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Kevin: Today on
"This Old House"...

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Wallpaper removal
in older homes is unpredictable.

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It could take minutes or days.

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We'll tell you why.

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And we'll harvest glass
from this antique window

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to repair this one so we don't
lose those signature waves.

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Zack: Then I'll show you
how we take 130-year-old lumber

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and turn it into new
Southern yellow-pine floors.

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Man: That's it.

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Kevin: Hey, there.
I'm Kevin O'Connor,

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and welcome back to
"This Old House"

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here in Essex County,
New Jersey,

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where we are thrilled to be
working again

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with Zack Dettmore,
our general contractor,

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and his team on this beautiful
1890s Dutch Colonial Revival.

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Now, since we were here last,

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all of our mechanical rough-ins
have been completed

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and inspected, which allows
us to move on to insulation.

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Yesterday, there was some
closed-cell insulation installed

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in spot places,
like up in the attic,

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and today, we're getting
fiberglass batts installed

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on most of the exterior walls.

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And in the basement,
you may recall that we

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pulled a new 4-inch sewer line
from the street to the house.

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That trench down in the basement
has been backfilled

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and now has a new layer
of concrete on it.

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And with all of that
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hey, good morning, Ben --
we still have got a bunch to do.

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Zack, good to see you.
Zack: Hey, Kevin. Welcome.

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Kevin: Thank you.
How you feeling?

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Zack: Oh,
feeling great.

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The logistical nightmare of
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align the inspections
is always stressful.

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Now that we're through that,
all hands on deck,

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get this job done.

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Kevin: Let's go. I'm up for it.
Zack: Alright.

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So, we got wallpaper
upstairs and downstairs

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that they don't want to keep.

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So Carter's the guy
to remove all this stuff.

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Carter:
Nice to meet you.

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Zack: I'll let you guys
take it from here.

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Kevin: Oh, thanks.

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He's running away from the
wallpaper. He's smart, huh?

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Carter: Yeah.
It's never a fun process,

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but a process that has to
happen regardless, so...

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Kevin: It's on a lot
of old houses, right?

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They loved it for a while,
so it's everywhere.

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Carter: Oh, yeah.

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We've done some houses
where it's in every room.

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Kevin: And what do you
think about the

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taking-it-down process?

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Carter: Well, you know, it's
a little bit of trial and error.

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So, normally,
we start with a steamer

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and try
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where we use it on the walls

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and the steam gets through
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and lifts it
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In this case, we tried that.
It didn't work.

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So we had to use
a different tool,

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which is a
wallpaper-scoring tool.

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It has these little serrated
blades on the edge of it.

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And what you do is,
you run it over the wall,

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and it makes little, tiny holes,
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allowing the chemical stripper
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And the enzymes
will lift the glue

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and let the paper
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Kevin: You're on sort of
the second option.

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I see Kennedy's got
the sprayer going.

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Is it typical,
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that you never know
what you're getting into?

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Carter: You never really know.

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Kevin: Yeah.
Carter: Yeah.

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It all depends on how the wall
was prepped prior to the paper.

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You know, it really
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Some people didn't do that.

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And then what you're going
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is actually going to lift
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or the drywall off of
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And then it makes just a mess
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actually prepping the wall,
then, to get it ready for paint.

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Kevin: Have you sprayed once
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Carter: We've soaked this wall
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after scoring it
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and what that's just doing
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and it's going to make
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But, you know,
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that requires some patience,
and we got to go

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little by little to
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Kevin: The other big thing is
that it's only a single layer

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of wallpaper, right?

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I'm sure you've seen cases where
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Carter:
Oh, absolutely.

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where people did
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where people just painted
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And that's just
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because you can't get anything
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And at that point, you're better
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Kevin: Yeah,
I know that one well.

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So, he'll keep going,
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And this looks like
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looks like he got lucky,
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that it's coming off.
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Kevin: When you expose it down
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do you wash
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that the primer will take
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Carter:
We'll still wash it.

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We'll probably even hit it,
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with a pad sander real quick,

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just to kind of take
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And then we'll go through
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Yeah, we're trying
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to make it as easy as possible

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for the next tray to come in
and prep these walls.

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Kevin: Awesome. Well,
I appreciate the information,

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and your guy's killin' it
for us, so thank you.

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Carter: Absolutely. Thank you.
Kevin: Alright, Carter.

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The windows in our house
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both the sash and the glass.

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And when you have glass
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well, it's very distinctive.

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Ours is full of waves.
Have a look at the reflection.

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You can see the waves
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Unfortunately, though,
we have some breaks.

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These panes are broken
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And if we were to replace
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well, it would be
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It'd be like a poke in the eye.
It'd be all you see.

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So we've got a crew on-site

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that's actually going to harvest
some of the original glass

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from other windows,
as well as their archives,

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and make repairs
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Ben, Gordon,
good to see you guys.

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Ben: Good to see you.
Gordon: Oh, yeah.

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Kevin: So,
we appreciate the help.

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This window is
a problem, too, right?

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Ben: Yeah.
It's cracked here and there.

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Kevin: Okay.

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Ben: This piece is
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to make the three pieces
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Kevin: So harvest this.
Ben: Yeah.

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Kevin: Cut it up. Yeah.
Ben: Exactly.

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Kevin: And then
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Ben: So, in here,
we've got a window

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that we salvaged
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It's got a big piece
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even bigger than this,
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cut it down to size
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Kevin: And, obviously, you
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How did you get
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Ben: So, we cut the paint line
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that keeps the sash in place.

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We pried this off.

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We removed the chains
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Kevin: Yep.
Ben: We tied them in knots

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so they don't fall down
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Kevin: Yeah.
Ben: And let them rest there

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and put this on the table
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Kevin: And the process
going forward is what?

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Gordon: First things first
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get rid of this old material.

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Kevin: Nice and clean.
Glass is still secure, though?

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Gordon: Yep. So, last thing
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pop out these
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Kevin: Alright.
Gordon: That'll loosen up
the glass.

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Ben: Yeah,
these hold the glass in,

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especially while
the glazing is drying.

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Kevin: Yeah.
Ben: Keeps it nice and firm.

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Kevin: Can I see that?
Ben: Sure.

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Kevin: Yeah, so,
you get the idea right there.

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Pointed and sharp so that
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Now what?

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Ben: Now we're going to
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two broken corners
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and then pull
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Gordon: Anybody home?

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Ben: Gordon,
you want to do the honors?

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Gordon: Let's give it a try.
Kevin: Whoa, whoa.
What's the hammer?

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Ben: Gordon's gonna hit
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and that should move
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Kevin: There it is.
Look at that.

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Kevin: So, will you just mind
holding that up?

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Let me just check out some
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Gordon: Yeah.

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Kevin: Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no mistaking it there.

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That's the magic right there.

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It's not a cut.
It's just a score.

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What do you call these?
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One jaw is convex,
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So if you can imagine your
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with the score in the center,

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when you squeeze them together,
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The score is just
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but we're breaking the glass.

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That's how we cut it.

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That's another way to snap it.

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Kevin: You got two openings
ready for us, Gordon?

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How'd you prep these?

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Gordon:
I scraped out all that glaze,

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got it back down
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and then we applied shellac
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between the wood and the glaze.

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Now I'm just going to add
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so that when we lay the glass
in, it's not just wood-to-glass.

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Kevin: How'd your guy
Ben do with sizing?

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Gordon: Yeah.
Kevin: Good?

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Gordon: Pretty good.

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Kevin: Modern-day
glazing point.

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Sort of a little bit more
convenient point to push in,

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but it gives you the little tabs
there for your putty knife?

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Gordon: Mm-hmm.

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Now we can do
a final glazing.

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Kevin: This glazing process,
it hasn't changed.

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Gordon: Because it just works.
It's simple and effective.

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It takes a couple months
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and by that time,
it'll be pretty solid.

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And the last step here
is just to clean up the window.

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Kevin: So, what do you
got there, Gordon?

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Gordon:
This is the whiting powder.

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It's gonna absorb any
excess oils off of the glass.

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This whiting powder
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Kevin: Look at that.
What do you think, Ben?

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Good?
Ben: Looks good.

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Kevin: You approve?
I think it looks fantastic.

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Well done, guys.
Gordon: Thanks.

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Zack: So, over here
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originally,
there was a deck that

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was accessible off that door.

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Now we've got
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and there's this new roof
that overhangs.

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We could have a post
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but it would land right between
these two sets of stairs.

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So this temporary bracket
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and the architect
has designed a new bracket

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that is going to support
that load.

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So, Justin, the engineer, had to
do some specifications on this.

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Right?
Justin: That's correct.

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So, first, the architect
came up with this design,

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which he ran by the homeowners,
and they approved.

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And then he worked
with his engineer

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to determine the specifications
for both the post size,

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which, in this case,
is a 6x6 cedar post.

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The engineer then provided
a specific fastener schedule

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that calls for
6-inch-long timber screws.

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Zack: Okay, so,
we're ready to put it in?

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Justin:
We are ready to put it in.

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Zack, so, we've already put
this string line up,

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which references
the outside edge of our bracket.

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And we can use this as a way
to determine the angles

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that we need to cut at the top
and the bottom of the bracket.

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Zack: So the bracket is
coming up here

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and supporting this beam.

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We need to know the angle
to cut the top of the bracket.

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So we will use
this angle finder.

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I'll reference this side
on the bottom of the beam,

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and this side will be
the outside of our bracket.

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And that should be
able to get us a perfect angle.

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So I just need to get that
lined up right to the string

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so it's just kissing it.

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And we can see, in the
viewfinder, the angle.

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Justin: Now I'll measure
the bottom one.

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Zack, this angle is 30.4.

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So we can take this
over to the 6x6,

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transfer the angle,
and start to make our cuts.

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Zack: Alright,
looks good.

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Let's do a measurement
on the outside of this.

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Use my square as a reference.

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You good, Justin?

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Justin: Got a little belly
in that tape, Zack.

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Zack: You ready?

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84 5/16.

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Alright, Justin,
let's do a practice cut,

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because we don't want to risk
getting it wrong

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on this cedar beam.
Justin: Sounds good, Zack.

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I'll take the angle finder,

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lay it on the 2x6 we're going to
use as a template.

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Mark a line that represents
the bottom of the bracket.

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Zack: If you hold the tape
there, I'll go to 84 5/16.

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That's what I said, right?
Justin: Excellent.

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And then I'm going to change the
angle finder back to 61 degrees.

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Zack: Alrighty.
Justin: Which is
the top measurement.

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There you go.

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Zack: Okay. You want to
make a cut on that side?

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Justin: Let's do it.

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Zack: Alright,
let's see how it looks.

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My angle is great.
How's yours?

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Justin: Looks good to me,
Zack.

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Zack: Alright,
let's lay our template on top

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of this cedar post.

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How's that look there?
Justin: It looks good.

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Zack: And we want to
reference the outside here,

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because that's
where our string line was.

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You good there?
Justin: I am good there.

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Zack: Alright,
let's make a mark.

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Justin: There you go, Zack.
Let's give it a test-fit.

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Zack: I'll put it down
on that cleat there.

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Okay.

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How's it look down there?
Justin: It looks good.

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Zack:
This is perfect up here.

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Now let's lay
out our fasteners.

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Justin: The engineer
provided us with

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the spacing of the six fasteners
that we're going to be using.

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So, I'm going 6 inches up
from the bottom.

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And then I'm going to
be going

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and inch and 3/4
up from that two times.

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And then I'm going to use
a combination square

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set to an inch and 3/4 to mark
the center of each fastener.

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And then we'll be drilling here,

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here, here, here,
here, and here.

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I start by using
a drill-press attachment.

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This tool allows me
to keep the plug cutter centered

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as it enters the wood.

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That plug allows me
to cover the hole,

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which disguises the fastener
that holds the bracket in place.

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Alright, Zack.
Here you go.

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Zack: Thank you.

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Justin: You're okay
up there, Zack?

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Zack: Yeah.

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So, I'm going to put
some adhesive in these holes,

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and then we'll put these cedar
plugs we made right in the hole.

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So, once this glue sets up,

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we're going to cut these flush
and sand everything,

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put some epoxy in any of
the checking that's happening.

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Then we can prime
the whole bracket.

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♪

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Ethan and Harley
loved the old

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Southern yellow-pine floors
in their house,

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but, unfortunately, when
we got down and inspected them,

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we saw they were
just too thin to sand,

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so we had to remove all of them.

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But they didn't want to lose
that character.

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So we've come to a local mill

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that's only about a few miles
away from the project house,

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and, here, they take
old-growth timbers like this

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and they mill it into floors
like this that are nice and new.

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Let's see how they do it.
Hey, Anthony.

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Anthony: Hey. What's up, Zack?
Zack: Nice to see you.

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Anthony: Likewise.
Good to see you.

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Zack: Tell me a bit about
the type of work you do here.

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Anthony: If it's got to do with
reclaimed wood,

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we do it --
the long and the short.

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But process old timber,
old lumber

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and make new product out of it.

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Zack: Which is great. It's
exactly why I thought of you,

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because our homeowners
really wanted what they had,

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which was a soft-wood look,

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but with that durable
old-growth characteristic.

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Anthony: Absolutely.
Zack: So, how do you get that?

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Anthony: I mean, we get a lot of
wood from all over the place,

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but for your particular project,

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it was only 20 minutes away,
in Plainfield.

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It was a turn-of-the-century
building,

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you know, so right
around the same time period

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as your client's home.

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And we salvaged all,
you know, the vertical posts,

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the floor joists, the decking,
the rafters.

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If it was salvageable,
we got our hands on it.

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We've got some
period-correct material

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that's going to go into,

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you know,
right about the same-age home.

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Zack: Can you show me
how you make it?

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Anthony: Absolutely.
Let's go for it.
Zack: Sweet.

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So, what's our first step,
Anthony?

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Anthony: So, our first step
is taking this timber

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that was one of the posts
on the second floor

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and really start to dissect

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and pull any sort of
metal contaminants

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that may be in the wood so
that we can process it.

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Zack: Right. So unlike
a normal flooring supplier,

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where you start
with just a nice clean tree,

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you don't know what's in here.

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Anthony:
We're going to find out.

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Nails, screws, staples --
it's all got to come out.

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Zack: Alright, great.

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How thorough do
we need to be here?

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Anthony: The transformation
of this timber stops here

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if we don't remove the nails or
any sort of metal contaminants.

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We can't put it
through the equipment.

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Zack: I'll be thorough.
Anthony: Yeah, please do.

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Zack: [ Laughs ]

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Anthony: So, once we've got
everything visible,

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we're going to break out
the metal detectors

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and really see
what's hiding on us.

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And we usually use
just the front portion

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of the metal detector,
because if you just pass

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the wand,
it just kind of gets lost.

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So if you got a --
If you catch a beep --

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Zack: Oh, there it is.
Yeah, you're right.

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Anthony: There you go.
Zack: Just skipped one.

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Alright. So, it's definitely
a slow process.

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Anthony: It takes time,
but it's a necessary step.

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Zack: Well, I'm impressed.
What's the next step?

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Anthony:
Let's go off to the resaw.

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Zack: Let's do it.
Anthony: Let's go check it out.

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Zack: So, are these
the actual beams we're using?

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Anthony: These were some
of the floor joists

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and the rafters
out of Plainfield.

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They've been through
the de-nailing process.

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We know that they're clean
and clear.

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From here,
we're going to take this

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and cut it into
a 1-inch flooring blank.

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Zack: Alright,
let's look in here.

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Oh, my gosh!
Anthony: Check that out.

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Zack: That's amazing.

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Look at how tight
those growth rings are there.

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Alright, so,
what's the next step?

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Anthony: Alright, so,
this is one of the three kilns

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that we run.

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The next step for the material
that just came off

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the band saw will disappear
in here for about

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a week and a half,
two weeks, or so.

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We remove
the additional moisture

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that does not need to be
in there,

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get it down to where it's
a workable moisture content.

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Zack: So, it's surprising to me
a board like this

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that just has been sitting
around for over 100 years

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still has moisture in it.

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Anthony: It's incredible
what it hangs on to.

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But let's see what
the moisture meter has to say.

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15%, 16%.

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It's way too high
to go into a customer's home,

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especially nowadays
with all the heating systems

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and forced hot air,
the heat pumps, and all these,

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you know, almost net-zero homes
that are very well-insulated.

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That house, in essence,
becomes the kiln for the wood.

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So it's going to pull
all that additional moisture

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out of the material,
and the wood's going to --

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Naturally, it's going to react
as it naturally does and shrink.

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Zack: Right.
Anthony: There's going to be
problems.

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Zack: What's the moisture
content on that piece of wood?

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Anthony: This one came out
a little while ago.

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It's cooled down now.

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We want it
6% to 8% is ideal.

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9% is acceptable.

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Anything over that is --
it needs more time.

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Alright, so, we're off to the
next step, here at the planer.

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Zack: Alright, so,
you're basically just going to

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skin off the layer
to make this board

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more refined and consistent?

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Anthony: Precisely.
And on top of that,

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it's also going to remove
any extra pitch

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that we may have built
up on the surface

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and just make it, to your point,
much more consistent.

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We want
two nice parallel sides.

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Zack: Got it. And by "pitch,"
you mean this sap

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that's sort of leaching
out after the kiln?

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Anthony: Exactly. Exactly.

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That's just the resin
that's been hanging out in that

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knot for the past 300 years.

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We really want to
get it to a point

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where it's passable, because
the pitch and the equipment --

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not exactly friends.

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It just causes slowdowns.

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So we're gonna let the planer
do all the heavy lifting for us.

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Zack: That looks awesome.
Anthony: Incredible, right?

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So, we're going to refine it
just that much further.

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Now we're off
to the straight-line rip.

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We'll size it down
in preparation for the molder,

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where we'll get the tongue,
the groove, the relief cuts,

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and the final face plane.

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Zack: This is the molder?
Anthony: This is the molder.

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This is where we're going
to take that flooring blank

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that we just made,

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that we just saw is down
on the straight-line rip,

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and it's going to
pass through this machine

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with those two face planes,

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two on the bottom side,
with relief cuts,

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and also the tongue-and-groove.

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It's a great machine.

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Zack: Anthony,
this looks incredible.

481
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Anthony:
Big difference, right?

482
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Zack: I gotta say,
this actually looks better

483
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than what was in the house.

484
00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:40,033
It's a lot tighter-grained,

485
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but still that tough, hard
pine we were looking for.

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Anthony: Very dense.
Yeah, it's incredible.

487
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Ready to go to the house
to acclimate and be installed.

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Zack: Great. And we're going to
get it sanded

489
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probably in a month or two,
and then we got a finish on it.

490
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It'll look like it's been
there for 130 years.

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Anthony:
That's the plan.

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Zack: Dude, thank you so much.
Anthony: Likewise.

493
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Zack: This is perfect.
Anthony: Appreciate it.

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Kevin: Next time on
"This Old House"...

503
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We are taking on a
very complicated

504
00:22:45,066 --> 00:22:47,033
tile job here
in the primary shower,

505
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:50,166
and hopefully we'll be making
as few cuts as possible.

506
00:22:50,233 --> 00:22:52,500
Zack: We'll install
custom kitchen cabinetry

507
00:22:52,567 --> 00:22:57,600
that fits seamlessly with every
angle of the walls and floors.

508
00:22:57,667 --> 00:22:59,767
I kind of felt, when I moved it,
that it, like, keyed in.

509
00:22:59,834 --> 00:23:02,000
Man: Popped into -- Yeah.
Zack: Yeah.

510
00:23:02,066 --> 00:23:04,633
And we'll show you how to
make this 130-year-old tub

511
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look brand-new.

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Kevin:
That's next time.