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Kevin:
Today on "This Old House"...

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Mauro: I'll show you how
to make this fiberglass door

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to look like wood
with just stain.

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Verprauskus: We're gonna do
a terraced retaining wall

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and some drainage,
some gravel backfill.

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Kevin: And in Swannanoa,

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we are hanging
solid-core...interior doors.

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Man: Ahh. That's it.

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Kevin: Hey, there.
I'm Kevin O'Connor.

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and welcome back
to "This Old House"

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and to Western North Carolina,

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where we are working to help
rebuild several homes damaged

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by Hurricane Helene.

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Those houses are all in and
around the city of Asheville,

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which is where I am today,

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and specifically in
its historic Biltmore Village.

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This centuries-old village
was built at the base

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of the Vanderbilt estate
and at the intersection

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of the French Broad
and the Swannanoa Rivers.

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A beautiful part of town,

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but one that was hit hard
from the floods

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that came after Helene.

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Many of the buildings
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but as you can see,
a lot of them are back,

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and that has brought a lot
of optimism to this community.

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So I thought I'd meet
with a local architect

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and learn more about the history
of this beautiful village,

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and also what he thinks
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for this historic part of town.

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So, Robert, a very nice
vantage point of the village,

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even on a rainy day like today.
What's its history?

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Griffin:
The history of Biltmore Village

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was that it was basically built
to order for George Vanderbilt.

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He hired the architect
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and Frederick Law Olmsted

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to lay out the village...
Kevin: Mm-hmm.

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Griffin: ...to his direction,

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and he wanted to create
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that resembled
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like you might see in England.

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Kevin: So it's immediately
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but its purpose?
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was to create
a focal point for something

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to grow from at the entrance
to his estate.

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So people who came on
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were presented with the village.

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Kevin: And the style of
the houses are very distinctive.

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Griffin: They are. You know, we
would call them English Tudor,

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but they have the jerkinhead
roofs on a lot of gables.

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Kevin: That's that very
distinctive clip to the gable.

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Griffin: Yeah.
And that softens the buildings.

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Kevin:
And between the half-timbering,

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on a traditional Tudor,

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I'm used to seeing
a stucco much smoother.

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This is a very distinctive look.
Griffin: Right.

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The locals refer to it
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In England,
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and it became pebbledash

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because you literally mix
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of pebbles and concrete
and slosh it up onto the wall.

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Kevin: And this line
of beautiful buildings

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and cottages right here --
I mean, these were never here.

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Griffin: These were not.

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And, uh, there were plans
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Unfortunately,
George Vanderbilt died in 1914,

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and the Flood of 1916
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And after that, Edith
eventually sold the village.

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Kevin: Speaking of floods.

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Griffin: Yeah.
Kevin: The Flood of 1916.

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Griffin: Yeah.

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Kevin: Worse
or not as worse as Helene?

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Griffin: Not as worse.
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Griffin: No.
I know our property here

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is above the 500-year flood line
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Kevin: How much water did
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Griffin: We got about 4 feet
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Kevin: And how devastating
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which is lower
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Griffin: Yeah.
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the water was up
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Kevin:
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did you do to these buildings?

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Griffin: We basically tore
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Kevin: And I saw
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Griffin: Yeah, we were able
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and all the woodworking.

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We did enjoy disassembling
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and not wasting historic fabric.

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I have to say, I'm very proud.

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Our neighbors are going for it,
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Kevin: Just in love
with the village, as well.

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Griffin: Yeah, it's coming back.
Kevin: So you're optimistic?

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Griffin: Not just optimistic.
Certain.

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Kevin: All right.
Well, thank you.

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And thank you for your help
in saving the village.

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Griffin: I appreciate your help.
Kevin: Pleasure.

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In East Asheville,

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Mauro is helping Paula stain
a new door

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that replaced the one
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Paula: Good morning, Mauro.
Mauro: Good morning, Paula.

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Paula: I'm so glad you're here
to help me with this door.

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Um, I think I want to stain
the whole thing.

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Mauro: The whole thing?

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Paula: Yeah, like,
the whole outside of this

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and probably the inside,
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But it's made up of all these
different pieces and parts.

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Mauro:
It's all different materials.

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So we have the fiberglass here
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a wood composite
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and you have this side panel.
Paula: Mm-hmm.

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Mauro: Everything is gonna be
stained on here.

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Paula: Yeah, yeah.

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And I'm worried that it's

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not all gonna look
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Mauro: Well, you're gonna have
a slight variation,

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but it's gonna look
really cool.

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Paula: Okay.
Mauro: All right.

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Paula:
And so I masked it out already.

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And the door, you know, is here.

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But this side light thing,
I don't think it comes out.

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Mauro: No. It's just, like,
one whole piece put together.

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Paula: Yeah. I think it's part
of, like, the doorjamb.

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Mauro: Yes. We do need to take
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bring it inside,
lay it flat on the sawhorses,

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and then we start to stain it.
Paula: Okay.

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I think my contractors
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Mauro: All right. Sounds good.
Let's get started.

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So we'll get all we need for
materials, and we'll go to work.

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Paula: Awesome.
Mauro: Okay.

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Paula, ready to go to work?

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Paula: I sure am.

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Mauro: All right, the
first thing that we have to do

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before any stain goes on
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We're gonna have to clean
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And we're going to use
denatured alcohol, not water.

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Paula: Why are we using that?

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Mauro: Because it cleans better
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Just dip your rag right in there

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and we're gonna go like this.

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Paula: Are we just wiping
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Mauro: We're doing both.

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Look at this, Paula.
Paula: Oh, my gosh.

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Mauro:
First strike, look what we got.

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Paula: Wow.
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the reason
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It's alcohol and it evaporates
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Paula: And it doesn't leave
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Mauro:
Doesn't leave any residue.

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All right. What do you think?
Paula: I think it looks great.

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You know, I think I've decided
I want to stain both sides.

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Mauro: Now that you see this
side looks so good like this.

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Paula: Yeah, it looks so good.

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I didn't know
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Mauro:
All right, let's flip this door.

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Clean the other side.

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Paula: If a little stain
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I'll be able to clean it off?

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Mauro: Absolutely.

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Even when you're cleaning the
door, always go with the grain.

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All right? Okay.

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Paula, it looks really nice
and it looks really clean.

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Um, we're gonna have to take
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until this completely dries.

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Once you see the door,
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that means we'll be ready
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And then we're gonna use
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Uh, okay.
It's time to do some stain.

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We've got the room
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front door open,
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But for acid safety,
let's put some masks on.

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So I want you to do
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Paula: Okay.
Mauro: You're gonna do one side,

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one side,
and then your top coating.

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And I'll take care
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I'll start with
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Just when you're cleaned up,
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when you're applying the stain.

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We're using
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I'm using a 2 1/2 angle.

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And you are doing this, too,
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Okay. Door is completely covered
with a coat of stain.

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Let's take a break.

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We'll wait
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We'll come back.
We'll remove the excess.

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But this time, we're
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to smooth this thing out.

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Once we remove all the excess,
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I'm gonna wait about a couple
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Paula: Mm-hmm.
Mauro: You're gonna apply...

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Exterior is spar urethane.

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It's a water-base,
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You may need two,
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Paula: I'll send you a picture
when it's done, Mauro.

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Mauro: I will wait for it.
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Kevin: In North Asheville,

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Jenn's meeting up with local
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to help build new boulder walls

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and learn about
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Jenn: Ooh, it's a beauty.
Verprauskus: Looks good.

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Jenn.
Jenn: This looks perfect.

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Verprauskus: That's
an amazing specimen boulder.

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Jenn: Absolutely.
I like how it hooks around.

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Verprauskus: Yeah, it's like
a perfect natural anchor point

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right into the slope.

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Jenn: I really like it.

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So what I want to do
is refer back to your plan.

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Now that we have
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let's go see what you have
for the rest of the front.

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Verprauskus: Great.
So this is the master plan

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of the entire property.
Jenn: Mm-hmm.

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Verprauskus: Right now,
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So with this slope in mind,

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we want to do
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We don't want to go high
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That would make this feel
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So what we want to do is
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And we're gonna be doing some
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Jenn:
I really appreciate this layout.

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I love how it feels
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and that you're gonna have
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in between these two
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giving it more space.

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everyone's a little bit nervous

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of having trees
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Verprauskus: When I first met
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they tried to get
grass growing here for a while,

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and they just couldn't make
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because of all the tree canopy.
Jenn: Right.

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Verprauskus: So now we're gonna
allow more sunlight to come in

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and we can get
more lawn established.

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And I also wanted to do
an island planting bed here

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so we could minimize
our exposure from the road.

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Jenn: Give it a little bit
of privacy screen.

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Verprauskus: Yeah.
And I did really try to focus

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on a lot of native plantings.
Jenn: Mm-hmm.

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Verprauskus: I think one thing
that's really important

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is introducing native species
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after they were taken out
by the storm.

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Jenn: Right. And obviously
we're in the woods here,

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so put them back in their homes.

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Verprauskus: Yep. Mm-hmm.
Jenn: Well, I appreciate this.

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So let's get moving
to the next step.

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Um, what do you think? Drainage?

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Verprauskus:
I think that's really important.

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Jenn:
Okay, so behind all the walls,

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let's just go through
what we're gonna do.

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Verprauskus: Okay. That's great.
Jenn: All right.

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Verprauskus: So this pipe,
it actually has holes in it

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to allow water to pass through,
filtrate.

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And then we have it sloped
down with the natural grade.

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And we have both pipes
exiting that way.

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Right?
So any of our water

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that's coming down this way
will be taken care of.

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Then what we're gonna do --
This is on a gravel base,

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and that perforated pipe sits
on a gravel base.

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And then we put more gravel
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to allow
that water to come through.

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Jenn: Exactly.
Verprauskus: Yeah.

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And then this right here is
our landscape fabric.

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The reason why we use this
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sediment coming in and blocking.

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Jenn: And clogging everything.
Verprauskus: Yeah.

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Jenn:
We do it the same way up north.

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But next up,
we need some more crushed stone.

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All right, ready for steps?

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Verprauskus: Yeah.
I'll grab my tape measure.

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Jenn: Perfect.

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Okay, this is where the steps
are gonna go, right?

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Verprauskus: Absolutely.
Jenn: So before that,

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we need to move the fabric
out of the way.

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Verprauskus: Yeah. So I'm
gonna cut this right here

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so we can keep some fabric
over the rock.

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Jenn: And the purpose of keeping
the fabric over the rock

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is, we have a second course
to go on.

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Verprauskus: All right. So now
we're gonna grab this edge

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and we're gonna wrap it.
Jenn: All right.

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Verprauskus:
And try to get it nice and taut.

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Jenn: Yep.
Verprauskus: And then that way,

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this will come down later.
Jenn: Yep.

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Verprauskus: And then we have
room for our stone steppers.

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Jenn: Perfect.
Verprauskus: Let's measure

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the opening.
We're looking at about 5 feet.

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And we don't want them
to be super-tight.

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We want a little bit of room
for movement when we set them.

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Jenn: Okay.
Verprauskus: So I measured out

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about 4'7" inches
of rock face.

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Jenn: Okay.
Verprauskus: So let's set them

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in there.
Jenn: So we have two?

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Verprauskus: Yeah, two.
Jenn: Perfect.

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And then we can stick plants in
and growth?

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Verprauskus: Yes.
Like sedums and thyme.

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Jenn: Let's go.
You want to pick out the finals?

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Verprauskus: Yep. Right up here.
Jenn: Yeah, that's the one.

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Verprauskus: How many inches?
The other one was 28.

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Jenn: 28.
Verprauskus: Okay.

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Let's see if they match up.

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Jenn: Yep.

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Verprauskus: So, yeah,
we're about 4'6".

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Jenn: That should work.
Verprauskus: Okay. Yeah.

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Jenn: And then when we install
it, just lift up that edge.

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Verprauskus: Yep. We'll put
the gravel underneath it,

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lift it up, make it nice
and tight.

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Jenn: Sounds good.
Verprauskus: Okay.

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Yeah.
Jenn: Kind of on the money.

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Verprauskus: Yeah.
It looks pretty good to me.

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You ready for the next one?

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Jenn: Yeah.
Verprauskus: Let's do it.

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Tip this one.

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I want high under here
for gravel.

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Jenn: Yeah.

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Okay.
I think that's pretty good.

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And then squish it together?
Verprauskus: Yeah.

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And push them together.

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Jenn: That's pretty good, right?
Verprauskus: Yeah. That's good.

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Good enough for now, I think.

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Yeah.
Jenn: I like it.

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The next step would be to put
in the boulders

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as the second layer.

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Ooh, what about this one?

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Verprauskus:
I really like this one.

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Jenn: All right.
This one will be great

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next to the steps we put in

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as the beginning
of the second course.

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Verprauskus:
Yeah, I think it's perfect.

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[ Beeping ]

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All right, well,
we got the second step in.

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Jenn: It looks fantastic.

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I can see
how your design has the flow.

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And I love the organic material.
All right.

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So next step is
the second course down here.

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Verprauskus: Perfect.

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[ Hammering ]
Kevin: Hey, Noah.

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Good to see you again.

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Noah: Hey, Kevin.
Kevin: How you doing?

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Noah: Pretty good. How are you?

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Kevin: I'm doing all right.

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So, uh, today's task --

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hanging doors.
Noah: Yeah.

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Kevin: Nice turning point
in the project.

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Noah: We've got some pre-hung
solid-wood five-panel.

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Kevin: Okay. [ Knocks ]
Very nice.

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And you got
your rough openings here.

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What is your process?

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Noah: Well, I usually hang
doors by myself,

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so I do
a little different process.

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But the first thing I want to do
is clean up any Sheetrock

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that overhangs the framing.

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The next thing I'm gonna do
after we clean this up is,

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um, I'm gonna put
shims at three places

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right underneath our hinges.

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Kevin: And you're gonna do that
right to the framing stud?

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Noah: Correct.
Kevin: You get those,

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and I can clean up for you
while you get that ready.

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[ Vacuum whirring ]

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Noah: Yeah. So this, uh --

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This original door opening is
a little bigger than our door.

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So I'm just gonna pack
this side out.

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And then I'll --
I'll put my shims against this

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and level the shims.

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So I've got about 3/8

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of a gap here.
Kevin: Right there.

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Noah: So I'm gonna start
shimming at the bottom.

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Kevin: Okay.

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Noah: So I've got
my 1/8 shims here

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and 3/16 here.

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I can put these together
in different combinations.

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Hold what you got.

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[ Nail gun firing ]

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Kevin: All right, Noah.
I've held my tongue long enough.

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When we've hung
pre-hung doors in the past,

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we have leaned them
into the rough opening,

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and then we have come
behind the hinges with shims

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so that we could screw
through those.

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You're not only putting your
shims below the hinge spots,

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but you're also just doing this

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without even putting
the door slab in.

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Noah: So a lot of times
on these hinges in the factory,

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the screws come out
the back side of the jamb.

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You can't slide them.

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And this just alleviates
all those issues.

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Kevin:
So you're working by yourself.

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This is that workaround.
Noah: Exactly.

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Kevin: And you're basically
saying if I've got

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one plumb side
and you know it's plumb...

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Noah: Yeah.
Kevin: ...now you can just set

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this in and work off of that.

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Noah:
Once I get the floor right.

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Kevin: Ah.
That's what we're doing next?

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Noah: That's next.
Kevin: Okay.

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Noah: So this
is a perfectly level line.

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We measure down to the finished
floor on each side.

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12...

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and 12.

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Kevin: Hey, look at that, huh?
Noah: It's great.

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Kevin: So that's level.
You're good with that.

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Had it not been?

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Noah: Had it not been,
I would take the smaller number,

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which would mean
the floor is higher,

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and by the difference
in these numbers,

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that's
how much I'm gonna take off

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of that side of the jamb.

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Kevin: So you would just go
and, you know,

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theoretically just trim

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a tiny bit off of one side
or the other...

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Noah: Exactly.

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Kevin:
...so that when you put this in,

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you now know it is plumb
on this side,

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level on the floor.
Noah: That's right.

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Kevin: And with those two,
you're good to...

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head off to the races.
Noah: We're good.

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Kevin: All right.
Can we put this in?

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Noah: Let's do it.
Let's pop the slab out.

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Kevin: These are those screws
you were talking about

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that come through the hinge
out of the factory.

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Shims coming in or out
could get hung up on those.

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Noah: Yeah.
Kevin: So you're going below it

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with shims.

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This is your hinge side, right?
Noah: That's it.

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Check it this way.

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Okay, I'm happy there.

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Let's pop some nails in it.

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[ Nail gun firing ]

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And if I need to adjust it,
these are just trim nails.

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You can move them around...
Kevin: Mm-hmm.

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Noah: ...with a hammer.

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Kevin: You are...

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plumb on both planes.

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Nice.

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Put the slab back in.
Noah: Yeah.

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Let's just double-check

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that our reveal is good
on the left side.

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So from here, our casing,
we'll measure it,

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and our casing will determine
where this goes.

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Kevin: So you're not going
to infill this

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and plumb this right now?

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Noah: No.
Kevin: Ooh!

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You're just full of tricks.

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All right.
Is this coming back out?

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Are you gonna...
Noah: Yeah. Let's pull it.

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So this is our casing material.

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We want to keep
a quarter-inch reveal...

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Kevin: All the way around.
Noah: ...all the way around.

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So the first thing we can do
is use this trilevel.

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So we'll draw a line
right here...

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all the way around.

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Kevin: And then when we come
back, we can set to the line.

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Noah: Exactly.

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Kevin: Beautiful.

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Noah:
Got our casing parts here,

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so we're gonna pocket screw
the legs to the top.

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Okay. So another thing
we like to do to our casing

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00:20:07,166 --> 00:20:11,033
before we install it is,
we'll take the biscuit joiner

481
00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:15,233
and we'll --
we'll cut some biscuit holes

482
00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:18,166
so that when we run our base,

483
00:20:18,233 --> 00:20:20,933
these biscuits
will hold us flush

484
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,166
and not get kicked back
when we nail it.

485
00:20:23,233 --> 00:20:26,166
Kevin: So just a nice way
to line up your baseboard

486
00:20:26,233 --> 00:20:27,233
and your side casing.

487
00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:28,666
Noah: Exactly.

488
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,566
Kevin: So you like
to pre-assemble your casing,

489
00:20:32,633 --> 00:20:34,066
just like we did with
the windows.

490
00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:35,366
Noah: Exactly.
Kevin: Finish casing

491
00:20:35,433 --> 00:20:37,466
pre-assembled.
Noah: It keeps it all flat.

492
00:20:40,966 --> 00:20:43,166
Okay.

493
00:20:45,966 --> 00:20:49,033
[ Nail gun firing ]

494
00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:50,900
Kevin: Interesting.

495
00:20:50,966 --> 00:20:53,900
Make the R.O. plumb,
set the jamb to it.

496
00:20:53,966 --> 00:20:55,300
It's plumb.
Noah: Right.

497
00:20:55,366 --> 00:20:57,233
Kevin:
Bring the casing into the line.

498
00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:58,866
It's plumb.
Noah: Yeah.

499
00:20:58,933 --> 00:21:01,000
Kevin: And then you just work
your way around.

500
00:21:01,066 --> 00:21:03,300
[ Nail gun firing ]

501
00:21:12,633 --> 00:21:15,633
Noah: So I've got
my 1/8-inch spacer here.

502
00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:20,466
I like how that fits
all the way across the top.

503
00:21:20,533 --> 00:21:23,700
So I'm just gonna keep
using it all the way down this.

504
00:21:25,766 --> 00:21:27,033
And then...

505
00:21:29,766 --> 00:21:31,700
[ Nail gun firing ]
Okay.

506
00:21:31,766 --> 00:21:33,900
Kevin:
Nice reveal all the way around.

507
00:21:33,966 --> 00:21:35,333
Noah: Yeah.

508
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,100
So the last thing I like to do

509
00:21:37,166 --> 00:21:42,500
is throw one screw, full length,
into our hinge.

510
00:21:43,066 --> 00:21:44,900
Kevin: That is what's pinning
that side

511
00:21:44,966 --> 00:21:47,433
of the jamb to your structure.
Noah: Yeah.

512
00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:48,933
Kevin:
The rough opening over there.

513
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,566
But none of this side of the
jamb is pinned to the structure.

514
00:21:51,633 --> 00:21:52,966
How do you feel about that?

515
00:21:53,033 --> 00:21:54,700
Noah: It's fine. It's floating.

516
00:21:54,766 --> 00:21:58,300
And what keeps it in place
is the casing.

517
00:21:58,366 --> 00:22:02,600
So we'll have probably 10 --
or 5 nails on this side

518
00:22:02,666 --> 00:22:04,433
and five nails on this side

519
00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:07,066
holding the jamb to the casing,

520
00:22:07,133 --> 00:22:10,133
and then 10 nails holding it
to the framing.

521
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,300
So between all that,
this jamb isn't going anywhere.

522
00:22:13,366 --> 00:22:14,366
Kevin: Locked it in.

523
00:22:14,433 --> 00:22:15,766
So I have not hung
a door this way.

524
00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:17,133
So this is interesting.

525
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,733
Had I not been here,
it would have been --

526
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,566
This would be the way
you do it by yourself,

527
00:22:20,633 --> 00:22:22,633
to get rid of all
that fussiness from either side

528
00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:24,066
with shims and all that?
Noah: That's right.

529
00:22:24,133 --> 00:22:26,166
Kevin: It's on the list.
All right. Thank you, Noah.

530
00:22:26,233 --> 00:22:29,133
Well, that's it for us down here
in Western North Carolina.

531
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,900
So until next time,
I'm Kevin O'Connor.

532
00:22:30,966 --> 00:22:33,266
Noah: I'm Noah Swaty.
Kevin: For "This Old House."

533
00:22:33,333 --> 00:22:36,100
I am gonna have to report
back to my people about this.

534
00:22:36,166 --> 00:22:37,300
Noah: Okay. Do it.

535
00:22:37,366 --> 00:22:40,333
♪♪

536
00:22:41,766 --> 00:22:43,933
Kevin:
Next time on "This Old House"...

537
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,166
So we're in downtown Asheville,
also known as Beer City,

538
00:22:46,233 --> 00:22:49,233
and we couldn't resist
coming to a brewery.

539
00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,200
Cheers.
Man: Cheers.

540
00:22:51,266 --> 00:22:53,633
Tom: So I hear you are measuring
for some shades.

541
00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:57,400
Woman: Yes, we're looking at
an inside-mount blackout shade.

542
00:22:57,466 --> 00:22:59,300
Oh, it looks so good.

543
00:22:59,366 --> 00:23:01,133
Kevin:
How do we get this prepped

544
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,966
so it's gonna look as nice
as the house across the street?

545
00:23:03,033 --> 00:23:04,766
Mauro: That house looks great.
This is gonna look better.

546
00:23:04,833 --> 00:23:06,100
[ Both laugh ]

547
00:23:06,166 --> 00:23:07,533
Game on!
Kevin: All right.

548
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,633
♪♪

549
00:23:08,700 --> 00:23:10,433
That's next time.