1 00:00:00,853 --> 00:00:02,878 In the criminal justice system... 2 00:00:02,955 --> 00:00:06,618 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:06,692 --> 00:00:08,421 The police who investigate crime... 4 00:00:08,594 --> 00:00:11,324 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,430 --> 00:00:12,692 These are their stories. 6 00:00:26,112 --> 00:00:27,101 I've been a bad boy. 7 00:00:44,831 --> 00:00:48,858 Hey, guys. Midnight House. A good place to stay, a meal. Check it out. 8 00:00:52,606 --> 00:00:54,096 Hola, Lola. 9 00:00:55,742 --> 00:00:56,766 Como esta? 10 00:00:56,843 --> 00:00:58,208 Fun to say, no? 11 00:00:59,279 --> 00:01:00,541 How about taking a night off? 12 00:01:01,448 --> 00:01:03,177 No nights off for me, honey. 13 00:01:04,051 --> 00:01:05,678 I'll see you at soup kitchen tomorrow. 14 00:01:05,752 --> 00:01:09,279 Yeah, yeah. Go away, Padre. You're bad for business. 15 00:01:12,192 --> 00:01:15,320 Here you go. Father Jack. I'm at Midnight House. Drop on by anytime. 16 00:01:16,096 --> 00:01:19,497 Guys. Father Jack, Midnight House Shelter. Get you off the street tonight. 17 00:01:19,566 --> 00:01:21,830 We got a soup kitchen tomorrow. Come on by. 18 00:01:26,740 --> 00:01:28,800 Hey, Midnight House Shelter. 19 00:01:29,110 --> 00:01:30,907 You come down. Come on by? 20 00:01:32,146 --> 00:01:33,135 Thanks, man. 21 00:01:34,649 --> 00:01:36,014 Hey, you too, kid. 22 00:01:39,887 --> 00:01:41,718 Hey, would you get a cop? 23 00:01:44,258 --> 00:01:47,386 For God's sakes, the kid's dying. Get a cop, now. 24 00:01:50,565 --> 00:01:52,863 I'm out here every night. I know a lot of them. 25 00:01:52,934 --> 00:01:54,458 What about this one? 26 00:01:54,635 --> 00:01:57,433 Greyhound pulls in every 10 minutes. There's always a new face. 27 00:01:57,739 --> 00:01:59,900 Running from worse than this, if you can imagine. 28 00:02:01,275 --> 00:02:03,937 You got any kids we can talk to? Maybe they've seen him around. 29 00:02:04,112 --> 00:02:07,548 Well, the regulars pass up the bed, but they come by tomorrow for food. 30 00:02:07,615 --> 00:02:09,344 They don't pass up a free meal. 31 00:02:10,051 --> 00:02:11,746 All right. Can you stick around, Father? 32 00:02:11,819 --> 00:02:12,752 Thank you. 33 00:02:12,821 --> 00:02:14,914 Looks like he had a rough night, doesn't it? 34 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:16,389 Kid was beaten to a pulp. 35 00:02:16,458 --> 00:02:18,358 Broken ribs, massive internal bleeding. 36 00:02:18,427 --> 00:02:20,486 My guess, somebody's pretty handy with his feet. 37 00:02:20,829 --> 00:02:23,263 Johnny Doe. No wallet, no ID. 38 00:02:25,167 --> 00:02:28,295 Gets off the bus from Plattsburgh, and it's welcome to the Big Apple. 39 00:02:28,370 --> 00:02:30,497 No, no, he's not an import. He's a local. 40 00:02:30,572 --> 00:02:32,665 Look, student bus pass. 41 00:02:33,175 --> 00:02:34,642 Working his way through school. 42 00:02:35,978 --> 00:02:39,175 When I was a kid and wanted extra lunch money, I delivered groceries. 43 00:02:39,815 --> 00:02:42,613 Hey, tips wouldn't buy what he had on his feet. 44 00:02:42,684 --> 00:02:45,084 Air Max. $130 a pair. 45 00:02:46,522 --> 00:02:48,683 They still don't make you run fast enough. 46 00:03:39,309 --> 00:03:41,403 I just said, I don't know him. 47 00:03:41,812 --> 00:03:43,473 I ain't seen him. 48 00:03:43,614 --> 00:03:45,309 I ain't even heard of him, all right? 49 00:03:45,382 --> 00:03:48,044 Well, why don't you start by looking at the picture, okay? 50 00:03:48,152 --> 00:03:50,450 Man, I don't know him. 51 00:03:51,155 --> 00:03:54,921 Look, we don't catch this guy, next time this could be you, honey. 52 00:03:55,526 --> 00:03:59,656 My tricks like little girls. Little boys, that's a whole other kind of freak. 53 00:04:01,398 --> 00:04:02,422 Give me a break, would you? 54 00:04:02,499 --> 00:04:05,935 'Cause, you know, the Father here tells me you're on the corner every night. 55 00:04:06,003 --> 00:04:09,302 Now a good-looking new kid on the block, I think you're gonna notice him. 56 00:04:09,607 --> 00:04:12,474 Only if he's flashing jack and wants a date with me. 57 00:04:12,543 --> 00:04:14,773 Other than that, I'm strictly for the girls. 58 00:04:14,912 --> 00:04:16,641 Sorry you got your hopes up. 59 00:04:17,181 --> 00:04:20,344 I tell the young dudes "never work solo. " It's just not safe. 60 00:04:20,951 --> 00:04:23,715 Mr. Brown rolls in from the suburbs, all buttoned down. 61 00:04:24,021 --> 00:04:26,820 Once he gets your little butt in the saddle, he cuts loose. 62 00:04:26,892 --> 00:04:28,052 This is what happens. 63 00:04:28,126 --> 00:04:29,423 This kid get your warning? 64 00:04:29,494 --> 00:04:33,055 I don't know him from Eve, and, baby, Lewis knows everybody. 65 00:04:33,164 --> 00:04:36,099 I'll tell you this, though. Looks like he was in the rough trade. 66 00:04:36,167 --> 00:04:37,862 Specialty acts need management, huh? 67 00:04:38,770 --> 00:04:39,828 Got that right. 68 00:04:39,905 --> 00:04:41,634 So you got a name for me, Lewis? 69 00:04:41,973 --> 00:04:45,101 Honey, if they're cruising for a bruising, they work for Mr. Clyde. 70 00:04:45,176 --> 00:04:47,007 Sounds like you got his beeper number. 71 00:04:47,078 --> 00:04:49,546 Not this child. Pain pays, but see where it gets you. 72 00:04:52,183 --> 00:04:53,946 Thank heaven for little boys 73 00:04:54,085 --> 00:04:55,643 Check it out, check it out. 74 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,620 Check it out, Manhole. Check it out, man. No. 75 00:04:57,689 --> 00:05:00,055 Manhole, check it out, sir. Man... 76 00:05:00,191 --> 00:05:01,818 No cover charge for the men in blue. 77 00:05:01,893 --> 00:05:04,885 We're not here for the show. You know a Mr. Clyde? 78 00:05:05,931 --> 00:05:08,092 He's the man, right there. 79 00:05:08,166 --> 00:05:10,601 Check it out. Manhole. Hey, sir, don't be shy. Come on in. 80 00:05:21,447 --> 00:05:23,278 Kid's not old enough to be in here. 81 00:05:23,349 --> 00:05:25,442 I'm not old enough to be in here. 82 00:05:25,518 --> 00:05:27,349 Hey. We're looking for Clyde. 83 00:05:31,023 --> 00:05:32,820 Mike, don't touch anything. 84 00:05:33,292 --> 00:05:35,852 Hey, I'm all paid up at the precinct. 85 00:05:36,028 --> 00:05:37,359 I'm not laughing, Clyde. 86 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:38,727 What do you want from me? 87 00:05:38,831 --> 00:05:41,959 I run a legitimate business for patrons of the dance. 88 00:05:42,435 --> 00:05:45,165 Any of your patrons dance on this kid's face? 89 00:05:45,871 --> 00:05:48,431 Oh, shucks. The party got out of hand. 90 00:05:48,507 --> 00:05:50,532 Let me know where to send flowers. 91 00:05:50,609 --> 00:05:52,474 Hey, clown... 92 00:05:52,545 --> 00:05:55,709 just for laughs, we're gonna lock you up for child prostitution. 93 00:05:55,816 --> 00:05:57,113 And you won't last five minutes. 94 00:05:57,184 --> 00:05:59,550 They'll be sending flowers to you, cowboy. 95 00:05:59,619 --> 00:06:01,951 Hey, I deal only with consenting adults. 96 00:06:02,022 --> 00:06:03,819 What, do you check their driver's license? 97 00:06:03,890 --> 00:06:05,824 Matter of fact, yeah. You know different? 98 00:06:05,892 --> 00:06:08,827 Take a nice, long look. 99 00:06:10,831 --> 00:06:15,564 No. I never seen him. I told you before, I don't handle that end of the business. 100 00:06:15,869 --> 00:06:16,995 It ain't worth the trouble. 101 00:06:17,070 --> 00:06:21,131 Yeah, well, I think you better come along with us, while we check your references. 102 00:06:24,344 --> 00:06:26,972 I'd put the kid at about 13, 14. 103 00:06:27,047 --> 00:06:29,811 Time to worry about pimples and Debby from next door. 104 00:06:29,883 --> 00:06:32,078 He had more pressing concerns. 105 00:06:32,719 --> 00:06:35,449 Cracked ribs, punctured lung, ruptured spleen. 106 00:06:35,522 --> 00:06:37,616 He was hemorrhaging from almost every organ. 107 00:06:38,192 --> 00:06:39,887 How long could he walk around like that? 108 00:06:40,228 --> 00:06:41,923 Slow rate of seepage? 109 00:06:42,063 --> 00:06:43,223 A couple of hours. 110 00:06:43,531 --> 00:06:45,556 Priest said he found him a little after 11:00. 111 00:06:45,666 --> 00:06:47,327 Beating at 9:00, film at 11:00. 112 00:06:47,402 --> 00:06:49,768 Listen, we think the kid might have been working the street. 113 00:06:49,837 --> 00:06:52,704 Really? Doing what, selling newspapers? 114 00:06:53,074 --> 00:06:55,133 Saw no evidence of sexual activity. 115 00:06:55,209 --> 00:06:57,109 No fluids, no tearing of tissue. 116 00:06:57,678 --> 00:06:59,942 What about his wounds? Anything kinky? 117 00:07:00,014 --> 00:07:02,380 Just your normal blunt-force wounds. 118 00:07:02,683 --> 00:07:04,981 Then I guess we have to let the choreographer go. 119 00:07:05,853 --> 00:07:08,151 Somebody on the street had to know that kid. 120 00:07:08,489 --> 00:07:10,650 I doubt he was sleeping in any alley. 121 00:07:10,925 --> 00:07:13,519 How many runaways do you know eat string beans? 122 00:07:18,266 --> 00:07:19,494 Kid had a full belly. 123 00:07:19,567 --> 00:07:22,799 Meat, potatoes, string beans, milk. 124 00:07:23,539 --> 00:07:26,565 When I was his age, the only place I ever saw string beans was at home. 125 00:07:26,642 --> 00:07:28,371 What about the Father's soup kitchen? 126 00:07:28,444 --> 00:07:31,504 No, we checked the menu. They had soup and sandwiches three days running. 127 00:07:31,580 --> 00:07:34,310 He lives at home. His parents should have called 911 by now. 128 00:07:34,383 --> 00:07:36,874 Missing Persons doesn't have anyone matching this description. 129 00:07:36,952 --> 00:07:38,852 We sent photos to every precinct... 130 00:07:38,921 --> 00:07:40,912 you know, in case the parents happened to walk in. 131 00:07:40,989 --> 00:07:41,956 No hits. 132 00:07:42,024 --> 00:07:44,857 It's been 48 hours. I'm sure they would have noticed he's missing. 133 00:07:44,927 --> 00:07:47,452 Unless they're the reason he's lying on a slab. 134 00:07:48,063 --> 00:07:49,963 I mean, if they were smacking him around... 135 00:07:50,065 --> 00:07:52,397 maybe they didn't care where he crawled off to die. 136 00:07:52,734 --> 00:07:54,702 You said the kid had a school bus pass. 137 00:07:54,770 --> 00:07:55,930 No name on it. 138 00:07:56,038 --> 00:07:59,166 My kids' passes are good only on the lines that take them to school. 139 00:07:59,241 --> 00:08:01,607 What was his, the Lower East Side? Yeah. 140 00:08:01,944 --> 00:08:03,639 Start with the junior highs. 141 00:08:04,313 --> 00:08:07,511 Look, I'm telling you, the faces, they go right by. 142 00:08:07,584 --> 00:08:10,849 Well, maybe if you checked your attendance records for the past two days. 143 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,649 You're making a joke, right? 144 00:08:12,755 --> 00:08:15,622 You name the day, at least 20% of my students are absent. 145 00:08:15,692 --> 00:08:17,956 Look, lady, this one isn't coming back. 146 00:08:18,528 --> 00:08:22,055 Now look at him. Two nights ago, we found him dead on the sidewalk. 147 00:08:22,132 --> 00:08:23,599 We'd like to give him a name. 148 00:08:24,367 --> 00:08:25,391 I'm sorry. 149 00:08:25,835 --> 00:08:27,359 We have over 2,000 students. 150 00:08:27,437 --> 00:08:29,997 Maybe one of the homeroom teachers will recognize him. 151 00:08:32,275 --> 00:08:33,708 So long, Mrs. Chips. 152 00:08:34,644 --> 00:08:37,511 If this kid had trouble at home, I bet he was trouble at school. 153 00:08:38,181 --> 00:08:40,877 Maybe in line for a little individual attention, huh? 154 00:08:41,084 --> 00:08:43,552 They used to send me to the guidance counselor. 155 00:08:44,287 --> 00:08:45,549 John Lasky. 156 00:08:46,122 --> 00:08:47,521 One of my regulars. 157 00:08:48,525 --> 00:08:50,756 Not exactly the teacher's pet, huh? 158 00:08:51,495 --> 00:08:53,588 John got an A in energy. 159 00:08:53,664 --> 00:08:55,291 Non-stop motion. 160 00:08:55,566 --> 00:08:57,431 Mouth like the Grand Canyon. 161 00:08:58,602 --> 00:09:00,661 Got him in trouble on a daily basis. 162 00:09:01,739 --> 00:09:04,970 Off the record, the kid cracked me up. 163 00:09:05,643 --> 00:09:07,702 Where'd he get his chuckles after class? 164 00:09:07,945 --> 00:09:09,640 I think he lived in the Alphabets... 165 00:09:09,713 --> 00:09:12,807 with his mother and her boyfriend. I might still have the address. 166 00:09:12,883 --> 00:09:13,872 Might? 167 00:09:13,951 --> 00:09:17,387 You don't hear from a kid for a couple of days, you gonna throw out his records? 168 00:09:17,621 --> 00:09:20,784 Forty kids in a class is about all we can handle. 169 00:09:21,358 --> 00:09:23,758 Johnny was transferred... 170 00:09:23,994 --> 00:09:25,621 at the end of last year. 171 00:09:28,799 --> 00:09:30,323 Hey, what can I tell you? 172 00:09:30,401 --> 00:09:31,834 The bitch moved out. 173 00:09:32,603 --> 00:09:34,799 I don't know, two, three months ago. 174 00:09:34,873 --> 00:09:37,034 And you're still carrying the torch, huh? 175 00:09:37,509 --> 00:09:39,977 Tori was a piece, you know? 176 00:09:40,111 --> 00:09:43,512 But the brat, forget about it. I had a theory about him. 177 00:09:43,815 --> 00:09:45,442 What's going on, Zack? 178 00:09:45,884 --> 00:09:48,011 We got company, what does it look like? 179 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,618 Hey, Delia, you want to cover your butt, or what? 180 00:09:52,324 --> 00:09:53,586 I gotta go pee. 181 00:09:55,894 --> 00:09:59,352 So, you were saying, about your theory? 182 00:09:59,431 --> 00:10:02,059 Half the reason she got strung out was 'cause of him. 183 00:10:02,867 --> 00:10:04,562 Kid couldn't sit still. Drive you nuts. 184 00:10:04,669 --> 00:10:07,866 So the kid drove you nuts, and you gave both of them the boot, huh, Zack? 185 00:10:07,939 --> 00:10:11,875 Hey, I gotta go out of town with the band, come back, find her out of her head? 186 00:10:12,177 --> 00:10:13,701 How long do I gotta put up with that? 187 00:10:13,778 --> 00:10:15,973 Yeah. So everybody's partying... 188 00:10:16,114 --> 00:10:17,741 and Johnny's gonna take care of Johnny? 189 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:20,584 What do I look like, the Partridge family? 190 00:10:21,821 --> 00:10:24,483 When they hit the road, where did they go? 191 00:10:24,590 --> 00:10:26,854 If I knew that, I wouldn't be stuck with her bills. 192 00:10:26,993 --> 00:10:29,393 If you had to guess- I don't know. 193 00:10:31,097 --> 00:10:32,257 Maybe... 194 00:10:32,765 --> 00:10:34,357 I heard she was back in rehab. 195 00:10:35,568 --> 00:10:38,264 Daybreak Village, out on the Island. 196 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:43,231 I didn't have nothing in the world, but Johnny. 197 00:10:43,776 --> 00:10:44,936 Nothing. 198 00:10:45,711 --> 00:10:47,201 Those bastards... 199 00:10:47,713 --> 00:10:49,476 They kidnapped him. Who did? 200 00:10:49,548 --> 00:10:53,314 Child Welfare. They ripped him out of my arms and put him in foster care. 201 00:10:53,419 --> 00:10:56,616 Maybe they were afraid you'd stick a needle in his arm by mistake. 202 00:10:58,057 --> 00:10:59,490 I would never... 203 00:10:59,558 --> 00:11:01,549 I would never hurt him. Not in a million... 204 00:11:03,196 --> 00:11:05,096 I'm here 'cause of him. 205 00:11:05,699 --> 00:11:08,361 They wouldn't give him back, unless I got clean. 206 00:11:08,935 --> 00:11:10,425 You know where he was living? 207 00:11:10,504 --> 00:11:12,972 No, why would they tell me? I'm only the mother. 208 00:11:13,173 --> 00:11:15,300 I might steal him or something. 209 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:18,810 They said I was too dangerous. 210 00:11:19,413 --> 00:11:21,313 And look what they did to him. 211 00:11:35,162 --> 00:11:38,427 First day on the job, they dumped Johnny Lasky on my desk... 212 00:11:38,665 --> 00:11:41,896 along with 28 other members of the Oliver Twist club. 213 00:11:42,369 --> 00:11:45,566 He told me I was his sixth caseworker in 10 years. 214 00:11:45,739 --> 00:11:48,140 Just what every kid needs, consistency. 215 00:11:48,476 --> 00:11:51,707 They tell me a couple more years, I'll be ready to quit, too. 216 00:11:52,013 --> 00:11:53,981 These kids can tear your heart in half. 217 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:56,116 Looks like the damage goes both ways. 218 00:11:56,718 --> 00:11:59,152 He tested positive for heroin at birth. 219 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,514 Johnny never had a chance. 220 00:12:00,588 --> 00:12:03,819 Well, putting him on the foster care merry-go-round didn't improve the odds. 221 00:12:03,891 --> 00:12:07,725 Just because she has the right plumbing didn't make Tori Lasky fit to be a mother. 222 00:12:07,795 --> 00:12:09,592 Yeah, we had the pleasure of meeting her. 223 00:12:09,664 --> 00:12:13,259 Two months ago, Johnny showed up for class every shade of purple. 224 00:12:13,368 --> 00:12:16,235 Don't tell me, the boyfriend used him for a drum solo. 225 00:12:16,771 --> 00:12:18,762 Poor kid was too scared to say. 226 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,601 Anyway, Johnny went into foster care, and Tori went into rehab. 227 00:12:22,677 --> 00:12:24,611 You know the rest. Not quite. 228 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,408 We'd like to see the foster parents. 229 00:12:26,514 --> 00:12:27,742 Sure. 230 00:12:28,249 --> 00:12:30,149 We put him in with Flo Bishop. 231 00:12:30,386 --> 00:12:32,183 He lucked out. She's terrific. 232 00:12:32,654 --> 00:12:34,588 She knew Johnny was a hard case... 233 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:36,121 but she didn't mind. 234 00:12:36,225 --> 00:12:39,285 Yeah. She also didn't mind him being missing for three days. 235 00:12:39,862 --> 00:12:41,022 Thanks. 236 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:43,723 I take good care of my boys. 237 00:12:44,133 --> 00:12:46,328 I never even let them go out alone. 238 00:12:46,668 --> 00:12:49,432 And if one of them forgets to come home, you don't report him? 239 00:12:49,605 --> 00:12:51,163 I was sure he would be back. 240 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,441 Look, I report him, they transfer him to a group home... 241 00:12:55,778 --> 00:12:57,109 that's no better than a prison. 242 00:12:57,179 --> 00:12:59,340 Well, it's better than a morgue, don't you think? 243 00:12:59,882 --> 00:13:02,009 I had no way of knowing. 244 00:13:02,918 --> 00:13:06,376 I try to provide for these boys some kind of stability. 245 00:13:06,989 --> 00:13:09,651 I thought Johnny was making real progress. 246 00:13:11,193 --> 00:13:13,627 He went to a 6:00 show at the movies. 247 00:13:13,929 --> 00:13:16,490 He went with two of the other boys, Chris and Andy. 248 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,500 On the way home, they turn around and he's gone. 249 00:13:19,736 --> 00:13:21,761 Would they have any idea where he went? 250 00:13:22,472 --> 00:13:24,667 No. They just said he took off. 251 00:13:25,442 --> 00:13:28,104 I could guess. I mean, usually when the boys run away... 252 00:13:28,211 --> 00:13:29,508 they go back to their parents. 253 00:13:29,579 --> 00:13:31,843 Hoping Mom and Dad get their act together. 254 00:13:32,982 --> 00:13:35,348 And then in a day or two, they come back to me. 255 00:13:36,486 --> 00:13:38,511 And they never run away again. 256 00:13:39,722 --> 00:13:42,316 Two hours of watching Van Damme makes you hungry. 257 00:13:42,926 --> 00:13:45,190 So around 8:00, you stopped for food, right? 258 00:13:45,261 --> 00:13:47,855 Yeah, we did. But Johnny... 259 00:13:48,498 --> 00:13:52,662 We go to get a slice on Dyckman and he's beamed up, like some UFO grabbed him. 260 00:13:52,735 --> 00:13:55,568 How about it, Andy? He say anything to you before he left? 261 00:13:56,473 --> 00:13:57,599 Nothing. 262 00:13:57,674 --> 00:13:58,869 He just booked... 263 00:13:59,243 --> 00:14:00,505 like Chris said. 264 00:14:00,978 --> 00:14:02,275 Maybe he got homesick. 265 00:14:03,714 --> 00:14:05,545 I don't know. No, the way Johnny told it... 266 00:14:05,616 --> 00:14:07,208 home was what made you sick. 267 00:14:07,585 --> 00:14:09,143 That guy his mom shacked up with... 268 00:14:09,653 --> 00:14:10,642 a real jerk. 269 00:14:10,721 --> 00:14:12,655 Enough of a jerk to hit Johnny? 270 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:14,948 What else is new? 271 00:14:21,031 --> 00:14:22,965 I never laid a hand on him. 272 00:14:23,701 --> 00:14:24,725 Never. 273 00:14:24,802 --> 00:14:27,999 Then what, two months ago he fell in the bathtub? 274 00:14:29,139 --> 00:14:31,039 It was between me and Tori. 275 00:14:31,575 --> 00:14:32,633 He got in the way. 276 00:14:32,710 --> 00:14:35,304 Yeah, and he walked right into your fists. 277 00:14:35,746 --> 00:14:37,236 It's Friday night, Zack... 278 00:14:37,515 --> 00:14:40,006 you must've been really ticked off when the kid showed up, huh? 279 00:14:40,150 --> 00:14:41,617 I told you, I wasn't there. 280 00:14:41,685 --> 00:14:43,347 I was doing a gig in Jersey. 281 00:14:44,623 --> 00:14:46,955 Don't get us wrong. We understand. 282 00:14:47,492 --> 00:14:48,652 The little brat... 283 00:14:49,027 --> 00:14:50,927 he got in the way of the scene with his mom. 284 00:14:50,996 --> 00:14:52,327 Hey, you guys are nuts. 285 00:14:52,964 --> 00:14:55,762 I ain't saying anything till I get a lawyer. 286 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:07,078 His alibi checks, if you squint. 287 00:15:07,145 --> 00:15:10,308 The club manager in Bayonne said the band hit the stage at 11:00. 288 00:15:10,382 --> 00:15:12,247 He can't remember what time Zack showed up. 289 00:15:13,385 --> 00:15:15,080 Look, we're not ready to cut him loose. 290 00:15:15,153 --> 00:15:17,280 This creep could have beat the kid and made the show. 291 00:15:17,355 --> 00:15:18,947 You said he had a girlfriend? 292 00:15:19,090 --> 00:15:22,651 Yeah, just this side of jailbait. She's a waitress downtown. 293 00:15:22,761 --> 00:15:25,252 Check her timecard for last Friday. 294 00:15:27,233 --> 00:15:30,361 I stayed home Friday night. I was sick. 295 00:15:31,070 --> 00:15:32,162 Stomach flu. 296 00:15:32,238 --> 00:15:34,763 Did Zack stick around to make you chicken soup? 297 00:15:34,941 --> 00:15:37,432 I don't need his help to puke my guts out. 298 00:15:38,277 --> 00:15:39,471 He left around 8:00. 299 00:15:39,812 --> 00:15:41,109 Why don't you just ask him? 300 00:15:41,180 --> 00:15:44,616 You say he left around 8:00. He didn't get to club till about 11:00. 301 00:15:44,784 --> 00:15:47,252 It doesn't take three hours to get to Bayonne. 302 00:15:47,753 --> 00:15:50,221 So maybe he stopped to tune his guitar. 303 00:15:50,623 --> 00:15:54,684 Delia, if you're lying to protect him, that makes you an accomplice to murder. 304 00:15:55,494 --> 00:15:57,018 You mean that kid? 305 00:15:57,663 --> 00:15:59,028 Are you out of your mind? 306 00:15:59,699 --> 00:16:01,758 What about these bruises on your arm? 307 00:16:01,834 --> 00:16:03,665 Are those hallucinations, too? 308 00:16:10,009 --> 00:16:11,978 Does he always talk with his fist? 309 00:16:12,613 --> 00:16:15,912 Johnny Lasky was at the apartment last Friday, wasn't he? 310 00:16:17,651 --> 00:16:18,913 Yeah. 311 00:16:19,419 --> 00:16:21,614 I didn't tell Zack, 'cause he'd just get mad. 312 00:16:22,122 --> 00:16:23,521 So he didn't know? 313 00:16:24,891 --> 00:16:26,415 About an hour after he left... 314 00:16:26,860 --> 00:16:30,421 I heard someone at the door, like they were trying to get a key in a lock. 315 00:16:30,931 --> 00:16:32,455 And I heard kids whispering. 316 00:16:32,532 --> 00:16:35,296 Could you tell how many there were? I don't know, a couple. 317 00:16:35,836 --> 00:16:39,567 I guess they must've heard me, 'cause I saw the one kid, Johnny, running away. 318 00:16:39,773 --> 00:16:41,035 You'd seen him before? 319 00:16:41,608 --> 00:16:42,836 Yeah. 320 00:16:43,977 --> 00:16:45,569 Hey, you know, about four weeks ago... 321 00:16:45,646 --> 00:16:47,739 someone ripped off some of our equipment. 322 00:16:48,382 --> 00:16:50,043 No breaking, just entering. 323 00:16:50,684 --> 00:16:52,379 Zack figured it was his ex. 324 00:16:53,053 --> 00:16:54,645 We changed the locks. 325 00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:57,089 No one ever thought about the kid. 326 00:17:03,798 --> 00:17:07,700 Now, if she's telling the truth, it means the angels with dirty faces aren't. 327 00:17:08,302 --> 00:17:10,133 Thieves who lie, color me shocked. 328 00:17:10,838 --> 00:17:13,033 Yeah. No, go ahead. 329 00:17:14,509 --> 00:17:15,498 Uh-huh. 330 00:17:15,777 --> 00:17:16,937 Anything else? 331 00:17:17,912 --> 00:17:19,004 All right, thanks. 332 00:17:20,214 --> 00:17:22,614 Johnny's little foster brother, Chris Pollit... 333 00:17:22,884 --> 00:17:24,283 did time at Spofford. 334 00:17:24,352 --> 00:17:26,115 Now, his records are sealed... 335 00:17:26,387 --> 00:17:29,288 but he had some months added on for bad behavior. 336 00:17:30,758 --> 00:17:32,282 So let's go rattle their cages. 337 00:17:33,594 --> 00:17:35,084 Come on, Chris... 338 00:17:35,530 --> 00:17:38,829 we know you weren't eating pizza on Dyckman Street that night. 339 00:17:39,233 --> 00:17:42,032 You were at the other end of town, with your friend Johnny. 340 00:17:43,305 --> 00:17:46,103 Wasn't me. We got a witness who puts you with him. 341 00:17:46,608 --> 00:17:49,702 Maybe Johnny was hanging out with his Lower East Side homeboys. 342 00:17:49,778 --> 00:17:50,870 Hey, Kreskin... 343 00:17:50,946 --> 00:17:53,346 how did you know he was on the Lower East Side? 344 00:17:59,354 --> 00:18:00,912 You said. Nobody said. 345 00:18:00,989 --> 00:18:02,581 Well, somebody did, 'cause I heard it. 346 00:18:03,792 --> 00:18:06,454 It's getting tough keeping all the lies straight, isn't it? 347 00:18:06,795 --> 00:18:09,628 Look, kid, we don't care about your little burglary, okay? 348 00:18:09,698 --> 00:18:11,859 And we don't care that you went back for seconds. 349 00:18:11,934 --> 00:18:16,200 All we're interested in is what happened after you left Zack's apartment. 350 00:18:17,973 --> 00:18:21,932 Yo, Brylcreem, why don't you and Captain America go blow it out your butt? 351 00:18:28,952 --> 00:18:31,250 I can tell when my son's lying. 352 00:18:31,721 --> 00:18:33,188 You're pretty good at it. 353 00:18:33,656 --> 00:18:35,783 I'll bet you put a lot over on your mom, huh? 354 00:18:35,859 --> 00:18:37,520 She's passed out most times. 355 00:18:37,627 --> 00:18:39,185 How about Mrs. Bishop? 356 00:18:39,562 --> 00:18:41,154 She easy to fool? 357 00:18:45,001 --> 00:18:47,561 You know, it says on your sheet you stayed with her... 358 00:18:48,138 --> 00:18:51,665 four times in the past six years. She must know you pretty well. 359 00:18:53,276 --> 00:18:54,368 Anybody thirsty? 360 00:18:54,444 --> 00:18:57,743 Andy here was telling me how much he likes staying at Mrs. Bishop's. 361 00:18:57,947 --> 00:18:59,141 Oh, yeah? 362 00:18:59,516 --> 00:19:01,347 That's too bad... 363 00:19:01,484 --> 00:19:04,317 'cause his friend Chris just finished telling us that Mrs. Bishop... 364 00:19:04,387 --> 00:19:07,185 fenced the sound equipment that him and his buddy Johnny stole. 365 00:19:07,323 --> 00:19:09,315 Really? Yeah. You sure? 366 00:19:10,461 --> 00:19:13,191 Yeah, seems Johnny was gonna rat on them... 367 00:19:13,464 --> 00:19:15,329 and the old lady had him killed. 368 00:19:15,733 --> 00:19:16,859 Murder... 369 00:19:16,934 --> 00:19:19,232 trafficking in stolen goods... 370 00:19:19,303 --> 00:19:21,168 delinquency of minors. 371 00:19:21,505 --> 00:19:23,200 That's pretty serious stuff. 372 00:19:26,477 --> 00:19:27,705 He's lying. 373 00:19:28,045 --> 00:19:29,706 She don't have nothing to do with it. 374 00:19:29,847 --> 00:19:31,280 He's the one. 375 00:19:31,949 --> 00:19:34,008 Better get the foster mother down here. 376 00:19:34,418 --> 00:19:36,409 And someone from the D.A.'s office. 377 00:19:42,893 --> 00:19:45,327 Okay, from the beginning, Andy. 378 00:19:46,931 --> 00:19:49,092 Johnny thought that if he could get up some money... 379 00:19:49,166 --> 00:19:51,863 him and his mother could afford an apartment. 380 00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:54,732 And the first time in Zack's apartment, you were with him? 381 00:19:54,873 --> 00:19:56,534 He still had his old key. It was easy. 382 00:19:56,608 --> 00:19:59,168 But the second time, you ran into problems. 383 00:19:59,411 --> 00:20:00,776 It was a bad idea. 384 00:20:01,213 --> 00:20:02,237 But Johnny... 385 00:20:02,314 --> 00:20:03,474 he needed the money... 386 00:20:03,548 --> 00:20:05,539 and there wasn't any left from the first score. 387 00:20:05,617 --> 00:20:07,380 What, did he have holes in his pockets? 388 00:20:07,686 --> 00:20:08,948 It was Chris. 389 00:20:09,354 --> 00:20:11,049 He was supposed to fence the stuff. 390 00:20:11,556 --> 00:20:13,046 Instead, he spent it... 391 00:20:13,258 --> 00:20:15,123 on clothes, and boots... 392 00:20:15,827 --> 00:20:17,795 shades, junk like that. 393 00:20:18,096 --> 00:20:19,620 So what happened Friday night? 394 00:20:23,802 --> 00:20:24,962 Well... 395 00:20:25,036 --> 00:20:27,596 we heard someone inside, and we took off. 396 00:20:28,940 --> 00:20:30,567 Then Chris blamed Johnny... 397 00:20:30,642 --> 00:20:32,132 and they started to fight. 398 00:20:33,478 --> 00:20:36,744 Chris went nuts. I mean, I never seen him like this before... 399 00:20:37,550 --> 00:20:38,915 and kicked the hell out of him. 400 00:20:39,719 --> 00:20:42,210 He had this look in his eyes... 401 00:20:42,788 --> 00:20:44,585 like he wasn't even there. 402 00:20:46,158 --> 00:20:47,557 Then after we left... 403 00:20:49,195 --> 00:20:50,992 he was shaking all over. 404 00:20:51,797 --> 00:20:53,458 He was in his own zone. 405 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:56,258 Even I was afraid to look at him. 406 00:20:56,636 --> 00:20:59,366 And, I mean, my dad used to beat me all the time... 407 00:21:00,539 --> 00:21:02,200 but I've never seen anything like that. 408 00:21:07,747 --> 00:21:08,736 Look... 409 00:21:08,948 --> 00:21:11,280 I'm the first to admit this kid is no Andy Hardy... 410 00:21:11,384 --> 00:21:14,581 but if he's tried as a juvenile, at least there's a hope of rehabilitation. 411 00:21:14,654 --> 00:21:16,383 He brutally murdered his friend, Helen... 412 00:21:16,455 --> 00:21:18,616 and you want me to send him to his bed without dinner? 413 00:21:18,691 --> 00:21:20,523 The state tried that once. It didn't work. 414 00:21:20,594 --> 00:21:24,121 If he's over 14 years of age, the presumption is he's tried as an adult. 415 00:21:24,231 --> 00:21:27,029 And we both know that that presumption is rebuttable. 416 00:21:27,134 --> 00:21:29,694 I'm just asking for compassion, Ben. 417 00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:31,294 He's a kid, for God's sake. 418 00:21:31,371 --> 00:21:32,895 So was John Lasky. 419 00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:37,570 I'll see you at the hearing. 420 00:21:39,646 --> 00:21:42,410 By the way, it's been assigned to Judge Kershan. 421 00:21:47,220 --> 00:21:48,448 Judge Kershan? 422 00:21:48,522 --> 00:21:49,853 She spent at least six years... 423 00:21:49,923 --> 00:21:52,824 as Chairman of the Bar Association Committee on Children's Rights. 424 00:21:52,926 --> 00:21:55,656 It's not easy to get a case remanded to Family Court. 425 00:21:55,963 --> 00:21:57,362 The burden's still on the defense. 426 00:21:57,431 --> 00:21:59,626 Well, the burden just got a lot lighter for them. 427 00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:03,101 So we better find out all there is to know about young Mr. Pollit. 428 00:22:05,139 --> 00:22:07,835 You actually expect me to help you send Chris to jail? 429 00:22:08,042 --> 00:22:10,977 He murdered John. I can't imagine you wanting to protect him. 430 00:22:11,446 --> 00:22:13,107 Maybe it's time somebody did. 431 00:22:13,414 --> 00:22:15,177 I'd like to protect him from his mother... 432 00:22:15,249 --> 00:22:17,547 who rented the boy out by the hour to some pervert... 433 00:22:17,618 --> 00:22:20,382 when hooking didn't bring in enough money to pay her rent. 434 00:22:20,922 --> 00:22:22,787 And how about those doctors at Bellevue... 435 00:22:22,857 --> 00:22:25,655 that doped the boy up on Thorazine for over a year? 436 00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:29,388 And those three foster families, lovely people, they were. 437 00:22:29,731 --> 00:22:33,132 Took him in and used the stipend for big TV screens... 438 00:22:33,634 --> 00:22:36,398 and trips to Aruba, while the boy had barely enough to eat. 439 00:22:36,471 --> 00:22:38,302 So you don't think he should be punished? 440 00:22:38,373 --> 00:22:40,603 I think he's been punished enough. 441 00:22:42,076 --> 00:22:43,270 I lived with him. 442 00:22:43,878 --> 00:22:45,004 I had dinner with him. 443 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:47,013 I got the boy ready for school. 444 00:22:47,315 --> 00:22:49,443 I don't know what snapped... 445 00:22:49,518 --> 00:22:52,043 but I do know that's not all there is to Chris. 446 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:56,824 What can you tell me about his year at Spofford? 447 00:22:57,126 --> 00:22:58,457 Miss Kincaid... 448 00:22:58,527 --> 00:23:01,690 I have a toaster. It breaks, I don't toss it into the trash can. 449 00:23:01,764 --> 00:23:03,061 I call the repair man. 450 00:23:03,132 --> 00:23:04,759 I'm not suggesting- Oh, I know... 451 00:23:04,833 --> 00:23:07,495 you only have his best interests in mind. 452 00:23:08,103 --> 00:23:11,937 But if Chris Pollit goes to Attica, you and I both know he's not coming out. 453 00:23:12,841 --> 00:23:14,672 The judge sealed the records. 454 00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:17,509 Why should I tell you anything? 455 00:23:21,450 --> 00:23:23,748 So he stepped in it bad. 456 00:23:24,887 --> 00:23:26,411 Should I be surprised? 457 00:23:26,488 --> 00:23:29,753 Maybe not. Your son did spend a year in Spofford. 458 00:23:29,892 --> 00:23:31,018 A year? 459 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:37,666 I guess they're right. Parents are the last to know. 460 00:23:41,805 --> 00:23:44,774 If you haven't noticed, Chris is not my problem anymore. 461 00:23:45,241 --> 00:23:46,265 Was he ever? 462 00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:50,210 What do you think, just 'cause I didn't go to Miss Porter's I didn't love my kid? 463 00:23:50,313 --> 00:23:53,146 Well, the state found it necessary to take him away from you. 464 00:23:53,650 --> 00:23:55,709 I left him alone for a couple of hours a day. 465 00:23:55,785 --> 00:23:58,549 Some pervert downstairs gets ahold of him, that's my fault? 466 00:23:58,621 --> 00:23:59,849 Where's his father? 467 00:24:00,790 --> 00:24:04,692 Jack's in lovely downtown Attica for another 5-to-15. 468 00:24:08,631 --> 00:24:10,895 Look, maybe I screwed up with Chris. 469 00:24:11,434 --> 00:24:13,959 What did I know about kids? I was a kid myself. 470 00:24:14,037 --> 00:24:15,698 And now you know better. 471 00:24:16,807 --> 00:24:19,071 I got as much right to be a mother as anyone else. 472 00:24:19,143 --> 00:24:20,542 And what right does your kid have? 473 00:24:20,611 --> 00:24:24,069 You got an education. You got a job. This is all I got. 474 00:24:27,017 --> 00:24:29,747 Nobody's taking this baby away from me. 475 00:24:31,088 --> 00:24:33,522 When I was 14 years old, I had a fight... 476 00:24:33,657 --> 00:24:35,557 with Joe Dworkin. I pushed him. 477 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,589 He retaliated by throwing my Spaldine down the sewer. 478 00:24:40,164 --> 00:24:41,722 Kids killing kids. 479 00:24:41,832 --> 00:24:45,131 You bounce around the system long enough, you grow up a lot quicker. 480 00:24:45,469 --> 00:24:46,493 Meaning what? 481 00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:49,198 If his mother's any indication, he never had a chance. 482 00:24:49,273 --> 00:24:51,104 And the system only made the problem worse. 483 00:24:51,208 --> 00:24:52,937 He had four years with Florence Bishop. 484 00:24:53,010 --> 00:24:55,945 She's the best the system has to offer. It didn't make any difference. 485 00:24:56,013 --> 00:24:58,311 And for all we know, this may be his first violent offense. 486 00:24:58,382 --> 00:25:02,114 Well, why does our Mr. Pollit deserve two bites at the apple? 487 00:25:02,187 --> 00:25:04,621 Because he's not even 15 years old. 488 00:25:06,791 --> 00:25:09,487 Okay, find a way to open the kid's file. 489 00:25:11,163 --> 00:25:13,097 If his first offense was non-violent... 490 00:25:13,798 --> 00:25:17,461 let Helen Brolin do her song and dance in Family Court. 491 00:25:21,173 --> 00:25:23,368 I thought your job was putting the bad guys in jail. 492 00:25:23,642 --> 00:25:26,236 I just want to make sure he goes to the right jail. 493 00:25:26,311 --> 00:25:29,769 From what I've read, Chris Pollit should be riding the ferry on the river Styx. 494 00:25:30,315 --> 00:25:32,783 Seems you're getting a little soft in your old age, Claire. 495 00:25:32,851 --> 00:25:34,910 Seems you're getting a little callous in yours. 496 00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:37,181 Hey, I'm a lawyer, not a social worker. 497 00:25:37,255 --> 00:25:39,883 I represent the little buggers. Doesn't mean I have to like them. 498 00:25:41,226 --> 00:25:42,989 Tell me about youthful offender hearings. 499 00:25:43,094 --> 00:25:46,121 Sure. That's where we dress them up in their Sunday best... 500 00:25:46,199 --> 00:25:47,632 clean their fingernails... 501 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:49,395 and teach them to cry a lot while saying: 502 00:25:49,468 --> 00:25:51,629 "I didn't do it, and I swear I won't do it again." 503 00:25:51,904 --> 00:25:53,303 Can we introduce priors? 504 00:25:53,372 --> 00:25:55,306 An often overlooked statute requires... 505 00:25:55,374 --> 00:25:57,365 that the judge consider all relevant factors... 506 00:25:57,443 --> 00:25:59,343 even if they're not admissible at trial. 507 00:25:59,412 --> 00:26:00,879 Even if the records are sealed? 508 00:26:01,214 --> 00:26:05,514 Anything goes, as long as it bears on the little angel's history and or character. 509 00:26:05,718 --> 00:26:08,846 And the best part, none of it can later be used at trial. 510 00:26:08,988 --> 00:26:10,683 Not even a confession. 511 00:26:11,591 --> 00:26:14,651 You're awful cynical for a children's rights attorney. 512 00:26:16,028 --> 00:26:17,620 I'm just being pragmatic. 513 00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:19,061 "The child is father of the man." 514 00:26:19,131 --> 00:26:21,656 I gotta live in this city when these kids grow up. 515 00:26:26,739 --> 00:26:29,265 Johnny and I always got along pretty good before. I mean... 516 00:26:30,043 --> 00:26:32,307 we never got into a fight, or anything like that. 517 00:26:32,379 --> 00:26:33,869 In your own words, Chris... 518 00:26:34,248 --> 00:26:37,149 tell us what you remember about your fight with John Lasky. 519 00:26:38,885 --> 00:26:40,716 He started getting down on Mom. 520 00:26:40,787 --> 00:26:43,312 You know, he called her a whore, stuff like that. 521 00:26:43,957 --> 00:26:45,254 Did you tell him to stop? 522 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,123 Yeah, me and Andy both, but he just wouldn't let it go. 523 00:26:48,729 --> 00:26:50,196 So what happened then? 524 00:26:53,433 --> 00:26:54,798 I don't remember. 525 00:26:56,536 --> 00:26:58,231 You don't remember the fight at all? 526 00:26:58,872 --> 00:27:01,773 I remember crying on the subway back to Miss Bishop's. 527 00:27:02,709 --> 00:27:05,200 And how do you feel about that now, Chris? 528 00:27:10,017 --> 00:27:11,678 I wish it didn't happen. 529 00:27:14,756 --> 00:27:16,553 I mean, I don't want to hurt nobody. 530 00:27:23,865 --> 00:27:26,425 Young man, who is Brian North? 531 00:27:26,501 --> 00:27:27,968 Objection. Irrelevant. 532 00:27:28,036 --> 00:27:29,560 You know better than that, Counselor. 533 00:27:30,071 --> 00:27:32,232 Answer the question, son. 534 00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:35,198 He's a kid I used to know. 535 00:27:35,410 --> 00:27:38,072 Didn't he cut in line in front of you at Spofford... 536 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,905 and you smashed him right in the face... 537 00:27:41,249 --> 00:27:42,580 with your tray? 538 00:27:43,284 --> 00:27:44,444 He pushed me. 539 00:27:44,686 --> 00:27:46,176 But didn't you kick him... 540 00:27:46,721 --> 00:27:49,656 and keep kicking him until he was unconscious? 541 00:27:49,791 --> 00:27:52,123 Your Honor, when he's in a normal environment... 542 00:27:52,193 --> 00:27:53,990 he's had no violent episodes. 543 00:27:54,929 --> 00:27:56,157 Mr. Pollit... 544 00:27:56,731 --> 00:27:59,496 why were you placed in Spofford in the first place? 545 00:28:01,570 --> 00:28:04,198 I was with a bunch of guys. We robbed a deli. 546 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,169 And you were armed, right? 547 00:28:07,576 --> 00:28:08,736 Isn't that true? 548 00:28:12,181 --> 00:28:14,775 Mr. Pollit, isn't that true? 549 00:28:17,252 --> 00:28:18,241 Yes. 550 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,754 Your Honor, there was no money in the store... 551 00:28:20,889 --> 00:28:22,652 and Mr. Pollit got mad... 552 00:28:23,058 --> 00:28:25,253 and he shot the owner with a. 22. 553 00:28:32,334 --> 00:28:34,165 This case must be special. 554 00:28:34,236 --> 00:28:37,433 Judge Kershan removes nine out of ten cases to Family Court. 555 00:28:37,539 --> 00:28:39,871 Three violent episodes that we know of so far. 556 00:28:39,942 --> 00:28:42,036 She had no choice but to try him as an adult. 557 00:28:44,214 --> 00:28:45,875 Wait until you see this. 558 00:28:46,783 --> 00:28:48,307 Brolin's notice of her intent... 559 00:28:48,385 --> 00:28:51,752 to plead Chris not guilty by reason of mental defect. 560 00:28:55,024 --> 00:28:57,288 He testified that he knew what he did was wrong. 561 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,588 He expressed remorse. 562 00:28:58,661 --> 00:29:01,095 She'll never get out of the gate with an insanity defense. 563 00:29:01,164 --> 00:29:03,223 Well, she's not claiming he's insane. 564 00:29:03,833 --> 00:29:05,733 She's claiming he's not responsible... 565 00:29:05,802 --> 00:29:08,703 because he's genetically predisposed to violent behavior. 566 00:29:08,772 --> 00:29:11,468 Most of his blood relations are incarcerated for violent crimes. 567 00:29:11,541 --> 00:29:13,771 The sins of the father are visited upon the son? 568 00:29:13,843 --> 00:29:15,777 That is not a defense for murder. 569 00:29:15,845 --> 00:29:17,972 Well, you say it's nurture, Brolin says it's nature. 570 00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:19,344 And what's our plan? 571 00:29:19,416 --> 00:29:22,681 We have a conference tomorrow in chambers to see what Judge Kershan says. 572 00:29:23,753 --> 00:29:25,984 Ever since Mendel, at the turn of the century... 573 00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:30,026 scientists have seen a direct relation between genetics and human behavior. 574 00:29:30,094 --> 00:29:31,584 And most of those scientists... 575 00:29:31,662 --> 00:29:34,563 goose-stepped their way through the streets of Berlin in the I940s. 576 00:29:34,732 --> 00:29:38,259 Very dramatic image, Ben, but unfortunately, misinformed. 577 00:29:38,969 --> 00:29:43,702 Researchers in our own back yard have identified the XYY chromosome male... 578 00:29:44,008 --> 00:29:46,499 as being predisposed to criminal behavior. 579 00:29:46,644 --> 00:29:49,340 Are you saying this kid has an extra Y chromosome? 580 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,505 Verified by the Tyler-Hampton Clinic. 581 00:29:51,582 --> 00:29:53,345 He also has blonde hair and brown eyes. 582 00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:55,544 Should we allow that as a defense for murder, as well? 583 00:29:55,619 --> 00:30:00,022 If there's a relation between that and aggressive anti-social behavior, yes. 584 00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:02,418 There is no proof that the XYY male... 585 00:30:02,493 --> 00:30:05,053 is predisposed to any kind of behavior, Your Honor. 586 00:30:05,129 --> 00:30:06,391 Frye v. U.S. 587 00:30:06,464 --> 00:30:08,864 Scientific evidence is only admissible... 588 00:30:08,966 --> 00:30:11,458 when it is generally accepted by the scientific community. 589 00:30:11,536 --> 00:30:14,835 Well, show me one scientist who doesn't accept the laws of genetics. 590 00:30:15,106 --> 00:30:18,598 The Frye case says nothing about the conclusions drawn from those laws. 591 00:30:18,777 --> 00:30:20,176 Richard Speck? 592 00:30:20,278 --> 00:30:23,008 Didn't he try this XYY chromosome defense? 593 00:30:23,081 --> 00:30:24,673 And the judge threw it out, Your Honor. 594 00:30:24,749 --> 00:30:27,616 Yes, that's because Speck didn't have the extra Y chromosome. 595 00:30:27,686 --> 00:30:31,315 No court that we know of has ever accepted this defense. 596 00:30:31,656 --> 00:30:35,183 Your Honor, we can fill the courtroom with experts who'll say this is nonsense. 597 00:30:35,327 --> 00:30:37,488 And we'll see if the jury believes them. 598 00:30:39,164 --> 00:30:41,792 What is next, Helen, the astrological defense? 599 00:30:41,867 --> 00:30:44,529 Jupiter aligned with Mars, so I had to rob a bank? 600 00:30:44,736 --> 00:30:47,170 If it gets my client the justice he deserves, why not? 601 00:30:47,239 --> 00:30:49,434 You don't think people are responsible for their actions? 602 00:30:49,508 --> 00:30:52,409 Sure. I read Sartre in college. 603 00:30:52,611 --> 00:30:54,375 I also read Freud. 604 00:30:54,514 --> 00:30:57,972 Chris Pollit's life was determined for him before he hit the age of six. 605 00:30:58,184 --> 00:31:01,119 Maybe. But not before he was born. Look, Ben... 606 00:31:01,687 --> 00:31:04,281 I present even the smallest slice of Chris's home life... 607 00:31:04,357 --> 00:31:05,881 the jury starts bawling. 608 00:31:05,958 --> 00:31:08,722 So what does that get me? Maybe a Man One conviction. 609 00:31:08,928 --> 00:31:12,796 I start hitting them with genes and chromosomes, I got a shot at an acquittal. 610 00:31:12,865 --> 00:31:14,628 And that's what's best for Chris? No. 611 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:16,964 What's best is transferring this to Family Court. 612 00:31:17,036 --> 00:31:19,834 Helen, you had the opportunity for that. You didn't meet the burden. 613 00:31:19,906 --> 00:31:24,775 Yeah, well, it's a lot easier to confuse a jury, than it is to convince a judge. 614 00:31:29,248 --> 00:31:31,580 This is dumb. Humor me, Chris. 615 00:31:32,351 --> 00:31:33,545 What would you do? 616 00:31:34,587 --> 00:31:36,350 I'd tell the teacher she was stupid. 617 00:31:36,989 --> 00:31:38,389 Why is she stupid? 618 00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:42,385 Because the other kid was cheating off me, I wasn't cheating off him. 619 00:31:42,496 --> 00:31:44,794 But the teacher said she saw you. 620 00:31:45,399 --> 00:31:47,230 I told you, she's stupid. 621 00:31:49,202 --> 00:31:50,692 Does that make you angry? 622 00:31:53,574 --> 00:31:55,701 If I got in trouble, sure. 623 00:31:56,810 --> 00:31:58,209 And what would you do? 624 00:31:59,513 --> 00:32:01,538 Beat the hell out of the kid. 625 00:32:02,783 --> 00:32:04,546 You think you'd try to kill him? 626 00:32:09,156 --> 00:32:11,522 I get mad, I don't know what I'd do. 627 00:32:12,826 --> 00:32:15,124 You think that's what happened with John Lasky? 628 00:32:20,167 --> 00:32:21,759 I liked Johnny. I mean... 629 00:32:22,370 --> 00:32:23,837 he sort of cracked me up. 630 00:32:25,139 --> 00:32:28,040 It's not like I wanted to kill him or anything. 631 00:32:29,410 --> 00:32:30,968 He just got me mad. 632 00:32:33,581 --> 00:32:35,674 There's no question he knows what he did was wrong. 633 00:32:35,817 --> 00:32:37,978 He's aware of the consequences. He feels remorse. 634 00:32:38,052 --> 00:32:40,145 So he's not legally insane? 635 00:32:40,655 --> 00:32:44,091 The problem is, when sufficiently provoked, he loses control. 636 00:32:44,192 --> 00:32:46,752 Liz, you don't think there's any validity... 637 00:32:46,894 --> 00:32:49,362 to this XYY chromosome theory? 638 00:32:49,497 --> 00:32:51,124 Current thinking among geneticists... 639 00:32:51,199 --> 00:32:54,828 is that the extra Y chromosome causes a slight increase in height. 640 00:32:55,036 --> 00:32:58,130 There's no evidence of any causal connection to criminal behavior. 641 00:32:58,206 --> 00:33:01,573 So all he's really got is a homicidal temper, right? 642 00:33:01,709 --> 00:33:04,269 There's a lot we don't know about the brain. 643 00:33:04,379 --> 00:33:06,370 Liz, keep this out of the shadows. 644 00:33:06,649 --> 00:33:08,879 Is he responsible for what he did? 645 00:33:09,251 --> 00:33:11,947 With all the scientific data available at this time... 646 00:33:12,421 --> 00:33:13,479 yes. 647 00:33:17,192 --> 00:33:21,026 There were hematomas on his arms, legs, chest, back, and face. 648 00:33:21,263 --> 00:33:23,026 Three ribs were fractured. 649 00:33:23,098 --> 00:33:25,658 Vertebrae displaced in the spinal column. 650 00:33:25,868 --> 00:33:28,462 The actual cause of death was internal hemorrhaging. 651 00:33:28,771 --> 00:33:32,502 Doctor, could you determine if the victim was unconscious... 652 00:33:32,775 --> 00:33:33,901 during the beating? 653 00:33:33,976 --> 00:33:35,967 From the amount of cranial bleeding and bruising... 654 00:33:36,045 --> 00:33:38,206 I would say that, no... 655 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,214 he had to be conscious at the time. 656 00:33:40,282 --> 00:33:44,082 So then it is possible that John Lasky was screaming... 657 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:46,617 while he was being savagely beaten? 658 00:33:46,922 --> 00:33:49,618 Any objections, Ms. Brolin? No, Your Honor. 659 00:33:50,025 --> 00:33:52,859 Well, I can't imagine that anyone could sustain such a beating... 660 00:33:52,929 --> 00:33:54,658 and not cry out in pain. 661 00:33:54,964 --> 00:33:56,022 Thank you. 662 00:33:59,536 --> 00:34:02,027 Was the victim already on the sidewalk... 663 00:34:02,138 --> 00:34:04,163 when the severest part of the beating occurred? 664 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,336 From the pattern of the bruising, it would appear he had to be prostrate, yes. 665 00:34:08,712 --> 00:34:10,771 So there he was, Johnny Lasky... 666 00:34:10,847 --> 00:34:13,179 13 years old, lying on the sidewalk... 667 00:34:13,249 --> 00:34:16,980 screaming in pain, and what did the defendant do? 668 00:34:17,387 --> 00:34:18,911 He kept on kicking. 669 00:34:19,155 --> 00:34:23,615 Would you characterize this beating as savage, Doctor? 670 00:34:24,060 --> 00:34:25,288 Yes. 671 00:34:25,528 --> 00:34:27,018 Inhuman? 672 00:34:27,130 --> 00:34:28,188 Yes. 673 00:34:28,264 --> 00:34:31,165 Like someone not in control was doing it? Objection. 674 00:34:31,234 --> 00:34:32,531 Sustained. 675 00:34:33,036 --> 00:34:37,269 The defendant was definitely cognizant of the difference between right and wrong. 676 00:34:37,408 --> 00:34:38,966 But more importantly... 677 00:34:39,043 --> 00:34:42,740 he's able to analyze his own behavior in terms of societal norms. 678 00:34:42,813 --> 00:34:45,782 Did Mr. Pollit tell you that he heard voices... 679 00:34:46,217 --> 00:34:47,377 telling him... 680 00:34:47,651 --> 00:34:48,982 to kill John Lasky? 681 00:34:49,186 --> 00:34:51,245 No. He's not schizophrenic. 682 00:34:51,989 --> 00:34:53,820 Doctor, please tell the court... 683 00:34:54,058 --> 00:34:55,685 what you know... 684 00:34:55,826 --> 00:34:58,624 about the XYY male syndrome. 685 00:34:58,863 --> 00:35:00,353 It arose in the '60s. 686 00:35:00,431 --> 00:35:04,925 Geneticists tried to correlate the existence of an extra Y chromosome in men... 687 00:35:05,002 --> 00:35:07,903 to aggressive, antisocial behavior. 688 00:35:08,139 --> 00:35:09,902 And what became of this theory? 689 00:35:10,241 --> 00:35:13,699 To date, there's no proof that there's any validity to it. 690 00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:14,802 Thank you. 691 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,148 Doctor, isn't it true that some psychiatrists believe... 692 00:35:19,217 --> 00:35:21,481 that depression is passed on genetically? 693 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:24,521 Well, it is commonly found to occur in families. 694 00:35:24,589 --> 00:35:27,057 And what about schizophrenia? Yes. 695 00:35:27,225 --> 00:35:28,783 So why would it be so unbelievable... 696 00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:31,795 that we may pass on criminal behavior to our children? 697 00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:33,930 Because there's no scientific evidence... 698 00:35:33,999 --> 00:35:36,934 that criminal behavior is anything but learned. 699 00:35:37,002 --> 00:35:39,630 All the data supporting the XYY male syndrome... 700 00:35:39,704 --> 00:35:41,137 was dismissed in the '70s... 701 00:35:41,206 --> 00:35:43,299 because the pools from which the samples were taken... 702 00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:47,277 were not sufficiently random to form cohesive scientific conclusions. 703 00:35:47,345 --> 00:35:48,437 So what you're saying is... 704 00:35:48,513 --> 00:35:51,607 that there was a problem with the methodology, not the theory. 705 00:35:54,252 --> 00:35:56,914 Our lab ran karyotype tests on the defendant... 706 00:35:56,988 --> 00:36:00,219 and there's no question that he has a second Y chromosome. 707 00:36:00,292 --> 00:36:03,421 And has your lab studied the effects of this chromosomal anomaly? 708 00:36:03,496 --> 00:36:06,192 Certainly, and it definitely appears to occur... 709 00:36:06,265 --> 00:36:10,463 to a higher degree in members of the prison population than in the general public. 710 00:36:10,837 --> 00:36:13,032 And what does that indicate, Doctor? 711 00:36:13,105 --> 00:36:17,132 The extra Y chromosome relates to criminal behavior. 712 00:36:17,376 --> 00:36:20,277 So, Doctor, if this behavior is genetic... 713 00:36:20,379 --> 00:36:22,939 would you also say that it was uncontrollable? 714 00:36:23,049 --> 00:36:25,040 No more controllable than your height. 715 00:36:25,151 --> 00:36:26,277 Thank you, Doctor. 716 00:36:29,188 --> 00:36:31,554 Doctor, as I understand it... 717 00:36:31,624 --> 00:36:32,989 you have found... 718 00:36:33,059 --> 00:36:35,152 in the general population at large... 719 00:36:35,228 --> 00:36:37,992 people like you and I, who have this... 720 00:36:38,164 --> 00:36:40,496 extra Y chromosome, correct? Yes. 721 00:36:40,766 --> 00:36:42,529 Are they leading productive lives? 722 00:36:43,002 --> 00:36:44,401 I couldn't say. 723 00:36:45,571 --> 00:36:48,564 Well, then let me rephrase the question, okay? 724 00:36:50,177 --> 00:36:52,805 In your files, is there evidence that they exhibit... 725 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,110 aggressive, homicidal... 726 00:36:55,315 --> 00:36:56,805 sociopathic behavior? 727 00:36:56,884 --> 00:36:58,078 I suppose not. 728 00:36:58,151 --> 00:36:59,846 So then isn't it true... 729 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,788 that your testing hasn't even come close to proving... 730 00:37:04,057 --> 00:37:06,890 that this chromosomal anomaly... 731 00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:08,550 has any effect on behavior? 732 00:37:08,629 --> 00:37:10,494 My study is not yet completed. 733 00:37:10,564 --> 00:37:12,156 You should have told the court that... 734 00:37:12,232 --> 00:37:13,893 when you arrived. Objection! 735 00:37:13,967 --> 00:37:15,264 Withdrawn. 736 00:37:18,839 --> 00:37:21,831 Head of the local chapter of the White America Caucus... 737 00:37:22,376 --> 00:37:24,537 has taken up Brolin's cause. 738 00:37:24,611 --> 00:37:25,873 Letter to the editor: 739 00:37:26,246 --> 00:37:27,713 "It's a known fact... 740 00:37:28,048 --> 00:37:30,812 "that genetics is the cause of violence... 741 00:37:30,884 --> 00:37:33,217 "and feeble-mindedness in the black man." 742 00:37:34,789 --> 00:37:38,919 Do you think educated people actually buy this XYY chromosome theory? 743 00:37:38,993 --> 00:37:40,585 Well, no one wants to think... 744 00:37:40,662 --> 00:37:42,857 that their society produces monsters... 745 00:37:42,931 --> 00:37:46,458 like Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, or Chris Pollit. 746 00:37:47,135 --> 00:37:49,626 Brolin paints a bad enough picture... 747 00:37:50,405 --> 00:37:53,602 the jury convinces itself the kid can't be normal. 748 00:37:54,842 --> 00:37:57,606 The defense has added Chris's mother to their witness list. 749 00:37:57,812 --> 00:37:59,279 Oh, great. 750 00:37:59,447 --> 00:38:03,884 Now we'll hear stories about the poor baby torturing puppies during nap time. 751 00:38:09,123 --> 00:38:11,819 From the day he was born, we knew Chris was... 752 00:38:13,661 --> 00:38:14,889 different. 753 00:38:17,466 --> 00:38:18,899 Please go on, Mrs. Pollit. 754 00:38:20,169 --> 00:38:21,568 He never cried. 755 00:38:22,838 --> 00:38:25,500 We thought maybe he was deaf or dumb. We didn't know. 756 00:38:26,775 --> 00:38:29,642 When he was four, I took one of his toys away. 757 00:38:30,212 --> 00:38:33,010 He went crazy and came at me with a knife. 758 00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:35,139 Where is Chris' father now? 759 00:38:35,584 --> 00:38:37,017 He's in Attica. 760 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,510 And why is he in prison? 761 00:38:41,023 --> 00:38:43,389 Jack attacked the mailman with a hammer. 762 00:38:44,193 --> 00:38:47,094 And is he the only family member in prison? 763 00:38:47,496 --> 00:38:49,760 Jack's brother, Chris' uncle... 764 00:38:49,898 --> 00:38:51,763 is serving life for murder. 765 00:38:52,267 --> 00:38:53,666 Thank you, Mrs. Pollit. 766 00:38:55,637 --> 00:38:56,899 Mrs. Pollit... 767 00:38:58,307 --> 00:39:01,175 did you try to discipline Chris at all? 768 00:39:01,411 --> 00:39:03,174 Jack hit him all the time. 769 00:39:03,847 --> 00:39:05,007 It didn't help. 770 00:39:05,248 --> 00:39:06,977 So you just gave up on him? 771 00:39:09,452 --> 00:39:11,613 I used to think it was my fault... 772 00:39:13,223 --> 00:39:15,555 but I didn't know about this gene stuff. 773 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,923 The gene stuff, right? 774 00:39:20,063 --> 00:39:21,121 Do you believe it? 775 00:39:21,197 --> 00:39:23,927 Do you believe that Chris inherited... 776 00:39:24,334 --> 00:39:27,895 his criminal behavior, and, as such, he's totally incapable... 777 00:39:28,038 --> 00:39:29,232 of changing? 778 00:39:29,339 --> 00:39:31,204 Well, there's nothing I could do about it. 779 00:39:31,274 --> 00:39:33,367 But if there was, you would do something about it? 780 00:39:33,443 --> 00:39:34,535 Sure. 781 00:39:36,012 --> 00:39:39,106 How many months pregnant are you, Mrs. Pollit? 782 00:39:39,249 --> 00:39:40,273 Five. 783 00:39:40,450 --> 00:39:44,251 Has it ever occurred to you that you might be carrying a killer? 784 00:39:47,625 --> 00:39:49,957 What, do you think I want another one like him? 785 00:39:50,027 --> 00:39:53,428 I don't know, Mrs. Pollit. But if he is like Chris... 786 00:39:53,697 --> 00:39:55,130 what are you going to do about it? 787 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,032 I'm not going to kill my baby, if that's what you're saying. 788 00:39:59,336 --> 00:40:01,827 You haven't thought this through at all, have you? 789 00:40:02,406 --> 00:40:03,532 What do you mean? 790 00:40:04,508 --> 00:40:06,533 If this theory is true... 791 00:40:08,579 --> 00:40:10,376 and your infant is like Chris... 792 00:40:10,815 --> 00:40:13,306 aren't we going to have to lock him up right away... 793 00:40:13,451 --> 00:40:16,420 and sterilize him so he won't reproduce? 794 00:40:16,954 --> 00:40:19,286 Because if he is genetically criminal... 795 00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:20,952 he can't stop. 796 00:40:22,026 --> 00:40:25,052 Or why don't we just avoid the whole bloody mess... 797 00:40:25,162 --> 00:40:28,064 and kill him right now? Enough, Counselor. 798 00:40:32,237 --> 00:40:33,829 No further questions. 799 00:40:42,114 --> 00:40:43,308 Thanks. 800 00:40:46,318 --> 00:40:49,583 For me, it's always cold fried chicken before a summation. 801 00:40:50,655 --> 00:40:52,054 Summation's next week. 802 00:40:52,591 --> 00:40:54,058 Change of plans. 803 00:40:54,459 --> 00:40:55,517 I ran out of witnesses. 804 00:40:55,594 --> 00:40:57,926 I'd have bet the ranch that you'd put Chris on the stand. 805 00:40:57,996 --> 00:41:00,260 Yeah, I would. But my client thinks otherwise. 806 00:41:00,398 --> 00:41:03,196 Yeah, well, maybe your client is smarter than both of us. 807 00:41:03,969 --> 00:41:06,062 You know, the way I see it, I've got jurors... 808 00:41:06,571 --> 00:41:09,438 two, five and seven. You've got... 809 00:41:09,908 --> 00:41:12,275 six, four, eleven. The rest are up for grabs. 810 00:41:12,345 --> 00:41:15,109 Brolin, you know what they say about counting your chickens. 811 00:41:15,615 --> 00:41:16,707 Listen, Ben... 812 00:41:17,550 --> 00:41:18,710 give me Man Two. 813 00:41:19,118 --> 00:41:21,518 He stays at Spofford till he hits his 18th birthday... 814 00:41:21,587 --> 00:41:24,715 and the rest he spends at a facility of your choice. 815 00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:26,724 Helen, what's going on? 816 00:41:27,927 --> 00:41:30,953 If you have three jurors in your pocket, it's a sure mistrial. 817 00:41:31,764 --> 00:41:34,028 I advised him against it, but... 818 00:41:34,767 --> 00:41:35,961 Chris wants a sit down. 819 00:41:38,337 --> 00:41:39,497 Okay. 820 00:41:40,573 --> 00:41:42,837 Tomorrow, my office, 9:00. 821 00:41:44,143 --> 00:41:45,371 You want a drink? 822 00:41:46,746 --> 00:41:47,872 Yeah. 823 00:41:50,283 --> 00:41:52,183 I just want you to understand, Chris... 824 00:41:52,251 --> 00:41:54,845 I don't think this is in your best interests. 825 00:41:55,555 --> 00:41:57,285 Don't worry, you're off the hook. 826 00:41:57,424 --> 00:41:59,324 I spoke to your attorney last night, Chris... 827 00:41:59,393 --> 00:42:02,260 and a plea at this point in the trial is unacceptable. 828 00:42:02,663 --> 00:42:04,824 I don't think you get what I'm looking for. 829 00:42:05,732 --> 00:42:08,200 I heard everything that went on in the courtroom, and I... 830 00:42:08,835 --> 00:42:10,166 I just... 831 00:42:11,305 --> 00:42:12,704 I just want it over with. 832 00:42:15,475 --> 00:42:17,568 Chris, this is a mistake. Why? 833 00:42:18,645 --> 00:42:22,274 I mean, you go on and on about how my genes are screwed up. 834 00:42:22,549 --> 00:42:24,881 And nobody can ever fix that, can they? 835 00:42:24,952 --> 00:42:27,216 I'm just trying to get the jury on our side. 836 00:42:27,621 --> 00:42:29,088 What, are you lying? 837 00:42:30,357 --> 00:42:33,690 I'm just trying to present a valid argument for your defense. 838 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,557 I mean, I killed him, didn't I? 839 00:42:36,163 --> 00:42:39,599 And I tried to kill that guy in the deli and that kid at Spofford. 840 00:42:40,167 --> 00:42:41,465 I'm screwed up. 841 00:42:41,536 --> 00:42:43,504 Chris, what are you trying to tell us? 842 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,467 I want to go to jail. 843 00:42:47,642 --> 00:42:50,076 You might spend the rest of your life there, Chris. 844 00:42:51,646 --> 00:42:54,137 So what? I'm a freak. 845 00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,184 You can't force the other side to play. 846 00:43:07,428 --> 00:43:10,192 You put a check in the win column, and you count your blessings. 847 00:43:10,265 --> 00:43:12,665 In any other circumstances, that's exactly what I'd do. 848 00:43:12,734 --> 00:43:15,532 Well, why does this kid deserve such special attention? 849 00:43:15,603 --> 00:43:17,434 Because he's pleading for the wrong reason. 850 00:43:17,505 --> 00:43:20,474 His lawyer tells him that he's born bad. We say he's raised bad. 851 00:43:20,541 --> 00:43:23,032 He buys both stories, sees his life as a dead end. 852 00:43:23,111 --> 00:43:25,444 Well, maybe he knows his life better than you do. 853 00:43:25,514 --> 00:43:27,914 Your job is to convict, not to rehabilitate. 854 00:43:27,983 --> 00:43:30,008 He's a 14-year-old kid who gave up. 855 00:43:30,085 --> 00:43:31,382 So you're doing him a favor. 856 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,312 If he gave up his illusions, right... 857 00:43:33,389 --> 00:43:35,516 but he gave up hope, and I drove him to that. 858 00:43:35,591 --> 00:43:37,582 Now anything might happen to that kid in prison. 859 00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:39,457 Gary Gilmore, Wesley Dodd: 860 00:43:39,528 --> 00:43:41,462 Two unrepentant killers. 861 00:43:41,664 --> 00:43:43,962 Everybody wants them dead until they agree... 862 00:43:44,133 --> 00:43:45,760 and then we turn them into folk heroes. 863 00:43:45,834 --> 00:43:47,495 I had nothing to do with their fates. 864 00:43:47,569 --> 00:43:49,628 You want them to start naming churches after you... 865 00:43:49,705 --> 00:43:50,763 I'd get another profession. 866 00:43:50,839 --> 00:43:53,831 Take the kid's plea, move on to the next case. 867 00:44:03,118 --> 00:44:05,712 Murder Two, he serves the maximum. 868 00:44:07,356 --> 00:44:09,382 Am I reading this right, Miss Brolin? 869 00:44:09,459 --> 00:44:11,450 It's what my client wants, Your Honor. 870 00:44:13,163 --> 00:44:17,099 Do you understand the charges to which you're pleading guilty, Mr. Pollit? 871 00:44:17,167 --> 00:44:18,191 Yes. 872 00:44:20,937 --> 00:44:22,996 Please describe, in your own words... 873 00:44:23,406 --> 00:44:26,898 what occurred on the night of September the 10th, of this year. 874 00:44:27,711 --> 00:44:29,736 I had a fight with Johnny. 875 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,547 I hit him and I kicked him until he was dead. 876 00:44:34,284 --> 00:44:35,945 Why did you kill him? 877 00:44:36,453 --> 00:44:37,613 You think I know? 878 00:44:39,356 --> 00:44:41,017 I get mad, I can't stop. 879 00:44:44,094 --> 00:44:46,153 The result of a plea bargain... 880 00:44:47,063 --> 00:44:49,429 usually is a reduced sentence. 881 00:44:49,499 --> 00:44:51,194 Doesn't anybody listen? 882 00:44:52,635 --> 00:44:54,331 I killed him. 883 00:44:56,273 --> 00:44:57,900 I'd do it again. 884 00:44:59,910 --> 00:45:02,208 I don't want anybody's help. 885 00:45:06,784 --> 00:45:07,944 Mr. Stone? 886 00:45:08,018 --> 00:45:10,043 Your Honor, we have agreed... 887 00:45:10,121 --> 00:45:13,318 that the defendant be incarcerated in a juvenile facility... 888 00:45:13,391 --> 00:45:14,881 until his 18th birthday... 889 00:45:14,959 --> 00:45:18,190 at which point he'd be transferred to Attica. 890 00:45:18,262 --> 00:45:19,320 Why? 891 00:45:20,698 --> 00:45:22,723 We're trying to save your life, son. 892 00:45:27,204 --> 00:45:28,831 What's the point?