1
00:00:01,134 --> 00:00:03,084
In the criminal justice system,
2
00:00:03,140 --> 00:00:06,789
the people are represented by two separate
yet equally important groups-
3
00:00:06,852 --> 00:00:08,734
the police, who investigate crime,
4
00:00:08,792 --> 00:00:11,506
and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
5
00:00:11,567 --> 00:00:13,346
These are their stories.
6
00:00:15,579 --> 00:00:18,031
Laurie, I need more cash.
7
00:00:18,088 --> 00:00:20,300
Hey, where's my free egg roll?
No egg roll.
8
00:00:20,362 --> 00:00:23,406
It says over $25, you're
supposed to get a free egg roll.
No egg roll.
9
00:00:23,471 --> 00:00:27,656
I told them not to put it in.
Fried dumplings and orange chicken...
You don't need any more grease.
10
00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:30,261
Here you go. Keep the change.
But I like the egg rolls.
11
00:00:30,326 --> 00:00:32,504
Stop being a baby.
Come on.
12
00:00:46,845 --> 00:00:48,851
Oh, my God.
13
00:00:49,621 --> 00:00:52,802
Leah Glaser, 78.
She took a nasty tumble.
14
00:00:52,864 --> 00:00:54,540
Well, what makes it not an accident?
15
00:00:54,603 --> 00:00:57,385
Security chain's ripped off the door jamb.
Well, that would do it.
16
00:00:57,445 --> 00:01:00,990
Looks like a push-in, but the TV's
still here and so is her purse.
17
00:01:01,056 --> 00:01:03,007
And we're checking on her next of kin.
18
00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,172
Brody, what do you got?
19
00:01:05,236 --> 00:01:07,688
Lacerated forehead,
massive head trauma.
20
00:01:07,744 --> 00:01:09,694
You can tell from the fling.
21
00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:11,860
She fell back, hit her head,
fractured her skull.
22
00:01:11,924 --> 00:01:16,884
So, she opens the door with the
chain on, somebody kicks it in, and...
23
00:01:16,940 --> 00:01:20,121
boom.
Yeah, right between the eyes.
Time of death?
24
00:01:20,184 --> 00:01:22,465
An hour before the body was found.
25
00:01:22,524 --> 00:01:25,705
Hey, make sure that C.S.U.
gets any lifts to Latent.
26
00:01:25,768 --> 00:01:28,310
After she fractured her skull,
she was still alive.
27
00:01:28,376 --> 00:01:30,588
How do you know that?
Petechial hemorrhages.
28
00:01:30,650 --> 00:01:33,102
Smothered her.
With his hand, so hard...
29
00:01:33,158 --> 00:01:35,700
her dentures lacerated her gums.
30
00:01:35,766 --> 00:01:37,773
Vicious son of a bitch.
Hey, Ed
31
00:01:38,909 --> 00:01:42,295
She paid for these groceries at 3:33 p.m.
32
00:01:42,354 --> 00:01:44,304
There's a quart of milk in here...
33
00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,777
and a pint of half-melted ice cream.
34
00:01:46,834 --> 00:01:49,012
Well, obviously she didn't have
time to put them away.
35
00:01:49,075 --> 00:01:52,860
So, the guy figured her
for an easy mark, followed her
home from the store.
36
00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,501
You know, that's a lot
of groceries for an old lady
to carry home by herself.
37
00:01:56,565 --> 00:01:58,811
Maybe she had them delivered.
38
00:01:58,872 --> 00:02:01,620
Well, whoever it was,
I wonder what he took.
39
00:02:01,681 --> 00:02:03,996
The only thing that mattered.
40
00:02:56,019 --> 00:02:58,939
Mrs. Glaser's daughter is flying in
from Israel to I.D. the body.
41
00:02:58,995 --> 00:03:01,104
We're hoping that maybe
she could shed some light.
42
00:03:01,169 --> 00:03:05,558
Good news, bad news. Latent's pulled
a full set of prints off the door jamb.
43
00:03:05,616 --> 00:03:08,466
He must have grabbed it with both
hands when he kicked the door in.
44
00:03:08,525 --> 00:03:10,943
Prints didn't set off any bells with B.C.I.?
45
00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,950
That's the bad news.
They're not in the system.
46
00:03:13,006 --> 00:03:15,856
The M.E. on the scene
said that she'd been dead
about an hour, give or take.
47
00:03:15,915 --> 00:03:19,370
According to the store,
her groceries were delivered
around 4:00 p.m.
48
00:03:19,426 --> 00:03:22,676
The delivery guy's a West African
immigrant. No record.
49
00:03:22,737 --> 00:03:27,058
And the body was discovered?
6:00, by another delivery man,
Chinese take-out.
50
00:03:27,118 --> 00:03:29,900
Nice thing about New York...
You never have to leave your apartment.
51
00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,106
So she was killed around 5:00?
52
00:03:33,170 --> 00:03:37,594
Yeah, we figure maybe the guy
scoped her out at the store,
then followed her groceries home.
53
00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:40,604
Or maybe the guy who delivered
the groceries saw something
that he liked...
54
00:03:40,660 --> 00:03:43,670
and decided to go back for it.
We'll talk to him first.
55
00:03:43,736 --> 00:03:48,526
Well, I'll call Robbery and see
if there have been any other
push-ins in the neighborhood.
56
00:03:48,585 --> 00:03:50,694
Every Wednesday.
Yesterday too?
57
00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:53,746
No, not yesterday.
You didn't deliver her groceries yesterday?
58
00:03:53,801 --> 00:03:56,150
She meet her friend,
Miss Lu, at the store.
59
00:03:56,209 --> 00:03:58,285
Miss Lu?
Chinese young lady.
60
00:03:58,349 --> 00:04:00,527
She take the groceries.
They walk home together.
61
00:04:00,590 --> 00:04:03,406
How do you know Miss Lu?
Same building, down the hall.
62
00:04:03,465 --> 00:04:06,247
I deliver her groceries too sometimes.
63
00:04:07,578 --> 00:04:10,292
I got to know Leah when
she broke her hip last summer.
64
00:04:10,354 --> 00:04:12,771
She was laid up
at St. Andrew's for a month.
65
00:04:12,828 --> 00:04:14,904
I went to see her every day.
66
00:04:14,968 --> 00:04:19,255
We'd talk about sewing.
She used to be a seamstress.
67
00:04:19,315 --> 00:04:21,265
She offered to make me a cup of tea.
68
00:04:21,321 --> 00:04:23,739
Maybe if I'd stayed...
No, it wasn't your fault.
69
00:04:23,796 --> 00:04:25,746
Did you notice anybody in the store...
70
00:04:25,802 --> 00:04:28,721
that might have followed the two of you home?
I don't think so, no.
71
00:04:28,779 --> 00:04:31,355
How about as you came in the building?
Anybody catch your eye?
72
00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:34,305
I rode up with her, helped her
get her groceries inside,
and went home.
73
00:04:34,363 --> 00:04:37,042
What time was that?
Around 4:00.
74
00:04:37,104 --> 00:04:41,118
You know, on the way home,
we stopped at the A.T.M. across the street
so Leah could get some cash.
75
00:04:41,184 --> 00:04:43,796
We found her, all she had
was a few bucks in her purse.
76
00:04:43,859 --> 00:04:47,747
She didn't have a purse.
I remember she took
her bank card out of her pocket.
77
00:04:47,805 --> 00:04:50,222
How much did she withdraw?
A hundred dollars, maybe.
78
00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:53,062
Elderly woman with a wad of cash?
79
00:04:53,122 --> 00:04:56,269
Let's call the lieutenant.
Let's get a list of those
push-in robbery victims.
80
00:04:56,332 --> 00:04:58,338
Thank you, sweetheart.
81
00:05:01,213 --> 00:05:03,494
Yeah, well, it happened
just inside here.
82
00:05:03,555 --> 00:05:06,268
I had a bag full of groceries,
cat food and stuff like that.
83
00:05:06,331 --> 00:05:09,147
I put the bag down, take out my key,
84
00:05:09,206 --> 00:05:11,657
put it in the lock here, open the door,
85
00:05:11,714 --> 00:05:13,664
and bam!
86
00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,671
There I am, kissing the floor!
87
00:05:15,727 --> 00:05:19,478
Then the bastard had a gun
to the back of my head,
88
00:05:19,538 --> 00:05:22,525
told me if I turned around,
he'd shoot me.
89
00:05:22,582 --> 00:05:25,535
Now, you told the police
that the guy that robbed you
was Latino?
90
00:05:25,591 --> 00:05:29,742
Yeah, yeah. He was Spanish.
Can you give us anything else?
91
00:05:29,804 --> 00:05:32,381
Uh, height, weight, color, age?
92
00:05:32,446 --> 00:05:34,396
Yeah, 40, maybe.
93
00:05:34,452 --> 00:05:36,596
Uh, light-skinned.
94
00:05:36,659 --> 00:05:39,373
I was too scared to look him
square in the face, you know?
95
00:05:39,435 --> 00:05:42,548
Do you take photographs, Mr. Wallace?
Stargaze, up on the roof.
96
00:05:42,611 --> 00:05:45,827
It was a beauty of a telescope.
97
00:05:45,888 --> 00:05:48,773
Punk went right for it.
98
00:05:48,831 --> 00:05:51,443
Ten or 15 years ago,
I would have taken him out,
you know?
99
00:05:51,506 --> 00:05:54,858
No fun getting old, huh?
Beats the alternative.
100
00:05:54,916 --> 00:05:59,170
Of course, when I'm
lugging these old bones
over to St. Andrew's,
101
00:05:59,231 --> 00:06:01,146
I'm not too sure
I'm beating it by much.
102
00:06:01,203 --> 00:06:04,521
- St. Andrew's?
- Yeah. That's where I get my dialysis.
103
00:06:04,580 --> 00:06:09,164
Same hospital where Leah Glaser
had her hip surgery.
104
00:06:09,228 --> 00:06:12,216
Of the 12 names on this list,
five were our patients.
105
00:06:12,272 --> 00:06:16,593
And their home addresses
are in your records, right?
Strictly confidential.
106
00:06:16,652 --> 00:06:19,970
And access to computers and patient
records is tightly controlled.
107
00:06:20,030 --> 00:06:23,416
Yeah, but you've got all kinds
of folks coming in and out
of patients' rooms, right?
108
00:06:23,473 --> 00:06:25,423
Nurses, orderlies, visitors.
109
00:06:25,479 --> 00:06:28,433
Somebody takes a look
in a purse, peeks into a wallet...
110
00:06:28,489 --> 00:06:30,666
You're talking about
two stroke victims,
111
00:06:30,730 --> 00:06:33,808
a kidney patient, a cardiac patient,
and a woman who had hip surgery.
112
00:06:33,873 --> 00:06:37,454
That's four separate floors,
two different wings.
113
00:06:37,517 --> 00:06:40,664
And only the broken hip
spent any real time here.
Well, what about the other ones?
114
00:06:40,728 --> 00:06:44,012
As soon
as they're ambulatory,
we send them home.
115
00:06:44,071 --> 00:06:46,785
- Man, that's cold.
- “Managed care."
116
00:06:46,847 --> 00:06:49,025
Emphasis on “managed.“
117
00:06:49,087 --> 00:06:51,071
We have excellent
follow-up therapy.
118
00:06:51,128 --> 00:06:55,107
Every patient gets
a qualified caregiver and a thorough
home therapy regimen.
119
00:06:55,173 --> 00:06:57,659
You got a list of these
qualified caregivers?
120
00:06:57,715 --> 00:06:59,961
We contract all that
to a private agency.
121
00:07:03,466 --> 00:07:06,454
All of our employees
are screened and fingerprinted
122
00:07:06,509 --> 00:07:09,325
Okay, we're gonna need
their records and the names...
123
00:07:09,385 --> 00:07:11,700
of whoever took care
of these five patients.
124
00:07:13,130 --> 00:07:17,053
Leah Glaser. Broken hip.
Sweet old lady.
125
00:07:18,447 --> 00:07:20,397
Pauline Morris.
Pauline's a doll.
126
00:07:20,453 --> 00:07:23,463
Been with us seven years.
Never had any complaints.
Patients love her.
127
00:07:23,529 --> 00:07:26,141
Okay. How about the other four?
128
00:07:28,077 --> 00:07:30,689
Well, that's a coincidence.
129
00:07:30,752 --> 00:07:34,367
Pauline was the caregiver for all five.
130
00:07:34,431 --> 00:07:36,609
Some coincidence.
131
00:07:36,671 --> 00:07:39,887
What's this about?
Your work with the elderly.
132
00:07:39,948 --> 00:07:42,696
Yes?
You know a Leah Glaser?
133
00:07:42,757 --> 00:07:44,901
One of my patients.
134
00:07:46,669 --> 00:07:49,520
You like astronomy, Ms. Morris?
That's my son's.
135
00:07:49,579 --> 00:07:53,660
The mount's still attached.
Where's the tripod?
136
00:07:53,725 --> 00:07:57,841
We got it secondhand.
Yeah, I think the term
these days is “pre-owned."
137
00:07:57,905 --> 00:07:59,980
I'm sorry...
This is a pretty good scam.
138
00:08:00,044 --> 00:08:03,328
You help out the elderly, and then
you help yourself to their things.
What?
139
00:08:03,388 --> 00:08:07,277
The telescope.
We're betting it belonged
to a Stan Wallace.
140
00:08:07,334 --> 00:08:11,519
You think I stole that from him?
In the last six months,
you've had nine patients.
141
00:08:11,581 --> 00:08:14,865
Five of them have been robbed at gunpoint.
How's it work?
142
00:08:14,925 --> 00:08:18,540
You identify the mark and then
when you're gone, somebody comes in
and terrorizes these old folks?
143
00:08:18,603 --> 00:08:20,815
I swear, I don't know what
you're talking about.
144
00:08:20,877 --> 00:08:23,089
How did Mr. Wallace's telescope
end up in your apartment?
145
00:08:23,151 --> 00:08:25,135
That's not Mr. Wallace's!
146
00:08:25,191 --> 00:08:28,235
It was a gift for my son's
graduation from my fiancé.
147
00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:31,254
- He bought it at a flea market.
- Oh, yeah? What's your fiancé's name?
148
00:08:31,310 --> 00:08:34,354
Joe Vasquez.
And he works in the health care business too?
149
00:08:34,419 --> 00:08:36,370
He drives for an ambulette service.
150
00:08:36,426 --> 00:08:39,208
Yeah, what, picks them up
at home, takes them
to the doctor, like that?
151
00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:41,949
Yes.
152
00:08:42,011 --> 00:08:44,691
You don't think Joe...
Actually, we do.
153
00:08:44,753 --> 00:08:46,703
Where can we find Joe now?
154
00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:49,575
Working.
155
00:08:49,634 --> 00:08:51,778
He told me this was
his grandmother's.
156
00:08:51,841 --> 00:08:55,057
Yeah, it was somebody's
grandmother's.
157
00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:58,664
You casing new prospects, Joe?
Say again?
158
00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:03,211
She ain't got no doorman.
Nice old lady needs a hand.
just like your other jobs.
159
00:09:03,278 --> 00:09:06,094
Don't know what you're
talking about. I have one job.
You're looking at it. Okay?
160
00:09:06,153 --> 00:09:10,542
Well, we'd love to take your word
for it, Joe, but one of your references
checked out permanently.
161
00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,109
What are you doing, man?
You an astronomy buff, Joe?
162
00:09:13,175 --> 00:09:15,319
What?
That telescope you gave your fiancée?
163
00:09:15,383 --> 00:09:17,664
We know where you got it,
and it wasn't at a flea market.
164
00:09:17,723 --> 00:09:19,901
You've heard of the seven rings of Saturn?
165
00:09:19,964 --> 00:09:22,279
These are the two rings of Rikers.
166
00:09:27,053 --> 00:09:31,272
I ain't robbed nobody, okay?
We got an eyewitness who
picked you out of a six-pack, Joe.
167
00:09:31,332 --> 00:09:34,878
One of your victims.
Eyewitness to what? I ain't done nothing.
168
00:09:34,944 --> 00:09:37,486
We got people searching
your place as we speak.
169
00:09:37,553 --> 00:09:40,871
And what do you think
they're gonna find, huh?
All right, look.
170
00:09:40,930 --> 00:09:43,849
Maybe I buy and sell some stuff
sometimes, you know,
off the books, okay?
171
00:09:43,905 --> 00:09:48,990
Oh, so you're just a fence, right?
Not an armed robber
who preys on old people.
172
00:09:49,055 --> 00:09:52,100
Look, I take stuff
on consignment, you know?
173
00:09:52,165 --> 00:09:54,115
I ain't no armed robber.
174
00:09:54,171 --> 00:09:56,783
What are we gonna find
in your place, Joe? Something
belonging to a dead woman?
175
00:09:56,846 --> 00:10:00,267
Dead woman? No way.
Uh-uh. No way, man.
176
00:10:00,324 --> 00:10:03,004
You fractured an old lady's skull
and smothered her
during a robbery.
177
00:10:03,066 --> 00:10:06,886
- We call that felony murder.
- I told you. I don't know nothing
about no dead lady!
178
00:10:06,945 --> 00:10:09,020
You don't know this woman?
179
00:10:09,085 --> 00:10:11,730
Never seen her.
Don't know her.
180
00:10:11,793 --> 00:10:15,078
Uh-uh. Take another look.
Come on, man.
181
00:10:15,138 --> 00:10:17,247
Don't you think I'd remember?
182
00:10:17,311 --> 00:10:19,695
Do you remember where you were
Wednesday afternoon?
183
00:10:19,752 --> 00:10:22,898
Wednesday? Wednesday...
184
00:10:22,963 --> 00:10:27,044
Yeah. Um-- Yeah, I dropped a guy off
at the clinic for an overnight.
185
00:10:27,109 --> 00:10:31,362
On the way back to the garage,
I got stuck on the F.D.R., jammed
in traffic for an hour and a half.
186
00:10:31,422 --> 00:10:34,967
No way in, no way out.
And no way for anybody to vouch for you.
187
00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:39,720
Talk to Dougie.
He's my dispatcher, okay?
188
00:10:39,782 --> 00:10:42,267
We spent the whole time
jawin' on the radio.
189
00:10:42,323 --> 00:10:46,975
I told him the next time
the damn president's in town,
I'm taking the day off.
190
00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:49,718
You guys want to know
about Vasquez, right?
191
00:10:49,780 --> 00:10:51,787
He's on 7:00 to 3:00,
weekdays.
192
00:10:51,853 --> 00:10:54,703
He said you two were burning up
the radio this last Wednesday.
193
00:10:54,762 --> 00:10:57,305
The president came in
to talk to the U.N. that day.
194
00:10:57,371 --> 00:11:00,358
Major meltdown.
Vasquez was in the middle of it,
goin' out of his mind.
195
00:11:00,413 --> 00:11:03,229
That's what he told you,
but you don't know that for a fact.
196
00:11:03,290 --> 00:11:06,642
Hey, I believed him,
because he kept calling me
to bitch about it.
197
00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:11,820
So whatever you think he did, he would
have had to do it with one hand on his
radio, because he never shut the hell up.
198
00:11:11,883 --> 00:11:14,996
Did Vasquez ever drive
an old lady named Leah Glaser?
199
00:11:15,060 --> 00:11:17,409
Name rings a bell.
200
00:11:18,872 --> 00:11:20,879
Uh...
201
00:11:21,882 --> 00:11:24,869
Uh, not Vasquez.
Johnny Kagan. Monday.
202
00:11:24,924 --> 00:11:29,383
Drove her downtown,
Federal Plaza. Why are you
interested in these guys?
203
00:11:29,438 --> 00:11:32,152
Vasquez and Kagan...
What do you know about them?
204
00:11:32,214 --> 00:11:34,722
Friends of my cousin.
Uh, came in a couple of years ago...
205
00:11:34,789 --> 00:11:37,104
looking to turn over
a new lease on life.
206
00:11:37,163 --> 00:11:39,546
Came here from where?
California.
207
00:11:39,604 --> 00:11:41,987
The two of them just finished
a nickel jolt out in Lompoc.
208
00:11:42,045 --> 00:11:44,930
"Nickel jolt." You sound like
an old yardbird yourself.
209
00:11:44,988 --> 00:11:47,873
Everybody deserves
a second chance, Detective.
210
00:11:47,930 --> 00:11:51,077
- What were they in for?
- Why don't you pull their sheets?
211
00:11:51,140 --> 00:11:53,455
Why don't you tell us
before we pull yours?
212
00:11:53,514 --> 00:11:55,520
I don't know.
213
00:11:55,587 --> 00:11:57,538
Armed robbery, maybe.
214
00:12:02,142 --> 00:12:04,593
Joe did some thing he shouldn't
have, that's his business.
215
00:12:04,650 --> 00:12:09,200
Yeah, we figure you and Vasquez
are in business together,
tag-teaming senior citizens.
216
00:12:09,264 --> 00:12:12,308
I'm straight these days, Detective.
Keep my nose to the grindstone.
217
00:12:12,374 --> 00:12:15,828
Your dispatcher said
that you picked up a client
named Leah Glaser Monday.
218
00:12:15,885 --> 00:12:19,899
If that's what he says.
Yeah, well, she's dead.
Somebody killed her.
219
00:12:19,965 --> 00:12:23,819
Now do we have your attention?
Man, I didn't have nothing to do with that.
220
00:12:23,876 --> 00:12:27,331
Where did you take her?
Dropped her off downtown
at Federal Plaza.
221
00:12:27,388 --> 00:12:29,839
How'd she get home?
Said she'd take a cab.
222
00:12:29,895 --> 00:12:32,438
Federal Plaza? You see
what building she went in?
No.
223
00:12:32,504 --> 00:12:35,320
No idea. And she didn't tell me
where she was going, okay?
224
00:12:35,380 --> 00:12:38,858
Can I get back to work now?
Yeah, go ahead. Get lost.
225
00:12:38,924 --> 00:12:42,140
Man, she could have gone anywhere...
courts, government offices.
226
00:12:42,201 --> 00:12:44,618
You ready to work off that lunch?
We didn't have lunch.
227
00:12:44,675 --> 00:12:48,153
Exactly.
I'm gonna call Lieu, tell her
we're gonna be a while.
228
00:12:49,357 --> 00:12:52,710
My mother was a survivor.
229
00:12:52,768 --> 00:12:56,154
I don't mean in the casual way...
230
00:12:56,212 --> 00:12:58,629
people say “I'm a survivor”...
231
00:12:58,686 --> 00:13:01,195
after they get a divorce.
232
00:13:01,261 --> 00:13:04,146
I mean literally
She was in a camp.
233
00:13:04,204 --> 00:13:06,155
In Poland.
234
00:13:06,211 --> 00:13:08,822
That she should
come through all that...
235
00:13:08,885 --> 00:13:12,637
and then die in some stupid holdup...
236
00:13:12,698 --> 00:13:15,914
Mrs. Meisner, have you been able
to go through your mother's things?
237
00:13:15,975 --> 00:13:18,221
Was there anything missing?
238
00:13:18,282 --> 00:13:22,204
A locket. A silver locket.
239
00:13:22,261 --> 00:13:25,147
It had a picture
of her mother and father...
240
00:13:25,204 --> 00:13:27,849
my grandparents.
241
00:13:27,913 --> 00:13:30,296
She never...
242
00:13:30,353 --> 00:13:32,303
She never took it off.
243
00:13:32,359 --> 00:13:36,441
It's the only thing she had
from her life before the war.
244
00:13:36,506 --> 00:13:39,288
God knows how she managed
to hang onto it.
245
00:13:39,348 --> 00:13:43,807
I'm sorry. She wasn't wearing any
other jewelry when she was found.
246
00:13:43,863 --> 00:13:46,509
I wanted to pass that along
to my daughter.
247
00:13:46,571 --> 00:13:50,824
Something to remember
her nana by.
248
00:13:51,821 --> 00:13:54,364
If we find it...
249
00:13:54,429 --> 00:13:57,348
Now, your mother had
an appointment downtown...
250
00:13:57,405 --> 00:14:00,917
near the courthouses
a couple of days before she died.
251
00:14:00,983 --> 00:14:03,400
Do you know why she might
have been down there?
252
00:14:03,457 --> 00:14:06,342
Any legal business
she might have had?
253
00:14:06,401 --> 00:14:08,909
A will, maybe. I don't know.
254
00:14:08,975 --> 00:14:11,153
Maybe she was getting her
passport renewed,
255
00:14:11,215 --> 00:14:13,165
planning to visit you in Israel?
256
00:14:13,221 --> 00:14:15,764
The last time I spoke to her,
she mentioned...
257
00:14:15,830 --> 00:14:18,510
she was going to Immigration again.
258
00:14:18,572 --> 00:14:21,491
Is that downtown?
Immigration... You know why?
259
00:14:21,548 --> 00:14:24,866
This was about
her Shoah testimony, I think.
260
00:14:24,926 --> 00:14:28,814
“Shoah testimony"?
The Shoah Project.
261
00:14:28,871 --> 00:14:32,325
It's a videotaped oral history
of the Holocaust...
262
00:14:32,383 --> 00:14:36,568
to record the truth
before all the witnesses are dead...
263
00:14:36,629 --> 00:14:39,548
and the whole world forgets
what happened.
264
00:14:42,948 --> 00:14:46,061
Leah Glaser...
She was here last Monday.
265
00:14:46,125 --> 00:14:49,512
What was she doing here?
It doesn't say.
266
00:14:49,570 --> 00:14:53,219
It's gotta be in there somewhere.
I'm looking.
267
00:14:54,686 --> 00:14:58,642
Some D.O.J. bigwig pulled her file.
Department of justice?
268
00:14:58,698 --> 00:15:01,150
Someone in Criminal Division.
When they pull a file,
269
00:15:01,207 --> 00:15:03,488
it usually has something to do
with Homeland Security.
270
00:15:03,547 --> 00:15:06,763
Her name was Leah Glaser.
She was 78 years old.
271
00:15:06,824 --> 00:15:09,400
Does that sound like
a security risk to you?
Don't ask me.
272
00:15:09,466 --> 00:15:11,416
Ask Criminal. Sixth floor.
273
00:15:14,649 --> 00:15:16,792
Our records show she met
with Dennis Mendenhall.
274
00:15:16,856 --> 00:15:18,806
Okay we 're gonna need
to talk to him.
275
00:15:18,862 --> 00:15:21,370
Dennis doesn't work
out of this office. He's with O.S.I.
276
00:15:21,436 --> 00:15:24,617
D.O.J., O.S.I...
Government alphabet soup.
277
00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,865
Office of Special Investigations.
Was Leah Glaser being investigated?
278
00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:31,539
Sorry. I'm not authorized
to talk about that.
279
00:15:31,602 --> 00:15:35,559
Look, we're not asking
because we're nosy.
Ms. Glaser was murdered.
280
00:15:35,615 --> 00:15:39,834
Oh, my God.
281
00:15:39,895 --> 00:15:43,008
- I wonder...
- You wonder what?
282
00:15:45,145 --> 00:15:48,395
She was a witness
in a deportation proceeding.
283
00:15:48,456 --> 00:15:51,933
If it was a deportation proceeding,
why wouldn't Immigration handle it?
284
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,048
Because O.S.I. handles all cases
relating to war crimes.
285
00:15:56,113 --> 00:15:58,963
- But she wasn't being investigated?
- No, she wasn't.
286
00:15:59,023 --> 00:16:03,104
She was testifying against
a camp guard, an S.S. officer.
287
00:16:03,168 --> 00:16:05,153
A Nazi.
288
00:16:08,552 --> 00:16:10,798
Stefan Anders, German national,
289
00:16:10,859 --> 00:16:13,105
immigrated here in 1948.
290
00:16:13,167 --> 00:16:15,311
And you think he's a Nazi?
291
00:16:15,374 --> 00:16:19,353
I've spent the last seven years
de-naturalizing him, stripping
him of his citizenship.
292
00:16:19,420 --> 00:16:23,433
Next step, deportation.
So why are you giving up now?
293
00:16:23,499 --> 00:16:27,684
Lt. Van Buren, have you ever
had trouble finding credible
eyewitnesses to your cases?
294
00:16:27,746 --> 00:16:31,932
Of course we do.
Try finding one to something
that happened 60 years ago.
295
00:16:31,993 --> 00:16:34,410
Anders was a guard
in a place called Bobrek,
296
00:16:34,467 --> 00:16:37,283
a, uh, satellite camp of Auschwitz,
297
00:16:37,343 --> 00:16:40,924
which manufactured
airplane and submarine parts.
298
00:16:40,988 --> 00:16:44,442
Leah Glaser was a slave laborer there.
299
00:16:44,499 --> 00:16:46,449
Anders was the S.S. officer in charge.
300
00:16:46,505 --> 00:16:49,550
Leah Glaser identified him
from this photo...
301
00:16:49,615 --> 00:16:52,568
his Waffen S.S. file.
302
00:16:52,624 --> 00:16:54,802
After the Soviet Union opened
their archives in the early '90s,
303
00:16:54,865 --> 00:16:57,715
they turned it over to us.
You can hardly see his face.
304
00:16:57,774 --> 00:17:01,525
This was what, 60 years ago?
How could she be so sure?
305
00:17:01,586 --> 00:17:04,699
One morning he shot
six other prisoners...
306
00:17:04,762 --> 00:17:06,713
right in front of her.
307
00:17:06,769 --> 00:17:10,885
She couldn't forget him.
You looked at her Shoah testimony.
308
00:17:12,152 --> 00:17:14,604
Her description of this one guard,
309
00:17:14,661 --> 00:17:18,241
this one particular incident,
sounded like Anders,
310
00:17:18,306 --> 00:17:22,023
so we contacted her, and she
picked him out of a photo array.
311
00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:25,629
And you're convinced that this Anders
is the same Anders...
312
00:17:25,695 --> 00:17:28,911
who's alive and well
and living on East 91 st Street?
313
00:17:28,973 --> 00:17:32,724
And has been for the last 50 years.
314
00:17:32,785 --> 00:17:36,639
Yeah, we are,
and so was Leah Glaser.
315
00:17:36,697 --> 00:17:39,046
But without her testimony?
316
00:17:39,104 --> 00:17:42,149
Unless we can find more evidence,
317
00:17:42,214 --> 00:17:46,068
he's gonna die on that nice,
soft bed on East 91 st Street.
318
00:17:46,127 --> 00:17:49,810
If he killed her to stop her
from testifying, that's murder one.
319
00:17:51,009 --> 00:17:55,194
You know, Lieutenant,
there's one place we've never been able
to search for evidence against him...
320
00:17:55,255 --> 00:17:56,795
his home.
321
00:17:56,861 --> 00:18:01,581
See, that's where Criminal
has it all over Civil.
322
00:18:02,578 --> 00:18:05,063
Man's a murder suspect.
323
00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:07,503
What exactly do you think
you're gonna find?
324
00:18:07,561 --> 00:18:10,514
Memorabilia from your father?
goose-stepping days.
325
00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:13,888
That is so offensive.
He wasn't a Nazi.
326
00:18:13,948 --> 00:18:16,091
Not every German was a Nazi.
327
00:18:16,154 --> 00:18:18,105
Yeah, they were just following orders.
328
00:18:18,161 --> 00:18:21,672
I was a soldier, a veteran,
like you.
329
00:18:21,739 --> 00:18:24,555
Not like me, pal.
This is a witch hunt,
330
00:18:24,615 --> 00:18:26,724
an O.S.I. fishing expedition.
331
00:18:26,788 --> 00:18:30,243
Yeah, they're persecuting
an innocent old man
Just for the hell of it.
332
00:18:30,299 --> 00:18:33,013
Search all you want.
I'm not hiding anything.
333
00:18:33,075 --> 00:18:35,755
- Dad, I'm calling a lawyer.
- He's gonna need one.
334
00:18:35,817 --> 00:18:37,823
Lennie, look what I found.
335
00:18:42,739 --> 00:18:45,156
I don't know anything
about this locket.
336
00:18:45,213 --> 00:18:47,596
Yeah, right. It just magically
appeared in your stuff,
337
00:18:47,654 --> 00:18:50,436
next to your passport
and your social security card.
338
00:18:50,496 --> 00:18:53,849
Someone sent it to me.
See, you do know
something about it.
339
00:18:53,907 --> 00:18:56,153
Who sent it'?
I don't know.
340
00:18:56,215 --> 00:18:58,826
Now, why would somebody send you
Leah Glaser's locket?
341
00:18:58,890 --> 00:19:01,775
I don't know.
And I don't know this Glaser person.
342
00:19:01,832 --> 00:19:04,478
Leah Glaser.
She was gonna get you deported...
343
00:19:04,541 --> 00:19:07,026
back to the old country,
the fatherland.
344
00:19:07,082 --> 00:19:10,628
You mean the so-called witness?
I never met her.
345
00:19:10,693 --> 00:19:14,205
- You took that locket from her neck!
- I told you...
346
00:19:14,272 --> 00:19:17,624
- After you killed her!
- And your big mistake was
holding onto the locket.
347
00:19:17,682 --> 00:19:20,567
Mrs. Glaser's daughter's
going to identify it as her mother's.
348
00:19:20,624 --> 00:19:23,133
We're gonna find your prints all over it.
I never met her.
349
00:19:23,199 --> 00:19:26,152
And then we're gonna match
those prints with your prints
from the crime scene.
350
00:19:26,208 --> 00:19:28,420
- It's impossible. I was never there.
- You're lying.
351
00:19:28,482 --> 00:19:31,128
- I'm not!
- Quit browbeating my client.
352
00:19:31,191 --> 00:19:34,703
Stefan, not another word.
This interrogation is over.
353
00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:40,996
Stefan Anders was never a murderer...
not then, not now.
354
00:19:41,055 --> 00:19:44,773
He never met Mrs. Glaser.
He was unaware of the locket's provenance.
355
00:19:44,835 --> 00:19:47,343
It was sent to him
by an unknown party.
356
00:19:47,409 --> 00:19:51,229
How does he explain this,
which the police found in his papers?
357
00:19:51,288 --> 00:19:55,403
His 1948 visa application
to enter the United States.
358
00:19:55,468 --> 00:19:59,549
- So what?
- Compare that visa photo with this.
359
00:19:59,615 --> 00:20:03,571
- What's this?
- It's from Mr. Anders's Waffen S.S. file.
360
00:20:03,627 --> 00:20:07,846
The photograph you used
to enter this country in 1948...
361
00:20:07,907 --> 00:20:11,762
is the same as the one
in your S.S. personnel file.
362
00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:16,438
- That can't be.
- The Russians turned it over
to O.S.I. a few years ago.
363
00:20:18,842 --> 00:20:21,658
All right.
364
00:20:24,024 --> 00:20:27,844
I was a soldier on the Eastern Front.
365
00:20:27,904 --> 00:20:29,910
A young officer.
366
00:20:29,977 --> 00:20:33,558
After Stalingrad, the S.S. sent me to Bobrek.
367
00:20:33,622 --> 00:20:36,974
The war was lost. All that was left
was the final solution.
368
00:20:37,032 --> 00:20:40,544
You think I had a choice? You think
I wanted to be guarding prisoners
in some miserable camp?
369
00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:44,327
The O.S.I. says that you were
the officer in charge.
Ridiculous.
370
00:20:44,389 --> 00:20:47,001
I escorted the prisoners...
371
00:20:47,064 --> 00:20:49,549
from the barracks
to the factory every day,
372
00:20:49,605 --> 00:20:51,556
and then back again in the evening.
373
00:20:51,612 --> 00:20:54,291
That's all. I never harmed a prisoner.
374
00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:56,304
Not one. Not ever.
375
00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,435
Not according to Leah Glaser.
376
00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:00,450
It wasn't me who killed those prisoners.
377
00:21:00,506 --> 00:21:03,550
- She has me confused with another guard.
- We weren't worried.
378
00:21:03,617 --> 00:21:05,794
Her word against his.
379
00:21:05,856 --> 00:21:08,742
That was before
we found his visa photograph.
380
00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:11,479
Well, yes. Now, that evidence
is enough to get him deported.
381
00:21:11,541 --> 00:21:15,862
He lied about his background to
get into this country. He admits it.
382
00:21:15,921 --> 00:21:18,966
But if you hadn't searched his home
and found that photograph
383
00:21:19,032 --> 00:21:21,038
he would have beaten deportation.
384
00:21:21,104 --> 00:21:24,616
- What has happened is a disaster for me.
- What I'm saying is,
385
00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:26,895
he had no reason to kill her.
386
00:21:26,956 --> 00:21:30,741
The appeals process on deportation
alone would have lasted years.
387
00:21:30,802 --> 00:21:36,423
- You thought you'd outlive her.
- One of us was bound to die
before this was settled.
388
00:21:36,486 --> 00:21:39,907
- You made sure it was her.
- All right, look. Since you insist...
389
00:21:39,964 --> 00:21:41,948
on going through with this.
390
00:21:47,889 --> 00:21:50,637
He's seeking to bar us
from characterizing Mr. Anders...
391
00:21:50,698 --> 00:21:54,050
as a Nazi at trial.
392
00:21:54,109 --> 00:21:56,822
Talk about chutzpah.
393
00:22:00,094 --> 00:22:02,910
Your Honor, labeling
Stefan Anders as a Nazi..
394
00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:05,923
Will prevent him from ever
receiving a fair trial.
395
00:22:05,979 --> 00:22:09,434
The mere mention of the word
is enough to condemn him
in the eyes of any jury.
396
00:22:09,491 --> 00:22:12,307
He has a point, Mr. McCoy.
It couldn't be a more loaded word.
397
00:22:12,366 --> 00:22:16,790
Mr. Anders's motive arises out of
his personal history as an S.S. officer...
398
00:22:16,848 --> 00:22:18,798
and a member of the Nazi party.
399
00:22:18,854 --> 00:22:21,203
His past is part and parcel
of the People's case.
400
00:22:21,261 --> 00:22:23,211
Mr. Jensen?
401
00:22:23,267 --> 00:22:26,882
Then you must give my client
the opportunity to explain his past...
402
00:22:26,945 --> 00:22:29,055
in its historical context.
403
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,505
Are you going to offer evidence
that he wasn't a Nazi or an S.S. officer?
404
00:22:32,563 --> 00:22:35,551
I'm going to offer evidence that
the commonly accepted version...
405
00:22:35,606 --> 00:22:38,057
of the Second World War is wrong.
406
00:22:38,114 --> 00:22:40,794
That there was no Holocaust,
there were no death camps,
407
00:22:40,856 --> 00:22:44,368
and there certainly was no final solution.
Your Honor, please.
408
00:22:44,434 --> 00:22:47,445
Did hundreds of thousands
of Jews die? Yes.
409
00:22:47,511 --> 00:22:50,727
And not only Jews, but Gypsies,
Poles, Russians... yes.
410
00:22:50,788 --> 00:22:54,265
But those deaths weren't murders.
They weren't genocide.
411
00:22:54,332 --> 00:22:58,791
They were the inevitable result
of disease, of starvation, of war.
412
00:22:58,846 --> 00:23:02,735
Every respectable historian
in the world would disagree.
413
00:23:02,792 --> 00:23:05,300
There are distinguished academics
who think otherwise.
414
00:23:05,367 --> 00:23:07,876
Holocaust deniers, cranks,
415
00:23:07,942 --> 00:23:11,054
anti-Semites disguising their real agenda.
416
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,733
Meretricious nonsense
does not become expert testimony...
417
00:23:14,797 --> 00:23:17,875
just because it comes
wrapped in a Ph.D.!
418
00:23:17,939 --> 00:23:21,554
Why don't we let a jury decide
what's fringe nonsense and what's not?
419
00:23:21,618 --> 00:23:25,199
Why don't we let a judge decide first?
420
00:23:25,263 --> 00:23:28,615
We would happily accept
an evidentiary hearing, Your Honor.
Nothing would please us more.
421
00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:32,185
Your Honor can't entertain
this disreputable, evil theory.
422
00:23:32,251 --> 00:23:34,429
If someone insists the earth is flat...
423
00:23:34,492 --> 00:23:38,243
and the sun circles around it,
despite all evidence to the contrary,
424
00:23:38,304 --> 00:23:41,485
are we supposed to engage
the argument on their terms?
425
00:23:41,547 --> 00:23:44,763
- This is a conversation with a lunatic!
- Hold your horses, Mr. McCoy.
426
00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:46,775
I agree.
427
00:23:46,831 --> 00:23:50,012
No rational, unbiased person could
look at the historical evidence...
428
00:23:50,075 --> 00:23:52,789
and doubt the fact of the Holocaust.
429
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:55,666
It cannot be disputed,
430
00:23:55,726 --> 00:23:57,938
nor will it be in my court.
431
00:24:00,207 --> 00:24:02,157
The whole question's irrelevant.
432
00:24:02,213 --> 00:24:05,429
Anders is being deported whether
the Holocaust happened or not.
433
00:24:05,490 --> 00:24:09,914
It doesn't make any difference.
I mean, he still had motive to
murder the old lady.
434
00:24:09,971 --> 00:24:13,083
Arguing about whether
the Holocaust actually happened...
435
00:24:13,147 --> 00:24:17,195
It's not something I'd ever thought
I'd have to do in court or out.
436
00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:20,076
Now, Jensen knew it never stood
the ghost of a chance.
437
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,755
What are you saying?
It was a ploy?
438
00:24:23,814 --> 00:24:26,631
Judge Karan kicks out his motion,
gives him more grounds for appeal.
439
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:28,674
It's what it's about
with these old guys.
440
00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:32,276
I mean, stall and delay,
whatever it takes to run out the clock.
441
00:24:33,411 --> 00:24:36,490
How does a retired mechanic
retain a pricey mouthpiece like Jensen?
442
00:24:36,554 --> 00:24:39,541
I was wondering the same thing myself.
443
00:24:39,598 --> 00:24:42,083
I don't suppose he was doing it pro bono.
444
00:24:42,139 --> 00:24:45,184
Worth looking at.
445
00:24:45,249 --> 00:24:48,669
The crime lab matched Anders's D.N.A.
to a sample taken from Leah Glaser's door.
446
00:24:48,726 --> 00:24:51,805
He left his sweat
on the doorknob and peephole.
447
00:24:51,869 --> 00:24:54,013
Now you got him.
What about the fingerprints?
448
00:24:54,077 --> 00:24:56,688
A print on the locket matches
a print found on the door jamb, but...
449
00:24:56,752 --> 00:24:59,237
It isn't Anders's.
450
00:24:59,293 --> 00:25:01,539
It looks like somebody else
kicked down that door.
451
00:25:07,653 --> 00:25:09,763
Do you think this exonerates Anders?
452
00:25:09,826 --> 00:25:12,141
Not at all.
Leah Glaser's death...
453
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,552
had to be connected
to her testimony against Anders.
454
00:25:15,611 --> 00:25:19,294
We can assume there was
an accomplice, and so will a jury.
455
00:25:19,356 --> 00:25:22,537
Well, Anders now admits that he did
go see her after the preliminary hearing.
456
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:27,285
He said that she wouldn't let him in,
so he talked to her through the door
for a few minutes and then left.
457
00:25:27,349 --> 00:25:30,633
What about the son?
Came in voluntarily
and gave his fingerprints.
458
00:25:30,692 --> 00:25:33,942
They're not his.
Time to cast a wider net.
459
00:25:34,002 --> 00:25:36,317
We checked Anders's phone
and financial records.
460
00:25:36,376 --> 00:25:40,093
You know, there is actually
a Web site supporting
Anders's deportation fight.
461
00:25:40,155 --> 00:25:42,801
Maybe they're contributing
to his defense.
462
00:25:42,864 --> 00:25:45,315
Somebody's got to be
paying for Jensen.
463
00:25:45,371 --> 00:25:48,655
What about this
preliminary hearing?
Check the sign-in sheet.
464
00:25:48,716 --> 00:25:52,068
See if anyone else turned up
to cheer on their hero.
465
00:25:53,196 --> 00:25:56,845
We found one interesting hit
from that sign-in sheet...
466
00:25:56,908 --> 00:25:59,291
Kyle Mellors.
Who's Kyle Mellors?
467
00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:03,362
He's a record producer. And this is from
his company Web site.
468
00:26:03,428 --> 00:26:06,278
Heritage Records?
Sounds benign, right?
469
00:26:06,338 --> 00:26:09,656
But then you begin clicking
around that Web site.
470
00:26:09,715 --> 00:26:11,961
It's hardcore W.P.
W.P.?
471
00:26:12,022 --> 00:26:15,568
“White power."
Check out the links on that site.
472
00:26:15,634 --> 00:26:19,613
Nazi memorabilia.
An “ethnic cleansing" video game.
473
00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:21,960
A picture of Hitler
in an Uncle Sam top hat and suit,
474
00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:23,971
with his arm out, pointing.
475
00:26:24,027 --> 00:26:27,345
And here's some praise
for the 9/11 hijackers.
476
00:26:27,404 --> 00:26:31,452
“Wish we had the guts
to do what they did."
477
00:26:31,517 --> 00:26:34,630
“Holocaust Barbecue Sauce,
six million served.”
478
00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:38,776
They deny the Holocaust
and celebrate it simultaneously
479
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,124
A neat trick. Did you listen to the records?
480
00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,396
I just read the catalogue descriptions.
481
00:26:44,458 --> 00:26:47,912
It's all about “mud people"
and white supremacy...
482
00:26:47,968 --> 00:26:50,819
and killing Jews and blacks.
483
00:26:50,878 --> 00:26:55,131
So Mellors is a neo-Nazi who went
to the hearing to support Anders.
484
00:26:55,192 --> 00:26:57,940
There's a link
on the Heritage Records Web site...
485
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,957
which has been raising money
to fight Anders's deportation.
486
00:27:02,014 --> 00:27:06,973
"Stefan Anders, innocent man
targeted by Zionist opportunists"?
487
00:27:07,030 --> 00:27:09,207
You get into Heritage Records' financials,
488
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:13,124
and I'll bet you'll find they've been
shoveling money into Anders's defense fund.
489
00:27:13,182 --> 00:27:16,398
I'll get a subpoena. Have Briscoe and Green...
490
00:27:16,459 --> 00:27:18,500
drop in on Mellors for a chat.
491
00:27:18,565 --> 00:27:20,516
Briscoe and Green.
492
00:27:20,572 --> 00:27:23,822
That ought to push his buttons.
493
00:27:27,226 --> 00:27:30,339
- We're in the middle of a session.
- Ours is just starting.
494
00:27:30,403 --> 00:27:33,550
Whoa, the fuzz.
“The fuzz." I haven't
heard that since the '60s.
495
00:27:33,613 --> 00:27:35,894
Everything old is new again.
Kyle Mellors?
496
00:27:38,261 --> 00:27:40,211
How can I help you gentlemen?
497
00:27:40,267 --> 00:27:43,654
Oh, hey, man we need to ask you
a few questions about Stefan Anders.
498
00:27:43,712 --> 00:27:46,129
Don't know the man.
You raised money for him.
499
00:27:46,186 --> 00:27:48,296
Well, I give money
to the ASPCA too,
500
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:51,780
but it doesn't mean I'm on speaking
terms with every mutt in the kennel.
501
00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:54,916
- So you don't know this “mutt,” Anders?
- Nope. Never met him.
502
00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:59,461
- But you like the things he stands for?
- My customers like the things he stands for.
503
00:27:59,528 --> 00:28:02,104
Look, Detectives, I'm a record producer.
504
00:28:02,169 --> 00:28:04,655
You know, controversy sells records.
505
00:28:04,711 --> 00:28:07,995
And Stefan Anders is controversial?
You bet.
506
00:28:08,055 --> 00:28:11,476
And now he's been arrested
for murder, my Web site hits
are through the roof.
507
00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:13,950
You know, we're gonna ride this guy
all the way to the end.
508
00:28:14,007 --> 00:28:17,427
Hope he gets the death penalty.
We can retire.
"No Surrender”?
509
00:28:17,485 --> 00:28:20,529
That's their debut album.
You produce this garbage?
510
00:28:20,594 --> 00:28:24,345
- Well, that one's a little extreme.
- How about this one?
511
00:28:24,406 --> 00:28:27,725
That's our biggest seller,
“New Glory.“
512
00:28:27,784 --> 00:28:30,566
Will you sign it for us?
513
00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:37,381
- Who should I make it out to?
- “New York's finest."
514
00:28:39,654 --> 00:28:42,470
Heritage Records is one of
the biggest neo-Nazi record labels.
515
00:28:42,531 --> 00:28:46,920
I read your books.
Kyle Mellors doesn't exactly
seem to fit the profile.
516
00:28:46,977 --> 00:28:49,589
You know, I thought
neo-Nazis shaved their heads.
517
00:28:49,653 --> 00:28:52,606
Work boots, tattoos.
That's the old profile.
518
00:28:52,662 --> 00:28:54,613
They're learning
how to mainstream.
519
00:28:54,669 --> 00:28:57,816
They finally realized the more
they blend in, the more
effective they'll be.
520
00:28:57,879 --> 00:29:00,194
C.D.'s, Web sites, video games...
521
00:29:00,253 --> 00:29:03,707
The movement's discovered
a variety of ways
to disseminate the message.
522
00:29:03,764 --> 00:29:06,752
This generates millions of dollars
in revenue annually.
523
00:29:06,807 --> 00:29:10,558
Where does the money go?
To fund various
causes and activities.
524
00:29:10,619 --> 00:29:13,664
Their ultimate goal is the creation
of a white Christian nation...
525
00:29:13,729 --> 00:29:16,010
cleansed of minorities.
526
00:29:16,069 --> 00:29:18,611
That's insane.
Yeah, they want to destroy
our government,
527
00:29:18,678 --> 00:29:21,597
our Constitution,
the very system of justice
that protects them.
528
00:29:21,654 --> 00:29:23,969
They're terrorists.
Absolutely.
529
00:29:24,028 --> 00:29:27,380
Oklahoma City has been eclipsed
by the events of 9/11.
530
00:29:27,438 --> 00:29:29,981
But these American terrorists
are still out there,
531
00:29:30,047 --> 00:29:32,088
and we can't necessarily
tell who they are.
532
00:29:32,154 --> 00:29:34,765
Mellors seems to have had
a normal suburban childhood.
533
00:29:34,828 --> 00:29:37,839
His dad's a doctor.
Mom works in an office.
534
00:29:37,905 --> 00:29:42,192
He's been to Germany every summer
the last four years.
535
00:29:42,252 --> 00:29:45,798
Back to the source.
A right-wing nationalist music festival.
536
00:29:45,863 --> 00:29:48,611
He promotes his bands,
smuggles his C.D.'s into Germany.
537
00:29:48,672 --> 00:29:51,420
He sells them on the black market.
They're illegal there.
538
00:29:51,481 --> 00:29:54,731
Gets to rub elbows with neo-Nazis
from all over the world.
539
00:29:54,791 --> 00:29:57,277
That must give him a charge.
He may also feel diminished...
540
00:29:57,333 --> 00:29:59,841
by the hardcore kids in comparison.
541
00:29:59,907 --> 00:30:03,955
A middle-class boy like Mellors
probably has no experience
with actual violence.
542
00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:06,529
So up to this point,
it's all been vicarious.
543
00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:08,808
So, maybe he wants
a taste of the real thing.
544
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:10,979
Excuse me.
545
00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:16,426
Southerlyn.
546
00:30:20,138 --> 00:30:22,088
Pick him up.
547
00:30:25,422 --> 00:30:27,873
Back again?
Yeah. Remember the C.D.
you laid on us?
548
00:30:27,929 --> 00:30:29,879
Oh, you like it?
Oh, we loved it.
549
00:30:29,935 --> 00:30:33,014
Especially the part where your
fingerprints match some prints
we found at the crime scene.
550
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:35,827
You're under arrest for
the murder of Leah Glaser.
Call Graham Wilson.
551
00:30:35,888 --> 00:30:38,305
You have the right to remain silent,
which I highly recommend.
552
00:30:38,362 --> 00:30:40,574
You have the right to an attorney
553
00:30:40,636 --> 00:30:43,989
You're going down Mr. Mellors,
and your hero's going with you.
554
00:30:44,047 --> 00:30:46,088
What if it was an accident?
555
00:30:46,153 --> 00:30:49,403
If someone went there
to talk to her, not to kill her,
556
00:30:49,464 --> 00:30:52,976
and events transpired in a
certain tragic, unforeseen way,
557
00:30:53,042 --> 00:30:54,992
wouldn't that be manslaughter?
558
00:30:55,048 --> 00:30:57,899
We know that Leah Glaser
didn't die accidentally.
559
00:30:57,958 --> 00:31:01,469
After her killer knocked her down
and cracked her skull,
he smothered her.
560
00:31:01,535 --> 00:31:05,891
I won't entertain anything less
than murder one for Mr. Anders.
561
00:31:05,949 --> 00:31:08,697
Your client, on the other hand,
can still plead to murder two
as a hate crime.
562
00:31:08,758 --> 00:31:11,711
As a hate crime?
What the hell does that mean?
563
00:31:11,767 --> 00:31:14,219
Adds five years to your sentence.
564
00:31:14,276 --> 00:31:16,761
Twenty to life, Mr. Mellors.
That's as good as it gets.
565
00:31:16,817 --> 00:31:21,573
Tell us what transpired between you
and Mr. Anders, and you may not spend
the rest of your life in prison.
566
00:31:21,632 --> 00:31:25,714
I keep telling you... Mr. Anders
had nothing to do with this.
567
00:31:27,818 --> 00:31:30,064
How would you know
if you weren't there?
568
00:31:31,798 --> 00:31:36,450
Just as I thought. We're trying you
both for murder in the first degree.
569
00:31:36,513 --> 00:31:38,463
Together.
570
00:31:41,695 --> 00:31:45,412
Mellors can bob and weave
as much as he wants.
I have no doubt of his guilt.
571
00:31:45,474 --> 00:31:47,960
You're still on the fence
about Anders?
572
00:31:48,016 --> 00:31:52,167
I want to be sure I'm trying Anders
for the crimes he committed
in this century,
573
00:31:52,229 --> 00:31:54,475
not the ones he committed in the past.
574
00:31:54,536 --> 00:31:58,687
Some of the strongest cases
we've tried have been based
on circumstantial evidence.
575
00:31:58,749 --> 00:32:00,995
Despite his protestations
to the contrary,
576
00:32:01,057 --> 00:32:04,067
Anders stood to substantially
gain from her death.
577
00:32:04,132 --> 00:32:06,117
His D.N.A. was
at the crime scene,
578
00:32:06,173 --> 00:32:11,030
and he had the locket that she
wore around her neck every day
of her life in his possession.
579
00:32:11,088 --> 00:32:16,243
I mean, except for a videotape
of the crime, I can't think of
what more you could want.
580
00:32:16,305 --> 00:32:20,456
Mellors keeps claiming that
Anders wasn't involved.
581
00:32:20,518 --> 00:32:23,505
Well, let him take the stand
and tell that to the jury.
582
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,511
I don't think he'll be
taking the stand.
583
00:32:25,567 --> 00:32:28,349
We'd bury him with all this
neo-Nazi stuff.
584
00:32:28,409 --> 00:32:31,123
No, I don't suppose he would.
585
00:32:31,185 --> 00:32:34,001
Which means that Anders
just about has to.
586
00:32:39,678 --> 00:32:42,163
We analyzed a set
of bilateral thumbprints...
587
00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:45,070
and two full sets of fingerprints
found on the frame...
588
00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:47,204
surrounding Mrs. Glaser's door.
589
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:51,989
- Did you identify these fingerprints?
- Yes. They belong
to the defendant, Kyle Mellors.
590
00:32:52,051 --> 00:32:55,802
Did you find any other fingerprints
belonging to Mr. Mellors?
591
00:32:55,863 --> 00:32:59,820
Yes. On Mrs. Glaser's locket,
we found a thumb and forefinger.
592
00:32:59,875 --> 00:33:02,383
What about the co-defendant,
Stefan Anders?
593
00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:05,871
His prints were also found
on Mrs. Glaser's locket
What about at the crime scene?
594
00:33:05,928 --> 00:33:09,975
No prints. However, the Latent unit
did find two sweat smudges...
595
00:33:10,041 --> 00:33:12,458
one on the doorknob
and one on the door...
596
00:33:12,515 --> 00:33:15,195
about five feet, eight inches
from the floor.
597
00:33:15,257 --> 00:33:18,872
- Were you able to make a positive I.D.?
- They belong to the defendant,
Stefan Anders.
598
00:33:18,936 --> 00:33:23,416
And your conclusion about
how these smudge came to be
on Mrs. Glaser's door?
599
00:33:23,483 --> 00:33:25,558
The height of the defendant
indicates...
600
00:33:25,623 --> 00:33:28,839
he gripped the doorknob
and leaned his forehead
against the door.
601
00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:34,458
No questions of this witness,
Your Honor.
602
00:33:34,517 --> 00:33:36,969
Did you find traces of my client...
603
00:33:37,026 --> 00:33:39,945
anywhere inside
Mrs. Glaser's apartment?
604
00:33:40,001 --> 00:33:41,678
None.
605
00:33:41,741 --> 00:33:44,694
So, your analysis puts my client
at her door,
606
00:33:44,751 --> 00:33:46,701
but not inside her apartment?
607
00:33:46,757 --> 00:33:49,174
Yes.
608
00:33:49,231 --> 00:33:51,273
Now, scientifically,
you can't determine...
609
00:33:51,338 --> 00:33:56,093
whether the D.N.A. sample
and the various prints were left
at the same time, can you?
610
00:33:56,153 --> 00:33:57,864
No.
611
00:33:57,925 --> 00:34:01,345
So, for all you know,
my client, Stefan Anders,
612
00:34:01,402 --> 00:34:04,583
was there one day
outside the apartment door...
613
00:34:04,646 --> 00:34:08,295
and Mr. Mellors
on another day entirely...
614
00:34:08,357 --> 00:34:11,436
outside and inside the apartment?
615
00:34:11,501 --> 00:34:13,543
That's certainly possible, yes.
616
00:34:15,714 --> 00:34:17,721
No further questions.
617
00:34:23,372 --> 00:34:27,852
As the co-owner of Heritage Records with
Mr. Mellors, what is your mission statement?
618
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,565
To make money.
No ideology?
619
00:34:30,628 --> 00:34:33,445
Capitalism. Capitalism is our ideology.
620
00:34:33,504 --> 00:34:36,218
Are you a Nazi, neo-Nazi, fascist?
621
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,860
I've been called all those things,
but what I am is an
independent entrepreneur.
622
00:34:39,925 --> 00:34:41,875
Is Mr. Mellors a neo-Nazi?
623
00:34:41,931 --> 00:34:43,915
Objection!
If Mr. Mellors...
624
00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:46,547
wants to speak to his political beliefs,
625
00:34:46,612 --> 00:34:48,562
let him take the stand.
626
00:34:48,618 --> 00:34:52,164
- Sustained.
- Some of your bands espouse
rather radical views.
627
00:34:52,229 --> 00:34:54,714
That's their right
under the First Amendment.
628
00:34:54,771 --> 00:34:58,123
Do you share their views?
I believe in what sells.
629
00:34:58,182 --> 00:35:00,132
Look, it's just music.
630
00:35:00,188 --> 00:35:02,195
It's loud, it's extreme,
it's rebellious,
631
00:35:02,262 --> 00:35:05,478
it's in-your-face,
and it drives their parents crazy.
632
00:35:05,539 --> 00:35:09,495
That's why the kids like it.
That's what it's all about.
633
00:35:09,551 --> 00:35:11,558
It's just music?
634
00:35:13,932 --> 00:35:16,213
“Kill all the niggers,
635
00:35:16,272 --> 00:35:18,587
“kill all the Jews,
636
00:35:18,646 --> 00:35:21,827
fire up the ovens,
there's no time to lose."
637
00:35:21,890 --> 00:35:24,901
- Do you recognize these lyrics?
- I can't say that I do.
638
00:35:24,967 --> 00:35:28,980
They're from an album you
produced with Kyle Mellors.
639
00:35:29,045 --> 00:35:31,395
The group is called American Reichstag.
640
00:35:31,454 --> 00:35:35,535
Do you think every black record exec
who produces a gangster rap track...
641
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,949
thinks we should kill cops or, uh,
642
00:35:38,008 --> 00:35:40,493
beat those ho's and bitches?
643
00:35:40,548 --> 00:35:44,403
- It's about selling records.
- Critics call it “hate rock."
644
00:35:44,461 --> 00:35:47,003
Your own Web site calls it “hate core."
645
00:35:47,069 --> 00:35:50,924
People who buy it also call it "heritage music. ”
646
00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:55,201
It's music. Don't we still have
freedom of speech in this country?
647
00:35:55,262 --> 00:35:57,246
The First Amendment isn't absolute.
648
00:35:57,301 --> 00:36:01,760
If your speech incites
and results in violence,
it's not protected.
649
00:36:01,816 --> 00:36:04,827
Isn't that what you're doing?
Inciting people to kill?
No.
650
00:36:04,892 --> 00:36:07,241
We're inciting people
to buy records.
651
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,808
“Kill all the blacks.
652
00:36:09,875 --> 00:36:13,125
Kill all the Jews."
653
00:36:13,185 --> 00:36:15,967
If one of your songs results
in someone's death,
654
00:36:16,027 --> 00:36:19,014
aren't you culpable?
I don't see it that way.
655
00:36:20,307 --> 00:36:22,656
Right. You're just putting money...
656
00:36:22,715 --> 00:36:24,825
in the pockets of people
who advocate...
657
00:36:24,889 --> 00:36:27,501
the extermination
of other human beings.
658
00:36:30,473 --> 00:36:32,788
I went to her apartment.
659
00:36:32,847 --> 00:36:35,424
Not the day of the murder...
another day.
660
00:36:37,562 --> 00:36:40,915
I thought if she looked in my eyes,
661
00:36:40,973 --> 00:36:44,450
she would see I am not the man
she thought I was.
662
00:36:44,517 --> 00:36:47,562
Did you see her?
She wouldn't open the door,
so I spoke to her...
663
00:36:47,627 --> 00:36:50,580
for a few minutes from the hall,
664
00:36:50,636 --> 00:36:53,316
and she asked me to leave and I left.
665
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:56,833
And Leah Glaser was still alive.
Of course.
666
00:36:56,889 --> 00:36:59,603
You were a guard at Bobrek.
667
00:37:01,236 --> 00:37:05,455
I was a soldier. I went
where I was ordered to go.
668
00:37:05,517 --> 00:37:07,626
Did you ever kill anyone?
669
00:37:07,690 --> 00:37:11,145
In combat? Probably.
670
00:37:11,202 --> 00:37:13,778
But at the camp? No.
Definitely no.
671
00:37:13,843 --> 00:37:17,195
Did you know the deceased,
Leah Glaser?
No.
672
00:37:17,254 --> 00:37:19,671
Did you remember her at all
from the camp?
673
00:37:19,728 --> 00:37:22,009
It was 60 years ago.
674
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:25,057
There were hundreds of prisoners.
I don't remember them.
675
00:37:25,112 --> 00:37:27,027
She remembered you.
676
00:37:27,085 --> 00:37:29,229
She saw me every day...
677
00:37:29,292 --> 00:37:31,242
every morning, every evening.
678
00:37:31,298 --> 00:37:33,681
She saw my photograph;
she recognized me.
679
00:37:33,739 --> 00:37:37,594
She remembered me from the camp,
okay, but she was confused.
680
00:37:37,651 --> 00:37:41,870
She has me confused with
someone else, another guard
681
00:37:41,931 --> 00:37:46,390
I didn't kill anyone in the camp,
and I didn't kill her.
I had no reason to.
682
00:37:46,446 --> 00:37:50,129
Her death is the worst thing
that could have happened to me.
683
00:37:50,191 --> 00:37:54,045
Whatever happens here,
now I will be deported.
684
00:37:54,103 --> 00:37:57,250
Because someone killed her.
685
00:37:57,313 --> 00:37:59,696
Someone.
686
00:37:59,755 --> 00:38:02,172
Not me.
687
00:38:02,229 --> 00:38:04,977
Your witness.
688
00:38:06,309 --> 00:38:09,559
You weren't the guard
Leah Glaser remembered
from the camp?
689
00:38:09,619 --> 00:38:13,404
- The one she saw kill six prisoners?
- No.
690
00:38:15,671 --> 00:38:19,525
I have no further questions
for this witness at this time,
Your Honor.
691
00:38:19,583 --> 00:38:22,902
I reserve the right to continue
my cross-examination.
692
00:38:22,961 --> 00:38:26,381
- Mr. Jensen?
- In that case, Your Honor,
693
00:38:26,439 --> 00:38:28,445
the defendant, Anders, rests.
694
00:38:28,512 --> 00:38:31,898
Mr. Wilson?
Yes, Your Honor.
The defendant, Mellors, rests.
695
00:38:33,093 --> 00:38:35,476
The witness may step down.
696
00:38:37,172 --> 00:38:41,597
Your Honor, I would like
to call a rebuttal witness.
Leah Glaser.
697
00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:44,834
Your Honor, I would like
to renew my application...
698
00:38:44,897 --> 00:38:48,580
to exclude this videotaped
testimony as highly prejudicial.
699
00:38:48,642 --> 00:38:50,626
Her Shoah testimony
directly refutes...
700
00:38:50,681 --> 00:38:53,498
what Mr. Anders just
testified to under oath.
701
00:38:53,558 --> 00:38:55,941
Your Honor, it's hearsay,
it's prejudicial.
702
00:38:55,999 --> 00:38:58,143
There's obviously no opportunity
to cross-examine.
703
00:38:58,206 --> 00:39:01,855
Mr. Jensen had ample opportunity
to cross-examine Leah Glaser...
704
00:39:01,918 --> 00:39:04,301
when he deposed her
on this very subject.
705
00:39:04,358 --> 00:39:08,474
Counsel can read the relevant portions
of that proceeding into the record.
706
00:39:08,538 --> 00:39:11,218
Your Honor, this is not fair!
707
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,031
The emotional impact of seeing
the deceased's videotaped testimony...
708
00:39:15,092 --> 00:39:18,444
will far outweigh
a dry reading of a deposition.
709
00:39:18,502 --> 00:39:20,988
I'll review your memos once more.
710
00:39:21,044 --> 00:39:24,191
Court will stand at recess until 2:00.
711
00:39:30,908 --> 00:39:34,956
The guards would walk us
to and from the factory each day
712
00:39:36,593 --> 00:39:38,544
Some of them,
713
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,610
if we did not walk quickly,
714
00:39:41,675 --> 00:39:43,626
they would beat us.
715
00:39:43,683 --> 00:39:47,662
The one in charge,
he was different.
716
00:39:47,729 --> 00:39:50,545
“Bitte, bitte," he would always say, "Please. ”
717
00:39:51,641 --> 00:39:53,990
He was polite.
718
00:39:54,048 --> 00:39:56,192
Always polite.
719
00:39:56,255 --> 00:39:59,140
Beautiful manners, elegant,
720
00:39:59,198 --> 00:40:02,209
but cold... cold as ice.
721
00:40:03,411 --> 00:40:05,487
Not human.
722
00:40:05,551 --> 00:40:09,005
His name was Anders, I think.
723
00:40:09,063 --> 00:40:13,920
One day, one of the prisoners fell
and couldn't get up.
724
00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:18,026
He came over.
"Bitte, bitte, "I heard him say.
725
00:40:18,091 --> 00:40:20,907
“Get up, please."
726
00:40:23,542 --> 00:40:27,019
She couldn't get up,
727
00:40:29,393 --> 00:40:32,244
so he shot her...
728
00:40:32,303 --> 00:40:34,287
in the face.
729
00:40:36,148 --> 00:40:38,828
And then he shot five other women,
730
00:40:38,890 --> 00:40:41,466
the ones who cried.
731
00:40:41,532 --> 00:40:45,386
One, two, three, four, five.
732
00:40:47,618 --> 00:40:50,035
Like it was nothing.
733
00:40:53,302 --> 00:40:57,156
And then he looked at the rest
of us and said, "Bitte, bitte,"
734
00:40:57,214 --> 00:41:00,533
and we went to work
like nothing happened.
735
00:41:02,598 --> 00:41:05,848
The fifth one he shot, number five,
736
00:41:08,617 --> 00:41:11,034
was my sister Rebekkah,
737
00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:18,292
my little sister.
738
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:25,414
Why?
739
00:41:37,106 --> 00:41:39,490
Have you reached a verdict?
We have.
740
00:41:39,548 --> 00:41:41,794
As to the defendant Kyle Mellors,
741
00:41:41,855 --> 00:41:45,332
on the first count of the indictment,
murder in the first degree,
how do you find?
742
00:41:45,399 --> 00:41:49,584
We find the defendant,
Kyle Mellors, guilty
743
00:41:49,647 --> 00:41:51,722
As to the defendant
Stefan Anders,
744
00:41:51,786 --> 00:41:54,865
on the first count of the indictment,
murder in the first degree,
745
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:59,616
how do you find?
We find the defendant,
Stefan Anders, guilty.
746
00:42:20,042 --> 00:42:22,357
Think Anders is telling the truth,
747
00:42:22,416 --> 00:42:25,803
that he didn't have anything to do
with Leah Glaser's murder?
748
00:42:25,861 --> 00:42:28,506
They knew a guilty man
when they saw one.