1 00:00:01,134 --> 00:00:03,084 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:03,140 --> 00:00:06,789 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups- 3 00:00:06,852 --> 00:00:08,734 the police, who investigate crime, 4 00:00:08,792 --> 00:00:11,506 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,567 --> 00:00:13,346 These are their stories. 6 00:00:15,579 --> 00:00:18,031 Laurie, I need more cash. 7 00:00:18,088 --> 00:00:20,300 Hey, where's my free egg roll? No egg roll. 8 00:00:20,362 --> 00:00:23,406 It says over $25, you're supposed to get a free egg roll. No egg roll. 9 00:00:23,471 --> 00:00:27,656 I told them not to put it in. Fried dumplings and orange chicken... You don't need any more grease. 10 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:30,261 Here you go. Keep the change. But I like the egg rolls. 11 00:00:30,326 --> 00:00:32,504 Stop being a baby. Come on. 12 00:00:46,845 --> 00:00:48,851 Oh, my God. 13 00:00:49,621 --> 00:00:52,802 Leah Glaser, 78. She took a nasty tumble. 14 00:00:52,864 --> 00:00:54,540 Well, what makes it not an accident? 15 00:00:54,603 --> 00:00:57,385 Security chain's ripped off the door jamb. Well, that would do it. 16 00:00:57,445 --> 00:01:00,990 Looks like a push-in, but the TV's still here and so is her purse. 17 00:01:01,056 --> 00:01:03,007 And we're checking on her next of kin. 18 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,172 Brody, what do you got? 19 00:01:05,236 --> 00:01:07,688 Lacerated forehead, massive head trauma. 20 00:01:07,744 --> 00:01:09,694 You can tell from the fling. 21 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:11,860 She fell back, hit her head, fractured her skull. 22 00:01:11,924 --> 00:01:16,884 So, she opens the door with the chain on, somebody kicks it in, and... 23 00:01:16,940 --> 00:01:20,121 boom. Yeah, right between the eyes. Time of death? 24 00:01:20,184 --> 00:01:22,465 An hour before the body was found. 25 00:01:22,524 --> 00:01:25,705 Hey, make sure that C.S.U. gets any lifts to Latent. 26 00:01:25,768 --> 00:01:28,310 After she fractured her skull, she was still alive. 27 00:01:28,376 --> 00:01:30,588 How do you know that? Petechial hemorrhages. 28 00:01:30,650 --> 00:01:33,102 Smothered her. With his hand, so hard... 29 00:01:33,158 --> 00:01:35,700 her dentures lacerated her gums. 30 00:01:35,766 --> 00:01:37,773 Vicious son of a bitch. Hey, Ed 31 00:01:38,909 --> 00:01:42,295 She paid for these groceries at 3:33 p.m. 32 00:01:42,354 --> 00:01:44,304 There's a quart of milk in here... 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,777 and a pint of half-melted ice cream. 34 00:01:46,834 --> 00:01:49,012 Well, obviously she didn't have time to put them away. 35 00:01:49,075 --> 00:01:52,860 So, the guy figured her for an easy mark, followed her home from the store. 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,501 You know, that's a lot of groceries for an old lady to carry home by herself. 37 00:01:56,565 --> 00:01:58,811 Maybe she had them delivered. 38 00:01:58,872 --> 00:02:01,620 Well, whoever it was, I wonder what he took. 39 00:02:01,681 --> 00:02:03,996 The only thing that mattered. 40 00:02:56,019 --> 00:02:58,939 Mrs. Glaser's daughter is flying in from Israel to I.D. the body. 41 00:02:58,995 --> 00:03:01,104 We're hoping that maybe she could shed some light. 42 00:03:01,169 --> 00:03:05,558 Good news, bad news. Latent's pulled a full set of prints off the door jamb. 43 00:03:05,616 --> 00:03:08,466 He must have grabbed it with both hands when he kicked the door in. 44 00:03:08,525 --> 00:03:10,943 Prints didn't set off any bells with B.C.I.? 45 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,950 That's the bad news. They're not in the system. 46 00:03:13,006 --> 00:03:15,856 The M.E. on the scene said that she'd been dead about an hour, give or take. 47 00:03:15,915 --> 00:03:19,370 According to the store, her groceries were delivered around 4:00 p.m. 48 00:03:19,426 --> 00:03:22,676 The delivery guy's a West African immigrant. No record. 49 00:03:22,737 --> 00:03:27,058 And the body was discovered? 6:00, by another delivery man, Chinese take-out. 50 00:03:27,118 --> 00:03:29,900 Nice thing about New York... You never have to leave your apartment. 51 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,106 So she was killed around 5:00? 52 00:03:33,170 --> 00:03:37,594 Yeah, we figure maybe the guy scoped her out at the store, then followed her groceries home. 53 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:40,604 Or maybe the guy who delivered the groceries saw something that he liked... 54 00:03:40,660 --> 00:03:43,670 and decided to go back for it. We'll talk to him first. 55 00:03:43,736 --> 00:03:48,526 Well, I'll call Robbery and see if there have been any other push-ins in the neighborhood. 56 00:03:48,585 --> 00:03:50,694 Every Wednesday. Yesterday too? 57 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:53,746 No, not yesterday. You didn't deliver her groceries yesterday? 58 00:03:53,801 --> 00:03:56,150 She meet her friend, Miss Lu, at the store. 59 00:03:56,209 --> 00:03:58,285 Miss Lu? Chinese young lady. 60 00:03:58,349 --> 00:04:00,527 She take the groceries. They walk home together. 61 00:04:00,590 --> 00:04:03,406 How do you know Miss Lu? Same building, down the hall. 62 00:04:03,465 --> 00:04:06,247 I deliver her groceries too sometimes. 63 00:04:07,578 --> 00:04:10,292 I got to know Leah when she broke her hip last summer. 64 00:04:10,354 --> 00:04:12,771 She was laid up at St. Andrew's for a month. 65 00:04:12,828 --> 00:04:14,904 I went to see her every day. 66 00:04:14,968 --> 00:04:19,255 We'd talk about sewing. She used to be a seamstress. 67 00:04:19,315 --> 00:04:21,265 She offered to make me a cup of tea. 68 00:04:21,321 --> 00:04:23,739 Maybe if I'd stayed... No, it wasn't your fault. 69 00:04:23,796 --> 00:04:25,746 Did you notice anybody in the store... 70 00:04:25,802 --> 00:04:28,721 that might have followed the two of you home? I don't think so, no. 71 00:04:28,779 --> 00:04:31,355 How about as you came in the building? Anybody catch your eye? 72 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:34,305 I rode up with her, helped her get her groceries inside, and went home. 73 00:04:34,363 --> 00:04:37,042 What time was that? Around 4:00. 74 00:04:37,104 --> 00:04:41,118 You know, on the way home, we stopped at the A.T.M. across the street so Leah could get some cash. 75 00:04:41,184 --> 00:04:43,796 We found her, all she had was a few bucks in her purse. 76 00:04:43,859 --> 00:04:47,747 She didn't have a purse. I remember she took her bank card out of her pocket. 77 00:04:47,805 --> 00:04:50,222 How much did she withdraw? A hundred dollars, maybe. 78 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:53,062 Elderly woman with a wad of cash? 79 00:04:53,122 --> 00:04:56,269 Let's call the lieutenant. Let's get a list of those push-in robbery victims. 80 00:04:56,332 --> 00:04:58,338 Thank you, sweetheart. 81 00:05:01,213 --> 00:05:03,494 Yeah, well, it happened just inside here. 82 00:05:03,555 --> 00:05:06,268 I had a bag full of groceries, cat food and stuff like that. 83 00:05:06,331 --> 00:05:09,147 I put the bag down, take out my key, 84 00:05:09,206 --> 00:05:11,657 put it in the lock here, open the door, 85 00:05:11,714 --> 00:05:13,664 and bam! 86 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,671 There I am, kissing the floor! 87 00:05:15,727 --> 00:05:19,478 Then the bastard had a gun to the back of my head, 88 00:05:19,538 --> 00:05:22,525 told me if I turned around, he'd shoot me. 89 00:05:22,582 --> 00:05:25,535 Now, you told the police that the guy that robbed you was Latino? 90 00:05:25,591 --> 00:05:29,742 Yeah, yeah. He was Spanish. Can you give us anything else? 91 00:05:29,804 --> 00:05:32,381 Uh, height, weight, color, age? 92 00:05:32,446 --> 00:05:34,396 Yeah, 40, maybe. 93 00:05:34,452 --> 00:05:36,596 Uh, light-skinned. 94 00:05:36,659 --> 00:05:39,373 I was too scared to look him square in the face, you know? 95 00:05:39,435 --> 00:05:42,548 Do you take photographs, Mr. Wallace? Stargaze, up on the roof. 96 00:05:42,611 --> 00:05:45,827 It was a beauty of a telescope. 97 00:05:45,888 --> 00:05:48,773 Punk went right for it. 98 00:05:48,831 --> 00:05:51,443 Ten or 15 years ago, I would have taken him out, you know? 99 00:05:51,506 --> 00:05:54,858 No fun getting old, huh? Beats the alternative. 100 00:05:54,916 --> 00:05:59,170 Of course, when I'm lugging these old bones over to St. Andrew's, 101 00:05:59,231 --> 00:06:01,146 I'm not too sure I'm beating it by much. 102 00:06:01,203 --> 00:06:04,521 - St. Andrew's? - Yeah. That's where I get my dialysis. 103 00:06:04,580 --> 00:06:09,164 Same hospital where Leah Glaser had her hip surgery. 104 00:06:09,228 --> 00:06:12,216 Of the 12 names on this list, five were our patients. 105 00:06:12,272 --> 00:06:16,593 And their home addresses are in your records, right? Strictly confidential. 106 00:06:16,652 --> 00:06:19,970 And access to computers and patient records is tightly controlled. 107 00:06:20,030 --> 00:06:23,416 Yeah, but you've got all kinds of folks coming in and out of patients' rooms, right? 108 00:06:23,473 --> 00:06:25,423 Nurses, orderlies, visitors. 109 00:06:25,479 --> 00:06:28,433 Somebody takes a look in a purse, peeks into a wallet... 110 00:06:28,489 --> 00:06:30,666 You're talking about two stroke victims, 111 00:06:30,730 --> 00:06:33,808 a kidney patient, a cardiac patient, and a woman who had hip surgery. 112 00:06:33,873 --> 00:06:37,454 That's four separate floors, two different wings. 113 00:06:37,517 --> 00:06:40,664 And only the broken hip spent any real time here. Well, what about the other ones? 114 00:06:40,728 --> 00:06:44,012 As soon as they're ambulatory, we send them home. 115 00:06:44,071 --> 00:06:46,785 - Man, that's cold. - “Managed care." 116 00:06:46,847 --> 00:06:49,025 Emphasis on “managed.“ 117 00:06:49,087 --> 00:06:51,071 We have excellent follow-up therapy. 118 00:06:51,128 --> 00:06:55,107 Every patient gets a qualified caregiver and a thorough home therapy regimen. 119 00:06:55,173 --> 00:06:57,659 You got a list of these qualified caregivers? 120 00:06:57,715 --> 00:06:59,961 We contract all that to a private agency. 121 00:07:03,466 --> 00:07:06,454 All of our employees are screened and fingerprinted 122 00:07:06,509 --> 00:07:09,325 Okay, we're gonna need their records and the names... 123 00:07:09,385 --> 00:07:11,700 of whoever took care of these five patients. 124 00:07:13,130 --> 00:07:17,053 Leah Glaser. Broken hip. Sweet old lady. 125 00:07:18,447 --> 00:07:20,397 Pauline Morris. Pauline's a doll. 126 00:07:20,453 --> 00:07:23,463 Been with us seven years. Never had any complaints. Patients love her. 127 00:07:23,529 --> 00:07:26,141 Okay. How about the other four? 128 00:07:28,077 --> 00:07:30,689 Well, that's a coincidence. 129 00:07:30,752 --> 00:07:34,367 Pauline was the caregiver for all five. 130 00:07:34,431 --> 00:07:36,609 Some coincidence. 131 00:07:36,671 --> 00:07:39,887 What's this about? Your work with the elderly. 132 00:07:39,948 --> 00:07:42,696 Yes? You know a Leah Glaser? 133 00:07:42,757 --> 00:07:44,901 One of my patients. 134 00:07:46,669 --> 00:07:49,520 You like astronomy, Ms. Morris? That's my son's. 135 00:07:49,579 --> 00:07:53,660 The mount's still attached. Where's the tripod? 136 00:07:53,725 --> 00:07:57,841 We got it secondhand. Yeah, I think the term these days is “pre-owned." 137 00:07:57,905 --> 00:07:59,980 I'm sorry... This is a pretty good scam. 138 00:08:00,044 --> 00:08:03,328 You help out the elderly, and then you help yourself to their things. What? 139 00:08:03,388 --> 00:08:07,277 The telescope. We're betting it belonged to a Stan Wallace. 140 00:08:07,334 --> 00:08:11,519 You think I stole that from him? In the last six months, you've had nine patients. 141 00:08:11,581 --> 00:08:14,865 Five of them have been robbed at gunpoint. How's it work? 142 00:08:14,925 --> 00:08:18,540 You identify the mark and then when you're gone, somebody comes in and terrorizes these old folks? 143 00:08:18,603 --> 00:08:20,815 I swear, I don't know what you're talking about. 144 00:08:20,877 --> 00:08:23,089 How did Mr. Wallace's telescope end up in your apartment? 145 00:08:23,151 --> 00:08:25,135 That's not Mr. Wallace's! 146 00:08:25,191 --> 00:08:28,235 It was a gift for my son's graduation from my fiancé. 147 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:31,254 - He bought it at a flea market. - Oh, yeah? What's your fiancé's name? 148 00:08:31,310 --> 00:08:34,354 Joe Vasquez. And he works in the health care business too? 149 00:08:34,419 --> 00:08:36,370 He drives for an ambulette service. 150 00:08:36,426 --> 00:08:39,208 Yeah, what, picks them up at home, takes them to the doctor, like that? 151 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:41,949 Yes. 152 00:08:42,011 --> 00:08:44,691 You don't think Joe... Actually, we do. 153 00:08:44,753 --> 00:08:46,703 Where can we find Joe now? 154 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:49,575 Working. 155 00:08:49,634 --> 00:08:51,778 He told me this was his grandmother's. 156 00:08:51,841 --> 00:08:55,057 Yeah, it was somebody's grandmother's. 157 00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:58,664 You casing new prospects, Joe? Say again? 158 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:03,211 She ain't got no doorman. Nice old lady needs a hand. just like your other jobs. 159 00:09:03,278 --> 00:09:06,094 Don't know what you're talking about. I have one job. You're looking at it. Okay? 160 00:09:06,153 --> 00:09:10,542 Well, we'd love to take your word for it, Joe, but one of your references checked out permanently. 161 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,109 What are you doing, man? You an astronomy buff, Joe? 162 00:09:13,175 --> 00:09:15,319 What? That telescope you gave your fiancée? 163 00:09:15,383 --> 00:09:17,664 We know where you got it, and it wasn't at a flea market. 164 00:09:17,723 --> 00:09:19,901 You've heard of the seven rings of Saturn? 165 00:09:19,964 --> 00:09:22,279 These are the two rings of Rikers. 166 00:09:27,053 --> 00:09:31,272 I ain't robbed nobody, okay? We got an eyewitness who picked you out of a six-pack, Joe. 167 00:09:31,332 --> 00:09:34,878 One of your victims. Eyewitness to what? I ain't done nothing. 168 00:09:34,944 --> 00:09:37,486 We got people searching your place as we speak. 169 00:09:37,553 --> 00:09:40,871 And what do you think they're gonna find, huh? All right, look. 170 00:09:40,930 --> 00:09:43,849 Maybe I buy and sell some stuff sometimes, you know, off the books, okay? 171 00:09:43,905 --> 00:09:48,990 Oh, so you're just a fence, right? Not an armed robber who preys on old people. 172 00:09:49,055 --> 00:09:52,100 Look, I take stuff on consignment, you know? 173 00:09:52,165 --> 00:09:54,115 I ain't no armed robber. 174 00:09:54,171 --> 00:09:56,783 What are we gonna find in your place, Joe? Something belonging to a dead woman? 175 00:09:56,846 --> 00:10:00,267 Dead woman? No way. Uh-uh. No way, man. 176 00:10:00,324 --> 00:10:03,004 You fractured an old lady's skull and smothered her during a robbery. 177 00:10:03,066 --> 00:10:06,886 - We call that felony murder. - I told you. I don't know nothing about no dead lady! 178 00:10:06,945 --> 00:10:09,020 You don't know this woman? 179 00:10:09,085 --> 00:10:11,730 Never seen her. Don't know her. 180 00:10:11,793 --> 00:10:15,078 Uh-uh. Take another look. Come on, man. 181 00:10:15,138 --> 00:10:17,247 Don't you think I'd remember? 182 00:10:17,311 --> 00:10:19,695 Do you remember where you were Wednesday afternoon? 183 00:10:19,752 --> 00:10:22,898 Wednesday? Wednesday... 184 00:10:22,963 --> 00:10:27,044 Yeah. Um-- Yeah, I dropped a guy off at the clinic for an overnight. 185 00:10:27,109 --> 00:10:31,362 On the way back to the garage, I got stuck on the F.D.R., jammed in traffic for an hour and a half. 186 00:10:31,422 --> 00:10:34,967 No way in, no way out. And no way for anybody to vouch for you. 187 00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:39,720 Talk to Dougie. He's my dispatcher, okay? 188 00:10:39,782 --> 00:10:42,267 We spent the whole time jawin' on the radio. 189 00:10:42,323 --> 00:10:46,975 I told him the next time the damn president's in town, I'm taking the day off. 190 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:49,718 You guys want to know about Vasquez, right? 191 00:10:49,780 --> 00:10:51,787 He's on 7:00 to 3:00, weekdays. 192 00:10:51,853 --> 00:10:54,703 He said you two were burning up the radio this last Wednesday. 193 00:10:54,762 --> 00:10:57,305 The president came in to talk to the U.N. that day. 194 00:10:57,371 --> 00:11:00,358 Major meltdown. Vasquez was in the middle of it, goin' out of his mind. 195 00:11:00,413 --> 00:11:03,229 That's what he told you, but you don't know that for a fact. 196 00:11:03,290 --> 00:11:06,642 Hey, I believed him, because he kept calling me to bitch about it. 197 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:11,820 So whatever you think he did, he would have had to do it with one hand on his radio, because he never shut the hell up. 198 00:11:11,883 --> 00:11:14,996 Did Vasquez ever drive an old lady named Leah Glaser? 199 00:11:15,060 --> 00:11:17,409 Name rings a bell. 200 00:11:18,872 --> 00:11:20,879 Uh... 201 00:11:21,882 --> 00:11:24,869 Uh, not Vasquez. Johnny Kagan. Monday. 202 00:11:24,924 --> 00:11:29,383 Drove her downtown, Federal Plaza. Why are you interested in these guys? 203 00:11:29,438 --> 00:11:32,152 Vasquez and Kagan... What do you know about them? 204 00:11:32,214 --> 00:11:34,722 Friends of my cousin. Uh, came in a couple of years ago... 205 00:11:34,789 --> 00:11:37,104 looking to turn over a new lease on life. 206 00:11:37,163 --> 00:11:39,546 Came here from where? California. 207 00:11:39,604 --> 00:11:41,987 The two of them just finished a nickel jolt out in Lompoc. 208 00:11:42,045 --> 00:11:44,930 "Nickel jolt." You sound like an old yardbird yourself. 209 00:11:44,988 --> 00:11:47,873 Everybody deserves a second chance, Detective. 210 00:11:47,930 --> 00:11:51,077 - What were they in for? - Why don't you pull their sheets? 211 00:11:51,140 --> 00:11:53,455 Why don't you tell us before we pull yours? 212 00:11:53,514 --> 00:11:55,520 I don't know. 213 00:11:55,587 --> 00:11:57,538 Armed robbery, maybe. 214 00:12:02,142 --> 00:12:04,593 Joe did some thing he shouldn't have, that's his business. 215 00:12:04,650 --> 00:12:09,200 Yeah, we figure you and Vasquez are in business together, tag-teaming senior citizens. 216 00:12:09,264 --> 00:12:12,308 I'm straight these days, Detective. Keep my nose to the grindstone. 217 00:12:12,374 --> 00:12:15,828 Your dispatcher said that you picked up a client named Leah Glaser Monday. 218 00:12:15,885 --> 00:12:19,899 If that's what he says. Yeah, well, she's dead. Somebody killed her. 219 00:12:19,965 --> 00:12:23,819 Now do we have your attention? Man, I didn't have nothing to do with that. 220 00:12:23,876 --> 00:12:27,331 Where did you take her? Dropped her off downtown at Federal Plaza. 221 00:12:27,388 --> 00:12:29,839 How'd she get home? Said she'd take a cab. 222 00:12:29,895 --> 00:12:32,438 Federal Plaza? You see what building she went in? No. 223 00:12:32,504 --> 00:12:35,320 No idea. And she didn't tell me where she was going, okay? 224 00:12:35,380 --> 00:12:38,858 Can I get back to work now? Yeah, go ahead. Get lost. 225 00:12:38,924 --> 00:12:42,140 Man, she could have gone anywhere... courts, government offices. 226 00:12:42,201 --> 00:12:44,618 You ready to work off that lunch? We didn't have lunch. 227 00:12:44,675 --> 00:12:48,153 Exactly. I'm gonna call Lieu, tell her we're gonna be a while. 228 00:12:49,357 --> 00:12:52,710 My mother was a survivor. 229 00:12:52,768 --> 00:12:56,154 I don't mean in the casual way... 230 00:12:56,212 --> 00:12:58,629 people say “I'm a survivor”... 231 00:12:58,686 --> 00:13:01,195 after they get a divorce. 232 00:13:01,261 --> 00:13:04,146 I mean literally She was in a camp. 233 00:13:04,204 --> 00:13:06,155 In Poland. 234 00:13:06,211 --> 00:13:08,822 That she should come through all that... 235 00:13:08,885 --> 00:13:12,637 and then die in some stupid holdup... 236 00:13:12,698 --> 00:13:15,914 Mrs. Meisner, have you been able to go through your mother's things? 237 00:13:15,975 --> 00:13:18,221 Was there anything missing? 238 00:13:18,282 --> 00:13:22,204 A locket. A silver locket. 239 00:13:22,261 --> 00:13:25,147 It had a picture of her mother and father... 240 00:13:25,204 --> 00:13:27,849 my grandparents. 241 00:13:27,913 --> 00:13:30,296 She never... 242 00:13:30,353 --> 00:13:32,303 She never took it off. 243 00:13:32,359 --> 00:13:36,441 It's the only thing she had from her life before the war. 244 00:13:36,506 --> 00:13:39,288 God knows how she managed to hang onto it. 245 00:13:39,348 --> 00:13:43,807 I'm sorry. She wasn't wearing any other jewelry when she was found. 246 00:13:43,863 --> 00:13:46,509 I wanted to pass that along to my daughter. 247 00:13:46,571 --> 00:13:50,824 Something to remember her nana by. 248 00:13:51,821 --> 00:13:54,364 If we find it... 249 00:13:54,429 --> 00:13:57,348 Now, your mother had an appointment downtown... 250 00:13:57,405 --> 00:14:00,917 near the courthouses a couple of days before she died. 251 00:14:00,983 --> 00:14:03,400 Do you know why she might have been down there? 252 00:14:03,457 --> 00:14:06,342 Any legal business she might have had? 253 00:14:06,401 --> 00:14:08,909 A will, maybe. I don't know. 254 00:14:08,975 --> 00:14:11,153 Maybe she was getting her passport renewed, 255 00:14:11,215 --> 00:14:13,165 planning to visit you in Israel? 256 00:14:13,221 --> 00:14:15,764 The last time I spoke to her, she mentioned... 257 00:14:15,830 --> 00:14:18,510 she was going to Immigration again. 258 00:14:18,572 --> 00:14:21,491 Is that downtown? Immigration... You know why? 259 00:14:21,548 --> 00:14:24,866 This was about her Shoah testimony, I think. 260 00:14:24,926 --> 00:14:28,814 “Shoah testimony"? The Shoah Project. 261 00:14:28,871 --> 00:14:32,325 It's a videotaped oral history of the Holocaust... 262 00:14:32,383 --> 00:14:36,568 to record the truth before all the witnesses are dead... 263 00:14:36,629 --> 00:14:39,548 and the whole world forgets what happened. 264 00:14:42,948 --> 00:14:46,061 Leah Glaser... She was here last Monday. 265 00:14:46,125 --> 00:14:49,512 What was she doing here? It doesn't say. 266 00:14:49,570 --> 00:14:53,219 It's gotta be in there somewhere. I'm looking. 267 00:14:54,686 --> 00:14:58,642 Some D.O.J. bigwig pulled her file. Department of justice? 268 00:14:58,698 --> 00:15:01,150 Someone in Criminal Division. When they pull a file, 269 00:15:01,207 --> 00:15:03,488 it usually has something to do with Homeland Security. 270 00:15:03,547 --> 00:15:06,763 Her name was Leah Glaser. She was 78 years old. 271 00:15:06,824 --> 00:15:09,400 Does that sound like a security risk to you? Don't ask me. 272 00:15:09,466 --> 00:15:11,416 Ask Criminal. Sixth floor. 273 00:15:14,649 --> 00:15:16,792 Our records show she met with Dennis Mendenhall. 274 00:15:16,856 --> 00:15:18,806 Okay we 're gonna need to talk to him. 275 00:15:18,862 --> 00:15:21,370 Dennis doesn't work out of this office. He's with O.S.I. 276 00:15:21,436 --> 00:15:24,617 D.O.J., O.S.I... Government alphabet soup. 277 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,865 Office of Special Investigations. Was Leah Glaser being investigated? 278 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:31,539 Sorry. I'm not authorized to talk about that. 279 00:15:31,602 --> 00:15:35,559 Look, we're not asking because we're nosy. Ms. Glaser was murdered. 280 00:15:35,615 --> 00:15:39,834 Oh, my God. 281 00:15:39,895 --> 00:15:43,008 - I wonder... - You wonder what? 282 00:15:45,145 --> 00:15:48,395 She was a witness in a deportation proceeding. 283 00:15:48,456 --> 00:15:51,933 If it was a deportation proceeding, why wouldn't Immigration handle it? 284 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,048 Because O.S.I. handles all cases relating to war crimes. 285 00:15:56,113 --> 00:15:58,963 - But she wasn't being investigated? - No, she wasn't. 286 00:15:59,023 --> 00:16:03,104 She was testifying against a camp guard, an S.S. officer. 287 00:16:03,168 --> 00:16:05,153 A Nazi. 288 00:16:08,552 --> 00:16:10,798 Stefan Anders, German national, 289 00:16:10,859 --> 00:16:13,105 immigrated here in 1948. 290 00:16:13,167 --> 00:16:15,311 And you think he's a Nazi? 291 00:16:15,374 --> 00:16:19,353 I've spent the last seven years de-naturalizing him, stripping him of his citizenship. 292 00:16:19,420 --> 00:16:23,433 Next step, deportation. So why are you giving up now? 293 00:16:23,499 --> 00:16:27,684 Lt. Van Buren, have you ever had trouble finding credible eyewitnesses to your cases? 294 00:16:27,746 --> 00:16:31,932 Of course we do. Try finding one to something that happened 60 years ago. 295 00:16:31,993 --> 00:16:34,410 Anders was a guard in a place called Bobrek, 296 00:16:34,467 --> 00:16:37,283 a, uh, satellite camp of Auschwitz, 297 00:16:37,343 --> 00:16:40,924 which manufactured airplane and submarine parts. 298 00:16:40,988 --> 00:16:44,442 Leah Glaser was a slave laborer there. 299 00:16:44,499 --> 00:16:46,449 Anders was the S.S. officer in charge. 300 00:16:46,505 --> 00:16:49,550 Leah Glaser identified him from this photo... 301 00:16:49,615 --> 00:16:52,568 his Waffen S.S. file. 302 00:16:52,624 --> 00:16:54,802 After the Soviet Union opened their archives in the early '90s, 303 00:16:54,865 --> 00:16:57,715 they turned it over to us. You can hardly see his face. 304 00:16:57,774 --> 00:17:01,525 This was what, 60 years ago? How could she be so sure? 305 00:17:01,586 --> 00:17:04,699 One morning he shot six other prisoners... 306 00:17:04,762 --> 00:17:06,713 right in front of her. 307 00:17:06,769 --> 00:17:10,885 She couldn't forget him. You looked at her Shoah testimony. 308 00:17:12,152 --> 00:17:14,604 Her description of this one guard, 309 00:17:14,661 --> 00:17:18,241 this one particular incident, sounded like Anders, 310 00:17:18,306 --> 00:17:22,023 so we contacted her, and she picked him out of a photo array. 311 00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:25,629 And you're convinced that this Anders is the same Anders... 312 00:17:25,695 --> 00:17:28,911 who's alive and well and living on East 91 st Street? 313 00:17:28,973 --> 00:17:32,724 And has been for the last 50 years. 314 00:17:32,785 --> 00:17:36,639 Yeah, we are, and so was Leah Glaser. 315 00:17:36,697 --> 00:17:39,046 But without her testimony? 316 00:17:39,104 --> 00:17:42,149 Unless we can find more evidence, 317 00:17:42,214 --> 00:17:46,068 he's gonna die on that nice, soft bed on East 91 st Street. 318 00:17:46,127 --> 00:17:49,810 If he killed her to stop her from testifying, that's murder one. 319 00:17:51,009 --> 00:17:55,194 You know, Lieutenant, there's one place we've never been able to search for evidence against him... 320 00:17:55,255 --> 00:17:56,795 his home. 321 00:17:56,861 --> 00:18:01,581 See, that's where Criminal has it all over Civil. 322 00:18:02,578 --> 00:18:05,063 Man's a murder suspect. 323 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:07,503 What exactly do you think you're gonna find? 324 00:18:07,561 --> 00:18:10,514 Memorabilia from your father? goose-stepping days. 325 00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:13,888 That is so offensive. He wasn't a Nazi. 326 00:18:13,948 --> 00:18:16,091 Not every German was a Nazi. 327 00:18:16,154 --> 00:18:18,105 Yeah, they were just following orders. 328 00:18:18,161 --> 00:18:21,672 I was a soldier, a veteran, like you. 329 00:18:21,739 --> 00:18:24,555 Not like me, pal. This is a witch hunt, 330 00:18:24,615 --> 00:18:26,724 an O.S.I. fishing expedition. 331 00:18:26,788 --> 00:18:30,243 Yeah, they're persecuting an innocent old man Just for the hell of it. 332 00:18:30,299 --> 00:18:33,013 Search all you want. I'm not hiding anything. 333 00:18:33,075 --> 00:18:35,755 - Dad, I'm calling a lawyer. - He's gonna need one. 334 00:18:35,817 --> 00:18:37,823 Lennie, look what I found. 335 00:18:42,739 --> 00:18:45,156 I don't know anything about this locket. 336 00:18:45,213 --> 00:18:47,596 Yeah, right. It just magically appeared in your stuff, 337 00:18:47,654 --> 00:18:50,436 next to your passport and your social security card. 338 00:18:50,496 --> 00:18:53,849 Someone sent it to me. See, you do know something about it. 339 00:18:53,907 --> 00:18:56,153 Who sent it'? I don't know. 340 00:18:56,215 --> 00:18:58,826 Now, why would somebody send you Leah Glaser's locket? 341 00:18:58,890 --> 00:19:01,775 I don't know. And I don't know this Glaser person. 342 00:19:01,832 --> 00:19:04,478 Leah Glaser. She was gonna get you deported... 343 00:19:04,541 --> 00:19:07,026 back to the old country, the fatherland. 344 00:19:07,082 --> 00:19:10,628 You mean the so-called witness? I never met her. 345 00:19:10,693 --> 00:19:14,205 - You took that locket from her neck! - I told you... 346 00:19:14,272 --> 00:19:17,624 - After you killed her! - And your big mistake was holding onto the locket. 347 00:19:17,682 --> 00:19:20,567 Mrs. Glaser's daughter's going to identify it as her mother's. 348 00:19:20,624 --> 00:19:23,133 We're gonna find your prints all over it. I never met her. 349 00:19:23,199 --> 00:19:26,152 And then we're gonna match those prints with your prints from the crime scene. 350 00:19:26,208 --> 00:19:28,420 - It's impossible. I was never there. - You're lying. 351 00:19:28,482 --> 00:19:31,128 - I'm not! - Quit browbeating my client. 352 00:19:31,191 --> 00:19:34,703 Stefan, not another word. This interrogation is over. 353 00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:40,996 Stefan Anders was never a murderer... not then, not now. 354 00:19:41,055 --> 00:19:44,773 He never met Mrs. Glaser. He was unaware of the locket's provenance. 355 00:19:44,835 --> 00:19:47,343 It was sent to him by an unknown party. 356 00:19:47,409 --> 00:19:51,229 How does he explain this, which the police found in his papers? 357 00:19:51,288 --> 00:19:55,403 His 1948 visa application to enter the United States. 358 00:19:55,468 --> 00:19:59,549 - So what? - Compare that visa photo with this. 359 00:19:59,615 --> 00:20:03,571 - What's this? - It's from Mr. Anders's Waffen S.S. file. 360 00:20:03,627 --> 00:20:07,846 The photograph you used to enter this country in 1948... 361 00:20:07,907 --> 00:20:11,762 is the same as the one in your S.S. personnel file. 362 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:16,438 - That can't be. - The Russians turned it over to O.S.I. a few years ago. 363 00:20:18,842 --> 00:20:21,658 All right. 364 00:20:24,024 --> 00:20:27,844 I was a soldier on the Eastern Front. 365 00:20:27,904 --> 00:20:29,910 A young officer. 366 00:20:29,977 --> 00:20:33,558 After Stalingrad, the S.S. sent me to Bobrek. 367 00:20:33,622 --> 00:20:36,974 The war was lost. All that was left was the final solution. 368 00:20:37,032 --> 00:20:40,544 You think I had a choice? You think I wanted to be guarding prisoners in some miserable camp? 369 00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:44,327 The O.S.I. says that you were the officer in charge. Ridiculous. 370 00:20:44,389 --> 00:20:47,001 I escorted the prisoners... 371 00:20:47,064 --> 00:20:49,549 from the barracks to the factory every day, 372 00:20:49,605 --> 00:20:51,556 and then back again in the evening. 373 00:20:51,612 --> 00:20:54,291 That's all. I never harmed a prisoner. 374 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:56,304 Not one. Not ever. 375 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,435 Not according to Leah Glaser. 376 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:00,450 It wasn't me who killed those prisoners. 377 00:21:00,506 --> 00:21:03,550 - She has me confused with another guard. - We weren't worried. 378 00:21:03,617 --> 00:21:05,794 Her word against his. 379 00:21:05,856 --> 00:21:08,742 That was before we found his visa photograph. 380 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:11,479 Well, yes. Now, that evidence is enough to get him deported. 381 00:21:11,541 --> 00:21:15,862 He lied about his background to get into this country. He admits it. 382 00:21:15,921 --> 00:21:18,966 But if you hadn't searched his home and found that photograph 383 00:21:19,032 --> 00:21:21,038 he would have beaten deportation. 384 00:21:21,104 --> 00:21:24,616 - What has happened is a disaster for me. - What I'm saying is, 385 00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:26,895 he had no reason to kill her. 386 00:21:26,956 --> 00:21:30,741 The appeals process on deportation alone would have lasted years. 387 00:21:30,802 --> 00:21:36,423 - You thought you'd outlive her. - One of us was bound to die before this was settled. 388 00:21:36,486 --> 00:21:39,907 - You made sure it was her. - All right, look. Since you insist... 389 00:21:39,964 --> 00:21:41,948 on going through with this. 390 00:21:47,889 --> 00:21:50,637 He's seeking to bar us from characterizing Mr. Anders... 391 00:21:50,698 --> 00:21:54,050 as a Nazi at trial. 392 00:21:54,109 --> 00:21:56,822 Talk about chutzpah. 393 00:22:00,094 --> 00:22:02,910 Your Honor, labeling Stefan Anders as a Nazi.. 394 00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:05,923 Will prevent him from ever receiving a fair trial. 395 00:22:05,979 --> 00:22:09,434 The mere mention of the word is enough to condemn him in the eyes of any jury. 396 00:22:09,491 --> 00:22:12,307 He has a point, Mr. McCoy. It couldn't be a more loaded word. 397 00:22:12,366 --> 00:22:16,790 Mr. Anders's motive arises out of his personal history as an S.S. officer... 398 00:22:16,848 --> 00:22:18,798 and a member of the Nazi party. 399 00:22:18,854 --> 00:22:21,203 His past is part and parcel of the People's case. 400 00:22:21,261 --> 00:22:23,211 Mr. Jensen? 401 00:22:23,267 --> 00:22:26,882 Then you must give my client the opportunity to explain his past... 402 00:22:26,945 --> 00:22:29,055 in its historical context. 403 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,505 Are you going to offer evidence that he wasn't a Nazi or an S.S. officer? 404 00:22:32,563 --> 00:22:35,551 I'm going to offer evidence that the commonly accepted version... 405 00:22:35,606 --> 00:22:38,057 of the Second World War is wrong. 406 00:22:38,114 --> 00:22:40,794 That there was no Holocaust, there were no death camps, 407 00:22:40,856 --> 00:22:44,368 and there certainly was no final solution. Your Honor, please. 408 00:22:44,434 --> 00:22:47,445 Did hundreds of thousands of Jews die? Yes. 409 00:22:47,511 --> 00:22:50,727 And not only Jews, but Gypsies, Poles, Russians... yes. 410 00:22:50,788 --> 00:22:54,265 But those deaths weren't murders. They weren't genocide. 411 00:22:54,332 --> 00:22:58,791 They were the inevitable result of disease, of starvation, of war. 412 00:22:58,846 --> 00:23:02,735 Every respectable historian in the world would disagree. 413 00:23:02,792 --> 00:23:05,300 There are distinguished academics who think otherwise. 414 00:23:05,367 --> 00:23:07,876 Holocaust deniers, cranks, 415 00:23:07,942 --> 00:23:11,054 anti-Semites disguising their real agenda. 416 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,733 Meretricious nonsense does not become expert testimony... 417 00:23:14,797 --> 00:23:17,875 just because it comes wrapped in a Ph.D.! 418 00:23:17,939 --> 00:23:21,554 Why don't we let a jury decide what's fringe nonsense and what's not? 419 00:23:21,618 --> 00:23:25,199 Why don't we let a judge decide first? 420 00:23:25,263 --> 00:23:28,615 We would happily accept an evidentiary hearing, Your Honor. Nothing would please us more. 421 00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:32,185 Your Honor can't entertain this disreputable, evil theory. 422 00:23:32,251 --> 00:23:34,429 If someone insists the earth is flat... 423 00:23:34,492 --> 00:23:38,243 and the sun circles around it, despite all evidence to the contrary, 424 00:23:38,304 --> 00:23:41,485 are we supposed to engage the argument on their terms? 425 00:23:41,547 --> 00:23:44,763 - This is a conversation with a lunatic! - Hold your horses, Mr. McCoy. 426 00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:46,775 I agree. 427 00:23:46,831 --> 00:23:50,012 No rational, unbiased person could look at the historical evidence... 428 00:23:50,075 --> 00:23:52,789 and doubt the fact of the Holocaust. 429 00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:55,666 It cannot be disputed, 430 00:23:55,726 --> 00:23:57,938 nor will it be in my court. 431 00:24:00,207 --> 00:24:02,157 The whole question's irrelevant. 432 00:24:02,213 --> 00:24:05,429 Anders is being deported whether the Holocaust happened or not. 433 00:24:05,490 --> 00:24:09,914 It doesn't make any difference. I mean, he still had motive to murder the old lady. 434 00:24:09,971 --> 00:24:13,083 Arguing about whether the Holocaust actually happened... 435 00:24:13,147 --> 00:24:17,195 It's not something I'd ever thought I'd have to do in court or out. 436 00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:20,076 Now, Jensen knew it never stood the ghost of a chance. 437 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,755 What are you saying? It was a ploy? 438 00:24:23,814 --> 00:24:26,631 Judge Karan kicks out his motion, gives him more grounds for appeal. 439 00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:28,674 It's what it's about with these old guys. 440 00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:32,276 I mean, stall and delay, whatever it takes to run out the clock. 441 00:24:33,411 --> 00:24:36,490 How does a retired mechanic retain a pricey mouthpiece like Jensen? 442 00:24:36,554 --> 00:24:39,541 I was wondering the same thing myself. 443 00:24:39,598 --> 00:24:42,083 I don't suppose he was doing it pro bono. 444 00:24:42,139 --> 00:24:45,184 Worth looking at. 445 00:24:45,249 --> 00:24:48,669 The crime lab matched Anders's D.N.A. to a sample taken from Leah Glaser's door. 446 00:24:48,726 --> 00:24:51,805 He left his sweat on the doorknob and peephole. 447 00:24:51,869 --> 00:24:54,013 Now you got him. What about the fingerprints? 448 00:24:54,077 --> 00:24:56,688 A print on the locket matches a print found on the door jamb, but... 449 00:24:56,752 --> 00:24:59,237 It isn't Anders's. 450 00:24:59,293 --> 00:25:01,539 It looks like somebody else kicked down that door. 451 00:25:07,653 --> 00:25:09,763 Do you think this exonerates Anders? 452 00:25:09,826 --> 00:25:12,141 Not at all. Leah Glaser's death... 453 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,552 had to be connected to her testimony against Anders. 454 00:25:15,611 --> 00:25:19,294 We can assume there was an accomplice, and so will a jury. 455 00:25:19,356 --> 00:25:22,537 Well, Anders now admits that he did go see her after the preliminary hearing. 456 00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:27,285 He said that she wouldn't let him in, so he talked to her through the door for a few minutes and then left. 457 00:25:27,349 --> 00:25:30,633 What about the son? Came in voluntarily and gave his fingerprints. 458 00:25:30,692 --> 00:25:33,942 They're not his. Time to cast a wider net. 459 00:25:34,002 --> 00:25:36,317 We checked Anders's phone and financial records. 460 00:25:36,376 --> 00:25:40,093 You know, there is actually a Web site supporting Anders's deportation fight. 461 00:25:40,155 --> 00:25:42,801 Maybe they're contributing to his defense. 462 00:25:42,864 --> 00:25:45,315 Somebody's got to be paying for Jensen. 463 00:25:45,371 --> 00:25:48,655 What about this preliminary hearing? Check the sign-in sheet. 464 00:25:48,716 --> 00:25:52,068 See if anyone else turned up to cheer on their hero. 465 00:25:53,196 --> 00:25:56,845 We found one interesting hit from that sign-in sheet... 466 00:25:56,908 --> 00:25:59,291 Kyle Mellors. Who's Kyle Mellors? 467 00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:03,362 He's a record producer. And this is from his company Web site. 468 00:26:03,428 --> 00:26:06,278 Heritage Records? Sounds benign, right? 469 00:26:06,338 --> 00:26:09,656 But then you begin clicking around that Web site. 470 00:26:09,715 --> 00:26:11,961 It's hardcore W.P. W.P.? 471 00:26:12,022 --> 00:26:15,568 “White power." Check out the links on that site. 472 00:26:15,634 --> 00:26:19,613 Nazi memorabilia. An “ethnic cleansing" video game. 473 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:21,960 A picture of Hitler in an Uncle Sam top hat and suit, 474 00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:23,971 with his arm out, pointing. 475 00:26:24,027 --> 00:26:27,345 And here's some praise for the 9/11 hijackers. 476 00:26:27,404 --> 00:26:31,452 “Wish we had the guts to do what they did." 477 00:26:31,517 --> 00:26:34,630 “Holocaust Barbecue Sauce, six million served.” 478 00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:38,776 They deny the Holocaust and celebrate it simultaneously 479 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,124 A neat trick. Did you listen to the records? 480 00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,396 I just read the catalogue descriptions. 481 00:26:44,458 --> 00:26:47,912 It's all about “mud people" and white supremacy... 482 00:26:47,968 --> 00:26:50,819 and killing Jews and blacks. 483 00:26:50,878 --> 00:26:55,131 So Mellors is a neo-Nazi who went to the hearing to support Anders. 484 00:26:55,192 --> 00:26:57,940 There's a link on the Heritage Records Web site... 485 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,957 which has been raising money to fight Anders's deportation. 486 00:27:02,014 --> 00:27:06,973 "Stefan Anders, innocent man targeted by Zionist opportunists"? 487 00:27:07,030 --> 00:27:09,207 You get into Heritage Records' financials, 488 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:13,124 and I'll bet you'll find they've been shoveling money into Anders's defense fund. 489 00:27:13,182 --> 00:27:16,398 I'll get a subpoena. Have Briscoe and Green... 490 00:27:16,459 --> 00:27:18,500 drop in on Mellors for a chat. 491 00:27:18,565 --> 00:27:20,516 Briscoe and Green. 492 00:27:20,572 --> 00:27:23,822 That ought to push his buttons. 493 00:27:27,226 --> 00:27:30,339 - We're in the middle of a session. - Ours is just starting. 494 00:27:30,403 --> 00:27:33,550 Whoa, the fuzz. “The fuzz." I haven't heard that since the '60s. 495 00:27:33,613 --> 00:27:35,894 Everything old is new again. Kyle Mellors? 496 00:27:38,261 --> 00:27:40,211 How can I help you gentlemen? 497 00:27:40,267 --> 00:27:43,654 Oh, hey, man we need to ask you a few questions about Stefan Anders. 498 00:27:43,712 --> 00:27:46,129 Don't know the man. You raised money for him. 499 00:27:46,186 --> 00:27:48,296 Well, I give money to the ASPCA too, 500 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:51,780 but it doesn't mean I'm on speaking terms with every mutt in the kennel. 501 00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:54,916 - So you don't know this “mutt,” Anders? - Nope. Never met him. 502 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:59,461 - But you like the things he stands for? - My customers like the things he stands for. 503 00:27:59,528 --> 00:28:02,104 Look, Detectives, I'm a record producer. 504 00:28:02,169 --> 00:28:04,655 You know, controversy sells records. 505 00:28:04,711 --> 00:28:07,995 And Stefan Anders is controversial? You bet. 506 00:28:08,055 --> 00:28:11,476 And now he's been arrested for murder, my Web site hits are through the roof. 507 00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:13,950 You know, we're gonna ride this guy all the way to the end. 508 00:28:14,007 --> 00:28:17,427 Hope he gets the death penalty. We can retire. "No Surrender”? 509 00:28:17,485 --> 00:28:20,529 That's their debut album. You produce this garbage? 510 00:28:20,594 --> 00:28:24,345 - Well, that one's a little extreme. - How about this one? 511 00:28:24,406 --> 00:28:27,725 That's our biggest seller, “New Glory.“ 512 00:28:27,784 --> 00:28:30,566 Will you sign it for us? 513 00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:37,381 - Who should I make it out to? - “New York's finest." 514 00:28:39,654 --> 00:28:42,470 Heritage Records is one of the biggest neo-Nazi record labels. 515 00:28:42,531 --> 00:28:46,920 I read your books. Kyle Mellors doesn't exactly seem to fit the profile. 516 00:28:46,977 --> 00:28:49,589 You know, I thought neo-Nazis shaved their heads. 517 00:28:49,653 --> 00:28:52,606 Work boots, tattoos. That's the old profile. 518 00:28:52,662 --> 00:28:54,613 They're learning how to mainstream. 519 00:28:54,669 --> 00:28:57,816 They finally realized the more they blend in, the more effective they'll be. 520 00:28:57,879 --> 00:29:00,194 C.D.'s, Web sites, video games... 521 00:29:00,253 --> 00:29:03,707 The movement's discovered a variety of ways to disseminate the message. 522 00:29:03,764 --> 00:29:06,752 This generates millions of dollars in revenue annually. 523 00:29:06,807 --> 00:29:10,558 Where does the money go? To fund various causes and activities. 524 00:29:10,619 --> 00:29:13,664 Their ultimate goal is the creation of a white Christian nation... 525 00:29:13,729 --> 00:29:16,010 cleansed of minorities. 526 00:29:16,069 --> 00:29:18,611 That's insane. Yeah, they want to destroy our government, 527 00:29:18,678 --> 00:29:21,597 our Constitution, the very system of justice that protects them. 528 00:29:21,654 --> 00:29:23,969 They're terrorists. Absolutely. 529 00:29:24,028 --> 00:29:27,380 Oklahoma City has been eclipsed by the events of 9/11. 530 00:29:27,438 --> 00:29:29,981 But these American terrorists are still out there, 531 00:29:30,047 --> 00:29:32,088 and we can't necessarily tell who they are. 532 00:29:32,154 --> 00:29:34,765 Mellors seems to have had a normal suburban childhood. 533 00:29:34,828 --> 00:29:37,839 His dad's a doctor. Mom works in an office. 534 00:29:37,905 --> 00:29:42,192 He's been to Germany every summer the last four years. 535 00:29:42,252 --> 00:29:45,798 Back to the source. A right-wing nationalist music festival. 536 00:29:45,863 --> 00:29:48,611 He promotes his bands, smuggles his C.D.'s into Germany. 537 00:29:48,672 --> 00:29:51,420 He sells them on the black market. They're illegal there. 538 00:29:51,481 --> 00:29:54,731 Gets to rub elbows with neo-Nazis from all over the world. 539 00:29:54,791 --> 00:29:57,277 That must give him a charge. He may also feel diminished... 540 00:29:57,333 --> 00:29:59,841 by the hardcore kids in comparison. 541 00:29:59,907 --> 00:30:03,955 A middle-class boy like Mellors probably has no experience with actual violence. 542 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:06,529 So up to this point, it's all been vicarious. 543 00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:08,808 So, maybe he wants a taste of the real thing. 544 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:10,979 Excuse me. 545 00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:16,426 Southerlyn. 546 00:30:20,138 --> 00:30:22,088 Pick him up. 547 00:30:25,422 --> 00:30:27,873 Back again? Yeah. Remember the C.D. you laid on us? 548 00:30:27,929 --> 00:30:29,879 Oh, you like it? Oh, we loved it. 549 00:30:29,935 --> 00:30:33,014 Especially the part where your fingerprints match some prints we found at the crime scene. 550 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:35,827 You're under arrest for the murder of Leah Glaser. Call Graham Wilson. 551 00:30:35,888 --> 00:30:38,305 You have the right to remain silent, which I highly recommend. 552 00:30:38,362 --> 00:30:40,574 You have the right to an attorney 553 00:30:40,636 --> 00:30:43,989 You're going down Mr. Mellors, and your hero's going with you. 554 00:30:44,047 --> 00:30:46,088 What if it was an accident? 555 00:30:46,153 --> 00:30:49,403 If someone went there to talk to her, not to kill her, 556 00:30:49,464 --> 00:30:52,976 and events transpired in a certain tragic, unforeseen way, 557 00:30:53,042 --> 00:30:54,992 wouldn't that be manslaughter? 558 00:30:55,048 --> 00:30:57,899 We know that Leah Glaser didn't die accidentally. 559 00:30:57,958 --> 00:31:01,469 After her killer knocked her down and cracked her skull, he smothered her. 560 00:31:01,535 --> 00:31:05,891 I won't entertain anything less than murder one for Mr. Anders. 561 00:31:05,949 --> 00:31:08,697 Your client, on the other hand, can still plead to murder two as a hate crime. 562 00:31:08,758 --> 00:31:11,711 As a hate crime? What the hell does that mean? 563 00:31:11,767 --> 00:31:14,219 Adds five years to your sentence. 564 00:31:14,276 --> 00:31:16,761 Twenty to life, Mr. Mellors. That's as good as it gets. 565 00:31:16,817 --> 00:31:21,573 Tell us what transpired between you and Mr. Anders, and you may not spend the rest of your life in prison. 566 00:31:21,632 --> 00:31:25,714 I keep telling you... Mr. Anders had nothing to do with this. 567 00:31:27,818 --> 00:31:30,064 How would you know if you weren't there? 568 00:31:31,798 --> 00:31:36,450 Just as I thought. We're trying you both for murder in the first degree. 569 00:31:36,513 --> 00:31:38,463 Together. 570 00:31:41,695 --> 00:31:45,412 Mellors can bob and weave as much as he wants. I have no doubt of his guilt. 571 00:31:45,474 --> 00:31:47,960 You're still on the fence about Anders? 572 00:31:48,016 --> 00:31:52,167 I want to be sure I'm trying Anders for the crimes he committed in this century, 573 00:31:52,229 --> 00:31:54,475 not the ones he committed in the past. 574 00:31:54,536 --> 00:31:58,687 Some of the strongest cases we've tried have been based on circumstantial evidence. 575 00:31:58,749 --> 00:32:00,995 Despite his protestations to the contrary, 576 00:32:01,057 --> 00:32:04,067 Anders stood to substantially gain from her death. 577 00:32:04,132 --> 00:32:06,117 His D.N.A. was at the crime scene, 578 00:32:06,173 --> 00:32:11,030 and he had the locket that she wore around her neck every day of her life in his possession. 579 00:32:11,088 --> 00:32:16,243 I mean, except for a videotape of the crime, I can't think of what more you could want. 580 00:32:16,305 --> 00:32:20,456 Mellors keeps claiming that Anders wasn't involved. 581 00:32:20,518 --> 00:32:23,505 Well, let him take the stand and tell that to the jury. 582 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,511 I don't think he'll be taking the stand. 583 00:32:25,567 --> 00:32:28,349 We'd bury him with all this neo-Nazi stuff. 584 00:32:28,409 --> 00:32:31,123 No, I don't suppose he would. 585 00:32:31,185 --> 00:32:34,001 Which means that Anders just about has to. 586 00:32:39,678 --> 00:32:42,163 We analyzed a set of bilateral thumbprints... 587 00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:45,070 and two full sets of fingerprints found on the frame... 588 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:47,204 surrounding Mrs. Glaser's door. 589 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:51,989 - Did you identify these fingerprints? - Yes. They belong to the defendant, Kyle Mellors. 590 00:32:52,051 --> 00:32:55,802 Did you find any other fingerprints belonging to Mr. Mellors? 591 00:32:55,863 --> 00:32:59,820 Yes. On Mrs. Glaser's locket, we found a thumb and forefinger. 592 00:32:59,875 --> 00:33:02,383 What about the co-defendant, Stefan Anders? 593 00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:05,871 His prints were also found on Mrs. Glaser's locket What about at the crime scene? 594 00:33:05,928 --> 00:33:09,975 No prints. However, the Latent unit did find two sweat smudges... 595 00:33:10,041 --> 00:33:12,458 one on the doorknob and one on the door... 596 00:33:12,515 --> 00:33:15,195 about five feet, eight inches from the floor. 597 00:33:15,257 --> 00:33:18,872 - Were you able to make a positive I.D.? - They belong to the defendant, Stefan Anders. 598 00:33:18,936 --> 00:33:23,416 And your conclusion about how these smudge came to be on Mrs. Glaser's door? 599 00:33:23,483 --> 00:33:25,558 The height of the defendant indicates... 600 00:33:25,623 --> 00:33:28,839 he gripped the doorknob and leaned his forehead against the door. 601 00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:34,458 No questions of this witness, Your Honor. 602 00:33:34,517 --> 00:33:36,969 Did you find traces of my client... 603 00:33:37,026 --> 00:33:39,945 anywhere inside Mrs. Glaser's apartment? 604 00:33:40,001 --> 00:33:41,678 None. 605 00:33:41,741 --> 00:33:44,694 So, your analysis puts my client at her door, 606 00:33:44,751 --> 00:33:46,701 but not inside her apartment? 607 00:33:46,757 --> 00:33:49,174 Yes. 608 00:33:49,231 --> 00:33:51,273 Now, scientifically, you can't determine... 609 00:33:51,338 --> 00:33:56,093 whether the D.N.A. sample and the various prints were left at the same time, can you? 610 00:33:56,153 --> 00:33:57,864 No. 611 00:33:57,925 --> 00:34:01,345 So, for all you know, my client, Stefan Anders, 612 00:34:01,402 --> 00:34:04,583 was there one day outside the apartment door... 613 00:34:04,646 --> 00:34:08,295 and Mr. Mellors on another day entirely... 614 00:34:08,357 --> 00:34:11,436 outside and inside the apartment? 615 00:34:11,501 --> 00:34:13,543 That's certainly possible, yes. 616 00:34:15,714 --> 00:34:17,721 No further questions. 617 00:34:23,372 --> 00:34:27,852 As the co-owner of Heritage Records with Mr. Mellors, what is your mission statement? 618 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,565 To make money. No ideology? 619 00:34:30,628 --> 00:34:33,445 Capitalism. Capitalism is our ideology. 620 00:34:33,504 --> 00:34:36,218 Are you a Nazi, neo-Nazi, fascist? 621 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,860 I've been called all those things, but what I am is an independent entrepreneur. 622 00:34:39,925 --> 00:34:41,875 Is Mr. Mellors a neo-Nazi? 623 00:34:41,931 --> 00:34:43,915 Objection! If Mr. Mellors... 624 00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:46,547 wants to speak to his political beliefs, 625 00:34:46,612 --> 00:34:48,562 let him take the stand. 626 00:34:48,618 --> 00:34:52,164 - Sustained. - Some of your bands espouse rather radical views. 627 00:34:52,229 --> 00:34:54,714 That's their right under the First Amendment. 628 00:34:54,771 --> 00:34:58,123 Do you share their views? I believe in what sells. 629 00:34:58,182 --> 00:35:00,132 Look, it's just music. 630 00:35:00,188 --> 00:35:02,195 It's loud, it's extreme, it's rebellious, 631 00:35:02,262 --> 00:35:05,478 it's in-your-face, and it drives their parents crazy. 632 00:35:05,539 --> 00:35:09,495 That's why the kids like it. That's what it's all about. 633 00:35:09,551 --> 00:35:11,558 It's just music? 634 00:35:13,932 --> 00:35:16,213 “Kill all the niggers, 635 00:35:16,272 --> 00:35:18,587 “kill all the Jews, 636 00:35:18,646 --> 00:35:21,827 fire up the ovens, there's no time to lose." 637 00:35:21,890 --> 00:35:24,901 - Do you recognize these lyrics? - I can't say that I do. 638 00:35:24,967 --> 00:35:28,980 They're from an album you produced with Kyle Mellors. 639 00:35:29,045 --> 00:35:31,395 The group is called American Reichstag. 640 00:35:31,454 --> 00:35:35,535 Do you think every black record exec who produces a gangster rap track... 641 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,949 thinks we should kill cops or, uh, 642 00:35:38,008 --> 00:35:40,493 beat those ho's and bitches? 643 00:35:40,548 --> 00:35:44,403 - It's about selling records. - Critics call it “hate rock." 644 00:35:44,461 --> 00:35:47,003 Your own Web site calls it “hate core." 645 00:35:47,069 --> 00:35:50,924 People who buy it also call it "heritage music. ” 646 00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:55,201 It's music. Don't we still have freedom of speech in this country? 647 00:35:55,262 --> 00:35:57,246 The First Amendment isn't absolute. 648 00:35:57,301 --> 00:36:01,760 If your speech incites and results in violence, it's not protected. 649 00:36:01,816 --> 00:36:04,827 Isn't that what you're doing? Inciting people to kill? No. 650 00:36:04,892 --> 00:36:07,241 We're inciting people to buy records. 651 00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,808 “Kill all the blacks. 652 00:36:09,875 --> 00:36:13,125 Kill all the Jews." 653 00:36:13,185 --> 00:36:15,967 If one of your songs results in someone's death, 654 00:36:16,027 --> 00:36:19,014 aren't you culpable? I don't see it that way. 655 00:36:20,307 --> 00:36:22,656 Right. You're just putting money... 656 00:36:22,715 --> 00:36:24,825 in the pockets of people who advocate... 657 00:36:24,889 --> 00:36:27,501 the extermination of other human beings. 658 00:36:30,473 --> 00:36:32,788 I went to her apartment. 659 00:36:32,847 --> 00:36:35,424 Not the day of the murder... another day. 660 00:36:37,562 --> 00:36:40,915 I thought if she looked in my eyes, 661 00:36:40,973 --> 00:36:44,450 she would see I am not the man she thought I was. 662 00:36:44,517 --> 00:36:47,562 Did you see her? She wouldn't open the door, so I spoke to her... 663 00:36:47,627 --> 00:36:50,580 for a few minutes from the hall, 664 00:36:50,636 --> 00:36:53,316 and she asked me to leave and I left. 665 00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:56,833 And Leah Glaser was still alive. Of course. 666 00:36:56,889 --> 00:36:59,603 You were a guard at Bobrek. 667 00:37:01,236 --> 00:37:05,455 I was a soldier. I went where I was ordered to go. 668 00:37:05,517 --> 00:37:07,626 Did you ever kill anyone? 669 00:37:07,690 --> 00:37:11,145 In combat? Probably. 670 00:37:11,202 --> 00:37:13,778 But at the camp? No. Definitely no. 671 00:37:13,843 --> 00:37:17,195 Did you know the deceased, Leah Glaser? No. 672 00:37:17,254 --> 00:37:19,671 Did you remember her at all from the camp? 673 00:37:19,728 --> 00:37:22,009 It was 60 years ago. 674 00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:25,057 There were hundreds of prisoners. I don't remember them. 675 00:37:25,112 --> 00:37:27,027 She remembered you. 676 00:37:27,085 --> 00:37:29,229 She saw me every day... 677 00:37:29,292 --> 00:37:31,242 every morning, every evening. 678 00:37:31,298 --> 00:37:33,681 She saw my photograph; she recognized me. 679 00:37:33,739 --> 00:37:37,594 She remembered me from the camp, okay, but she was confused. 680 00:37:37,651 --> 00:37:41,870 She has me confused with someone else, another guard 681 00:37:41,931 --> 00:37:46,390 I didn't kill anyone in the camp, and I didn't kill her. I had no reason to. 682 00:37:46,446 --> 00:37:50,129 Her death is the worst thing that could have happened to me. 683 00:37:50,191 --> 00:37:54,045 Whatever happens here, now I will be deported. 684 00:37:54,103 --> 00:37:57,250 Because someone killed her. 685 00:37:57,313 --> 00:37:59,696 Someone. 686 00:37:59,755 --> 00:38:02,172 Not me. 687 00:38:02,229 --> 00:38:04,977 Your witness. 688 00:38:06,309 --> 00:38:09,559 You weren't the guard Leah Glaser remembered from the camp? 689 00:38:09,619 --> 00:38:13,404 - The one she saw kill six prisoners? - No. 690 00:38:15,671 --> 00:38:19,525 I have no further questions for this witness at this time, Your Honor. 691 00:38:19,583 --> 00:38:22,902 I reserve the right to continue my cross-examination. 692 00:38:22,961 --> 00:38:26,381 - Mr. Jensen? - In that case, Your Honor, 693 00:38:26,439 --> 00:38:28,445 the defendant, Anders, rests. 694 00:38:28,512 --> 00:38:31,898 Mr. Wilson? Yes, Your Honor. The defendant, Mellors, rests. 695 00:38:33,093 --> 00:38:35,476 The witness may step down. 696 00:38:37,172 --> 00:38:41,597 Your Honor, I would like to call a rebuttal witness. Leah Glaser. 697 00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:44,834 Your Honor, I would like to renew my application... 698 00:38:44,897 --> 00:38:48,580 to exclude this videotaped testimony as highly prejudicial. 699 00:38:48,642 --> 00:38:50,626 Her Shoah testimony directly refutes... 700 00:38:50,681 --> 00:38:53,498 what Mr. Anders just testified to under oath. 701 00:38:53,558 --> 00:38:55,941 Your Honor, it's hearsay, it's prejudicial. 702 00:38:55,999 --> 00:38:58,143 There's obviously no opportunity to cross-examine. 703 00:38:58,206 --> 00:39:01,855 Mr. Jensen had ample opportunity to cross-examine Leah Glaser... 704 00:39:01,918 --> 00:39:04,301 when he deposed her on this very subject. 705 00:39:04,358 --> 00:39:08,474 Counsel can read the relevant portions of that proceeding into the record. 706 00:39:08,538 --> 00:39:11,218 Your Honor, this is not fair! 707 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,031 The emotional impact of seeing the deceased's videotaped testimony... 708 00:39:15,092 --> 00:39:18,444 will far outweigh a dry reading of a deposition. 709 00:39:18,502 --> 00:39:20,988 I'll review your memos once more. 710 00:39:21,044 --> 00:39:24,191 Court will stand at recess until 2:00. 711 00:39:30,908 --> 00:39:34,956 The guards would walk us to and from the factory each day 712 00:39:36,593 --> 00:39:38,544 Some of them, 713 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,610 if we did not walk quickly, 714 00:39:41,675 --> 00:39:43,626 they would beat us. 715 00:39:43,683 --> 00:39:47,662 The one in charge, he was different. 716 00:39:47,729 --> 00:39:50,545 “Bitte, bitte," he would always say, "Please. ” 717 00:39:51,641 --> 00:39:53,990 He was polite. 718 00:39:54,048 --> 00:39:56,192 Always polite. 719 00:39:56,255 --> 00:39:59,140 Beautiful manners, elegant, 720 00:39:59,198 --> 00:40:02,209 but cold... cold as ice. 721 00:40:03,411 --> 00:40:05,487 Not human. 722 00:40:05,551 --> 00:40:09,005 His name was Anders, I think. 723 00:40:09,063 --> 00:40:13,920 One day, one of the prisoners fell and couldn't get up. 724 00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:18,026 He came over. "Bitte, bitte, "I heard him say. 725 00:40:18,091 --> 00:40:20,907 “Get up, please." 726 00:40:23,542 --> 00:40:27,019 She couldn't get up, 727 00:40:29,393 --> 00:40:32,244 so he shot her... 728 00:40:32,303 --> 00:40:34,287 in the face. 729 00:40:36,148 --> 00:40:38,828 And then he shot five other women, 730 00:40:38,890 --> 00:40:41,466 the ones who cried. 731 00:40:41,532 --> 00:40:45,386 One, two, three, four, five. 732 00:40:47,618 --> 00:40:50,035 Like it was nothing. 733 00:40:53,302 --> 00:40:57,156 And then he looked at the rest of us and said, "Bitte, bitte," 734 00:40:57,214 --> 00:41:00,533 and we went to work like nothing happened. 735 00:41:02,598 --> 00:41:05,848 The fifth one he shot, number five, 736 00:41:08,617 --> 00:41:11,034 was my sister Rebekkah, 737 00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:18,292 my little sister. 738 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:25,414 Why? 739 00:41:37,106 --> 00:41:39,490 Have you reached a verdict? We have. 740 00:41:39,548 --> 00:41:41,794 As to the defendant Kyle Mellors, 741 00:41:41,855 --> 00:41:45,332 on the first count of the indictment, murder in the first degree, how do you find? 742 00:41:45,399 --> 00:41:49,584 We find the defendant, Kyle Mellors, guilty 743 00:41:49,647 --> 00:41:51,722 As to the defendant Stefan Anders, 744 00:41:51,786 --> 00:41:54,865 on the first count of the indictment, murder in the first degree, 745 00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:59,616 how do you find? We find the defendant, Stefan Anders, guilty. 746 00:42:20,042 --> 00:42:22,357 Think Anders is telling the truth, 747 00:42:22,416 --> 00:42:25,803 that he didn't have anything to do with Leah Glaser's murder? 748 00:42:25,861 --> 00:42:28,506 They knew a guilty man when they saw one.