382 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,756 We recently started an investigation into allegations 383 00:16:05,816 --> 00:16:08,057 that certain Italian insurance companies 384 00:16:08,118 --> 00:16:12,362 sold life insurance policies to Jewish families in Eastern Europe 385 00:16:12,422 --> 00:16:15,130 during the war and then refused to pay. 386 00:16:15,192 --> 00:16:16,330 Refused why? 387 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,233 The companies claim there is no documentation 388 00:16:18,295 --> 00:16:20,138 the policies were ever issued. 389 00:16:20,197 --> 00:16:22,336 And now most of these companies don't even exist. 390 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:25,209 What about the company Grimaldi worked for in Italy, 391 00:16:25,268 --> 00:16:26,338 Federali Insurance? 392 00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:27,575 Bankrupt. 393 00:16:27,637 --> 00:16:30,983 We traced over 1,100 policies to Federali Insurance. 394 00:16:32,176 --> 00:16:33,712 But without Peter Grimaldi's testimony, 395 00:16:33,778 --> 00:16:36,088 I'm afraid the truth may never be known. 396 00:16:36,147 --> 00:16:37,251 Sounds like a pretty good motive 397 00:16:37,315 --> 00:16:38,988 to make sure he didn't testify. 398 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:40,120 Yes. 399 00:16:40,184 --> 00:16:42,755 Could I get copies of your files on Federali? 400 00:16:42,820 --> 00:16:45,994 I'd like for one of our forensic accountants to examine them. 401 00:16:47,458 --> 00:16:49,768 Aren't we just a little out of our jurisdiction? 402 00:16:49,861 --> 00:16:51,204 Maybe not. 403 00:16:52,063 --> 00:16:54,600 When Federali Insurance filed for bankruptcy, 404 00:16:54,665 --> 00:16:56,235 they listed their outstanding policies. 405 00:16:57,201 --> 00:16:59,408 Anyone from Evelyn Wolkoff's list? 406 00:16:59,470 --> 00:17:03,213 No. But there were several American policy holders. 407 00:17:05,277 --> 00:17:08,486 Who goes to Italy to buy life insurance during a war? 408 00:17:08,647 --> 00:17:09,853 No one. 409 00:17:09,915 --> 00:17:11,895 The policies were purchased at a brokerage here 410 00:17:11,950 --> 00:17:13,361 in New York. 411 00:17:14,453 --> 00:17:17,297 A brokerage in New York sold Federali's policies? 412 00:17:18,090 --> 00:17:19,933 Guess who owned the brokerage. 413 00:17:23,362 --> 00:17:24,670 All-Atlantic. 414 00:17:25,130 --> 00:17:27,167 Because guess who owned Federali. 415 00:17:28,834 --> 00:17:30,313 All-Atlantic. 416 00:17:31,437 --> 00:17:33,280 I believe I've already told your two detectives 417 00:17:33,338 --> 00:17:35,978 everything we knew about Mr. Grimaldi. 418 00:17:36,408 --> 00:17:38,286 Strange you never mentioned the fact 419 00:17:38,344 --> 00:17:40,290 All-Atlantic owned the Italian company 420 00:17:40,346 --> 00:17:42,417 Grimaldi worked for during the war. 421 00:17:42,482 --> 00:17:44,325 I don't see how that's relevant. 422 00:17:44,384 --> 00:17:46,694 As a subsidiary, All-Atlantic is liable 423 00:17:46,753 --> 00:17:48,858 for any policy written by Federali. 424 00:17:49,088 --> 00:17:51,329 JACK: You see the relevance now, Mr. Bresler? 425 00:17:51,491 --> 00:17:54,370 STEWART: We have never hidden from our obligations. 426 00:17:54,427 --> 00:17:57,431 If you have any specific policy numbers, 427 00:17:57,497 --> 00:17:59,773 we'd be happy to check our records. 428 00:17:59,966 --> 00:18:01,707 I think you know we don't. 429 00:18:02,102 --> 00:18:04,082 We're wondering if Grimaldi did. 430 00:18:04,237 --> 00:18:10,347 Look, it's possible life insurance was sold 431 00:18:10,410 --> 00:18:13,756 to someone who became a victim of the war. 432 00:18:14,081 --> 00:18:15,651 But as chairman of this company, 433 00:18:15,716 --> 00:18:18,492 I can assure you we have absolutely no knowledge 434 00:18:18,552 --> 00:18:20,759 of any such policy. 435 00:18:21,088 --> 00:18:22,999 Were you aware that the Italian government 436 00:18:23,524 --> 00:18:26,664 had just subpoenaed Peter Grimaldi shortly before he was killed? 437 00:18:26,727 --> 00:18:28,229 STEWART: Pure politics. 438 00:18:28,329 --> 00:18:29,603 We went after their banks. 439 00:18:29,663 --> 00:18:31,267 Now they'd like a go at us. 440 00:18:31,866 --> 00:18:33,311 SO YOU were aware. 441 00:18:33,367 --> 00:18:35,244 I don't think Mr. Stewart meant to imply 442 00:18:35,302 --> 00:18:38,442 that he had any specific knowledge of the subpoena. 443 00:18:38,506 --> 00:18:40,918 Only that he was aware of their investigation. 444 00:18:41,141 --> 00:18:42,848 Exactly so. 445 00:18:42,910 --> 00:18:48,190 Look, I sympathize with the frustration of someone 446 00:18:48,250 --> 00:18:51,094 who believes that he was cheated by circumstance, 447 00:18:51,153 --> 00:18:55,863 but I can't just turn this company into a deep pocket. 448 00:18:55,924 --> 00:19:00,373 We are required to verify a policy's existence before we can pay. 449 00:19:00,428 --> 00:19:02,738 And unfortunately, most of Federali's files 450 00:19:02,797 --> 00:19:05,437 disappeared when the countries they were kept in 451 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:07,502 were taken over by the communists. 452 00:19:07,569 --> 00:19:11,608 So, at this point, it would be totally irresponsible of us to pay. 453 00:19:14,976 --> 00:19:18,220 You think the company my father worked for is behind his murder? 454 00:19:18,514 --> 00:19:21,927 JACK: Just before his death, your father was subpoenaed by the Italian government 455 00:19:21,984 --> 00:19:26,490 to give testimony about certain insurance policies he sold during the war. 456 00:19:26,956 --> 00:19:28,731 Testimony that might have cost 457 00:19:28,791 --> 00:19:31,738 All-Atlantic hundreds of millions of dollars. 458 00:19:32,728 --> 00:19:34,105 Did your father ever tell you 459 00:19:34,163 --> 00:19:36,200 about his work during the war? 460 00:19:36,399 --> 00:19:38,970 Just that he was an insurance salesman. 461 00:19:39,035 --> 00:19:42,141 But did he ever tell you who he sold insurance to 462 00:19:42,205 --> 00:19:44,583 or how he came to work for All-Atlantic? 463 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,985 What are you saying? Who did my father sell insurance to? 464 00:19:49,679 --> 00:19:51,056 Holocaust victims. 465 00:19:55,452 --> 00:19:56,760 He kept a book. 466 00:19:58,589 --> 00:20:00,125 DONNA: Jordan? 467 00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:05,796 It was about 10 years ago, when he retired, he showed it to me. 468 00:20:05,863 --> 00:20:08,969 It had names, dates, different numbers. 469 00:20:09,299 --> 00:20:11,040 It was in my father's handwriting. 470 00:20:11,101 --> 00:20:13,206 Why didn't you ever tell me? 471 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:15,477 JACK: Why did he show it to you? 472 00:20:16,607 --> 00:20:18,109 He said it might be worth a lot of money one day, 473 00:20:18,175 --> 00:20:21,247 and he wanted me to know about it, that's all. 474 00:20:21,311 --> 00:20:24,588 It wasn't something I really wanted to think about. 475 00:20:25,016 --> 00:20:26,552 Do you know what happened to that book? 476 00:20:27,819 --> 00:20:28,923 No. 477 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:34,295 It seems Grimaldi kept a handwritten record 478 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,896 of the policies he sold in Eastern Europe. A book. 479 00:20:36,961 --> 00:20:39,271 We had the police search his apartment. Nothing came up. 480 00:20:39,330 --> 00:20:42,971 His son says Grimaldi showed him the book about 10 years ago. 481 00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:45,708 The same time he opened the deposit box. 482 00:20:45,937 --> 00:20:48,144 Who told Roland Dell it was there? 483 00:20:48,206 --> 00:20:50,208 Dell's not talking to us. 484 00:20:51,009 --> 00:20:53,080 Find out who talked to him. 485 00:20:56,047 --> 00:20:57,924 Briscoe's report says Dell claimed 486 00:20:57,982 --> 00:20:59,690 he had a job working for his brother-in-law. 487 00:20:59,752 --> 00:21:01,095 Doing what? 488 00:21:01,153 --> 00:21:04,100 Brother-in-law's working for a company called Burton Security. 489 00:21:05,290 --> 00:21:07,292 His parole officer said you got him a job. 490 00:21:07,393 --> 00:21:09,930 I never spoke with his parole officer. 491 00:21:09,995 --> 00:21:12,441 Your brother-in-law's facing a murder charge, Mr. Hollis. 492 00:21:12,498 --> 00:21:13,670 If you know something about that, 493 00:21:13,732 --> 00:21:17,145 you could easily find yourself facing charges as well. 494 00:21:18,704 --> 00:21:20,706 I passed his name along. To who? 495 00:21:20,773 --> 00:21:21,877 Donald Burton. 496 00:21:21,940 --> 00:21:23,317 The owner? 497 00:21:23,809 --> 00:21:25,049 What sort of company is this? 498 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:27,454 We supply security to businesses. 499 00:21:27,513 --> 00:21:29,823 So why pass Roland's name along? 500 00:21:30,115 --> 00:21:31,685 A few weeks back, Burton comes to me, 501 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:33,958 says he needs somebody with street smarts. 502 00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:36,557 Somebody who can keep his mouth shut. 503 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:38,836 Knows all about Roland. 504 00:21:40,493 --> 00:21:41,870 Look, I got a family to feed, 505 00:21:41,928 --> 00:21:45,375 but I didn't know he was going to rob nobody, I swear. 506 00:21:46,966 --> 00:21:49,003 Man gave me a job, so what? 507 00:21:49,636 --> 00:21:52,480 It's a race to the D.A.'s office, Mr. Dell. 508 00:21:52,539 --> 00:21:54,780 The one who flips fastest wins. 509 00:21:55,208 --> 00:21:56,482 How long do you think it's going to be 510 00:21:56,543 --> 00:22:00,389 before Donald Burton tells us you robbed that guy on your own? 511 00:22:04,818 --> 00:22:07,322 So what happens if he tells you what you want to know? 512 00:22:07,388 --> 00:22:10,369 I'm prepared to offer 10 years on the homicide. 513 00:22:10,825 --> 00:22:13,897 I'll also recommend his outstanding parole violation 514 00:22:13,961 --> 00:22:15,235 run concurrent with that sentence. 515 00:22:15,296 --> 00:22:16,502 That's three years for free. 516 00:22:23,738 --> 00:22:25,081 Yeah, all right. 517 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,041 Um... 518 00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:32,214 I met up with Reggie's boss, Burton, 519 00:22:32,613 --> 00:22:36,356 and he tells me he wants me to rob this old man. 520 00:22:37,218 --> 00:22:40,132 Gives me the 411 on the when and the where. 521 00:22:40,722 --> 00:22:42,463 How about the what? 522 00:22:43,191 --> 00:22:46,536 I was just supposed to take a book, that's all I know. 523 00:22:46,595 --> 00:22:48,233 So why'd you stab him? 524 00:22:48,663 --> 00:22:51,473 Man, once I snatched the case, the old man, 525 00:22:51,533 --> 00:22:53,513 he grabs my jacket, he won't let go, 526 00:22:53,568 --> 00:22:55,548 so I did what I needed to. 527 00:22:56,605 --> 00:22:57,777 Who shot him? 528 00:22:57,906 --> 00:22:59,385 Who shot who? 529 00:22:59,741 --> 00:23:02,187 CARMICHAEL: The man you stabbed was also shot. 530 00:23:02,244 --> 00:23:03,348 What? 531 00:23:03,478 --> 00:23:05,754 I might make that parole recommendation 532 00:23:05,814 --> 00:23:08,385 with a little more enthusiasm if I knew the truth. 533 00:23:08,450 --> 00:23:12,762 Look, I don't know nothing about him being shot, and that is the truth. 534 00:23:13,856 --> 00:23:15,426 Ask Burton if you don't believe me. 535 00:23:15,491 --> 00:23:16,595 He was there, too. 536 00:23:16,659 --> 00:23:19,003 He was watching the whole thing. 537 00:23:19,262 --> 00:23:22,573 Look, so I hire a couple of questionable characters once in awhile. 538 00:23:22,632 --> 00:23:23,770 Big deal. 539 00:23:23,833 --> 00:23:25,244 You want to walk around a warehouse 540 00:23:25,301 --> 00:23:27,212 in the South Bronx at 3:00 a.m.? 541 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:29,409 We're not talking about the South Bronx, Mr. Burton. 542 00:23:29,472 --> 00:23:31,577 We're talking about midtown Manhattan. 543 00:23:31,641 --> 00:23:33,814 Roland Dell gave a full statement. 544 00:23:33,876 --> 00:23:35,583 We've also subpoenaed your bank records, 545 00:23:35,645 --> 00:23:39,115 so we know you've done work for All-Atlantic Insurance. 546 00:23:40,116 --> 00:23:41,959 JACK: What about it, Mr. Burton? 547 00:23:42,018 --> 00:23:43,395 Oh, my God. 548 00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:45,925 What's on the table? 549 00:23:46,322 --> 00:23:48,303 JACK: Ten years. Same as Dell. 550 00:23:48,959 --> 00:23:50,097 GARCIA: No. 551 00:23:50,794 --> 00:23:53,365 He gave you us, we can give you more. 552 00:23:54,398 --> 00:23:55,775 More to give, more to get. 553 00:23:55,833 --> 00:23:57,312 What'd you have in mind, Counselor? 554 00:23:59,069 --> 00:24:00,139 Five. 555 00:24:00,204 --> 00:24:01,979 I'll consider seven. 556 00:24:08,145 --> 00:24:11,354 Alan Bresler, from All-Atlantic Insurance, 557 00:24:11,415 --> 00:24:14,157 he called me and told me he had a security problem. 558 00:24:14,218 --> 00:24:15,856 Security problem? 559 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,228 He's a lawyer. That's the way he put it. 560 00:24:20,058 --> 00:24:23,005 Said this guy Grimaldi used to work for them. 561 00:24:23,261 --> 00:24:26,208 Told me he had a book with a list of policy numbers. 562 00:24:26,831 --> 00:24:28,333 He tried to sell it to them, 563 00:24:28,399 --> 00:24:30,811 but Hamilton Stewart wouldn't buy. 564 00:24:33,204 --> 00:24:34,342 Where's the book now? 565 00:24:34,405 --> 00:24:36,214 I gave the briefcase to Bresler. 566 00:24:36,341 --> 00:24:37,445 Who was the shooter? 567 00:24:38,776 --> 00:24:40,380 You telling me Grimaldi was shot? 568 00:24:41,546 --> 00:24:43,651 There's the autopsy report. 569 00:24:46,451 --> 00:24:47,589 Wait. 570 00:24:48,953 --> 00:24:50,660 It had to be. 571 00:24:50,722 --> 00:24:51,996 Had to be what? 572 00:24:52,857 --> 00:24:55,202 I was sitting on the bank across the street. 573 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:58,298 When Grimaldi came out, I gave Dell the signal. 574 00:24:58,364 --> 00:25:00,105 Only soon as I did, 575 00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:02,573 Grimaldi starts up a conversation with this guy. 576 00:25:02,635 --> 00:25:03,841 Describe him. 577 00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:07,408 Uh, white. Six foot. 578 00:25:08,207 --> 00:25:10,585 Thirty-five, forty. Black hair. 579 00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:13,517 What else did you see? 580 00:25:13,879 --> 00:25:15,859 Looked like they were arguing. 581 00:25:15,915 --> 00:25:18,156 That's when he must have shot him. 582 00:25:18,217 --> 00:25:20,458 And then the old man walks away 583 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,362 and Dell does his thing. 584 00:25:25,658 --> 00:25:27,104 We believe him? Doesn't make sense, 585 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,003 he wouldn't give up the shooter. (DOOR OPENS) 586 00:25:29,062 --> 00:25:31,008 Ballistics report on Grimaldi. 587 00:25:31,064 --> 00:25:34,170 The bullet was a 9 mm manufactured in Italy. 588 00:25:34,234 --> 00:25:38,910 FBI lab determined it was fired from a 1934 Italian GAR. 589 00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:40,645 Family heirloom. 590 00:25:40,707 --> 00:25:43,187 Grimaldi's son registered a '34 GAR 591 00:25:43,243 --> 00:25:45,621 in Pennsylvania, 15 years ago. 592 00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:50,751 Is your brother here? 593 00:25:50,817 --> 00:25:52,057 Jordan. 594 00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:54,862 Jordan Grimaldi, you're under arrest 595 00:25:54,921 --> 00:25:56,366 for the murder of Peter Grimaldi. 596 00:25:56,423 --> 00:25:57,629 Jordan, what's going on? 597 00:25:57,691 --> 00:25:59,295 Put your hands behind your back. 598 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,703 DONNA: Jordan? 599 00:26:00,761 --> 00:26:02,604 Oh, my God, no! What's going on? 600 00:26:02,663 --> 00:26:05,337 It's okay. It's okay, Donna. It's gonna be all right. 601 00:26:09,203 --> 00:26:12,241 Burton told us Grimaldi tried to sell the book. 602 00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:15,546 Maybe his son thought he could cut a better deal. 603 00:26:15,643 --> 00:26:17,623 Why tell us about the book in the first place? 604 00:26:17,678 --> 00:26:19,385 It doesn't matter. 605 00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:21,287 We still have two homicides 606 00:26:21,349 --> 00:26:23,260 and one body to go around. 607 00:26:23,317 --> 00:26:25,388 The problem is, if we go after the son for the murder, 608 00:26:25,453 --> 00:26:28,730 we just about guarantee reasonable doubt for Bresler and Stewart. 609 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:32,034 We go after those two, the boy gets a walk. 610 00:26:33,861 --> 00:26:35,773 There's a third option. 611 00:26:36,164 --> 00:26:38,405 Go after the son for the murder 612 00:26:39,367 --> 00:26:42,348 and Bresler and Stewart for grand larceny. 613 00:26:43,004 --> 00:26:45,348 Since when did you become a defense attorney? 614 00:26:45,407 --> 00:26:48,047 Grimaldi was robbed to prevent those people 615 00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:50,283 from collecting on their insurance policies. 616 00:26:51,413 --> 00:26:54,417 Every policy would constitute a separate count. 617 00:26:54,783 --> 00:26:56,387 How many counts we talking about? 618 00:26:56,451 --> 00:26:58,397 Over a thousand. That we know of. 619 00:26:59,488 --> 00:27:02,958 They'll need a calculator or two to figure out the sentence. 620 00:27:07,764 --> 00:27:09,505 Your Honor, People are amending their complaint, 621 00:27:09,565 --> 00:27:10,873 dismissing the homicide counts 622 00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:12,640 and adding the charge of Grand Larceny. 623 00:27:13,636 --> 00:27:17,140 1,136 counts. Is that number correct, Miss Carmichael? 624 00:27:17,407 --> 00:27:19,648 As per the Italian Consulate, it is, Your Honor. 625 00:27:19,709 --> 00:27:21,586 Theft of insurance policy numbers? 626 00:27:21,644 --> 00:27:25,353 Judge, those policies were sold more than 50 years ago. 627 00:27:25,581 --> 00:27:27,583 Peter Grimaldi's robbery and murder 628 00:27:27,650 --> 00:27:29,493 takes care of the statute of limitations. 629 00:27:29,552 --> 00:27:33,625 I agree. But I won't remand these defendants on a larceny charge. 630 00:27:33,690 --> 00:27:35,829 Bail is set at 100,000 each. 631 00:27:35,892 --> 00:27:37,098 (GAVEL POUNDS) 632 00:27:39,228 --> 00:27:41,800 Figured you might pull a stunt like this. 633 00:27:41,865 --> 00:27:42,969 Motion to dismiss. 634 00:27:43,033 --> 00:27:44,603 Without the book, you've got nothing. 635 00:27:44,668 --> 00:27:45,874 "Jordan Grimaldi." 636 00:27:45,936 --> 00:27:48,109 Defendant is charged with first degree murder. 637 00:27:48,172 --> 00:27:50,174 Except for him, of course. 638 00:27:53,777 --> 00:27:55,120 Mr. Gold is right. 639 00:27:55,179 --> 00:27:56,954 Without the book, you have no proof sufficient 640 00:27:57,014 --> 00:27:58,015 for a conviction. 641 00:27:58,081 --> 00:27:59,754 But we do for an indictment, Your Honor. 642 00:27:59,817 --> 00:28:02,297 It's an exercise in futility, Your Honor. 643 00:28:02,352 --> 00:28:04,354 They can't produce that book. 644 00:28:04,421 --> 00:28:07,163 Do you know something we don't, Mr. Gold? 645 00:28:07,424 --> 00:28:09,631 I'll let the trial go forward, Mr. McCoy. 646 00:28:09,693 --> 00:28:13,505 But you better have the goods at the end of the People's case. 647 00:28:15,266 --> 00:28:16,506 (SIGHS) 648 00:28:16,568 --> 00:28:19,014 If they're smart, the book's already in the shredder. 649 00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:21,983 Maybe. But we still have the next best thing. 650 00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:27,551 Was it the money, Mr. Grimaldi? 651 00:28:32,016 --> 00:28:33,324 Is that why you killed your father? 652 00:28:33,385 --> 00:28:36,025 Haven't you done enough to my brother? 653 00:28:36,621 --> 00:28:37,861 JACK: I think your brother 654 00:28:38,656 --> 00:28:42,934 was in serious trouble long before we got there. 655 00:28:45,797 --> 00:28:47,606 What do you know about me? Jordan, don't talk. 656 00:28:47,699 --> 00:28:49,611 I never wanted the money. 657 00:28:49,668 --> 00:28:50,840 That was blood money. 658 00:28:50,903 --> 00:28:53,975 Then why didn't you tell someone about the book? 659 00:28:58,244 --> 00:29:00,349 It must have been difficult learning about your father. 660 00:29:00,779 --> 00:29:02,122 You don't have to answer. 661 00:29:02,314 --> 00:29:03,657 I think he does, Counselor. 662 00:29:03,716 --> 00:29:05,787 I think he needs to answer. 663 00:29:07,386 --> 00:29:09,491 My father was responsible for his own death. 664 00:29:09,555 --> 00:29:11,159 Jordan, please listen to the lawyer. 665 00:29:11,223 --> 00:29:12,702 They can't prove anything. 666 00:29:12,758 --> 00:29:14,999 You're the only one, other than your father, 667 00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:17,199 that's ever seen what's inside that book. 668 00:29:18,797 --> 00:29:21,744 Without your testimony, these men will walk. 669 00:29:22,335 --> 00:29:23,939 If that happens, I promise, 670 00:29:24,037 --> 00:29:26,881 your brother will do enough time for all of them. 671 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:28,385 What's your offer? 672 00:29:29,309 --> 00:29:32,188 Nothing. Until he takes the stand. 673 00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:35,150 Afterwards, I'll be willing to listen. 674 00:29:35,515 --> 00:29:38,553 You're asking him to testify without a plea bargain? 675 00:29:38,618 --> 00:29:40,825 I won't inquire about the shooting. 676 00:29:40,887 --> 00:29:44,198 If the defense does, he can take the Fifth Amendment. 677 00:29:46,092 --> 00:29:48,003 I'm offering you the chance 678 00:29:48,061 --> 00:29:50,667 to do what you failed to do that day. 679 00:29:57,438 --> 00:29:59,008 JACK: You're originally from Poland, 680 00:29:59,073 --> 00:30:01,053 is that right, Mr. Radzanower? 681 00:30:01,108 --> 00:30:03,384 From Budzanov. A little town. 682 00:30:03,444 --> 00:30:06,118 And you knew a man named Pietro Grimaldi? 683 00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:07,682 I knew him, yes. 684 00:30:07,748 --> 00:30:09,989 Tell us how, if you would, sir. 685 00:30:10,484 --> 00:30:13,363 It was 1939. 686 00:30:14,255 --> 00:30:17,998 The last time we were all together as a family. 687 00:30:19,260 --> 00:30:23,333 The Germans just moved into Poland, 688 00:30:24,232 --> 00:30:27,679 and things became very difficult. 689 00:30:28,336 --> 00:30:30,248 Difficult? For the Jews. 690 00:30:31,173 --> 00:30:34,518 My father owned a small trucking company. 691 00:30:35,043 --> 00:30:36,681 He came to work one day 692 00:30:37,512 --> 00:30:40,550 to find all his trucks burned 693 00:30:40,616 --> 00:30:43,893 and the windows of our garage broken. 694 00:30:45,554 --> 00:30:48,501 Unfortunately, most of the Poles 695 00:30:48,557 --> 00:30:52,630 didn't need much encouragement to hate us. 696 00:30:55,197 --> 00:30:57,973 That night, Grimaldi showed up. 697 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:00,246 And he talked to your father? 698 00:31:00,302 --> 00:31:02,145 He told my father 699 00:31:03,006 --> 00:31:05,782 the Jews are being killed in Germany. 700 00:31:06,576 --> 00:31:09,955 It's just a matter of time for all of us. 701 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,594 Then he showed my father a picture 702 00:31:15,018 --> 00:31:19,899 of women and children in a ditch, shot. 703 00:31:21,424 --> 00:31:27,466 Then he offered to sell my father insurance. 704 00:31:28,831 --> 00:31:30,401 Of course, he bought. 705 00:31:30,967 --> 00:31:33,413 JACK: And you're sure this was Pietro Grimaldi? 706 00:31:33,536 --> 00:31:37,246 My father made us memorize Grimaldi's name, 707 00:31:37,741 --> 00:31:39,687 and he told us where to go 708 00:31:40,077 --> 00:31:42,614 if something should happen. 709 00:31:43,614 --> 00:31:46,185 And what happened to your family, Mr. Radzanower? 710 00:31:46,550 --> 00:31:48,154 Hitler happened. 711 00:31:52,256 --> 00:31:54,429 And when it was over, 712 00:31:55,392 --> 00:31:58,236 I could only find my sister. 713 00:31:59,663 --> 00:32:01,336 She was very sick. 714 00:32:06,036 --> 00:32:09,746 I was 17, and we were alone. 715 00:32:10,675 --> 00:32:12,586 JACK: And what did you do? 716 00:32:12,677 --> 00:32:15,749 We walked. Over a year. 717 00:32:17,048 --> 00:32:19,289 I carried her most of the time. 718 00:32:20,218 --> 00:32:21,288 To Italy. 719 00:32:21,353 --> 00:32:24,027 To where my father told me Grimaldi should be. 720 00:32:24,823 --> 00:32:26,063 And did you find him? 721 00:32:26,124 --> 00:32:28,866 Yes. I asked him for our money. 722 00:32:28,927 --> 00:32:31,874 I told him without it my sister would die. 723 00:32:32,130 --> 00:32:33,404 And what did he say? 724 00:32:33,465 --> 00:32:36,241 He said he doesn't remember my father. 725 00:32:36,301 --> 00:32:39,839 He has no record of any policy. 726 00:32:40,739 --> 00:32:44,051 And without a death certificate, 727 00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:47,523 I don't have even proof that my father is dead. 728 00:32:50,182 --> 00:32:54,028 The Nazis did not give any death certificates. 729 00:32:55,388 --> 00:32:59,427 I have only one from Italy. 730 00:33:00,593 --> 00:33:02,129 For my sister. 731 00:33:09,568 --> 00:33:11,479 I have nothing further. 732 00:33:16,308 --> 00:33:17,845 (CLEARING THROAT) 733 00:33:18,211 --> 00:33:20,248 Prior to this trial, sir, 734 00:33:20,313 --> 00:33:24,022 had you ever heard of the All-Atlantic Insurance Company? 735 00:33:24,084 --> 00:33:25,154 No. 736 00:33:25,218 --> 00:33:28,756 Then your father did not buy a policy from them, did he? 737 00:33:28,955 --> 00:33:30,901 He bought from Federali. 738 00:33:30,957 --> 00:33:32,402 So you would not have made a claim 739 00:33:32,459 --> 00:33:34,530 against the All-Atlantic Insurance Company, 740 00:33:34,594 --> 00:33:36,130 because you had no basis to believe 741 00:33:36,196 --> 00:33:37,937 that they owed you any money, is that right? 742 00:33:37,998 --> 00:33:39,033 Objection. 743 00:33:39,099 --> 00:33:41,136 The question calls for a legal conclusion. 744 00:33:41,201 --> 00:33:43,374 Judge, it is the People's theory 745 00:33:43,437 --> 00:33:45,075 that my clients stole a book 746 00:33:45,138 --> 00:33:48,244 to prevent this man and others like him from claiming their insurance. 747 00:33:48,308 --> 00:33:49,753 I'd like a chance to find out whether 748 00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:53,349 he thinks my clients owed him any money in the first place. 749 00:33:53,414 --> 00:33:56,861 Do you think these men owe you anything, Mr. Radzanower? 750 00:33:57,185 --> 00:34:01,930 I think these men should close their eyes 751 00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:04,265 and see my sister. 752 00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:08,865 See my sister as a little girl she was once, 753 00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:11,274 and a woman she should have been. 754 00:34:12,366 --> 00:34:16,109 Then I want them to open their eyes 755 00:34:16,370 --> 00:34:21,149 and tell me if they think they owe me anything. 756 00:34:26,348 --> 00:34:28,419 My father showed me a book. 757 00:34:28,617 --> 00:34:30,893 He told me he'd kept a record of all the insurance policies 758 00:34:30,953 --> 00:34:34,526 he sold during the war, so he wouldn't be cheated out of his commissions. 759 00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:36,194 What sort of a record was this? 760 00:34:36,258 --> 00:34:39,432 Names, dates, policy numbers, places. 761 00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:41,540 What places? 762 00:34:42,865 --> 00:34:46,574 Warsaw, Lodz, Vienna, Prague. 763 00:34:47,436 --> 00:34:49,074 How many policies were there? 764 00:34:49,571 --> 00:34:52,211 Maybe a thousand. Maybe more. 765 00:34:55,944 --> 00:34:57,583 Nothing further. 766 00:35:00,216 --> 00:35:03,129 You didn't have a very good relationship with your father, 767 00:35:03,186 --> 00:35:05,063 did you, Mr. Grimaldi? 768 00:35:05,121 --> 00:35:06,191 No. 769 00:35:06,256 --> 00:35:07,929 In fact, you hated the man. 770 00:35:07,991 --> 00:35:10,767 I loved my father. I hated what he'd done. 771 00:35:10,827 --> 00:35:12,738 You mean, like, selling those policies. 772 00:35:12,796 --> 00:35:14,639 And having kept them secret, yes. 773 00:35:14,697 --> 00:35:15,869 I see. 774 00:35:16,866 --> 00:35:21,076 Well, tell us, when did you find out about the book? 775 00:35:22,238 --> 00:35:23,649 About 10 years ago. 776 00:35:23,706 --> 00:35:24,980 Ten years? 777 00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:27,021 Tell anybody, Mr. Grimaldi? 778 00:35:29,312 --> 00:35:30,382 No. 779 00:35:31,482 --> 00:35:33,723 Like father, like son. Objection. 780 00:35:33,784 --> 00:35:36,390 Isn't it a fact that he only reason you're coming forward now 781 00:35:36,453 --> 00:35:38,455 with this fiction about a book 782 00:35:38,522 --> 00:35:40,331 is that you were offered a plea bargain? 783 00:35:40,524 --> 00:35:42,629 A plea bargain for the murder of your own father. 784 00:35:42,693 --> 00:35:43,728 Objection. 785 00:35:43,794 --> 00:35:45,205 I wasn't offered a plea bargain. 786 00:35:45,262 --> 00:35:46,502 JUDGE: Sustained. 787 00:35:46,564 --> 00:35:48,168 Did you murder your father? 788 00:35:48,399 --> 00:35:50,777 Mr. Grimaldi, I have to warn you, 789 00:35:51,135 --> 00:35:53,308 you have the right not to answer under the Fifth Amendment. 790 00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:55,281 Judge, let me talk to my client. 791 00:35:55,339 --> 00:35:57,717 I don't need to talk to my lawyer. 792 00:35:57,775 --> 00:36:00,551 The record reflects counsel refused. 793 00:36:05,984 --> 00:36:07,395 I shot him. 794 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,558 GOLD: And the whole thing about this book was a scam, wasn't it? 795 00:36:11,623 --> 00:36:12,727 JORDAN: No. 796 00:36:12,791 --> 00:36:15,237 A scam to save your father, and now to save you. 797 00:36:15,293 --> 00:36:17,136 That is a lie. GOLD: There never was a book. 798 00:36:17,195 --> 00:36:19,573 There was. There was a book. 799 00:36:23,735 --> 00:36:25,373 And you're right. 800 00:36:26,071 --> 00:36:28,449 I should have said something a long time ago. 801 00:36:28,507 --> 00:36:30,043 GOLD: But you didn't, did you? 802 00:36:32,644 --> 00:36:35,921 When he told me, told me what it was, 803 00:36:37,315 --> 00:36:39,387 I begged him to turn it in. 804 00:36:42,154 --> 00:36:44,100 But he wouldn't listen. 805 00:36:44,624 --> 00:36:46,297 My father never listened. 806 00:36:46,359 --> 00:36:49,169 GOLD: So it's only now, when you're facing a murder charge 807 00:36:49,228 --> 00:36:51,435 that you decide to come forward, is that it? 808 00:36:51,497 --> 00:36:52,976 My father called me a few weeks ago 809 00:36:53,032 --> 00:36:55,171 and told me he'd been subpoenaed. 810 00:36:55,234 --> 00:36:56,542 He wanted to make sure I didn't say anything 811 00:36:56,602 --> 00:36:58,639 to anybody about the book. 812 00:36:58,704 --> 00:37:00,479 He told me he was going to sell it. 813 00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:01,644 To them. 814 00:37:01,707 --> 00:37:03,709 He even offered me money. 815 00:37:03,943 --> 00:37:04,978 For my children, he said. 816 00:37:05,044 --> 00:37:06,921 Object as non-responsive. 817 00:37:06,979 --> 00:37:08,390 Overruled. 818 00:37:09,248 --> 00:37:11,558 You can finish your answer, sir. 819 00:37:14,254 --> 00:37:16,530 When he came out of the bank, I was waiting for him. 820 00:37:16,590 --> 00:37:18,092 I had the gun. 821 00:37:18,759 --> 00:37:20,568 But I had to stop him. 822 00:37:22,162 --> 00:37:23,539 When he saw it, he became enraged. 823 00:37:23,597 --> 00:37:25,270 He reached for it. 824 00:37:26,033 --> 00:37:27,478 It went off. 825 00:37:31,705 --> 00:37:33,480 He just looked at me 826 00:37:36,143 --> 00:37:38,089 and then he walked away. 827 00:37:41,882 --> 00:37:43,589 If my father had sold that book 828 00:37:43,650 --> 00:37:46,097 and I had done nothing to stop him, 829 00:37:48,156 --> 00:37:50,397 I would have been lost forever. 830 00:37:56,664 --> 00:37:59,770 Even I have to admit it's pretty hard to blame him. 831 00:38:00,001 --> 00:38:01,776 Even harder to figure how to punish him. 832 00:38:01,836 --> 00:38:03,509 Can I talk to you? 833 00:38:05,807 --> 00:38:08,219 You shouldn't do that without your lawyer, Mr. Bresler. 834 00:38:08,276 --> 00:38:09,550 I am a lawyer, Mr. McCoy. 835 00:38:09,610 --> 00:38:11,317 I know what I'm doing. 836 00:38:11,379 --> 00:38:13,859 You won't be able to change your mind. 837 00:38:13,915 --> 00:38:16,395 I just watched someone's son ruin his life 838 00:38:16,451 --> 00:38:18,989 over the shame of his father's acts. 839 00:38:20,623 --> 00:38:22,432 I have a son myself. 840 00:38:24,193 --> 00:38:26,730 BRESLER: I'd found out what we'd done in '92. 841 00:38:27,596 --> 00:38:29,200 Hamilton Stewart had been the Director 842 00:38:29,264 --> 00:38:32,677 of All-Atlantic's European Operations during the war. 843 00:38:33,068 --> 00:38:35,014 He'd just read something about a Jewish family 844 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:37,573 suing a Swiss bank and its director. 845 00:38:39,041 --> 00:38:40,748 He was afraid something like that could happen to us. 846 00:38:40,809 --> 00:38:43,221 He wanted to know what our liability was. 847 00:38:43,279 --> 00:38:45,054 You mean, his liability. 848 00:38:45,114 --> 00:38:46,252 Yes. 849 00:38:46,315 --> 00:38:47,487 What did you tell him? 850 00:38:48,684 --> 00:38:51,995 That both he and the company had considerable exposure. 851 00:38:52,756 --> 00:38:55,430 If those policies could ever be proven to exist. 852 00:38:56,526 --> 00:38:58,062 ARTHUR: Enter the book. 853 00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:01,632 When Peter got the subpoena, he called Stewart. 854 00:39:01,731 --> 00:39:03,870 Told him he was going to turn the book over to the Italians 855 00:39:03,933 --> 00:39:05,310 unless he was paid $2 million. 856 00:39:06,002 --> 00:39:07,106 Why not pay? 857 00:39:08,038 --> 00:39:10,917 There's no way to hide a payment like that. 858 00:39:12,942 --> 00:39:16,082 That's when the decision was made to obtain the book. 859 00:39:16,146 --> 00:39:18,023 You mean, to steal it. 860 00:39:18,381 --> 00:39:21,590 I was told to tell Peter we had the money, 861 00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:23,426 and that he should bring the book to my office. 862 00:39:24,354 --> 00:39:26,961 Burton would be waiting for him when he came out of the bank. 863 00:39:27,358 --> 00:39:29,167 Where's the book now? 864 00:39:33,064 --> 00:39:36,978 Burton gave it to me and I gave it to Hamilton Stewart. 865 00:39:39,937 --> 00:39:42,577 I know what I did was a terrible thing. 866 00:39:43,074 --> 00:39:45,486 Your day of reckoning isn't today. 867 00:39:46,911 --> 00:39:48,515 Put Stewart in jail. 868 00:39:53,217 --> 00:39:56,323 At no time did lever order anyone 869 00:39:56,387 --> 00:39:59,699 to participate in a robbery, 870 00:40:01,126 --> 00:40:04,471 nor did I ever try to purchase any book. 871 00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:07,507 And the testimony we heard from Alan Bresler that you did? 872 00:40:07,566 --> 00:40:09,739 STEWART: Complete fabrication. 873 00:40:09,968 --> 00:40:13,575 GOLD: So, you also deny any effort by you or your company 874 00:40:13,638 --> 00:40:15,515 to prevent Holocaust victims 875 00:40:15,574 --> 00:40:18,817 from collecting on their legitimate insurance policies? 876 00:40:18,877 --> 00:40:22,757 Of course I do. Our hearts go out to any victim of war. 877 00:40:22,814 --> 00:40:27,285 But All-Atlantic is a publicly traded company, 878 00:40:27,752 --> 00:40:31,529 and as such it has an obligation to its shareholders. 879 00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:36,438 I simply can't turn it into a charity when it suits us. 880 00:40:38,398 --> 00:40:39,934 Thank you, sir. 881 00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:47,246 Did your hearts also go out to them 882 00:40:47,774 --> 00:40:50,880 when your subsidiary was selling them life insurance, 883 00:40:51,411 --> 00:40:53,550 knowing they had no chance of ever collecting? 884 00:40:54,981 --> 00:40:56,221 That was never done. 885 00:40:57,049 --> 00:40:58,426 Wasn't it? 886 00:40:59,285 --> 00:41:02,198 In 1932, Federali Insurance was writing 887 00:41:02,255 --> 00:41:05,395 about a million dollars a year in life insurance. 888 00:41:05,458 --> 00:41:10,169 By 1942, that number increased 10 times over. 889 00:41:11,331 --> 00:41:13,641 How do you suppose that happened, Mr. Stewart? 890 00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:15,805 You're talking about a long time ago. 891 00:41:15,869 --> 00:41:18,145 Don't tell us you've forgotten the details 892 00:41:18,205 --> 00:41:21,152 that made your career at All-Atlantic. 893 00:41:22,543 --> 00:41:24,352 You were able to sell those policies 894 00:41:24,511 --> 00:41:27,117 because of the persecution of Jewish families. Isn't that what happened? 895 00:41:27,181 --> 00:41:28,922 I didn't know anything about that. 896 00:41:28,982 --> 00:41:30,552 Didn't know? 897 00:41:34,221 --> 00:41:35,666 You were All-Atlantic's Director 898 00:41:35,722 --> 00:41:39,135 for Eastern European Operations in 1938, weren't you? 899 00:41:39,192 --> 00:41:40,638 Yes. And Federali 900 00:41:40,728 --> 00:41:43,766 and its salesmen were reporting directly to you, weren't they? 901 00:41:43,832 --> 00:41:46,073 There were rumors, that's all. 902 00:41:46,768 --> 00:41:48,509 Unsubstantiated rumors. 903 00:41:48,569 --> 00:41:50,708 The numbers don't lie, Mr. Stewart. 904 00:41:50,772 --> 00:41:53,912 Are you telling us that you suspected nothing? 905 00:41:53,975 --> 00:41:56,251 You make it sound like we were the only ones. 906 00:41:56,311 --> 00:41:57,654 We weren't. 907 00:41:57,712 --> 00:41:59,623 American car companies, 908 00:41:59,681 --> 00:42:00,887 banks, 909 00:42:01,716 --> 00:42:03,320 airplane manufacturers. 910 00:42:03,384 --> 00:42:06,058 We were all doing business with Germany. 911 00:42:07,088 --> 00:42:09,398 My God, our own State Department 912 00:42:09,457 --> 00:42:11,767 refused entry to these people 913 00:42:11,826 --> 00:42:15,104 based on the same information we had. 914 00:42:15,164 --> 00:42:16,973 It was just business. 915 00:42:17,032 --> 00:42:19,308 Yes. Good business. 916 00:42:20,636 --> 00:42:23,446 So good, you rewarded Peter Grimaldi 917 00:42:23,539 --> 00:42:25,018 with a job at the parent company 918 00:42:25,074 --> 00:42:26,815 the minute he stepped off the boat, didn't you? 919 00:42:26,876 --> 00:42:29,720 Peter had produced for us in Europe. 920 00:42:34,516 --> 00:42:38,123 Pretty risky proposition for an insurance company 921 00:42:38,187 --> 00:42:41,930 to sell life insurance during wartime, isn't it, Mr. Stewart? 922 00:42:42,458 --> 00:42:43,630 I suppose. 923 00:42:43,692 --> 00:42:46,764 Because war raises the risk of death, isn't that right? 924 00:42:46,829 --> 00:42:47,900 Yes. 925 00:42:48,331 --> 00:42:51,642 And death is certainly not good business 926 00:42:51,701 --> 00:42:53,203 for a life insurance company, is it? 927 00:42:53,269 --> 00:42:54,270 No. 928 00:42:54,337 --> 00:42:57,875 But All-Atlantic couldn't sell policies fast enough, could it? 929 00:42:57,941 --> 00:43:00,581 Because you knew the people you were selling to 930 00:43:00,643 --> 00:43:03,089 had no hope of ever collecting. 931 00:43:03,146 --> 00:43:05,148 No hope of ever presenting a death certificate. 932 00:43:05,215 --> 00:43:06,250 Objection. 933 00:43:06,316 --> 00:43:07,454 Maybe they should have brought 934 00:43:07,517 --> 00:43:09,793 their parents' ashes in a bag to you. 935 00:43:09,853 --> 00:43:11,196 Mr. McCoy. 936 00:43:11,321 --> 00:43:15,633 Millions of dollars being made in the sale of life insurance, 937 00:43:15,692 --> 00:43:18,639 and yet, after over 50 years, 938 00:43:18,695 --> 00:43:20,972 not a single policy ever paid. 939 00:43:25,136 --> 00:43:26,444 What do you suppose happened 940 00:43:26,504 --> 00:43:28,882 to all those people, Mr. Stewart? 941 00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:30,944 I have no idea. 942 00:43:31,676 --> 00:43:33,952 Don't tell us you didn't know. 943 00:43:34,979 --> 00:43:37,892 The fact of the matter is, you counted on it. 944 00:43:49,827 --> 00:43:51,704 The book for probation. 945 00:43:53,598 --> 00:43:55,272 That's your proposition? 946 00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:56,812 STEWART: Did you know that Federali 947 00:43:56,868 --> 00:43:59,815 was originally founded by a Jewish family? 948 00:43:59,871 --> 00:44:01,873 They were doing it to their own people. 949 00:44:01,940 --> 00:44:05,080 Mr. McCoy, that book can ease a lot of financial pain. 950 00:44:05,344 --> 00:44:08,188 I won't let your client use his company's money 951 00:44:08,246 --> 00:44:10,385 to pay his debt to society. 952 00:44:10,449 --> 00:44:13,623 Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a closing argument to write. 953 00:44:17,856 --> 00:44:19,665 What can I get for the book? 954 00:44:20,392 --> 00:44:21,769 Four to twelve. 955 00:44:27,833 --> 00:44:30,474 And I want a written agreement waiving your right 956 00:44:30,536 --> 00:44:33,642 to contest extradition to Italy if they want you there. 957 00:44:43,049 --> 00:44:47,361 JACK: Turned out to be the only bargaining chip they had. 958 00:44:48,921 --> 00:44:51,231 Insurance for the insurance men. 959 00:44:52,592 --> 00:44:54,731 Still, it's scary to think that without that book, 960 00:44:54,794 --> 00:44:57,707 they could have claimed none of it was real. 961 00:44:58,765 --> 00:45:01,336 It wasn't the book that made it real.