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Time out. Stop, right there.
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Damn right, I will.
-♪ bad boys, bad boys ♪
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-Det. Jeremy lessard: So right now we're going to
A just-occurred robbery.
It's happened over at the bus station by the edison mall.
Right now we're getting information
That a white male last seen wearing a brown shirt
Stole someone's backpack and punched him.
Right now, we're pulling up to a felony traffic stop.
There's multiple occupants inside this van
That was potentially involved in the robbery.
-(suspect speaking indistinctly)
-...Other than my (indistinct) knife.
I bought it from zen garden.
That's it.
-Det. Lessard: What do you need?
-Alright, rear passenger on the left side,
With your outside hand
I want you to open that sliding door.
-Det. Lessard: Right now just one at a time pulling out each occupant.
-In the back there. -(indistinct chatter)
-Officer: Step back, step back, step back, step back.
Put your hands behind your back.
-Det. Lessard: So right now we just basically cleared the car.
Made sure there's no one else inside.
And then from here on out,
We're just going to do our investigation.
The guy right here with the adidas shirt, anthony,
He walked up to somebody, punched him in the face,
Took his bag, and then he threw it back at the victim
And they fled the area.
So just explain to me real quick what happened over there.
Were you in the van at the mall? Right?
-I was inside the mall.
-Yeah. And then you got into the van after?
-Yeah. -Det. Lessard: Who'd you get in the van with?
-My mom and, and my dad.
-Det. Lessard: Is your mom the driver?
-She's the... She's the, uh... She's learning how to drive.
-Det. Lessard: No, yeah, that's fine, but her name is, is sheila.
-Yeah. -That's your mom?
Okay. Alright.
So, do you know what happened between...
With, with anthony?
Do you know where he went?
-He had went over to the bus station
To talk to, uh, to logan.
-Det. Lessard: Okay.
-And the only thing that I know is that
When he came back to the car,
He said he had kicked him in the head,
And that's the only thing that I know.
-Did he take anything?
-The only thing he grabbed was his backpack,
And that's when logan started following,
Chasing after him like they were gonna fight.
-Det. Lessard: Okay. Whose, whose backpack?
-Uh, logan's.
-Det. Lessard: Okay. Alright.
-Alright, so just start from the beginning of what happened.
-Um, I had just come out of fye, the mall, was closing.
The security guard told us that it was time to leave.
We went to the car, and I was going by,
I saw my ex-boyfriend, logan, at the bus station,
And my friend anthony said that he wanted to talk to him,
To tell him to leave me alone
Because I've been getting threatened by him,
By his friends.
They've been threatening to hurt my...
Like, beat up my vehicle, smash my windows,
Threatening to kidnap me,
Threatening to do bodily harm to me.
He used to abuse me, so I was very scared.
So I agreed to let anthony go talk to him.
It looked like anthony may have grabbed the backpack and threw it up in the air.
There was a car in the way,
So I wasn't able to see if he, like, hit him or anything,
But I noticed that he walked.
Logan walked back towards the bus station,
And then anthony came walking towards the car
And said, "let's go."
So I thought everything was fine.
I thought maybe anthony didn't hit him or anything else,
So I don't know really what went on.
Anthony didn't really tell me much of anything. -Okay.
-Okay, the driver, sheila, and then her son,
Who she just claimed is not her biological son, actually.
They're going to be released.
Do you know this gentleman over here in the red shirt
Saying that he's like the online father?
-Oh, yeah. -Det. Lessard: He, like, protects...
There's an "app" called reality. We're all like an online family.
Like, we have, like, uh,
People that we claim are "our kids" that we watch over.
Um, like, they have, like, apps like discord and reality.
Like, you can claim to be "part of a family."
-I've never heard of that.
-Yeah. -Det. Lessard: Alright.
So everybody in the van was saying that there was
An issue that happened between you and logan,
And that logan was running towards you
Or whatever the case is.
Can you explain to me what happened
Over there at the bus station?
-I just defended myself.
He was running at me and I kicked him.
I was just defending myself.
-Okay, but why did you go over there in the first place?
-I didn't go over there. He walked over to me.
-Det. Lessard: Where, where did he walk over to you?
-I was at the bus stop. I was waiting for the bus.
-Det. Lessard: Well, they're all saying that you were in the van
And that sheila, the driver, was driving by the bus stop
And you saw logan and you said,
"can you let me out so I can go and talk to him
About how he's been treating you?"
-No. -That's not what happened?
So why would they lie about that?
-I don't know. I really don't know.
-Det. Lessard: So we have a witness that positively id'd you
As the gentleman that walked up to logan
And kicked him and then took his bag from him.
You have everybody else in the van
Who said that you were in the van,
Sheila was driving to leave the mall,
You saw logan and you said to sheila,
Can you let me out so I can go and confront him?
Because apparently logan has been threatening her
On social media, right?
And then after the incident took place, right,
You walked back to the van and there's multiple people
That were in that van that said to...
That you told sheila to go, go, go
Because you just kicked logan in the face.
-I didn't kick him in the face, though.
-Det. Lessard: Okay, but so then why, but why would they say that?
-Because I... I did take his bag, yes.
-Det. Lessard: Okay, so right there you're already...
You're already not being truthful, right?
-I'm telling you, that's what happened.
Yes, I ran and took his bag.
I hit him in the face with it and gave it back to him.
-Alright.
Where's the victim at right now?
-Officer nicholas mallone: So, from my understanding,
Victim got transported to lee memorial hospital.
I guess injuries to his face, her face,
Whoever it may be was significant enough.
So they got transported over there.
-Alright, anthony, my partner who got into the car said
That you had something to say.
-Anthony: Hmm. Mm-hmm.
-Det. Lessard: What, what did you tell him?
-I kicked him in the face.
-Det. Lessard: So you, so you did kick logan in the face?
-Yes, sir. (mumbles) -okay.
Well, I appreciate you being honest this time, alright, man?
It goes, it goes a long way, alright?
So right now, just so you're aware,
You're going to be arrested for, for robbery, alright?
-I didn't steal nothing though, from him. He has all the stuff.
You kicked him and you took his bag,
And then you hit him with his own bag.
-But he has it.
-I understand, but at one point,
You took that property away from him by force, okay? -I understand.
-Det. Lessard: Alright, man.
-Deputy michael terlizzi: So we're about to get to a domestic disturbance
Over here between, uh, looks like two brothers
And their mother arguing over bills,
And looks like one of them took a tv out.
So they called us and got to see
If we can sort their problems out.
-Man: "you have no business moving that tv."
-Yep. -And I said, "I knew it was coming."
I said, "you have no business
Living here and not paying bills."
And he came... I knew I could... I could... (bleep).
I knew. He come up and he grabbed me by my neck
And he pushed me and he started swinging.
I said, "I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight."
-Deputy drew wilkinson: He grabbed you by your neck? -Yeah.
-Deputy wilkinson: And he started swinging on you? -Yeah.
-Deputy wilkinson: How did he grab you by your neck?
-(bleep) grabbed me. I'm sorry.
He... He stopped and grabbed me, and I was like,
"you know, I'm 62 years old. I don't want to fight."
-Who is he to you again? -Huh?
-Who is he to you?
-My half-brother. My mom got remarried--
-So you guys live here together, though?
-Pardon me? -You guys live here together?
-I just moved in. -You just moved in?
So you guys live together?
-Yeah, I've been on my own for, for a long time.
-I got you. -Man: My mom, him, and his girlfriend.
My sister was taken away today. -Deputy wilkinson: Yep.
-Man: Okay, who abuses my 81-year-old mother.
Okay? Took her away today. -Deputy wilkinson: Mm-hmm.
Um... I've just tried to get her...
I'm, I'm buying a house to get...
Because I love my mom.
I'm the good kid, okay?
I have two, I have two businesses, a car, a license.
Alright? -Deputy wilkinson: Do you want to press charges on him?
-Man: Yes. -Deputy wilkinson: Okay.
When you grab your neck, could you breathe or no?
-No! -You felt like you couldn't breathe?
-No. And I was scared to death because I didn't want to fight.
-Where's dustin at?
-Man: He's back there. Unless he ran.
Oh, he's out?
And is there, like, a seating area
Or something back there?
-Yeah, if he's not back there, then he ran.
-Okay. -Took off scared.
-Alright. I'll go talk to him.
Dustin.
Dustin?
-Deputy terlizzi: Not in there? -I'll go inside.
-Deputy terlizzi: It's just mom inside?
-Oh, he said his mom's inside.
I think dustin's girlfriend. -Deputy terlizzi: Okay.
-Deputy wilkinson: We gotta talk to you. -Dustin: Yeah.
Deputy wilkinson: Let's talk.
I wanna try to get your side of the story.
-Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You wanna come out here?
-Come on.
-Deputy wilkinson: It's up to you.
-Okay. -Terlizzi: You wanna go outside?
-Huh? -Woman: Yeah.
-Woman: We don't wanna bother his mom.
-Deputy wilkinson: Alright. -Woman: She's all upset.
-Really upset. -Deputy wilkinson: Okay.
-Dustin: He tried to come in with a damn saw.
-Deputy wilkinson: He, like, touch you with a saw?
-Dustin: He came at me with a saw.
-Deputy terlizzi: Was it like a big saw or like...
-No, it was like a, it was like a wood saw.
A little hand wood saw. -Okay.
-Like a narrow one. Almost like a drywall.
Like drywall saw.
Like, he came out and came around the door here
Because he brought out the tv out here.
He wanted to put tvs, which is no problem.
But then he goes in there and starts yelling at my girlfriend,
Like, for no reason,
And she wouldn't even argue with me.
And I came in here to stop it,
To see what the (bleep) was going on.
He turned around and start swinging at me.
-Deputy wilkinson: Started swinging on you? -Yeah.
-Deputy wilkinson: Okay. Did you press up on him
Or anything like that?
-Well, after he-- -he just started wailing on you outta nowhere?
-Dustin: After he hit me a couple of times, I defended myself.
-Deputy wilkinson: Okay. Did he swing it at you or what? How did he...
Yeah, he was swinging at me. He came right-handed...
-Deputy terlizzi: He was swinging like swinging or he was trying to saw you?
-No, yeah, like... (bleep).
Like trying to chop me.
Like, chop, chop me with it. -Deputy terlizzi: Gotcha.
Okay, so what did you see, jody?
-I didn't see any. I was sitting in here most of the time.
-I seen steve come in, I seen pushing,
Pushing and shoving and arguing, that's all I see.
-Deputy terlizzi: Okay, is that from the saw?
-That's from the saw.
-Jody: Yeah, probably. -Deputy terlizzi: Okay.
-Dustin: Yeah. That and my ear.
-Here, just face this way for me. -Yes, sir.
-Can you put your hands up there? -Man: Yeah.
-Alright, just do me a favor. Put your hands behind your back.
-Steve: Am I being arrested?
-Wilkinson: As of right now, you're gonna be detained.
-Deputy terlizzi: So quick question, man. So what caused this?
Because, look, you guys have the fire for it going
And... And everything. -I don't...
Like, what caused it was the whole thing over a tv.
Like, he wanted to bring a little tv out there and like,
He took the other tv and just kind of ripped cords out of it
And just tossed it to the side.
-Yeah. Did he try to take the tv out of your shed or...
-Dustin: No, no, no, no, we already had it here.
We took the one... He took the one out of his sister's.
-Okay. -She was like
Coming around the corner and it's when he turned around
And started (bleep) pushing me and trying to hit me.
-Deputy wilkinson: Hey, boss man, can you come look at this saw blade
And make sure this is the right one?
Right up front. -Dustin: Where's it at?
-At the front of the house.
You described earlier about a brown handle and a long metal blade,
And it was positively identified.
You left out a pretty big part.
When I was first talking to you, you didn't tell me anything
About him having a pipe or anything like that
And that's why you grabbed the saw blade.
You said you guys were arguing over a tv.
-Steve: Yeah, he grabbed me by the neck.
Yep, he grabbed me by the neck.
Okay? Alright. -Deputy wilkinson: Mm-hmm.
-Steve: I'm sorry. I'm emotional.
-I totally understand that.
But, I mean, that's kind of a big part to leave out.
You know, that you swung at him
With a saw blade, wouldn't you agree?
-Well, because I really don't want...
You know what? I've always been a strong believer, you know,
Even though how much you may not like your family members.
Uh, you know, I don't want to send him to jail.
-Okay. -Man: I moved here because I shut everything down.
Because my mom's worried because they're all doing drugs.
My sister was taken away. 911 today.
I'm the guy trying to do the right thing here.
-Deputy terlizzi: Okay.
-Steve: He's the one that needs
To be going to jail.
-Deputy terlizzi: So right now, we're taking that one more time
Before we take him to the jail
And, um, have his little conversation with mom.
Hugs, kisses, whatever he needs to do.
You need to hear my side.
-Mom: I know. It wasn't your fault.
-Thank you.
Are you telling me the truth
What you're saying right now?
Is she telling the truth?
Can I ask you that? -I'd go in to court with him.
Tell 'em don't...
-She could be saying... She could have been saying,
"well, take steve to jail" back there.
And now she's being nice.
Like, did she say it?
-No, I didn't. -Well, I'm hoping you didn't.
-Why would I say that? -Steve: I don't know.
-I was out there watching what was going on.
-Steve: I don't know, because you, you've, uh...
You got against me before back in the past.
-Yeah. -But anyways, I love you.
-I love you too. -I don't know what's going to happen, mom.
I'm going to jail. -Mom: Alright, I'll be...
I'll get you out tomorrow. -Steve: This is really sad.
-Let's go, buddy. -Steve: Mm-hmm.
My car. Mom, will you watch my car?
Make sure they don't do anything to it?
-They won't touch it.
-Alright, you are going to be charged with
Aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
-Steve: It's just a felony.
-And aggravated battery as well, okay?
-Man: What about him, though?
-Deputy terlizzi: You have your day in court.
-Man: I understand. -Deputy terlizzi: Alright?
-Man: Thank you.
-Sgt. Torrie robinson: I've been with the jacksonville sheriff's office
For going on 16 years.
I started my time here in corrections.
I patrol the west side of jacksonville, patrol downtown.
A few things I like to do in my free time,
I'm actually in love with aviation.
I love to fly airplanes on the side,
So I plan to make that a career,
Post the sheriff's office.
Alright, so right now we're responding
To a robbery to an individual.
So allegedly, there's a couple of people over here
That heard some, some commotion
And it may be associated with a robbery.
So we're just going to go over
And check it out, see what we have.
-Officer maurice brown: We got a call here?
-I just got off of work a couple hours ago.
-Officer brown: Okay. -And I'm sitting down,
I'm eating, just chilling,
And he comes in and he asks me,
"so, do you have a plan?" I told him, "yes."
Mind you, a couple of months before this,
I walked outside to him, literally strangling my dog.
-Yeah. -Woman: By the time I grabbed my phone out,
Then he's threatening me, calling me a crazy bitch, da, da, da, da.
I told him, "if you don't want me out, okay, cool.
As my landlord, you need to give me a 30-day notice."
I just paid you rent and you're trying to kick me out.
-Officer brown: And who is, who is he to you?
He's my landlord and he's also my roommate. He's my coworker.
-Officer brown: Okay. -I work with him.
He comes in, he's like, "you got a plan?"
When he said that, and I told him, have you...
"do you have my 30-day notice?"
He laughed at me and then started literally flipping.
Next thing you know,
My door slams open because I'm cracking it.
Because my dog's going to run out
And he has a problem with my dog.
I don't want my dog running out. -Officer brown: And this is today?
-This is just literally about an hour ago. -Officer brown: Okay.
He snatches my phone out of my hand,
Starts running outside with it, talking about some bitch,
"I'm finna show you something."
Comes in, comes back in my room
Because I told him this was illegal
And I could call the cops.
He comes back in my room-- -officer brown: And that's your phone?
-This is my phone. -Officer brown: Okay. So you got it back.
-I called, I got it back
Because I ran to the neighbor and I asked him,
I said, "please, can I call somebody?"
So I called the cops.
As soon as he hear that I'm on the phone with somebody,
He says, "let's talk about this. I'll give you your phone."
I walk back over here to get my phone and he's like,
"you're going to get the (bleep) out.
"you're not going to stay here for 30 days for free.
You got me effed up," all this other stuff.
And I'm like, "you didn't have to go that far at all."
I'm already trying to stay... Trying to find somewhere,
Because I don't want nobody
Making this harder for me already.
-Let us talk to him. Give us one second, okay? -Okay.
-She works with me.
So, uh, she needed somewhere to stay,
So I let her come stay here. -Officer brown: Okay.
-On the lease I told her that she has to keep the room clean,
But she pisses on herself. -Officer brown: Okay.
-So my house smell like ammonia. -Officer brown: Okay.
-So I told her the first month, I said,
"you're gonna have to do something about that."
-How long has she been staying here?
-Man: Since, like jan... I think four months.
-Okay. -Man: Four months at the most.
So her day was, um, her day...
Um, her lease, the lease
That we signed was officially over,
Uh, the end of this month.
-Officer brown: Yes, sir. -So...
-Officer brown: But you also stay here too?
-Yeah, this is my house that I own.
-Officer brown: How many other people stay in here?
-My son and my wife. -Officer brown: Okay.
-Man: Yeah. -Okay.
-So let me figure out... -Gotcha.
-...Some other details she told me,
And then I'm gonna get back to you,
And then hopefully we can just
All go home tonight, alright?
-Okay. -Officer brown: Let's see what's going on.
So when he took this phone, how did he take it?
-My door was cracked,
I had my phone in my hand like this.
I was literally eating.
I had literally my fork in one hand
Because I tried to stop my dog and my phone in the other hand.
I cracked my door and he's like, "so, do you have a plan?"
As soon as I say, "my 30-day notice,"
My door gets slammed open.
Now my phone is like this in my hand
And it's snatched out my hand.
-What do you need from us tonight?
-Woman: To be honest, I didn't know what to do.
-Yeah, I got you. Well, you did the right thing by calling us.
Yeah, you did the right thing by calling the police.
-I called my grandma because I didn't...
I've never been through this before.
-Gotcha. You're moving out tonight?
-Okay. -Grandma: I'm trying, yeah.
-Now, did she have a...
Does she have a leg to stand on?
I mean, because she has paid.
So if I didn't take her now what?
-He will have to evict her. -Yeah.
-Woman: Yeah. -Grandma: Thank you.
Now, did I not tell you that? -That's what I told him.
And he said he don't have to do all that.
-Sgt. Robinson: Well, you are leaving tonight, right?
-Grandma: I'm going to try to get everything I can get.
-So if, if you leave tonight, this would be an issue
You never have to worry about again.
And this will, this will be in the past.
And we're not kicking you out, trust me,
But I'm just giving you advice
If mom is willing to take you and you want to leave,
That's probably the best option. -Woman: Right.
-So that way we can keep all the drama down.
-Right. That's what I'm trying to do.
-Sgt. Robinson: Yeah, I mean-- -because I got to have surgery Monday,
So I got to start my medicine and prep tomorrow.
I don't have time for this foolishness.
Go get your stuff. They're going to wait.
Thank you all. -Sgt. Robinson: Hey, no problem.
That's what we're here for. -Grandma: Very much.
-Officer brown: I'm not going to say you're lucky,
But she didn't want to do anything tonight
Because we would have had to read your rights.
-Man: I don't, I didn't do nothing to her. -Possibly...
I didn't take anything from her.
But she said... -But that's what she alleged.
And we don't, we don't know... -(overlapping chatter)
-Sgt. Robinson: She, she didn't say that,
But sometimes when those calls come in,
It's interpreted as-- -why would I go to jail?
Just because of what she said?
-Sgt. Robinson: No, no, no, no, no. -Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I didn't take, I didn't take her phone, I didn't touch anything.
-Sgt. Robinson: Of course we have to investigate it.
Right, but you're saying I would have been arrested. -No.
-And I let her move in because we work together.
She was my little home girl, you know what I'm saying?
-Sgt. Robinson: Well, like you said, man,
You know, never let anybody move in.
I hate to say it, but never let anybody borrow your car
Because you're going to get, you're going to lose
Every single time, man.
-Man: Mm-hmm.
-Okay, right here. -Hey, man, I appreciate y'all.
-You got my key, don't you? -(indistinct chatter)
-Hey, man, but do you, you do understand
What's going on here though, man? -Yes, sir.
-Sgt. Robinson: Okay, find good roommates.
I understand, you know, you want a cheaper place to live,
But you guys have to get along with each other.
-Woman: I thought this was a good roommate.
I got you. Because you guys are friends too.
But, hey, like I said, you know, moving in with a family,
That, that, that was a recipe for disaster, though, you know?
If it was just, like, maybe him and you here,
But, I mean, he has a wife and kids
And you also have a dog and all that stuff.
So that's just a recipe for disaster.
-Grandma: And a lot of people ain't gonna let you bring an animal,
Especially (bleep) pissing on the floor.
I'ma tell you that right now.
-He was saying that you were like,
Urinating on the mattress and all the stuff,
That was his biggest complaint.
-Woman: He loves telling everybody,
Everybody, especially everybody at work.
But then when it...
It's just me, it's me having a problem.
It's me doing this, it's me being dirty.
It's me doing all this and being disrespectful.
It's me doing all this.
But he will not say what he's done.
-Sgt. Robinson: Okay. -It's okay.
-Don't matter though, this is a bridge burned,
And you don't have to never cross it again.
Y'all just work together. Be civil.
-Woman: ...On the phone with the cops. I'm straight.
-I got my money now. -You got exactly what you said.
And don't spend your money because you're going to need it
For a place to stay.
-Sgt. Robinson: Alright, guys, take care.
-Grandma: Thank you all very much.
-(over radio): 132 and bush, I've got him at gunpoint.
-Dispatch (over radio): Okay, gunpoint, 132 and bush.
-Cover's code 3. -Officer: Thanks, 10.
-(indistinct radio chatter)
-Dispatch: Okay, we'll still send a code 3.
-(theme music playing)