1 00:00:09,776 --> 00:00:11,678 >> Daniel: Mind if I join you? >> Phyllis: Oh, hey. 2 00:00:11,745 --> 00:00:13,880 Well, do you want to tell me what a miserable person I am, 3 00:00:13,947 --> 00:00:18,451 or listen to some of the ideas that I have, you know, 4 00:00:18,518 --> 00:00:24,858 or tell me I'm crazy? If I even have a job. 5 00:00:24,924 --> 00:00:26,626 >> Daniel: I didn't fire you, Mom. 6 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:28,328 >> Phyllis: Right, well, that's what it felt like. 7 00:00:28,395 --> 00:00:30,897 I mean, honestly, who talks to their mother like that? 8 00:00:30,964 --> 00:00:32,832 >> Daniel: [ Sighs ] I was trying to offer 9 00:00:32,899 --> 00:00:36,669 very good advice. You need to let go of this 10 00:00:36,736 --> 00:00:38,838 unhealthy obsession with Diane. I mean, it's keeping you 11 00:00:38,905 --> 00:00:41,941 from focusing on this project, which I-I really, 12 00:00:42,008 --> 00:00:46,846 really want you to be a part of. >> Phyllis: Okay, well, it 13 00:00:46,913 --> 00:00:49,449 didn't sound like that was your point. 14 00:00:49,516 --> 00:00:54,421 >> Daniel: Well, I'm sorry. I am. 15 00:00:54,487 --> 00:00:58,124 I love the idea of the two of us working together. 16 00:00:58,191 --> 00:01:00,493 I just need to know that you can let go of this vendetta. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,228 That's it. So, I mean, 18 00:01:02,295 --> 00:01:06,699 your future with Omega Sphere is in your hands. 19 00:01:09,869 --> 00:01:11,938 >> Abby: Hi. I just wanted to drop off 20 00:01:12,005 --> 00:01:14,407 Dominic's vitamins. >> Devon: Oh. 21 00:01:14,474 --> 00:01:15,975 He's not gonna like that you remembered. 22 00:01:16,042 --> 00:01:17,777 He hates these things. >> Abby: Oh, that's only 23 00:01:17,844 --> 00:01:20,547 because you don't sing him the special vitamin song. 24 00:01:20,613 --> 00:01:25,718 Yeah. Which I will teach you after you 25 00:01:25,785 --> 00:01:29,088 tell me what's on your mind. What's up? 26 00:01:29,155 --> 00:01:31,324 >> Devon: Oh, it's nothing, really. 27 00:01:31,391 --> 00:01:37,564 It's Chancellor-Winters stuff. Nothing you need to worry about. 28 00:01:37,630 --> 00:01:39,766 >> Abby: Didn't I just tell you that you were -- 29 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:42,702 you weren't going to have to go through any of this alone? 30 00:01:42,769 --> 00:01:46,406 Come on. What's up? Talk to me. 31 00:01:49,008 --> 00:01:52,278 >> Devon: What's the last thing I told you? 32 00:01:52,345 --> 00:01:55,281 >> Abby: That you were trying to decide if you were going to 33 00:01:55,348 --> 00:01:59,486 stick with Lily and Jill taking Chancellor-Winters public. 34 00:01:59,552 --> 00:02:01,921 >> Devon: Right. >> Abby: And did you make a 35 00:02:01,988 --> 00:02:05,592 decision? >> Devon: I did, yeah. 36 00:02:05,658 --> 00:02:08,127 Lily's on her way over right now. 37 00:02:14,367 --> 00:02:24,177 ♪♪ 38 00:02:24,244 --> 00:02:34,087 ♪♪ 39 00:02:34,153 --> 00:02:43,897 ♪♪ 40 00:03:16,062 --> 00:03:17,964 [ Cellphone pings ] 41 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:24,170 >> "Can you come over? I've got an idea." 42 00:03:39,819 --> 00:03:44,090 >> Tucker: That was fire. That's what I remember and 43 00:03:44,157 --> 00:03:50,296 missed so much. Don't tell me you don't. 44 00:03:50,363 --> 00:03:52,365 >> Ashley: That would be showing my hand. 45 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:53,833 >> Tucker: Ah, I think you already did. 46 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:59,672 >> Ashley: Mm, don't be so sure. >> Tucker: You see it, though, 47 00:03:59,739 --> 00:04:03,109 right? That together we're stronger 48 00:04:03,176 --> 00:04:05,545 than whatever kept us apart. 49 00:04:08,615 --> 00:04:10,750 >> Tucker: I'm sorry you had to hear that. 50 00:04:10,817 --> 00:04:13,753 You have to know that what he was accusing me of is just not 51 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:15,121 true. >> Ashley: Yeah, well, you know, 52 00:04:15,188 --> 00:04:17,490 I never trusted you anyway, so you couldn't really sink any 53 00:04:17,557 --> 00:04:19,993 lower in my book. >> Tucker: What are you talking 54 00:04:20,059 --> 00:04:21,227 about? >> Ashley: Oh, well, all this -- 55 00:04:21,294 --> 00:04:24,864 you know, all of this was just, um... 56 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:28,067 You know, it was just an act so that I could get to the truth, 57 00:04:28,134 --> 00:04:29,669 you know? And because I was lucky enough 58 00:04:29,736 --> 00:04:31,604 to be in the right place at the right time... 59 00:04:31,671 --> 00:04:33,339 >> Tucker: Okay -- >> Ashley: ...mission 60 00:04:33,406 --> 00:04:36,476 accomplished, you know? So... 61 00:04:36,542 --> 00:04:38,077 >> Tucker: Hold on. >> Ashley: Bye, Tucker. 62 00:04:38,144 --> 00:04:40,747 >> Tucker: Wait a minute, Ashley. 63 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:45,752 [ Door slams ] 64 00:05:19,585 --> 00:05:20,720 >> Tucker: You know, it's a 65 00:05:20,787 --> 00:05:24,357 beautiful day, is it not? >> Victoria: Yes, as a matter of 66 00:05:24,424 --> 00:05:28,561 fact, it is. You know, I think that it's 67 00:05:28,628 --> 00:05:32,065 dinnertime in Paris right now. It must be gorgeous, 68 00:05:32,131 --> 00:05:36,903 with the lights twinkling on the Seine, lovers walking arm 69 00:05:36,969 --> 00:05:38,871 in arm down the Champs-élysées. And I'm sure 70 00:05:38,938 --> 00:05:41,708 that Ashley is glancing out at the Eiffel Tower, 71 00:05:41,774 --> 00:05:45,044 basking in the fact that she escaped you. 72 00:05:45,111 --> 00:05:51,084 You must be so crushed that your plan to win Ashley back failed. 73 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:52,752 >> Tucker: Well, I must say, I'm very flattered you've been 74 00:05:52,819 --> 00:05:55,054 thinking of me so much. >> Victoria: I do. 75 00:05:55,121 --> 00:05:58,858 I do think of you, Tucker, as much as anyone thinks 76 00:05:58,925 --> 00:06:02,462 of an invasive species. Very difficult to eradicate, 77 00:06:02,528 --> 00:06:04,964 but once they're gone, everybody's so blissfully 78 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:07,266 satisfied. >> Tucker: Are you trying to 79 00:06:07,333 --> 00:06:11,237 tell me you think I should leave town? 80 00:06:11,304 --> 00:06:13,673 >> Victoria: Ashley's out of your reach. 81 00:06:13,740 --> 00:06:16,809 You're out of reasons to stay. >> Tucker: Well, why should I 82 00:06:16,876 --> 00:06:20,079 run away and deprive myself the pleasure of one-upping my 83 00:06:20,146 --> 00:06:21,981 enemies? >> Victoria: I don't think 84 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:24,984 you've one-upped anyone this go-round. 85 00:06:25,051 --> 00:06:25,985 >> Tucker: Give it time. 86 00:06:27,687 --> 00:06:28,521 >> Daniel: Thank you. 87 00:06:28,588 --> 00:06:31,357 Mom, look, no one works harder than you, 88 00:06:31,424 --> 00:06:34,260 and no one is more creative. Hands down. 89 00:06:34,327 --> 00:06:36,429 I just need to know that you are fully focused on this job, 90 00:06:36,496 --> 00:06:39,065 and it's not just an afterthought, or you're 91 00:06:39,132 --> 00:06:42,034 coming up with new ways to go after Diane. 92 00:06:42,101 --> 00:06:44,604 >> Phyllis: You will get 97% of me. 93 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:49,175 >> Daniel: No. No 97%, Mom. It needs to be all or nothing. 94 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:50,843 Look, I want to work with you not just because 95 00:06:50,910 --> 00:06:54,347 of your insane gaming skills, but because of the way 96 00:06:54,413 --> 00:06:56,315 that they make you feel, you know? 97 00:06:56,382 --> 00:06:59,185 You light up like a little kid. And that's the version of you 98 00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:03,322 that this platform needs. >> Phyllis: I get it. I get it. 99 00:07:03,389 --> 00:07:07,660 Okay? You got me. I mean, this is more than just 100 00:07:07,727 --> 00:07:10,496 a business to you. I understand. 101 00:07:10,563 --> 00:07:13,533 >> Daniel: Do you? >> Phyllis: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 102 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:16,602 >> Daniel: Do you remember when I asked you to be a part 103 00:07:16,669 --> 00:07:19,071 of this venture? I sat there with you and Dad. 104 00:07:19,138 --> 00:07:21,774 I told you how I felt everything in my life 105 00:07:21,841 --> 00:07:24,977 had just gone sideways. You know, how Heather and Lucy, 106 00:07:25,044 --> 00:07:27,213 they -- they were finally sick and tired of my self-serving, 107 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,750 toxic attitude? "Finding Princess Louisa" 108 00:07:30,817 --> 00:07:33,953 was born out of that chaos. And it's the centerpiece. 109 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:36,656 I mean, it is the jewel in the crown of the entire gaming 110 00:07:36,722 --> 00:07:39,892 platform. Finding your inner strength, 111 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:45,765 using it to turn bad into good, dark into light. 112 00:07:45,832 --> 00:07:48,901 Are you with me here? >> Phyllis: Yeah, I am. 113 00:07:48,968 --> 00:07:54,040 It means a lot to you. I get it. >> Daniel: This project is me 114 00:07:54,106 --> 00:07:58,177 taking control of my life. It's me taking what was left 115 00:07:58,244 --> 00:08:02,348 behind when my family left me and figuring out a way to move 116 00:08:02,415 --> 00:08:05,017 in a positive direction. And I want nothing more 117 00:08:05,084 --> 00:08:07,386 than for the two of us to go on this journey together. 118 00:08:07,453 --> 00:08:11,190 I'm -- I'm serious. But, you know, if -- if the wind 119 00:08:11,257 --> 00:08:13,025 doesn't start blowing in our direction, the ship 120 00:08:13,092 --> 00:08:16,295 might be dead in the water. >> Phyllis: Wait, wait, wait. 121 00:08:16,362 --> 00:08:19,632 What are you talking about? Is there a problem 122 00:08:19,699 --> 00:08:22,301 with Chancellor-Winters? Is everything okay there? 123 00:08:27,273 --> 00:08:28,341 >> Lily: Hey. >> Devon: Hi. 124 00:08:28,407 --> 00:08:29,942 >> Lily: I'm really glad that you called. 125 00:08:30,009 --> 00:08:32,411 I really think that we can figure out -- 126 00:08:32,478 --> 00:08:34,380 Abby. Hi. >> Abby: Hi. 127 00:08:34,447 --> 00:08:36,515 >> Lily: Sorry, I didn't know that you were going to be here. 128 00:08:36,582 --> 00:08:39,518 Should we reschedule? >> Devon: No, don't have to 129 00:08:39,585 --> 00:08:40,953 at all. She just stopped by. 130 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:43,656 >> Abby: I was just dropping off Dominic's vitamins. 131 00:08:43,723 --> 00:08:46,292 Um, I'll talk to you later? >> Devon: Yeah, for sure, 132 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:48,761 but you're more than welcome to stay, too, if you want. 133 00:08:48,828 --> 00:08:50,563 She knows everything that's been going on. 134 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:51,998 >> Abby: Well, I -- None of the details. 135 00:08:52,064 --> 00:08:55,134 You know, I just know that this has taken a toll on Devon. 136 00:08:55,201 --> 00:08:57,103 >> Lily: Yeah. Well, I'm glad he has 137 00:08:57,169 --> 00:08:59,038 someone to talk to about it, 'cause this has been 138 00:08:59,105 --> 00:09:02,441 really hard on all of us. But I really think 139 00:09:02,508 --> 00:09:06,512 that we can find a solution that we all can live with. 140 00:09:06,579 --> 00:09:10,283 >> Devon: Well, that's just it. I think that, uh, it needs 141 00:09:10,349 --> 00:09:13,986 to be more than just something we can live with. 142 00:09:14,053 --> 00:09:15,554 I think that the solution should be something 143 00:09:15,621 --> 00:09:19,091 that we all feel good about. And your and Jill's offer 144 00:09:19,158 --> 00:09:22,862 to buy me out doesn't really make me feel good. 145 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:24,597 >> Lily: Well, you haven't heard numbers or specifics -- 146 00:09:24,664 --> 00:09:26,365 >> Devon: I know, I haven't, and I don't really need to, 147 00:09:26,432 --> 00:09:29,969 'cause I've made up my mind. And my answer is no. 148 00:09:39,712 --> 00:09:41,914 >> Daniel: Look, you know how things go at newly merged 149 00:09:41,981 --> 00:09:44,450 companies. >> Phyllis: Yeah, everything's 150 00:09:44,517 --> 00:09:45,918 in flux. I get it. 151 00:09:45,985 --> 00:09:48,955 You didn't elaborate before, but you sort of insinuated 152 00:09:49,021 --> 00:09:51,590 that Omega Sphere could be in jeopardy 153 00:09:51,657 --> 00:09:53,259 at Chancellor-Winters. >> Daniel: Well, Lily told me 154 00:09:53,326 --> 00:09:54,827 she's still interested in launching the platform. 155 00:09:54,894 --> 00:09:56,062 >> Phyllis: But there's no guarantee. 156 00:09:56,128 --> 00:09:57,596 >> Daniel: I have a contract. >> Phyllis: Well, 157 00:09:57,663 --> 00:09:59,131 it doesn't matter. You don't have the commitment 158 00:09:59,198 --> 00:10:03,402 from the two CEOs. So the contract is 159 00:10:03,469 --> 00:10:06,072 not that important. Listen, we're talking 160 00:10:06,138 --> 00:10:08,507 about a game that's still in development, 161 00:10:08,574 --> 00:10:13,112 at a company that's unclear. I mean, there are 162 00:10:13,179 --> 00:10:16,182 no guarantees here. >> Daniel: Sometimes you just 163 00:10:16,248 --> 00:10:18,918 got to have faith. >> Phyllis: Yeah. 164 00:10:18,985 --> 00:10:21,320 You know what's better than faith? 165 00:10:21,387 --> 00:10:26,425 Cold, hard cash and job security. 166 00:10:26,492 --> 00:10:29,795 I mean, they could be thinking that this is too much of a risk. 167 00:10:32,498 --> 00:10:33,899 Hmm. I'm not going to let that 168 00:10:33,966 --> 00:10:37,870 happen to you. >> Daniel: Well, unfortunately, 169 00:10:37,937 --> 00:10:42,641 it's not in your hands. >> Phyllis: Hmm. Really? 170 00:10:42,708 --> 00:10:47,913 Did you really say that to me? You underestimate me, my son. 171 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:52,485 I fight for my children, and you know that. 172 00:10:52,551 --> 00:10:56,889 I also listen to them. I'm going to take what you said 173 00:10:56,956 --> 00:11:00,659 about Diane to heart. >> Daniel: Really? 174 00:11:00,726 --> 00:11:02,461 >> Phyllis: Mm-hmm. What, you don't believe me? 175 00:11:02,528 --> 00:11:04,730 What, I have to wait a lifetime to change my mind? 176 00:11:04,797 --> 00:11:07,233 I could just change my mind right now. 177 00:11:07,299 --> 00:11:09,769 I need to move on. I agree with you. 178 00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:12,471 I need to forget about the past and put my attention 179 00:11:12,538 --> 00:11:16,142 on Omega Sphere and everything that you want that to be, 180 00:11:16,208 --> 00:11:22,982 like -- like, um, Princess Louisa's garden. 181 00:11:23,049 --> 00:11:24,350 >> Daniel: I really hope you mean that. 182 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:28,854 >> Phyllis: I do mean that. I do. 183 00:11:28,921 --> 00:11:31,524 And I also want to help you out with this, 184 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:35,327 because I don't want this to just be in corporate limbo. 185 00:11:35,394 --> 00:11:38,230 Do you know what I mean? >> Daniel: No, what are you 186 00:11:38,297 --> 00:11:39,465 saying? >> Phyllis: Well, what I'm 187 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:42,201 saying is, if Chancellor-Winters 188 00:11:42,268 --> 00:11:45,738 doesn't get on it, we may have to get 189 00:11:45,805 --> 00:11:47,973 a backup plan. 190 00:11:51,277 --> 00:11:53,212 >> Victoria: I think that time is probably the last thing that 191 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:55,548 you need, given that you have other people doing your dirty 192 00:11:55,614 --> 00:11:58,818 work for you. >> Tucker: What does that mean? 193 00:11:58,884 --> 00:12:01,153 >> Victoria: I know about your connection with Audra Charles. 194 00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:03,522 She's working for you behind the scenes. 195 00:12:03,589 --> 00:12:05,291 Stilettos on the ground, worming her way into 196 00:12:05,357 --> 00:12:09,528 Chancellor-Winters, reporting back to you, 197 00:12:09,595 --> 00:12:13,032 sharing insider secrets. >> Tucker: I can't imagine where 198 00:12:13,099 --> 00:12:15,634 you would hear such a thing. >> Victoria: Well, you know, 199 00:12:15,701 --> 00:12:18,170 secrets have a way of not staying secret 200 00:12:18,237 --> 00:12:21,207 for very long. >> Tucker: Aha, I'm going to 201 00:12:21,273 --> 00:12:24,810 remember that one. 'Cause as an invasive species, 202 00:12:24,877 --> 00:12:28,247 I-I must learn to adapt. >> Victoria: Mm, but you won't. 203 00:12:28,314 --> 00:12:30,182 You will try to destroy everything in your path 204 00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:34,320 until you get what you want. Is Newman next? 205 00:12:34,386 --> 00:12:37,656 Do we need to prepare ourselves for another embarrassing attempt 206 00:12:37,723 --> 00:12:39,792 at a coup? >> Tucker: Oh, I'm just -- 207 00:12:39,859 --> 00:12:42,928 I'm just one man, one lowly species and -- 208 00:12:42,995 --> 00:12:45,831 >> Billy: Tucker, Tucker, what -- 209 00:12:45,898 --> 00:12:48,567 What are you doing now? >> Tucker: [ Chuckles ] 210 00:12:48,634 --> 00:12:51,837 See that, right on time, gallantly swooping in 211 00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:53,839 to protect the damsel? >> Billy: No, no. 212 00:12:53,906 --> 00:12:57,209 Victoria can handle herself. But you can go ahead 213 00:12:57,276 --> 00:13:00,579 and take this as a warning. Don't do anything else to mess 214 00:13:00,646 --> 00:13:04,350 with my family. >> Tucker: Noted. 215 00:13:04,416 --> 00:13:07,887 But for the record, I'm just here for the coffee. 216 00:13:07,953 --> 00:13:11,223 The ambiance. So... 217 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:14,193 Nice turtleneck. >> Billy: Not as nice as yours. 218 00:13:18,364 --> 00:13:21,167 Do I want to know what the hell that is all about? 219 00:13:21,233 --> 00:13:22,835 >> Victoria: It always pays to know what's going on 220 00:13:22,902 --> 00:13:26,338 with Tucker McCall, especially because right now, he 221 00:13:26,405 --> 00:13:29,008 is a man searching for a battle. 222 00:13:30,342 --> 00:13:31,277 >> Lily: Abby, would you mind 223 00:13:31,343 --> 00:13:32,778 giving us a minute alone? >> Abby: Of course. 224 00:13:32,845 --> 00:13:34,113 >> Lily: Thank you. >> Devon: She doesn't have to go 225 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:36,515 anywhere, Lily, 'cause there's nothing else for us to discuss, 226 00:13:36,582 --> 00:13:38,651 since you don't want to negotiate. 227 00:13:38,717 --> 00:13:40,252 And this is not a business decision, 228 00:13:40,319 --> 00:13:42,821 it's a personal decision. >> Lily: Jill and I came up 229 00:13:42,888 --> 00:13:45,424 with solutions that satisfy both the personal 230 00:13:45,491 --> 00:13:47,693 and business issues. >> Devon: Who does it satisfy, 231 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,995 aside from you and Jill? Like, what do I get out of it? 232 00:13:50,062 --> 00:13:51,497 >> Lily: What do you mean, what do you get out of it? 233 00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:53,899 You get the money and the name. >> Devon: I have money. 234 00:13:53,966 --> 00:13:55,768 You already know that. And I can come up 235 00:13:55,834 --> 00:13:58,003 with a new name. That's not what's important 236 00:13:58,070 --> 00:13:59,905 to me. What matters is what the name 237 00:13:59,972 --> 00:14:01,740 represents, and that's the actual company 238 00:14:01,807 --> 00:14:04,243 that Neil and I built. >> Lily: Devon, you can rebuild, 239 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:06,011 and you can make it something that comes from you. 240 00:14:06,078 --> 00:14:09,048 >> Devon: I have no interest in starting from scratch. 241 00:14:09,114 --> 00:14:12,284 I'm sorry. I want my company back in its 242 00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:15,521 entirety without any strings. It's as simple as that. 243 00:14:15,588 --> 00:14:17,323 >> Lily: [ Sighs ] I don't see 244 00:14:17,389 --> 00:14:19,525 how you think that -- >> Devon: That's the problem is 245 00:14:19,592 --> 00:14:24,363 that you don't see anything else except from your perspective. 246 00:14:24,430 --> 00:14:27,633 >> Lily: Wow. Hasn't this come full circle? 247 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,970 That's exactly what Nate said about you. 248 00:14:31,036 --> 00:14:34,306 >> Devon: Uh, okay. And you know what he tried to do 249 00:14:34,373 --> 00:14:36,342 originally? He left the company. 250 00:14:36,408 --> 00:14:39,011 Which is what I'm trying to do, but you won't let me. 251 00:14:39,078 --> 00:14:41,647 You will not let me leave and take my company that I 252 00:14:41,714 --> 00:14:44,383 poured my heart and soul into, that is already established 253 00:14:44,450 --> 00:14:47,419 and already has a foundation and respect from its competitors. 254 00:14:47,486 --> 00:14:50,322 You want me to walk away from all that and be fine with it? 255 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:52,491 That's kind of hurtful. >> Lily: Devon, I'm trying to be 256 00:14:52,558 --> 00:14:54,560 fair. >> Devon: I am trying to be 257 00:14:54,627 --> 00:14:58,697 fair, too. So let's come up with something. 258 00:14:58,764 --> 00:15:02,101 How about -- How about I pay you and Jill 259 00:15:02,167 --> 00:15:05,871 whatever you guys ask for, within reason, to make up for 260 00:15:05,938 --> 00:15:08,040 whatever you think you're gonna lose? 261 00:15:08,107 --> 00:15:11,410 'Cause that's about the only option that I'm going to go for. 262 00:15:11,477 --> 00:15:14,580 >> Lily: That's the nuclear option. 263 00:15:14,647 --> 00:15:15,914 >> Devon: If that's how you see it. 264 00:15:15,981 --> 00:15:18,917 >> Lily: Devon, Jill made it very clear that buying you out 265 00:15:18,984 --> 00:15:21,820 was the only option. She is not going to break up the 266 00:15:21,887 --> 00:15:23,889 companies before we go public. 267 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:29,328 >> Devon: Okay. Then we go to court. 268 00:15:41,573 --> 00:15:42,908 >> Lily: You really want to do that? 269 00:15:42,975 --> 00:15:44,476 You want to let lawyers sort this out? 270 00:15:44,543 --> 00:15:47,179 >> Devon: Absolutely not, Lily, but you and Jill are trying to 271 00:15:47,246 --> 00:15:49,581 force me into this IPO move, even though I've expressed 272 00:15:49,648 --> 00:15:51,250 to you how I feel about it. So, I mean, 273 00:15:51,317 --> 00:15:53,819 what am I supposed to do? >> Lily: Oh, I'm -- I'm sorry. 274 00:15:53,886 --> 00:15:55,554 We forced you? >> Devon: That's what 275 00:15:55,621 --> 00:15:57,856 you're doing. >> Lily: You signed a contract. 276 00:15:57,923 --> 00:16:00,926 You agreed to go public, and now you want to back out, 277 00:16:00,993 --> 00:16:03,128 because it's all about you. So I don't know 278 00:16:03,195 --> 00:16:04,463 where you learned that you don't have to keep 279 00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:08,467 your word, but it definitely was not from Dad. 280 00:16:08,534 --> 00:16:11,370 >> Devon: Okay, well, this has never been about me. 281 00:16:11,437 --> 00:16:14,873 It's always been about honoring Katherine and Neil's legacies. 282 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:16,575 >> Lily: Right, well, honoring their legacies 283 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:19,345 is keeping the companies strong. And by backing out, 284 00:16:19,411 --> 00:16:21,480 all you're doing is causing damage to both of them. 285 00:16:21,547 --> 00:16:23,382 >> Devon: I disagree with that. I think by backing out, 286 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:25,451 I'm keeping them out of the hands of people we don't know 287 00:16:25,517 --> 00:16:27,653 and we don't trust. And I don't know how many times 288 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,458 I have to explain that to you. >> Lily: [ Scoffs ] 289 00:16:32,524 --> 00:16:37,830 [ Sighs ] Okay. 290 00:16:37,896 --> 00:16:40,799 Nothing more to be said. So, I'm really sorry 291 00:16:40,866 --> 00:16:45,070 that it had to come to this. >> Devon: I'm really sorry, too. 292 00:16:45,137 --> 00:16:47,039 >> Lily: Yeah. 293 00:16:49,808 --> 00:16:52,711 Bye, Abby. >> Abby: Bye. 294 00:16:52,778 --> 00:16:56,749 [ Door opens ] [ Door shuts ] 295 00:17:00,652 --> 00:17:02,855 >> Victoria: I mean, what is he still doing in Genoa City? 296 00:17:02,921 --> 00:17:05,891 He struck out already, both personally and professionally. 297 00:17:05,958 --> 00:17:08,360 >> Billy: And I don't see him, Dom, and Devon spending much 298 00:17:08,427 --> 00:17:10,963 family time together, either. >> Victoria: Why doesn't he 299 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:12,231 just leave? >> Billy: [ Sighs ] 300 00:17:12,297 --> 00:17:15,067 Because guys like that, they just don't cut their losses 301 00:17:15,134 --> 00:17:17,903 and run, okay? But it's not going to kill us 302 00:17:17,970 --> 00:17:20,439 to hope. >> Victoria: He wants something. 303 00:17:20,506 --> 00:17:23,442 The question is what. I can't afford to let him 304 00:17:23,509 --> 00:17:26,879 fall off my radar. >> Billy: You feeling a little 305 00:17:26,945 --> 00:17:29,381 spread thin, having to spend so much energy 306 00:17:29,448 --> 00:17:32,484 on Johnny and Chelsea? >> Victoria: I don't know, 307 00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:36,021 maybe a little. >> Billy: Well, pizza night 308 00:17:36,088 --> 00:17:38,357 was a big hit. Hmm? 309 00:17:38,424 --> 00:17:40,826 And that wouldn't have happened without you. 310 00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:42,628 >> Victoria: Well, I'm glad everybody had such a great time. 311 00:17:42,694 --> 00:17:45,497 >> Billy: "Epic" was the word I heard most. 312 00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:48,534 And just to let you know, Johnny is planning something fun 313 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,636 for everybody to do together. >> Victoria: Together? 314 00:17:50,702 --> 00:17:53,305 Like as a "family"? >> Billy: Yeah, well -- 315 00:17:53,372 --> 00:17:56,708 >> Victoria: Billy, come on. I mean, it's a -- it's a lot. 316 00:17:56,775 --> 00:17:59,077 I mean, I'm just getting used to this new dynamic. 317 00:17:59,144 --> 00:18:01,747 I think you would afford me the same compassion and care 318 00:18:01,814 --> 00:18:06,385 that you have given to Chelsea. I mean, it's hard on me, too. 319 00:18:06,452 --> 00:18:11,457 >> Billy: I know that. I do. Look, you are his mother, okay? 320 00:18:11,523 --> 00:18:13,692 You have been there for everything, 321 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:18,630 every sneeze, cough, scraped knee, soccer game. 322 00:18:18,697 --> 00:18:21,467 And the fact that he is adjusting to this new landscape 323 00:18:21,533 --> 00:18:25,237 so well is a testament to you as a parent. 324 00:18:25,304 --> 00:18:27,139 >> Victoria: I didn't exactly do it alone. 325 00:18:27,206 --> 00:18:29,308 >> Billy: Well, no. I mean, I did my part. 326 00:18:29,374 --> 00:18:33,011 But you deserve most of the credit for raising a strong, 327 00:18:33,078 --> 00:18:36,448 compassionate boy. >> Victoria: This has been 328 00:18:36,515 --> 00:18:39,218 so difficult. >> Billy: You know, we, uh -- 329 00:18:39,284 --> 00:18:41,653 we try and tell kids it's important to share, 330 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,624 but it's not easy to do. And you're being asked to share 331 00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:49,394 a part of Johnny's heart with someone else. 332 00:18:49,461 --> 00:18:51,096 >> Victoria: It's really hard, Billy. 333 00:18:51,163 --> 00:18:53,832 And I'm trying. I really am. I'm trying, 334 00:18:53,899 --> 00:18:57,202 but it's -- It's hard. >> Billy: Well, I mean, 335 00:18:57,269 --> 00:19:00,539 you could look at it this way. You are giving a gift 336 00:19:00,606 --> 00:19:02,508 to Chelsea, Johnny, and Connor for that matter 337 00:19:02,574 --> 00:19:05,777 that is really incredible, one that they will not 338 00:19:05,844 --> 00:19:09,181 be able to repay. >> Victoria: Johnny hasn't been 339 00:19:09,248 --> 00:19:11,016 able to see how this is affecting me, has he? 340 00:19:11,083 --> 00:19:13,652 >> Billy: No, no, no. No, you've done an amazing job 341 00:19:13,719 --> 00:19:16,655 trying to keep it from him. And I know 342 00:19:16,722 --> 00:19:20,058 what this is costing you, okay? I get it. 343 00:19:20,125 --> 00:19:21,994 But just so you know, I will always be there with you 344 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:24,963 to do whatever we need to do for the kids. 345 00:19:25,030 --> 00:19:29,134 You're the boss, okay? Well, co-boss. 346 00:19:29,201 --> 00:19:30,836 >> Victoria: No, you were right the first time. 347 00:19:30,903 --> 00:19:35,574 >> Billy: Mm... >> Victoria: Thank you. 348 00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:38,844 >> Billy: Okay. I'll see you later. 349 00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:41,480 >> Victoria: Yeah. >> Billy: Be careful, okay? 350 00:19:46,685 --> 00:19:50,756 >> Tucker: Hey, Victoria. >> Victoria: You really are 351 00:19:50,822 --> 00:19:52,524 a glutton for punishment, aren't you? 352 00:19:52,591 --> 00:19:54,192 >> Tucker: I just wanted to give you an answer. 353 00:19:54,259 --> 00:19:57,396 Uh, I haven't decided who my next victim is going to be, 354 00:19:57,462 --> 00:20:01,733 but I just want to assure you that if it is Newman, 355 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,369 you'll be the last to know. What fun would it be 356 00:20:04,436 --> 00:20:06,338 if you saw it coming, right? 357 00:20:16,915 --> 00:20:18,684 >> "The Young and the Restless" will continue. 358 00:20:38,236 --> 00:20:39,304 >> Chelsea: Hey. >> Billy: Hi. 359 00:20:39,371 --> 00:20:41,139 >> Chelsea: Come on in. I'm so glad you could make it. 360 00:20:41,206 --> 00:20:43,375 >> Billy: Yeah, what's going on? You feeling good? 361 00:20:43,442 --> 00:20:46,211 >> Chelsea: I'm feeling inspired. 362 00:20:46,278 --> 00:20:47,713 >> Billy: Okay, well, that's a good thing. 363 00:20:47,779 --> 00:20:49,514 And what brought that on? >> Chelsea: So, I was just 364 00:20:49,581 --> 00:20:52,618 listening to this podcast of this person who has experience 365 00:20:52,684 --> 00:20:55,754 with depression and a suicide attempt. 366 00:20:55,821 --> 00:20:58,256 >> Billy: Okay. And how did that go for you? 367 00:20:58,323 --> 00:21:00,192 >> Chelsea: It got me thinking. You know, the two of us, 368 00:21:00,258 --> 00:21:02,694 we have a lot of experience, not just with podcasts, 369 00:21:02,761 --> 00:21:05,364 but with mental health crises and being a part of someone's 370 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:08,533 support system. What if we created 371 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,870 something like this? >> Billy: Another podcast? 372 00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:13,505 >> Chelsea: Well, I mean, we have such a great rapport. 373 00:21:13,572 --> 00:21:16,074 We know each other so well. We obviously bring out the best 374 00:21:16,141 --> 00:21:17,976 in each other, you know? I mean, what if we used 375 00:21:18,043 --> 00:21:22,881 our stories and our voices to help people feel less alone? 376 00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:26,485 >> Billy: Yeah, um... Honest opinion? 377 00:21:26,551 --> 00:21:28,787 >> Chelsea: Always. >> Billy: I get the impulse. 378 00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:31,356 I-I do. But are you sure you're ready 379 00:21:31,423 --> 00:21:34,326 to open yourself up that way? You know, it's only been 380 00:21:34,393 --> 00:21:36,895 a couple months since... >> Chelsea: Well, it's all 381 00:21:36,962 --> 00:21:39,398 a journey, right? I mean, I'd have to talk to my 382 00:21:39,464 --> 00:21:41,833 therapist, of course, and explain all this to her and 383 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:44,970 make sure she approves, but -- >> Billy: Yeah, you'd have to 384 00:21:45,037 --> 00:21:48,774 do that. >> Chelsea: The idea excites me. 385 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,643 And what's more important, what's more life-affirming 386 00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:53,845 than that? >> Billy: [ Sighs ] 387 00:21:53,912 --> 00:21:57,249 No, I agree. It would be. >> Chelsea: So? 388 00:21:57,315 --> 00:21:59,217 Does that mean you'll do it? 389 00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:04,122 >> Devon: Hey, I'm sorry that I put you 390 00:22:04,189 --> 00:22:06,558 in the middle of all that. It just felt like 391 00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:08,460 Lily was trying to tell me who I could have in my house, 392 00:22:08,527 --> 00:22:11,763 and I didn't like that. So I apologize 393 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:14,933 for doing that to you. >> Abby: Well, uh, family 394 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,538 dust-ups aren't easy to be a part of or to witness. 395 00:22:19,604 --> 00:22:23,075 >> Devon: Yeah. Do you think that I'm wrong 396 00:22:23,141 --> 00:22:26,778 in all this? >> Abby: Look, I understand 397 00:22:26,845 --> 00:22:31,717 why you're taking this stance. But are you really prepared 398 00:22:31,783 --> 00:22:36,855 to go into a legal battle with your sister and Jill? 399 00:22:36,922 --> 00:22:39,825 >> Devon: I mean, what else am I supposed to do? 400 00:22:39,891 --> 00:22:42,527 >> Abby: I remember you told me that you were worried that this 401 00:22:42,594 --> 00:22:44,963 was going to get ugly if you couldn't reach a compromise. 402 00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:47,165 >> Devon: I know, yeah, and I am still worried. 403 00:22:47,232 --> 00:22:48,834 That's the last thing that I want to happen, 404 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:50,502 but I feel like I don't have a choice. 405 00:22:50,569 --> 00:22:53,772 >> Abby: I just -- I can't help but see the similarities between 406 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:56,708 this and when you decided that you wanted to share 407 00:22:56,775 --> 00:23:01,813 custody of Dominic. Look, I do not regret 408 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,383 the outcome. I don't, but you were willing 409 00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:10,055 to take Chance and me to court so you could have equal access 410 00:23:10,122 --> 00:23:13,325 to Dominic. >> Devon: Right. 411 00:23:13,391 --> 00:23:15,894 But we got through all that, though. 412 00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:19,831 >> Abby: Yeah, we did. But it was because Chance and I, 413 00:23:19,898 --> 00:23:22,868 we decided that it was best for all of us to raise 414 00:23:22,934 --> 00:23:26,705 Dominic together. And I just -- I hope that you 415 00:23:26,772 --> 00:23:28,840 don't think that every disagreement is going to have 416 00:23:28,907 --> 00:23:31,576 the same outcome, that your opponent is just going 417 00:23:31,643 --> 00:23:33,678 to suddenly realize that you're right. 418 00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:35,614 >> Devon: No, I'm not. Of course I'm not 419 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,684 going to think that. But, Abby, 420 00:23:39,751 --> 00:23:43,188 one of the most valuable lessons I ever learned from Neil 421 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:45,390 was that when you find something that you believe in 422 00:23:45,457 --> 00:23:48,727 and it's important to you, you defend it, 423 00:23:48,794 --> 00:23:51,563 and you don't back down. And this is something that is 424 00:23:51,630 --> 00:23:53,832 very important to me. >> Abby: But there's a lot more 425 00:23:53,899 --> 00:23:58,103 at stake than just the company that you built with your dad. 426 00:23:58,170 --> 00:24:01,072 >> Devon: What are you saying? >> Abby: I'm asking you 427 00:24:01,139 --> 00:24:03,308 if you're prepared for what this will probably do 428 00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:05,677 to your relationship with Lily. 429 00:24:08,847 --> 00:24:11,616 >> Phyllis: Listen, Daniel, we need to seize the moment. 430 00:24:11,683 --> 00:24:16,388 That's what we need to do. I mean, we need a company 431 00:24:16,454 --> 00:24:19,758 that sees Omega Sphere for the moneymaking endeavor 432 00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:23,795 that it is. We need to let them 433 00:24:23,862 --> 00:24:27,165 make your vision a reality. You know what? 434 00:24:27,232 --> 00:24:29,601 Maybe we should take it to Newman Media. 435 00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:32,204 You know, Nate Hastings is there right now, 436 00:24:32,270 --> 00:24:35,273 and I've heard great things about him. 437 00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:37,576 Or forget it. Why are we thinking so small? 438 00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:41,613 Let's go international. Japan, Philippines, Korea. 439 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,949 Also, let's not forget about the gamers in New Zealand -- 440 00:24:44,015 --> 00:24:45,851 >> Daniel: Yeah, Mom, I love that you're so committed, 441 00:24:45,917 --> 00:24:48,486 but I think we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves. 442 00:24:48,553 --> 00:24:49,955 >> Phyllis: Well, I don't think so. 443 00:24:50,021 --> 00:24:52,190 This is something we need to do. >> Daniel: [ Sighs ] 444 00:24:52,257 --> 00:24:54,326 I think we need to do exactly what we've been doing. 445 00:24:54,392 --> 00:24:56,461 We move ahead under the assumption that we're going 446 00:24:56,528 --> 00:25:00,899 to be with Chancellor-Winters. >> Phyllis: Well, I mean, but 447 00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:03,168 you're the one who brought up that it's a dire situation. 448 00:25:03,235 --> 00:25:05,537 >> Daniel: I'm just talking worst-case scenarios. 449 00:25:05,604 --> 00:25:07,372 Look, I hope it doesn't come to the point where we've got to 450 00:25:07,439 --> 00:25:09,941 take the project someplace else. >> Phyllis: Right, plan for the 451 00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:13,879 best, prepare for the worst. I get it. I get it. 452 00:25:13,945 --> 00:25:17,482 Honestly, we have to. We have to think out of the box, 453 00:25:17,549 --> 00:25:19,718 all right? It's just common sense. 454 00:25:19,784 --> 00:25:22,687 We have to look into other companies. 455 00:25:22,754 --> 00:25:24,489 >> Daniel: I have a contract with Chancellor-Winters, 456 00:25:24,556 --> 00:25:26,458 and I have faith that Lily's going to do everything she can 457 00:25:26,524 --> 00:25:32,764 to keep this project on track. Lily. Hey. You want to join us? 458 00:25:32,831 --> 00:25:36,601 >> Lily: Um -- Hi. Uh... >> Daniel: What's wrong? 459 00:25:36,668 --> 00:25:38,236 >> Lily: No, I just -- I-I had a meeting 460 00:25:38,303 --> 00:25:43,942 that didn't go well, so... >> Daniel: With Devon? 461 00:25:44,009 --> 00:25:46,544 I'm sorry. I know it's got to be stressful, 462 00:25:46,611 --> 00:25:50,982 and I really wish you weren't dealing with all that. 463 00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:54,085 >> Lily: Thanks. >> Phyllis: Yeah, 464 00:25:54,152 --> 00:25:57,122 I'm sorry, too. Um, but all the issues that 465 00:25:57,188 --> 00:25:59,758 you're having with your brother, does this have to do with 466 00:25:59,824 --> 00:26:04,262 the company? Um, because my son's been 467 00:26:04,329 --> 00:26:08,133 working very, very hard at Omega Sphere and making it 468 00:26:08,199 --> 00:26:13,772 just amazing. I'd hate to think. 469 00:26:13,838 --> 00:26:15,974 Is it dead in the water at Chancellor-Winters? 470 00:26:26,818 --> 00:26:29,387 >> Daniel: My mother's candor is an expression 471 00:26:29,454 --> 00:26:31,089 of her passion for the project. >> Phyllis: You don't have 472 00:26:31,156 --> 00:26:34,659 to explain me to Lily. She knows about my passion. 473 00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:36,561 I mean, she bought The Grand Phoenix from me. 474 00:26:36,628 --> 00:26:38,997 She understands. I mean, when I set my sights 475 00:26:39,064 --> 00:26:41,466 on a task, I really go for it. >> Lily: Yeah, absolutely. 476 00:26:41,533 --> 00:26:43,268 I know that. >> Phyllis: And I know 477 00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:45,770 you have to make tough calls. I understand that. 478 00:26:45,837 --> 00:26:48,373 >> Daniel: I think that -- I think that we should give 479 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,443 Lily a chance to explain. Please. 480 00:26:51,509 --> 00:26:53,878 >> Lily: Yeah. No. Listen, the truth is, I mean, 481 00:26:53,945 --> 00:26:56,748 everything is still kind of up in the air right now. 482 00:26:56,815 --> 00:26:58,683 >> Phyllis: Oh, okay. Well, I hope it's 483 00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:00,719 nothing serious. >> Lily: No, no, no. No, no. 484 00:27:00,785 --> 00:27:03,355 Just -- It's growing pains. >> Phyllis: Right. 485 00:27:03,421 --> 00:27:05,623 >> Lily: So, you know, I really hope that I can rely on 486 00:27:05,690 --> 00:27:09,627 your patience and understanding as we work everything out. 487 00:27:09,694 --> 00:27:13,999 >> Phyllis: Oh. Well, sure. I mean, but you just want Daniel 488 00:27:14,065 --> 00:27:18,470 to sort of wait and wonder? >> Lily: Well, we signed 489 00:27:18,536 --> 00:27:21,039 a contract, so I'm not really sure what you're expecting. 490 00:27:21,106 --> 00:27:22,907 >> Daniel: Look, I'm -- I'm cool with it. 491 00:27:22,974 --> 00:27:25,276 I can use the extra time to refine my designs. 492 00:27:25,343 --> 00:27:27,579 >> Lily: Yeah, no, good, good, 'cause I really want to see 493 00:27:27,645 --> 00:27:29,581 this project come to fruition, if I can. 494 00:27:29,647 --> 00:27:32,517 >> Phyllis: Oh, if you can. Okay. That's a big if. 495 00:27:32,584 --> 00:27:34,919 I mean, he's worked very hard on this project. 496 00:27:34,986 --> 00:27:38,123 >> Daniel: Mm, yeah, I don't think that's the kind of help 497 00:27:38,189 --> 00:27:40,725 I need right now. >> Phyllis: Well, I-I think Lily 498 00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:44,429 needs to understand what goes into exactly 499 00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:46,998 what you do and the whole world that you've built. 500 00:27:47,065 --> 00:27:49,467 Maybe she doesn't completely get it, you know? 501 00:27:49,534 --> 00:27:51,536 >> Lily: No, look, I get it. I get it. 502 00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:54,739 You know, I really wish I could tell you more, though. 503 00:27:54,806 --> 00:27:56,641 >> Phyllis: Oh, okay, I understand. 504 00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:59,344 You know, corporate secrets and all, right? 505 00:27:59,411 --> 00:28:02,313 I'm just advocating for my son. >> Lily: I know. I know. 506 00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:06,684 >> Phyllis: Yeah. Well, great. I have to go. 507 00:28:06,751 --> 00:28:08,319 Talk to you later. >> Lily: All right. Bye. See ya. 508 00:28:08,386 --> 00:28:10,288 >> Daniel: Bye, Mom. 509 00:28:11,689 --> 00:28:14,025 >> Lily: [ Sighs ] >> Daniel: [ Sighs ] 510 00:28:14,092 --> 00:28:17,829 Well, I, um -- I think you know what I'm about to say. 511 00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:21,032 >> Lily: No, it's fine. You don't have to apologize. 512 00:28:21,099 --> 00:28:22,934 She's your mom, you know? Of course she's going 513 00:28:23,001 --> 00:28:25,837 to worry about you. Makes me miss my own parents. 514 00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:27,806 They were always in my corner. 515 00:28:30,408 --> 00:28:31,743 >> Daniel: You want something to drink? 516 00:28:31,810 --> 00:28:33,578 I know I could use one, definitely something stronger 517 00:28:33,645 --> 00:28:35,380 than this coffee. >> Lily: [ Chuckles ] 518 00:28:35,447 --> 00:28:37,615 Yeah, I could definitely probably use some bourbon right 519 00:28:37,682 --> 00:28:41,186 now after my meeting with Devon. >> Daniel: Negotiations 520 00:28:41,252 --> 00:28:43,521 go south? >> Lily: There were no 521 00:28:43,588 --> 00:28:46,424 negotiations. He wants what he wants, 522 00:28:46,491 --> 00:28:49,861 easy as that. He absolutely rejected our offer 523 00:28:49,928 --> 00:28:52,397 to buy him out, and Jill is not going to let 524 00:28:52,464 --> 00:28:54,899 them take back Hamilton-Winters without a fight. 525 00:28:54,966 --> 00:28:58,837 So things are about to get nasty. 526 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,407 >> Billy: Look, if your therapist thinks it's 527 00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:04,542 a good idea, then -- then I'm going to support you. 528 00:29:04,609 --> 00:29:07,112 >> Chelsea: Really? >> Billy: Yeah, of course. 529 00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:09,647 But, uh, you know, there's -- There's a few things 530 00:29:09,714 --> 00:29:11,082 to consider. >> Chelsea: Of course. 531 00:29:11,149 --> 00:29:12,517 Of course. I mean, we'd have to hire 532 00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:14,686 a mental health professional to consult with and make sure 533 00:29:14,752 --> 00:29:16,588 we, you know, shape the language in the right way. 534 00:29:16,654 --> 00:29:18,423 >> Billy: Yes, that would be a must. 535 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:21,426 >> Chelsea: Do you think we would need to use pseudonyms? 536 00:29:21,493 --> 00:29:22,927 >> Billy: I don't know, but that's one of the things 537 00:29:22,994 --> 00:29:25,530 to consider, right? I mean, off the top of my head, 538 00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:27,799 I think being anonymous would be the right call. 539 00:29:27,866 --> 00:29:30,001 If not, we're going to have to answer a lot of questions from 540 00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:32,137 all the parents at Walnut Grove. And we got to think 541 00:29:32,203 --> 00:29:34,139 about the boys. >> Chelsea: Of course. 542 00:29:34,205 --> 00:29:35,874 Of course. The last thing I want is for 543 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:38,676 Johnny and Connor to suffer any kind of bullying or unwanted 544 00:29:38,743 --> 00:29:40,612 attention. >> Billy: Yeah, their safety 545 00:29:40,678 --> 00:29:43,281 is my top priority. >> Chelsea: The thing is, 546 00:29:43,348 --> 00:29:45,316 if we use an alias, it's like we're reinforcing the 547 00:29:45,383 --> 00:29:51,356 stigma around mental illness. I want to teach the boys 548 00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:53,424 that shame shouldn't be a part of this equation, 549 00:29:53,491 --> 00:29:55,226 certainly not when someone's in trouble. 550 00:29:55,293 --> 00:29:58,496 Stigma is what stops people from getting help. 551 00:29:58,563 --> 00:29:59,931 Makes them feel they need to hide things. 552 00:29:59,998 --> 00:30:04,135 I mean, at least that's how I felt. 553 00:30:04,202 --> 00:30:06,671 >> Billy: That's a good point, valid point. 554 00:30:06,738 --> 00:30:11,109 In fact, we should probably talk to Dr. Malone about that. 555 00:30:11,176 --> 00:30:12,510 What? What are you looking at me 556 00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:14,078 like that for? >> Chelsea: Be honest. 557 00:30:14,145 --> 00:30:17,382 Don't just say what you think I want you to say. 558 00:30:17,448 --> 00:30:20,785 Tell me the truth. Do you really think it's okay 559 00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:22,053 if we do this? 560 00:30:24,522 --> 00:30:27,892 >> Phyllis: Hey, Nate. Hi. This is Phyllis Summers. 561 00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:30,361 Um, you know, listen, I'm not going to ask how you are. 562 00:30:30,428 --> 00:30:33,231 I've heard glowing things about everything that's going on 563 00:30:33,298 --> 00:30:35,900 with you since you took over at Newman Media. 564 00:30:35,967 --> 00:30:38,703 So, um, congratulations. Anyway, the reason that I'm 565 00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:42,607 calling is I have an idea. Actually, it's my son's idea. 566 00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:45,009 Um, I think you'll find it fascinating. 567 00:30:45,076 --> 00:30:49,147 I'd like to come pitch to you, if, uh, that's possible. 568 00:30:49,214 --> 00:30:51,216 Anyway... You don't want to miss out 569 00:30:51,282 --> 00:30:53,952 on a chance of a lifetime, so give me a call back 570 00:30:54,018 --> 00:30:56,120 when you get this. Phyllis Summers. 571 00:30:56,187 --> 00:30:58,089 All right. 572 00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:09,867 Don't sneak up on people like that. 573 00:31:09,934 --> 00:31:12,971 >> Tucker: So, it sounds like your son's venture isn't going 574 00:31:13,037 --> 00:31:15,540 so well at Chancellor-Winters. >> Phyllis: That's none 575 00:31:15,607 --> 00:31:18,643 of your business. >> Tucker: Mm, that is true. 576 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:22,013 But it could be. And it definitely should be. 577 00:31:29,854 --> 00:31:33,625 >> Billy: Look, I understand wanting to make lemonade 578 00:31:33,691 --> 00:31:34,892 out of the lemons you got, right? 579 00:31:34,959 --> 00:31:37,829 I mean, you've been through a pretty serious thing, 580 00:31:37,895 --> 00:31:41,266 and you want to try and help people that have gone 581 00:31:41,332 --> 00:31:43,334 through something similar. >> Chelsea: Yeah, and I want to 582 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:44,836 help their friends, their families. 583 00:31:44,902 --> 00:31:48,206 >> Billy: And that need to help, it's a good one. 584 00:31:48,273 --> 00:31:50,308 >> Chelsea: I just feel like suicide and depression 585 00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:53,611 are so cloaked in shame, nobody wants to talk about it, 586 00:31:53,678 --> 00:31:57,348 so you're just left in this lonely, desolate place. 587 00:31:57,415 --> 00:31:59,584 But if we share our stories and our voices and our hearts, 588 00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:01,486 especially coming from people who've been there... 589 00:32:01,552 --> 00:32:03,154 >> Billy: Yeah, no, it's a possibility. 590 00:32:03,221 --> 00:32:05,456 It deserves more exploration. >> Chelsea: Yeah, and we'd 591 00:32:05,523 --> 00:32:07,492 have to be very careful with what we say. 592 00:32:07,558 --> 00:32:08,826 You know, if we're going to do this, I want to 593 00:32:08,893 --> 00:32:11,696 make sure we do it right. >> Billy: [ Sighs ] 594 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:14,432 Look, I trust you, and you're going to figure out 595 00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:18,569 what this entails and how you feel best about giving back. 596 00:32:18,636 --> 00:32:23,107 You'll decide what's right. But I will say, coming from me, 597 00:32:23,174 --> 00:32:26,544 it'd be fun to work on something together again. 598 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:28,046 >> Chelsea: I think it would, too. 599 00:32:28,112 --> 00:32:28,680 Very much. 600 00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:32,550 >> Devon: I would like to think 601 00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:34,652 that one day, Lily's going to realize that this isn't about 602 00:32:34,719 --> 00:32:40,224 her at all. It's about honoring our father 603 00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:43,194 and preserving the work that we put into the company. 604 00:32:43,261 --> 00:32:46,364 That's it. >> Abby: Right, but when 605 00:32:46,431 --> 00:32:48,366 that doesn't work out, you are more than welcome 606 00:32:48,433 --> 00:32:52,203 to spend any family holiday with me and Dominic. 607 00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:56,841 >> Devon: Do you really not think that Lily's 608 00:32:56,908 --> 00:33:00,511 going to get past this? >> Abby: I don't know. 609 00:33:00,578 --> 00:33:03,715 I mean, look at Adam. He can't get past any grievances 610 00:33:03,781 --> 00:33:05,950 that he has with his siblings. >> Devon: Yeah, but, I mean, 611 00:33:06,017 --> 00:33:08,252 that's -- that's Adam. Lily's not him. 612 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:12,090 She's a kind person, and she's reasonable. 613 00:33:12,156 --> 00:33:16,027 >> Abby: True. But what if she never forgives 614 00:33:16,094 --> 00:33:21,866 you for dismantling the merger? And what if you don't win? 615 00:33:21,933 --> 00:33:24,902 Are you prepared for that? >> Devon: How would I 616 00:33:24,969 --> 00:33:28,473 prepare for that? How do I prepare to lose 617 00:33:28,539 --> 00:33:32,110 everything that I've ever worked for in my life? 618 00:33:32,176 --> 00:33:33,077 I won't do that. 619 00:33:36,047 --> 00:33:37,181 >> Daniel: Look, I know that 620 00:33:37,248 --> 00:33:40,785 this can't be easy for you. You know, going to war with a 621 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:43,154 stranger is one thing, but when it's your own brother... 622 00:33:43,221 --> 00:33:44,856 >> Lily: Yeah, no, and he keeps talking about how he's 623 00:33:44,922 --> 00:33:47,925 preserving our father's legacy, when in reality, my dad would be 624 00:33:47,992 --> 00:33:52,063 horrified by this. >> Daniel: You got a lot riding 625 00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:54,665 on this IPO. You got a ton of people 626 00:33:54,732 --> 00:33:57,802 counting on you to make the right decision... 627 00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,771 I don't envy you one bit. 628 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,108 >> Lily: I'm really sorry that I have to keep you in limbo 629 00:34:04,175 --> 00:34:06,077 while we figure things out. 630 00:34:09,113 --> 00:34:11,582 >> Daniel: I understand. >> Lily: But thank you for being 631 00:34:11,649 --> 00:34:14,085 positive about all of this, 'cause I know 632 00:34:14,152 --> 00:34:17,855 you're disappointed. And you have every right to be. 633 00:34:17,922 --> 00:34:22,627 I know how much you have riding on this. 634 00:34:22,693 --> 00:34:24,395 >> Daniel: Well, we'll figure it out, right? 635 00:34:24,462 --> 00:34:29,867 >> Lily: We will. [ Cellphone ringing ] 636 00:34:29,934 --> 00:34:34,405 Oh, uh, it's Jill. Jill. Hi. 637 00:34:34,472 --> 00:34:38,976 Um, yeah, I have a minute. Sorry. 638 00:34:39,043 --> 00:34:41,712 Sorry, yeah, what were you saying? 639 00:34:49,654 --> 00:34:51,956 >> Tucker: So -- >> Phyllis: Okay, listen. 640 00:34:52,023 --> 00:34:55,092 Don't eavesdrop on people's conversations, please. 641 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:56,494 >> Tucker: What you were saying was so interesting. 642 00:34:56,561 --> 00:35:00,198 I couldn't help myself. Phyllis, you are 643 00:35:00,264 --> 00:35:04,902 an astute businesswoman. You built a marvelous hotel, 644 00:35:04,969 --> 00:35:08,072 in which I am a resident. >> Phyllis: Oh. 645 00:35:08,139 --> 00:35:10,608 Yeah. I sold it for a profit. >> Tucker: I know you did. 646 00:35:10,675 --> 00:35:12,910 And I know you originally partnered with Abby on it. 647 00:35:12,977 --> 00:35:15,947 And -- And you guys aren't exactly friends, 648 00:35:16,013 --> 00:35:18,416 so I know that you are able to separate your personal feelings 649 00:35:18,483 --> 00:35:20,084 from business matters when you want to. 650 00:35:20,151 --> 00:35:21,853 >> Phyllis: Okay, what are you getting at? 651 00:35:21,919 --> 00:35:25,490 >> Tucker: I want you to set aside your personal feelings 652 00:35:25,556 --> 00:35:28,226 for me and see the big picture here. 653 00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:30,294 >> Phyllis: Would you like to paint that picture for me? 654 00:35:30,361 --> 00:35:32,797 >> Tucker: If you want Daniel's project to come to fruition, 655 00:35:32,864 --> 00:35:34,999 don't shop around. You're right where 656 00:35:35,066 --> 00:35:36,567 you need to be. 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