1 00:00:00,667 --> 00:00:02,602 Kevin: Today on "This Old House"... 2 00:00:02,669 --> 00:00:04,104 Hey there, I'm Kevin O'Connor, 3 00:00:04,170 --> 00:00:07,073 and welcome to a brand-new episode of "This Old House," 4 00:00:07,140 --> 00:00:11,611 where we start a new project here in Glen Ridge, New Jersey. 5 00:00:11,678 --> 00:00:14,214 And my chauffeur has just arrived. 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:20,120 ♪♪ 7 00:00:20,186 --> 00:00:26,059 ♪♪ 8 00:00:26,126 --> 00:00:28,161 Man: Ahh, that's it. 9 00:00:28,228 --> 00:00:36,803 ♪♪ 10 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:44,544 ♪♪ 11 00:00:45,912 --> 00:00:48,148 Kevin: Hey, pops. How are you? 12 00:00:48,214 --> 00:00:49,649 Tom: I'm good, sonny. How are you doing? 13 00:00:49,716 --> 00:00:51,084 Kevin: I'm doing all right. Thank you for picking me up. 14 00:00:51,151 --> 00:00:53,486 Tom: My pleasure. I got to say, this is quite a town. 15 00:00:53,553 --> 00:00:55,355 Kevin: You like it? Yeah. Tom: Love it. 16 00:00:55,422 --> 00:00:57,090 Kevin: This is a terrific town. Glen Ridge. It's beautiful. 17 00:00:57,157 --> 00:00:58,858 And one of the things about this town 18 00:00:58,925 --> 00:01:00,994 is it's got the commuter line, right? 19 00:01:01,060 --> 00:01:02,462 And so you can get all across Jersey, 20 00:01:02,529 --> 00:01:04,497 but you can get to Manhattan from here, which is nice. 21 00:01:04,564 --> 00:01:06,466 And so you've seen the plans of the house, right? 22 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:08,735 Tom: I have. This is a big job. 23 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:10,136 A lot of, uh -- 24 00:01:10,203 --> 00:01:11,471 well, we're gonna demo the whole place, it looks like, 25 00:01:11,538 --> 00:01:13,306 and they're gonna find some old bones in there 26 00:01:13,373 --> 00:01:15,575 that might need some reconstructing. 27 00:01:15,642 --> 00:01:17,043 Kevin: Well, we're gonna find out. 28 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:18,745 And we've got a new contractor we're working with. 29 00:01:18,812 --> 00:01:21,281 I hope you like him. Um, he's a really good kid. 30 00:01:21,347 --> 00:01:22,782 I've known him for years. Tom: Oh. You have? 31 00:01:22,849 --> 00:01:24,317 Kevin: Yeah. We met way back when. 32 00:01:24,384 --> 00:01:26,319 Just kind of stayed in touch. But, you know, he's a young kid. 33 00:01:26,386 --> 00:01:27,687 He always wanted to be a contractor. 34 00:01:27,754 --> 00:01:30,623 He does beautiful work. Tom: I got to break him in. 35 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:34,093 You don't have to break him in, okay? He's not that new. 36 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,062 What you do have to do, though, is step on it, 37 00:01:36,129 --> 00:01:38,164 because no one else has met him either. 38 00:01:38,231 --> 00:01:39,632 And I want to get to the job site, 39 00:01:39,699 --> 00:01:41,935 introduce Zack to Richard and Jenn. 40 00:01:42,001 --> 00:01:43,937 I don't need them getting there before us. Tom: I'll step on. 41 00:01:44,003 --> 00:01:45,605 Kevin: Yeah, the last thing I need is Richard 42 00:01:45,672 --> 00:01:47,874 giving him a hard time. Tom: Oh, gosh. [ Laughs ] 43 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:50,643 Jenn: Richard, this is a really beautiful neighborhood. Richard: It is. 44 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:53,179 Jenn: Hey, you got to move your van before your boss gets here. 45 00:01:53,246 --> 00:01:54,514 Richard: Yeah, we're meeting a Mr. Dettmore, 46 00:01:54,581 --> 00:01:56,382 and if you're going for coffee, I'll take a black. 47 00:01:56,449 --> 00:01:57,484 What do you want? Jenn: Black, please. 48 00:01:57,550 --> 00:01:58,885 Richard: All right. I'll pay. 49 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:00,220 Kevin: All right. 50 00:02:00,286 --> 00:02:02,822 So it looks like you guys already met Zack, huh? 51 00:02:02,889 --> 00:02:04,924 Hey, Tommy. This is Zack. Zack Dettmore. 52 00:02:04,991 --> 00:02:06,392 Zack: Nice to see you, Kevin. 53 00:02:06,459 --> 00:02:08,094 Kevin: Good to see you, brother. Say hello to Tommy Silva. 54 00:02:08,161 --> 00:02:09,762 Tom: Hey, Zack. Zack: Hey, Tommy. Nice to meet you. 55 00:02:09,829 --> 00:02:11,464 Sonny said some good things about you. 56 00:02:11,531 --> 00:02:12,832 Zack: I hope it's true. 57 00:02:12,899 --> 00:02:14,400 Kevin: Jenn Nawada. Richard Trethewey. 58 00:02:14,467 --> 00:02:16,636 Zack: Oh! Nice to meet you. Jenn: Nice to meet you. 59 00:02:16,703 --> 00:02:18,171 Jenn: Yeah. Kevin: Did you guys not... 60 00:02:18,238 --> 00:02:20,206 Did you -- what... Richard: I didn't know. 61 00:02:20,273 --> 00:02:22,275 Zack: We met. Richard: I was expecting an older guy. 62 00:02:22,342 --> 00:02:23,476 Kevin: Good. I'm glad. All right. 63 00:02:23,543 --> 00:02:24,878 Well, now that we've all met, 64 00:02:24,944 --> 00:02:26,613 we need to meet the homeowners and check out the house. 65 00:02:26,679 --> 00:02:28,147 So, what do you say? Split up, divide and conquer? 66 00:02:28,214 --> 00:02:29,482 Jenn: Let's do it. Kevin: Let's do it. 67 00:02:29,549 --> 00:02:30,717 Hey, would you guys grab some coffees? 68 00:02:30,783 --> 00:02:33,052 Tom: Black decaf. Kevin: And get Zack one. 69 00:02:33,119 --> 00:02:35,522 Richard: Okay, I'll get it. I'll buy. 70 00:02:35,588 --> 00:02:37,156 Kevin: Hey there. Sunita: Hey! 71 00:02:37,223 --> 00:02:38,591 Kevin: You must be Sunita. Sunita: Welcome. Sunita. 72 00:02:38,658 --> 00:02:40,226 Kevin: Thank you. Nice to meet you. 73 00:02:40,293 --> 00:02:41,561 Tom: How are you? Nice to see you. Sunita: Nice to Meet you. 74 00:02:41,628 --> 00:02:42,962 Kevin: Oh, the whole gang is here. 75 00:02:43,029 --> 00:02:46,699 Sunita: I'll introduce you to my husband, Shankar. 76 00:02:46,766 --> 00:02:50,503 Asha is our daughter. And her husband, Jason. 77 00:02:50,570 --> 00:02:52,972 Kevin: Nice to meet you all. Thanks for having us. 78 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:54,774 Sunita: Likewise. Kevin: So we love the neighborhood. 79 00:02:54,841 --> 00:02:56,242 Yeah, we're glad to be here. 80 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:58,411 And everything we've seen so far outside is terrific. 81 00:02:58,478 --> 00:03:00,313 Sunita: Oh, we love our neighborhood. 82 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:02,081 Tom: Man, this is a great old house. 83 00:03:02,148 --> 00:03:06,553 Sunita: We've been here 27 years and looking forward to another, 84 00:03:06,619 --> 00:03:08,187 hopefully, 27 years. 85 00:03:08,254 --> 00:03:09,822 Kevin: So tell us the plan. 86 00:03:09,889 --> 00:03:11,691 Shankar: The plan is the time has come. 87 00:03:11,758 --> 00:03:13,259 It has outlived its purpose. 88 00:03:13,326 --> 00:03:16,863 We want to make it functional going forward. 89 00:03:16,930 --> 00:03:20,133 And so not only for us 90 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:23,836 but for this -- our daughter's generation as well. 91 00:03:23,903 --> 00:03:26,072 Kevin: Yeah, because you guys are going to move in, right? 92 00:03:26,139 --> 00:03:28,041 Yeah, so the whole idea is we're gonna make it 93 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:29,943 a multigenerational home. 94 00:03:30,009 --> 00:03:32,645 So the first floor is gonna be a shared living space, 95 00:03:32,712 --> 00:03:35,048 shared kitchen, family room, TV room. 96 00:03:35,114 --> 00:03:37,350 And then the second floor will be mostly 97 00:03:37,417 --> 00:03:40,820 where, uh, our bedrooms are, bathroom there. 98 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:43,690 And then the third floor will be where my parents stay. 99 00:03:43,756 --> 00:03:46,159 So shared and personal private spaces. 100 00:03:46,225 --> 00:03:48,294 Kevin: Right. Wow. A little unconventional. 101 00:03:48,361 --> 00:03:49,629 I mean, sometimes the parents downsize 102 00:03:49,696 --> 00:03:50,797 and move to a smaller house. 103 00:03:50,863 --> 00:03:52,131 Sometimes the kids buy 104 00:03:52,198 --> 00:03:54,667 a small starter house in the neighborhood. 105 00:03:54,734 --> 00:03:55,969 But why are you guys doing this? 106 00:03:56,035 --> 00:03:57,203 Jason: Well, we love the neighborhood. 107 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:59,339 Um, and we want to raise a family here. 108 00:03:59,405 --> 00:04:01,708 And we also want to be close to her parents. 109 00:04:01,774 --> 00:04:04,744 So it just made sense for us to, you know, 110 00:04:04,811 --> 00:04:09,382 work with them to turn this into a multigenerational home. 111 00:04:09,449 --> 00:04:11,684 Kevin: All right, I guess that means some tours are in order. 112 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:13,086 Asha: All right, Tommy, I'll show you upstairs. 113 00:04:13,152 --> 00:04:14,887 Tom: I'd love to see it. Lead the way. 114 00:04:14,954 --> 00:04:17,390 Jason: While they're going up, I'm gonna go out back and meet Jenn. 115 00:04:17,457 --> 00:04:20,727 Kevin: Awesome. Sunita: And we'll take you to the first floor. 116 00:04:20,793 --> 00:04:22,428 Kevin: Before we go anywhere, though -- 117 00:04:22,495 --> 00:04:24,030 Your foyer, I love it. 118 00:04:24,097 --> 00:04:27,100 I mean, it's dated a little bit, but it's a nice big space. 119 00:04:27,166 --> 00:04:30,203 Sunita: It is. It's a great entranceway into our home, 120 00:04:30,269 --> 00:04:31,571 and we really like it, 121 00:04:31,638 --> 00:04:33,506 but it doesn't have a functional closet 122 00:04:33,573 --> 00:04:34,874 so that when people come in, 123 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:37,143 there's nowhere to hang your coats. 124 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:39,045 And you can see the coat rack in there. 125 00:04:39,112 --> 00:04:42,215 So we'd like to build a closet in the front. 126 00:04:42,281 --> 00:04:44,550 Kevin: Instead of the fireplace? Sunita: Yeah. 127 00:04:44,617 --> 00:04:49,756 Well, the fireplace, it's crumbling quite a bit. 128 00:04:49,822 --> 00:04:51,658 Um, and... Kevin: And you don't use it. 129 00:04:51,724 --> 00:04:53,192 Sunita: And we don't use it. 130 00:04:53,259 --> 00:04:54,927 Kevin: Okay. And then what? Sunita: Living room. 131 00:04:54,994 --> 00:04:57,130 Kevin: Oh, wow. Look at this room. 132 00:04:57,196 --> 00:04:58,898 It's gigantic. 133 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:00,700 It's like a big double parlor. Sunita: It is. 134 00:05:00,767 --> 00:05:03,870 Shankar: But this, we feel that it's too big, really. 135 00:05:03,936 --> 00:05:05,204 Kevin: Formal living room that's never used. 136 00:05:05,271 --> 00:05:07,540 We hear it a lot. It's got a nice fireplace. 137 00:05:07,607 --> 00:05:09,776 I presume this is the backside of the one that's in the foyer. 138 00:05:09,842 --> 00:05:12,578 So this goes away too? Sunita: Yes, that's exactly right. 139 00:05:12,645 --> 00:05:16,049 And what we're going to do, actually, is build -- 140 00:05:16,115 --> 00:05:19,585 uh, put a wall in between these two rooms 141 00:05:19,652 --> 00:05:22,088 with large pocket doors on both sides. 142 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:23,656 Kevin: Here and there. 143 00:05:23,723 --> 00:05:25,191 Sunita: And then we'll use this, for now, 144 00:05:25,258 --> 00:05:27,927 as a formal sitting room. 145 00:05:27,994 --> 00:05:30,496 But in the event that we can't get downstairs -- 146 00:05:30,563 --> 00:05:34,934 get upstairs to the third floor, we have a space downstairs 147 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:37,937 that'll be, uh, very convenient for both of us. 148 00:05:38,004 --> 00:05:39,872 Kevin: Honestly, I love to hear that, 149 00:05:39,939 --> 00:05:41,908 'cause when I hear we're aging in place on the third floor, 150 00:05:41,974 --> 00:05:43,376 I think, "Ooh." 151 00:05:43,443 --> 00:05:44,544 So this is a good option to have. 152 00:05:44,610 --> 00:05:45,878 Sunita: This is a good option. 153 00:05:45,945 --> 00:05:47,146 Kevin: And then this room becomes what 154 00:05:47,213 --> 00:05:48,247 when you divide it off? 155 00:05:48,314 --> 00:05:49,782 Sunita: Our family room. Kevin: Okay. 156 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:53,686 And when you say family room, Sunita, is this a shared space? 157 00:05:53,753 --> 00:05:55,888 Sunita: Yes, this will be a shared space. 158 00:05:55,955 --> 00:05:57,457 Kevin: Terrific. Okay. 159 00:05:57,523 --> 00:05:59,358 So it's a little bit more intimate. 160 00:05:59,425 --> 00:06:01,327 Sunita: Yeah. Kevin: It's not quite as formal. 161 00:06:01,394 --> 00:06:02,562 Sunita: No, it won't be. 162 00:06:02,628 --> 00:06:04,864 We'll have the TV in here on this wall, 163 00:06:04,931 --> 00:06:07,767 and this wall actually comes down. 164 00:06:07,834 --> 00:06:09,202 What we learned is that 165 00:06:09,268 --> 00:06:12,038 there's a chimney right behind that wall. 166 00:06:12,105 --> 00:06:13,406 Kevin: They're all over the place in these houses. 167 00:06:13,473 --> 00:06:14,707 Sunita: They're all over the place. 168 00:06:14,774 --> 00:06:16,109 And so we're gonna take this down 169 00:06:16,175 --> 00:06:18,711 and open it up into the kitchen. 170 00:06:18,778 --> 00:06:20,646 Kevin: Which is just on the other side? 171 00:06:20,713 --> 00:06:22,648 Can we have a look? Sunita: Yeah. 172 00:06:22,715 --> 00:06:24,784 Kevin: You guys like your wallpaper. 173 00:06:24,851 --> 00:06:26,385 Sunita: Oh, it's a little dated. 174 00:06:26,452 --> 00:06:29,555 Kevin: Ah, the kitchen. Okay. Bit dated too, right? 175 00:06:29,622 --> 00:06:31,057 Sunita: Yeah, it is. 176 00:06:31,124 --> 00:06:34,660 Shankar: Yeah, but it has outlived its purpose as well. 177 00:06:34,727 --> 00:06:38,030 You could tell looking all around 178 00:06:38,097 --> 00:06:40,833 it's kind of an enclosed feel that you get. 179 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:42,869 There's no -- hardly any window. 180 00:06:42,935 --> 00:06:44,103 Kevin: Yeah, one. That's it. 181 00:06:44,170 --> 00:06:45,905 Shankar: There's only one. You know? 182 00:06:45,972 --> 00:06:49,408 But that side is all enclosed, you know, 183 00:06:49,475 --> 00:06:51,043 so we want to open it up. 184 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:52,812 Kevin: By taking this wall down. Shankar: Exactly. 185 00:06:52,879 --> 00:06:56,415 Sunita: Right, and it'll be all open from the fam-- 186 00:06:56,482 --> 00:06:59,886 from the living room into the kitchen. 187 00:06:59,952 --> 00:07:01,254 Kevin: And then back here, as you say... 188 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,891 Sunita: Is a more intimate area for a breakfast nook 189 00:07:04,957 --> 00:07:06,559 and even a family gathering. 190 00:07:06,626 --> 00:07:07,994 Kevin: And I presume more windows? 191 00:07:08,060 --> 00:07:10,363 Sunita: And more windows along the back. Yep. 192 00:07:10,429 --> 00:07:13,299 And then we're gonna open this up into the mud room 193 00:07:13,366 --> 00:07:16,435 so there's more space to be able to put on your shoes. 194 00:07:16,502 --> 00:07:18,838 Kevin: So when this wall comes down, 195 00:07:18,905 --> 00:07:20,273 what are we converting? 196 00:07:20,339 --> 00:07:22,208 Sunita: Okay. Kevin: What is this in here? 197 00:07:22,275 --> 00:07:24,510 Well, this is a delightful little room. 198 00:07:24,577 --> 00:07:26,746 Sunita: So what we're going to do 199 00:07:26,813 --> 00:07:29,916 is have along this wall cabinets, 200 00:07:29,982 --> 00:07:32,218 with our kitchen sink here. 201 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:33,452 Kevin: Right. 202 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:35,488 Sunita: And farther down we're going to have 203 00:07:35,555 --> 00:07:37,190 our induction stove. 204 00:07:37,256 --> 00:07:38,457 Kevin: Okay. 205 00:07:38,524 --> 00:07:40,726 Sunita: And on this side what we're gonna have 206 00:07:40,793 --> 00:07:42,094 is a peninsula. 207 00:07:42,161 --> 00:07:43,729 Kevin: Oh, looking out onto the new open space. 208 00:07:43,796 --> 00:07:45,498 Sunita: Into the new open space 209 00:07:45,565 --> 00:07:49,735 so that there's a lot of space for everyone to sit and talk. 210 00:07:49,802 --> 00:07:50,937 Shankar: This used to be my mother's room... 211 00:07:51,003 --> 00:07:52,138 Kevin: Oh! 212 00:07:52,205 --> 00:07:53,739 Shankar: ...when she used to live with us. 213 00:07:53,806 --> 00:07:56,042 Kevin: With you and your children were here? Shankar: Yes. 214 00:07:56,108 --> 00:07:58,177 Kevin: So this is not the first multigenerational trip for you. 215 00:07:58,244 --> 00:08:00,012 How did that go? Shankar: It went really well. 216 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:01,247 Sunita: It was great. 217 00:08:01,314 --> 00:08:02,348 Shankar: Our kids, you know, 218 00:08:02,415 --> 00:08:04,517 they took care of my mother. 219 00:08:04,584 --> 00:08:09,622 And maybe that learning kind of, you know, got ingrained in them. 220 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:13,359 And part of the reason, I think -- or we think -- 221 00:08:13,426 --> 00:08:16,262 that Asha wants to move with us, 222 00:08:16,329 --> 00:08:21,734 is to have that ingrained desire to take care of us when we age. 223 00:08:21,801 --> 00:08:23,135 Kevin: Good for you. That's awesome. 224 00:08:23,202 --> 00:08:24,837 I'm making notes. [ Laughter ] 225 00:08:24,904 --> 00:08:26,439 Mom and Dad, you can't move in. 226 00:08:26,505 --> 00:08:29,308 All right, uh, and then over here? 227 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:32,378 Sunita: Okay, so this wall actually comes out 228 00:08:32,445 --> 00:08:34,413 into a dining room. 229 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,815 Kevin: Let's have a look over there. 230 00:08:35,882 --> 00:08:39,752 Oh, okay. Formal dining room as well. 231 00:08:39,819 --> 00:08:41,420 Does it get use? 232 00:08:41,487 --> 00:08:43,689 Shankar: Yes, we use it when we have, you know, 233 00:08:43,756 --> 00:08:45,258 friends, visitors, guests. 234 00:08:45,324 --> 00:08:47,627 When you have a big gathering, family, 235 00:08:47,693 --> 00:08:50,296 this is the dining room we use. 236 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:52,298 Kevin: And so if that wall comes down, 237 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:54,033 does it stay a formal dining room? 238 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:55,701 Sunita: It actually will stay a dining room, 239 00:08:55,768 --> 00:08:58,804 but it will be more connected with the rest of the kitchen 240 00:08:58,871 --> 00:09:01,173 and the rest of the house so there's more flow 241 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,075 and it'll probably get a lot more use... 242 00:09:03,142 --> 00:09:04,343 Kevin: Probably. 243 00:09:04,410 --> 00:09:06,312 Sunita: ...because it's not so separated 244 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:08,047 from the rest of the house. 245 00:09:08,114 --> 00:09:09,415 Kevin: Okay, a lot of walls coming down. 246 00:09:09,482 --> 00:09:11,384 So opening it up, and as you say, 247 00:09:11,450 --> 00:09:13,085 making it sort of more contemporary, 248 00:09:13,152 --> 00:09:15,187 giving it new life for the new way you're gonna use the house. 249 00:09:15,254 --> 00:09:16,589 Sunita: Right. Shankar: Absolutely. 250 00:09:16,656 --> 00:09:18,357 Kevin: Beautiful. Great bones, and you got great space. 251 00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:19,859 Sunita: Thank you. Shankar: Thank you. 252 00:09:19,926 --> 00:09:22,361 Asha: All right, Tommy, let me show you the second floor. 253 00:09:22,428 --> 00:09:23,696 Tom: Okay. 254 00:09:23,763 --> 00:09:26,565 Asha: So, currently we have three bedrooms -- 255 00:09:26,632 --> 00:09:28,267 my brother's existing room, 256 00:09:28,334 --> 00:09:31,003 my current bedroom in this corner. 257 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:32,371 Tom: Okay. That's a big bedroom. 258 00:09:32,438 --> 00:09:33,673 Asha: It's pretty big. It's nice. 259 00:09:33,739 --> 00:09:36,142 Um, and then the primary suite on this side. 260 00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:38,277 Tom: Okay. So this is your parents' place here? 261 00:09:38,344 --> 00:09:39,378 Asha: Yes. Tom: Oh, yeah. Good. 262 00:09:39,445 --> 00:09:41,881 Two big rooms. Nice. And a bathroom. 263 00:09:41,948 --> 00:09:43,816 Asha: And a bathroom. Tom: All right. 264 00:09:43,883 --> 00:09:45,818 Asha: And then for the third floor, 265 00:09:45,885 --> 00:09:47,420 which is where my parents are staying, 266 00:09:47,486 --> 00:09:49,555 this is the current staircase. 267 00:09:49,622 --> 00:09:51,857 Tom: Oh, yeah. You don't use that space up there much, do you? 268 00:09:51,924 --> 00:09:54,026 Asha: Not too much. Um, it's mostly storage. 269 00:09:54,093 --> 00:09:56,929 There is a bedroom up there, but it needs some work. 270 00:09:56,996 --> 00:09:58,664 Tom: Okay. So what's happening here? 271 00:09:58,731 --> 00:10:01,033 Asha: So this staircase is actually moving 272 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:02,435 into this area over here. 273 00:10:02,501 --> 00:10:05,771 Tom: All right, so the stairway that's over there 274 00:10:05,838 --> 00:10:07,173 is actually gonna come in here, 275 00:10:07,239 --> 00:10:08,774 and it's gonna go up like that. 276 00:10:08,841 --> 00:10:10,676 So you're really gonna lose a lot of this room. 277 00:10:10,743 --> 00:10:12,511 Asha: Exactly. Tom: It's gonna be a hallway, like? 278 00:10:12,578 --> 00:10:14,213 Asha: It'll be a lot more like a hallway. 279 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,548 And it'll be much more accessible 280 00:10:15,614 --> 00:10:16,615 to get to the third floor. 281 00:10:16,682 --> 00:10:17,683 Yeah, that's true. That's true. 282 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:19,385 And so actually, 283 00:10:19,452 --> 00:10:22,054 the, uh, new entrance to the corner room, 284 00:10:22,121 --> 00:10:24,557 my original room, will be right here. 285 00:10:24,623 --> 00:10:26,092 Tom: Oh, good, so you come down the hallway, 286 00:10:26,158 --> 00:10:27,526 you can go into that room there, 287 00:10:27,593 --> 00:10:28,928 up the stairway, or to your bedroom. 288 00:10:28,995 --> 00:10:30,396 Asha: Exactly. Tom: Nice. 289 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,164 Asha: And so I'll show you into the primary suite here. 290 00:10:32,231 --> 00:10:34,166 Tom: All right. Lead the way. 291 00:10:37,403 --> 00:10:40,306 Asha: So this is a great room. We're gonna make it even bigger. 292 00:10:40,373 --> 00:10:43,342 So right here, the wall stops, 293 00:10:43,409 --> 00:10:45,745 but we're actually gonna extend it all the way over. 294 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:47,146 Tom: All the way over to the gutter? 295 00:10:47,213 --> 00:10:48,481 Asha: Yes, exactly. Tom: Whoa, that's quite a way. 296 00:10:48,547 --> 00:10:50,950 Asha: So that way, and then we're also extending it 297 00:10:51,017 --> 00:10:52,852 all the way to the end of the roof that way. 298 00:10:52,918 --> 00:10:54,887 Tom: Wow. That's gonna make this room huge. 299 00:10:54,954 --> 00:10:57,323 Asha: Yeah. So it's gonna be our primary suite. 300 00:10:57,390 --> 00:11:00,793 So, bedroom, closet, bathroom. 301 00:11:00,860 --> 00:11:02,895 And this area here will be the office. 302 00:11:02,962 --> 00:11:05,164 Tom: Oh, so now this is really nice space. 303 00:11:05,231 --> 00:11:08,467 Divided up nice. All right. This is gonna be great. 304 00:11:08,534 --> 00:11:10,736 Well, I want to see what you're gonna do with your old bedroom. 305 00:11:10,803 --> 00:11:13,039 The big one. [ Chuckles ] Asha: Let's go. 306 00:11:13,105 --> 00:11:15,441 Tom: All right. 307 00:11:15,508 --> 00:11:17,510 So is this door closing up? 308 00:11:17,576 --> 00:11:19,345 Because I know there's a new door going in down there. 309 00:11:19,412 --> 00:11:21,113 Asha: Exactly, so the entrance to this room 310 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:23,349 will be in this corner here. 311 00:11:23,416 --> 00:11:24,884 Tom: Okay, great. Asha: Yep. 312 00:11:24,950 --> 00:11:29,055 So the entrance here, and then the fireplace is coming out. 313 00:11:29,121 --> 00:11:30,890 So since we'll have the space there, 314 00:11:30,956 --> 00:11:32,091 the closet is gonna go there. 315 00:11:32,158 --> 00:11:34,060 Tom: All right, so this doorway goes. 316 00:11:34,126 --> 00:11:35,661 And then what happens out here? 317 00:11:35,728 --> 00:11:38,497 Asha: All right, so this main bathroom will go. 318 00:11:38,564 --> 00:11:40,866 And it's actually gonna go in a more central location 319 00:11:40,933 --> 00:11:43,202 of the floor which is actually right about here. 320 00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:45,171 Tom: All right, so the bathroom will go here. 321 00:11:45,237 --> 00:11:47,139 This will go away. 322 00:11:47,206 --> 00:11:49,308 And then what happens with the bathroom? 323 00:11:49,375 --> 00:11:50,776 Asha: So that bathroom will go, 324 00:11:50,843 --> 00:11:53,746 and then this room will extend into the space 325 00:11:53,813 --> 00:11:54,847 where the bathroom was. 326 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:56,315 Tom: All right, so this gets blocked up, 327 00:11:56,382 --> 00:11:58,717 a new wall gets put all the way across here. 328 00:11:58,784 --> 00:12:00,019 Asha: All the way across here. 329 00:12:00,086 --> 00:12:02,154 Tom: And a doorway to lead into this room where? 330 00:12:02,221 --> 00:12:03,522 Asha: Right about here. Tom: All right. 331 00:12:03,589 --> 00:12:05,724 And what happens with this wall? 332 00:12:05,791 --> 00:12:08,327 Asha: So this wall will go, and the end of this room 333 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,796 will be where the end of the bathroom currently is. 334 00:12:10,863 --> 00:12:12,331 Tom: Wow, that's gonna be a big bedroom. 335 00:12:12,398 --> 00:12:14,467 Asha: It's a big bedroom. Yep. Tom: All right. So now what? 336 00:12:14,533 --> 00:12:16,836 So when I come out of here, I've got a bathroom over here. 337 00:12:16,902 --> 00:12:18,671 And we're gonna lead into here. What's going on here? 338 00:12:18,737 --> 00:12:20,339 Asha: And then on the left side here 339 00:12:20,406 --> 00:12:22,274 we're gonna have a laundry room. 340 00:12:22,341 --> 00:12:24,877 Tom: Oh, yeah. A nice big laundry room. Asha: Right. 341 00:12:24,944 --> 00:12:26,345 Tom: And what happens with that bathroom? 342 00:12:26,412 --> 00:12:28,247 Asha: So this bathroom will go. 343 00:12:28,314 --> 00:12:30,549 This is actually gonna be an entranceway 344 00:12:30,616 --> 00:12:32,718 into the primary suite right here. 345 00:12:32,785 --> 00:12:34,086 Tom: Oh, there's a new suite there. 346 00:12:34,153 --> 00:12:35,321 Okay, I see. 347 00:12:35,387 --> 00:12:37,189 So you can come up the stairs, come around, 348 00:12:37,256 --> 00:12:38,724 go to the bathroom in there, 349 00:12:38,791 --> 00:12:40,092 and then come into your suite here. 350 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:41,393 Asha: Exactly. Tom: Very nice. 351 00:12:41,460 --> 00:12:42,962 Very nice. I like it. 352 00:12:43,028 --> 00:12:44,296 Asha: Yeah. Tom: A lot going on up here. 353 00:12:44,363 --> 00:12:46,065 Asha: A lot going on. Tom: Wow. 354 00:12:46,132 --> 00:12:51,370 ♪♪ 355 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:52,805 Kevin: Hey, Richard. Richard: Hi there. 356 00:12:52,872 --> 00:12:54,273 Kevin: You think you got it all figured out? 357 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:55,441 Richard: Yeah, a little history lesson. 358 00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:57,076 I mean, this building built in 1880. 359 00:12:57,143 --> 00:12:58,811 It's fun to sort of think about 360 00:12:58,878 --> 00:13:00,946 how it has been heated through all that time. 361 00:13:01,013 --> 00:13:03,816 It was heated then and now by steam. 362 00:13:03,883 --> 00:13:05,284 Kevin: Still? Wow. 363 00:13:05,351 --> 00:13:07,920 Richard: So this is a steam boiler, still operational. 364 00:13:07,987 --> 00:13:10,456 You can see the big piping right here. 365 00:13:10,523 --> 00:13:13,425 And what happens is the original boiler has water in it 366 00:13:13,492 --> 00:13:15,661 in the bottom, it would be heated up, 367 00:13:15,728 --> 00:13:17,229 turn that water to steam. 368 00:13:17,296 --> 00:13:19,231 It would go up through every single radiator 369 00:13:19,298 --> 00:13:21,934 throughout the building, heat the whole building. 370 00:13:22,001 --> 00:13:23,402 That steam would turn to water. 371 00:13:23,469 --> 00:13:26,138 It would fall back to be here and be reheated. 372 00:13:26,205 --> 00:13:29,275 Okay? And it's still in place. 373 00:13:29,341 --> 00:13:32,144 Except there's a little bit of evolution I want to talk about. 374 00:13:32,211 --> 00:13:33,512 The fuel choices have changed. 375 00:13:33,579 --> 00:13:35,447 This originally started as a coal bin. 376 00:13:35,514 --> 00:13:38,117 Coal chute right here. This would have been stacked. 377 00:13:38,184 --> 00:13:40,119 Somebody would have actually taken a shovel 378 00:13:40,186 --> 00:13:41,921 and stoked it into a burner right here 379 00:13:41,987 --> 00:13:43,055 that would have had a stoker. 380 00:13:43,122 --> 00:13:46,559 Now, probably in the late '40s, 381 00:13:46,625 --> 00:13:50,062 I can see here that they added an oil burner. 382 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:51,263 Oil was the magical new fuel 383 00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:52,264 'cause you didn't have to shovel. 384 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:53,365 Kevin: Yeah, right. 385 00:13:53,432 --> 00:13:54,600 Richard: So it was this quiet burner 386 00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:56,468 that sat inside the big old cast-iron boiler 387 00:13:56,535 --> 00:13:58,604 that used to be here, and it would just heat up. 388 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:00,673 And that was so automatic compared to having to shovel. 389 00:14:00,739 --> 00:14:02,274 Kevin: But it was still making steam. Richard: Absolutely. 390 00:14:02,341 --> 00:14:05,411 So it makes steam and fill up to the building. 391 00:14:05,477 --> 00:14:08,347 Okay, but then we had the fuel crunch in the late '70s, 392 00:14:08,414 --> 00:14:10,482 and I'm sure that it would have been, 393 00:14:10,549 --> 00:14:12,351 "How do I now -- I can't afford to heat 394 00:14:12,418 --> 00:14:13,719 this whole building anymore." 395 00:14:13,786 --> 00:14:16,488 And so what you can see right here 396 00:14:16,555 --> 00:14:18,057 is actually an interesting -- 397 00:14:18,123 --> 00:14:20,893 there's a heat exchanger down inside this boiler. 398 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,096 Now, it sits below the water line that's down at the bottom. 399 00:14:24,163 --> 00:14:27,866 And now they could heat the water and add a pump, 400 00:14:27,933 --> 00:14:30,703 and they could actually pipe it over to baseboard 401 00:14:30,769 --> 00:14:32,671 in that first-floor back room 402 00:14:32,738 --> 00:14:35,507 so that they could get this cocoon space. 403 00:14:35,574 --> 00:14:37,476 Kevin: So this is in addition to the steam. 404 00:14:37,543 --> 00:14:38,744 That's just a separate zone? 405 00:14:38,811 --> 00:14:40,112 Richard: Absolutely. 406 00:14:40,179 --> 00:14:42,381 It works as a heat exchanger off of the steam boiler. 407 00:14:42,448 --> 00:14:44,250 And the challenge is, what you want to do, 408 00:14:44,316 --> 00:14:46,952 is leave the steam off but leave the boiler hot enough 409 00:14:47,019 --> 00:14:48,554 to be able to heat that little space. 410 00:14:48,621 --> 00:14:49,922 Kevin: It's a big house. Richard: It is. 411 00:14:49,989 --> 00:14:52,191 And so that would give you a little cocoon space 412 00:14:52,258 --> 00:14:53,659 to be able to survive the winter. 413 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:55,461 And that's what everybody in these big houses 414 00:14:55,527 --> 00:14:56,528 really wanted to find a place. 415 00:14:56,595 --> 00:14:58,063 Kevin: Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. 416 00:14:58,130 --> 00:15:00,165 Richard: So then that fuel probably got too expensive. 417 00:15:00,232 --> 00:15:02,735 And then you can see that they switched to gas. 418 00:15:02,801 --> 00:15:05,004 So it was coal, oil, gas. 419 00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:07,239 I think this boiler ultimately got changed. 420 00:15:07,306 --> 00:15:08,440 And so it's this evolution. 421 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:09,642 How do you stay ahead of the cost 422 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:11,010 of trying to heat these buildings? 423 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:12,678 Kevin: So if we're still on steam primarily -- 424 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:14,280 I mean, that's still hot right there -- 425 00:15:14,346 --> 00:15:17,850 when I walk in and I see what looks like condensate lines, 426 00:15:17,916 --> 00:15:19,685 did they just add air conditioning at some point? 427 00:15:19,752 --> 00:15:21,020 Richard: Yeah, it was more of this evolution 428 00:15:21,086 --> 00:15:23,088 of trying to find comfort in these big buildings. 429 00:15:23,155 --> 00:15:24,623 This has condensers outside, 430 00:15:24,690 --> 00:15:26,725 really efficient heat pump condensers. 431 00:15:26,792 --> 00:15:29,295 And they come into these distribution boxes. 432 00:15:29,361 --> 00:15:31,730 And this goes out to individual 433 00:15:31,797 --> 00:15:33,632 wall cassettes or high wall cassettes 434 00:15:33,699 --> 00:15:36,402 and that provide you zoned heating. 435 00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:37,736 But more importantly for people 436 00:15:37,803 --> 00:15:39,505 that want to live in the building, cooling as well. 437 00:15:39,571 --> 00:15:41,307 Again, trying to find this cocoon living 438 00:15:41,373 --> 00:15:42,641 in these bigger houses. 439 00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:44,176 Kevin: All right, so a whole bunch of changes 440 00:15:44,243 --> 00:15:46,812 over the last 130, 140 years. 441 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:49,748 My question is, what's next for the next 100 years? 442 00:15:49,815 --> 00:15:51,483 Richard: This is a steam system that some of these pipes 443 00:15:51,550 --> 00:15:53,752 have been in for more than 100 years. 444 00:15:53,819 --> 00:15:56,221 This is the opportunity in the building's history 445 00:15:56,288 --> 00:15:57,523 to say let's do it again. 446 00:15:57,589 --> 00:15:58,824 Let's start again from scratch. 447 00:15:58,891 --> 00:16:00,059 We're doing a full gut rehab here, 448 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:01,493 so we'll probably look at heat pumps 449 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,996 and really zoning this system, making it tight 450 00:16:04,063 --> 00:16:05,664 and then really zoning the system properly. 451 00:16:05,731 --> 00:16:06,999 Kevin: Well, I know that Zack and the homeowners 452 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:08,200 are gonna appreciate your input on it. 453 00:16:08,267 --> 00:16:09,301 Richard: All right. Kevin: Thank you. 454 00:16:09,368 --> 00:16:11,003 Love the history lessons. 455 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:19,445 ♪♪ 456 00:16:19,511 --> 00:16:21,647 Jason: Hi, Jenn. Jenn: Hey, Jason. How are you? 457 00:16:21,714 --> 00:16:23,515 Jason: I'm great. How are you? Jenn: I'm good. 458 00:16:23,582 --> 00:16:25,250 I'm just walking around your property, 459 00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:27,820 tagging things to stay and to go. 460 00:16:27,886 --> 00:16:30,255 Meaning, there's definitely plants around the foundation 461 00:16:30,322 --> 00:16:31,657 that need to come out. 462 00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:33,726 And this dogwood is not one of them. 463 00:16:33,792 --> 00:16:35,227 What I think -- 464 00:16:35,294 --> 00:16:38,130 I mean, it's such a cool corridor going to your backyard. 465 00:16:38,197 --> 00:16:39,498 I think they need to be kept, 466 00:16:39,565 --> 00:16:41,734 but they need to be pruned off the house, right? 467 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,736 And then we just reshape them and then 468 00:16:43,802 --> 00:16:45,771 they could just continue growing in their fashion. 469 00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:47,106 Jason: Sounds good. We love that. 470 00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:48,507 Jenn: Awesome. I love it too. 471 00:16:48,574 --> 00:16:51,443 This Japanese holly anchors this end of the house. 472 00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:52,644 I think it should stay. 473 00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:54,179 It just needs to be protected 474 00:16:54,246 --> 00:16:57,349 when all the workers are flying around, right? 475 00:16:57,416 --> 00:16:59,351 The front foundation, 476 00:16:59,418 --> 00:17:01,153 all of these plants have seen a better day. 477 00:17:01,220 --> 00:17:02,488 They've outgrown their space. 478 00:17:02,554 --> 00:17:04,323 Jason: Right. Jenn: What do you think? 479 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:05,691 Jason: Yeah, we could see them go. 480 00:17:05,758 --> 00:17:06,992 Jenn: Okay, because it's gonna -- 481 00:17:07,059 --> 00:17:08,494 It's gonna let everything breathe 482 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,863 and it'll be refreshed and cleaned. 483 00:17:10,929 --> 00:17:12,998 And what's your take on these hollies? 484 00:17:13,065 --> 00:17:14,767 Jason: Well, as you notice, 485 00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:16,568 we can't see the street from here. 486 00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:18,203 It blocks the front door. 487 00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:19,505 And we'd really like to be able 488 00:17:19,571 --> 00:17:21,006 to see out into the front yard. 489 00:17:21,073 --> 00:17:22,541 Jenn: Just to open it up. Jason: Yes. 490 00:17:22,608 --> 00:17:24,710 Jenn: Especially if everything's gonna be new, 491 00:17:24,777 --> 00:17:28,547 it's going to be showcasing a beautiful new area. 492 00:17:28,614 --> 00:17:29,915 I mean, over here you have 493 00:17:29,982 --> 00:17:32,484 so many beautiful trees on your property. 494 00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:36,321 This Japanese maple is spectacular. 495 00:17:36,388 --> 00:17:38,557 The shape -- it's just -- it's so beautiful. 496 00:17:38,624 --> 00:17:41,093 So this is all staying, in my opinion. 497 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,327 Jason: I agree. 498 00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:43,495 And you should see this in the fall. 499 00:17:43,562 --> 00:17:44,663 Jenn: Oh, I'm sure it's a showcase. 500 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:46,498 Like the brilliant fall colors. 501 00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:48,634 One more question. What about the front walkway? 502 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:50,769 Jason: Well, you know, now that you bring it up, 503 00:17:50,836 --> 00:17:53,238 the concrete we're not really sure 504 00:17:53,305 --> 00:17:54,640 we want to keep anymore. 505 00:17:54,706 --> 00:17:56,475 We're thinking that we'll go with brick 506 00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:59,111 because we think that it'll really be a nice accent 507 00:17:59,178 --> 00:18:00,646 to the entrance of our new home. 508 00:18:00,712 --> 00:18:04,116 Jenn: Just changing the material will change everything, right? 509 00:18:04,183 --> 00:18:05,784 It'll be so inviting. 510 00:18:05,851 --> 00:18:07,286 You get rid of the hollies in the front, 511 00:18:07,352 --> 00:18:09,188 and then you have a whole new entryway. 512 00:18:09,254 --> 00:18:10,622 Curb appeal. 513 00:18:10,689 --> 00:18:12,391 Jason: I like it. Jenn: All right. 514 00:18:15,527 --> 00:18:17,563 Tom: Zack, I like the house. What do you think? 515 00:18:17,629 --> 00:18:18,997 Zack: I'm pretty excited about this house. 516 00:18:19,064 --> 00:18:22,100 I think it's got good structure on the inside. 517 00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:24,002 The foundation seems good. 518 00:18:24,069 --> 00:18:25,370 What I'm a little concerned about 519 00:18:25,437 --> 00:18:27,206 is the exterior package on this house. 520 00:18:27,272 --> 00:18:29,808 Tom: Yeah, well, it's got the old asbestos siding on there. 521 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:31,477 Probably done in the '50s or '60s. 522 00:18:31,543 --> 00:18:33,378 And they put that on because people were tired 523 00:18:33,445 --> 00:18:35,714 of doing the maintenance of the wood. 524 00:18:35,781 --> 00:18:37,883 But you're gonna take that off, and then what? 525 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:39,318 Zack: Then we're basically going to 526 00:18:39,384 --> 00:18:40,686 take in all the historic details 527 00:18:40,752 --> 00:18:42,020 so we can re-create those, 528 00:18:42,087 --> 00:18:44,156 and we're gonna remove all of the exterior trim 529 00:18:44,223 --> 00:18:47,793 and clapboards and shakes so we can re-create that 530 00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:49,495 but with an airtight barrier 531 00:18:49,561 --> 00:18:50,896 around the exterior of the house. 532 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:53,065 Tom: Tighten it right up, make it just like new. 533 00:18:53,131 --> 00:18:54,900 That's great. Zack: Exactly. Better than new. 534 00:18:54,967 --> 00:18:56,535 Let me show you what we've got going on on the side. 535 00:18:56,602 --> 00:18:57,936 Tom: That sounds like fun stuff. 536 00:18:58,003 --> 00:18:59,304 Zack: I'm looking forward to this one. 537 00:18:59,371 --> 00:19:01,406 Tom: Yeah. This tree is a little tight to the house. 538 00:19:01,473 --> 00:19:02,975 What's the plan for that? 539 00:19:03,041 --> 00:19:05,043 Zack: Yeah, I'm actually gonna take this whole tree down, 540 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:06,545 give us some space to work. 541 00:19:06,612 --> 00:19:09,081 All this mechanical equipment is gonna be removed. 542 00:19:09,147 --> 00:19:10,315 We're gonna relocate that 543 00:19:10,382 --> 00:19:12,050 to the other side of the house as well. 544 00:19:12,117 --> 00:19:14,052 Tom: Nice. Well, what's the deal with the windows? 545 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,888 I noticed out back there was a window 546 00:19:15,954 --> 00:19:17,656 had some rotted casing. at one time. 547 00:19:17,723 --> 00:19:18,790 Somebody replaced it. 548 00:19:18,857 --> 00:19:21,793 It also looked like some bad peeling 549 00:19:21,860 --> 00:19:23,128 on the windowsills. 550 00:19:23,195 --> 00:19:24,730 Zack: Yeah, the windows are really in tough shape, 551 00:19:24,796 --> 00:19:27,065 so we're gonna go ahead and remove all of the windows, 552 00:19:27,132 --> 00:19:29,401 all of the trim around them, with more durable -- 553 00:19:29,468 --> 00:19:31,537 even though they are gonna be wood windows. 554 00:19:31,603 --> 00:19:33,639 And we're actually gonna put some skylights up there 555 00:19:33,705 --> 00:19:35,774 at that peak there to let more light 556 00:19:35,841 --> 00:19:37,709 into the new living space in the attic. 557 00:19:37,776 --> 00:19:38,810 Zack: So you're doing a new roof. 558 00:19:38,877 --> 00:19:40,279 What about that chimney up there? 559 00:19:40,345 --> 00:19:41,747 Is that is that coming off? Zack: Yeah. 560 00:19:41,813 --> 00:19:43,715 That chimney is actually gonna be completely removed. 561 00:19:43,782 --> 00:19:45,017 There's no need for it anymore. 562 00:19:45,083 --> 00:19:46,618 Tom: That'll give you some floor space inside. 563 00:19:46,685 --> 00:19:47,886 Zack: Yeah. Let me show you the front here. 564 00:19:47,953 --> 00:19:49,254 So the front of the house, 565 00:19:49,321 --> 00:19:51,523 you can see that sort of addition 566 00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:53,659 with the flat roof that's coming over the porch. 567 00:19:53,725 --> 00:19:56,662 We're gonna basically remove that in its entirety 568 00:19:56,728 --> 00:19:58,297 and extend a new second floor addition 569 00:19:58,363 --> 00:20:00,899 all the way to the edge of the porch 570 00:20:00,966 --> 00:20:02,501 and go all the way to the back of the house 571 00:20:02,568 --> 00:20:05,604 to add square footage to the whole second floor. 572 00:20:05,671 --> 00:20:08,140 We're gonna have to re-create that cove detail 573 00:20:08,206 --> 00:20:11,310 that runs just at the top of the second floor, 574 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:13,545 and that's something I'm a little bit concerned about, 575 00:20:13,612 --> 00:20:15,714 with the complexity, to re-create that. 576 00:20:15,781 --> 00:20:18,216 Tom: Yeah, that roll right there above the windows. 577 00:20:18,283 --> 00:20:20,619 If you look, you can actually see how that's done with 578 00:20:20,686 --> 00:20:24,056 probably some 2", 2 1/4" boards, might be tongue and groove. 579 00:20:24,122 --> 00:20:25,691 And they would roll those right around, 580 00:20:25,757 --> 00:20:27,593 probably on a wooden bracket that they put up there. 581 00:20:27,659 --> 00:20:29,061 Might be straight, 582 00:20:29,127 --> 00:20:31,196 but they would roll the boards right around it. 583 00:20:31,263 --> 00:20:33,165 So this gable end, I'm interested to see 584 00:20:33,231 --> 00:20:35,067 what happens when these shingles come off. 585 00:20:35,133 --> 00:20:37,903 The detail of the existing siding might be similar 586 00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:40,472 to that diamond detail over there. 587 00:20:40,539 --> 00:20:42,341 I wouldn't be surprised if it's up there. 588 00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:43,875 Zack: Yeah, it's funny you bring that up 589 00:20:43,942 --> 00:20:46,511 because the architect actually believes that these three houses 590 00:20:46,578 --> 00:20:48,680 were all built by the same builder, 591 00:20:48,747 --> 00:20:50,616 and he's assuming that there is a detail 592 00:20:50,682 --> 00:20:53,885 that's similar to those diamonds that lingers beneath that, 593 00:20:53,952 --> 00:20:56,121 and that's what the historic preservation 594 00:20:56,188 --> 00:20:57,856 actually approved the plans for. 595 00:20:57,923 --> 00:20:59,625 Let me show you the front porch. Tom: Okay. 596 00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:02,527 I love seeing these old porches 597 00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:04,229 still intact with the old decking. 598 00:21:04,296 --> 00:21:07,065 You can see how the decking runs perpendicular to the house. 599 00:21:07,132 --> 00:21:09,768 It has a slight pitch on it, and it's tongue-and-groove board 600 00:21:09,835 --> 00:21:11,603 so that when the rain gets in there, 601 00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:13,472 it runs down and drips away. 602 00:21:13,538 --> 00:21:15,107 Today everybody builds them level 603 00:21:15,173 --> 00:21:16,475 and they run the decking this way, 604 00:21:16,541 --> 00:21:17,709 and that's not right. 605 00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:18,844 Zack: Yeah, it's true. It seemed to work. 606 00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:20,846 It lasted a long time. Tom: Absolutely. 607 00:21:20,912 --> 00:21:22,881 Look at these front columns right here. 608 00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:25,217 This wall is leaning out a little bit this way. 609 00:21:25,283 --> 00:21:27,552 And the posts are basically going with it. 610 00:21:27,619 --> 00:21:29,488 So I don't think that's right. Zack: Yeah. 611 00:21:29,554 --> 00:21:31,089 We have a historic photo of this house, 612 00:21:31,156 --> 00:21:32,891 and it had a column that ran top to bottom. 613 00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:34,259 And I think by building this wall 614 00:21:34,326 --> 00:21:35,927 and putting this column here, 615 00:21:35,994 --> 00:21:39,297 this is just acting like a hinge and it just wants to fall out. 616 00:21:39,364 --> 00:21:40,932 Tom: Yeah, weak link right there. 617 00:21:40,999 --> 00:21:42,768 That straight column will make a big difference. 618 00:21:42,834 --> 00:21:44,336 Zack: Exactly. Let me show you over here. 619 00:21:44,403 --> 00:21:45,704 Tom: Yeah, I was up here earlier, 620 00:21:45,771 --> 00:21:47,205 and as I walked on this porch, 621 00:21:47,272 --> 00:21:49,708 I can actually start to feel some bounce in this right here. 622 00:21:49,775 --> 00:21:51,276 So something's definitely wrong here. 623 00:21:51,343 --> 00:21:53,845 This corner just rolls right down in the corner. 624 00:21:53,912 --> 00:21:55,681 So it's all rotted in there, that's for sure. 625 00:21:55,747 --> 00:21:58,083 Zack: And it's gonna be easier for us to air-seal the house 626 00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:00,252 and just get this, um, better built 627 00:22:00,318 --> 00:22:02,020 if we just remove it in its entirety. 628 00:22:02,087 --> 00:22:04,456 Tom: Get it out of the way. You can stage it and be safer. 629 00:22:04,523 --> 00:22:07,592 Kevin: Can you guys already imagine your new front porch 630 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:08,660 when it's all cleaned up? 631 00:22:08,727 --> 00:22:10,128 Sunita: Oh, I can't wait. 632 00:22:10,195 --> 00:22:11,863 Kevin: Like that smile. Like seeing that. 633 00:22:11,930 --> 00:22:13,231 Hey, all right. 634 00:22:13,298 --> 00:22:15,300 You guys got a handle on this whole thing? 635 00:22:15,367 --> 00:22:17,035 Zack: I think we do. I'm excited to get started. 636 00:22:17,102 --> 00:22:18,270 Kevin: Yeah, well, let's do it. 637 00:22:18,336 --> 00:22:19,838 What have we got coming up next time? 638 00:22:19,905 --> 00:22:21,106 Zack: Next time we're gonna start removing 639 00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:22,240 this asbestos siding 640 00:22:22,307 --> 00:22:24,109 and start the interior demolition. 641 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:25,477 Kevin: Good. Progress. 642 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:27,479 All right, well, we are underway here in new Jersey. 643 00:22:27,546 --> 00:22:29,514 So until next time, I'm Kevin O'Connor. 644 00:22:29,581 --> 00:22:30,716 Tom: I'm Tom Silva. 645 00:22:30,782 --> 00:22:31,783 Zack: And I'm Zack Dettmore. 646 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:33,218 Kevin: For "This Old House." 647 00:22:33,285 --> 00:22:35,420 All right, here we go, guys. Buckle up. 648 00:22:35,487 --> 00:22:37,522 Shankar: Thanks a lot. Tom: I'm excited. 649 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,929 Kevin: Next time on "This Old House"... 650 00:22:43,995 --> 00:22:45,330 Tom: We're gonna take this chimney down 651 00:22:45,397 --> 00:22:48,800 the opposite way it went up -- one brick at a time. 652 00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:50,602 Kevin: And we'll hear the plan to restore 653 00:22:50,669 --> 00:22:53,238 the original Victorian character to our home. 654 00:22:53,305 --> 00:22:55,540 I mean, it's nice that when this gets bumped out, 655 00:22:55,607 --> 00:22:57,642 it lines up with the edge of the house. 656 00:22:57,709 --> 00:23:00,212 And over here, when this gets extended, 657 00:23:00,278 --> 00:23:01,880 it ends up at the edge of the house, as well. 658 00:23:01,947 --> 00:23:03,648 Man: We line up the windows, as well. 659 00:23:03,715 --> 00:23:05,283 Richard: And we'll learn how and why 660 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:07,819 these historic gas lanterns are still in use 661 00:23:07,886 --> 00:23:09,020 here in Glen Ridge. 662 00:23:09,087 --> 00:23:10,522 Kevin: That's next time.